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I hope these two team up again. Zimmer's score is the main driving force for some memorable scenes. Just a few<br>Batman Begins-The Training<br>TDK- Joker crash the party, Gordon's speech and ending<br>Inception - Time, Mr.Charles, <br>TKDR - the climb, imagine the fire and orphan<br>Interstellar-Stay, Docking, coward, mountain<br>Dunkirk - well the entire movieJustin Hurwitz I can see. I enjoyed La La Land and First Man. But Both Hurwitz and GŲransson are several notches above Lorne Balfe. <br><br>I think 80/100 directors would rather work with GŲransson than Balfe.I really believe that Nolan has made a mistake as a composer.I think Lorne Balfe, David Julyan or Justin Hurwitz would be much better options than Ludwig Goransson.Interesting news. <br><br>Geoff Zanelli is one of those composers who Iíve loved his additional music over his solo efforts, Pirates 5 excluded. I hope he gets a chance to write some great fantasy music for this, regardless if he reuses JNHís themes or not.I think I am the only one, who would be glad about David Julyan return.<br><br>I really like his music for early Nolan's films, especially Insomnia, and it's what i can call an "atmospheric experience".<br><br>Don't know how his music fits for espionage timetraveling movie, but, for me, i'st would be something interesting to hear.
@mpolonest123: those Pemberton scores are indeed pure gold, very cool on album but insanely good in the movie. My favorite is still his King Arthur, that was a beast of a score that stuck with the movie like glue and really enhanced Guy Ritchie's dark, twisted, trippy vision.*3 thingsSure, but there's two things to consider. <br>1). Pirates has such an iconic sound that it'd be really stupid for them to suddenly abandon it at #5. Especially when we hired the guy who has worked on the previous 4. 2). Maleficent, as successful as it was to warrant a sequel, isn't quite as well known in the score department, despite being well received by those who have heard it. 3). Because Zanelli worked on all Pirates, he had enough familiarity with the sounds and motifs that he knew where to go once he led the ship. In Maleficent's case, he's taking over from a previous composer, and is working with a director who likely only knows his work on POTC5. As such, there's no knowing yet if he might be compelled to continue on from JNH, or if it's decided he just does his own thing.<br><br>I'm happy that Geoff at the very least has a safe career at Disney, considering two of their recent live action successes has had him involved. However, considering I hear his recently work hasn't been his best, JNH likely would've benefited from returning to a world that had some of his best material after he wasn't given the opportunity to do so with Glass. As such, it really is a severely missed opportunity, even if newer blood is getting more opportunities.Just listening to this again. It really is a best of both score. What I think is so great, is that you can hear both of the brothers' own voice but they blend so well together!! Really really great score!<br><br>It's a really remarkable score, the swifts in tone between dramatic and jazz is top-notch. It's higher on favorite list from 2019 already, than I thought it would ever be.<br><br>Give me more Gregson-Williams brothers scores!!!!!!I was hoping for JNH, but we'll see what he does. JNH's themes were amazing zo it would be stupod not to use them. But he used the Pirates themes, so I'm feeling actually quite ok about it
True, but he didnít really get credit for The Lone Ranger or any of the Pirates films other than #5... those are billed strictly as HZ scores. I would say Christopher Robin likely was a result of the success of his Pirates score, and Timothy Green wasnít really a Disney tentpole release. Maleficent isnít a Marvel or Star Wars level tentpole, but it is still a blockbuster film that I think heíll do an awesome job with.@Mephariel - youíre right. However Interstellar and Inception, musically speaking, are simple scores. They are moving, beautiful, and masterpieces, but still simple. Which is great! <br><br>But if we are wanting Zimmer to return to a type of music, Iíd much rather prefer something along the lines of Pirates, The Rock, The Last Samurai, Crimson Tide, etc. Tonally, of course it would be more modern and new, but melodically a return to those forms would be a dream come true.Geoff has done several other Disney projects besides Pirates 5.  (All Pirates movies since the first, Lone Ranger, Christopher Robin, Odd Life of Timothy Green). And I have to say that I would rather JNH return for the sequel, as that would allow him to expand on his fantastic score for the first film.@George<br><br>To be fair, Interstellar is a genuine masterpiece score and maybe one my favorite score of all time, but I am not sure when Nolan will allow Zimmer to return to that type of scoring. <br><br>Hell, Time is my favorite cue ever, but again, I am not sure if Nolan is interested in that kind of music anymore.  <br><br>I guess we will see with Tenet. And yes, I absolutely think GŲransson can be a future star in the making and if anyone is allow write his or her own "Time" cultural moment, it may as well be him.@mephariel @mpolonest123 - glad Iím not the only one whoís more excited for those compared to cold and dark Nolan/Zimmer scores. Iím kinda over those to be honest.
And if Iím completely honest, Iím more excited by WW84, Spongebob, Top Gun, and Dark Phoenix than another potential Nolan collab.@mephariel <br>I can definitely see that, especially with King Arthur and Spiderverse. I do think his music adds a lot to the films he scores (Steve Jobs and Man From Uncle being two great examples) where he consistently switches up styles and tones to keep things fresh. Maybe not the strongest theme writer but I do love his approaches.Geoff is doing Maleficent: Mistress of Evil! Happy for him... glad the Pirates 5 gig opened up the Disney door for him, he deserves it :)This is actually pretty shocking and completely unexpected. Even if he wasnít gonna score it, I was a 100% sure it was gonna be Lorne Balfe. Iím not crazy about Ludwig so for the first time ever in a long time Iím not particularly excited about a Chris Nolan movie soundtrack. I wonder if itís cause Zimmer is damn busy with concerts and movies, could sworn heíd go with someone from RCP@George<br><br>Like I said in another forum, Nolan/Zimmer is one of my favorite collaborations, but if the choice is Zimmer scoring Tenet or Dune, I much rather he than score Dune.<br><br>I honestly probably rather he score Wonder Woman 1984 than Tenet, because Zimmer needs to do more fun films. But then maybe I am making too much assumptions about Tenet. A Nolan espionage movie sounds incredible, but it is probably a cold and dark film.
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Spies (Album)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 47'00
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  1. Once Upon A Time In The... / The Ball (7:00)
  2. Young And Scientific (3:56)
  3. My Killing Hand (2:01)
  4. Pyramids Of The Reich (4:56)
  5. Transmission (0:31)
  6. Holding On (4:55)
  7. Moonlight In Vermont (2:26)
  8. 2529 (4:19)
  9. On The Borderline (4:48)
  10. Stranded (6:49)
  11. Movies For Eva (5:19)
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yossarian reply Replies: 0 || 2019-05-07 14:26:12
> and also Hugo Vereker (Young &-- Scientific and - I think - My Killing Hand)

MKH is performed by Warren Cann. I'd recognize his voice at any time :)

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 9 || 2017-03-23 14:12:35
Holy shit. So I just listened to this album on YouTube and it's FANTASTIC. So much 80s cheeseball fun. And the first track even has the riff in it that would go on to become the First Born theme and then, later on, way way way down the road, 160 BPM from Angels & Demons. It's really incredible how distinct Hans' voice is even as early as 1983. As much as I enjoy the vocals, I'd kill to get instrumental versions of some of these songs.


isildur2017-03-23 15:05:49
Yo dude. Thanks for pointing this out. Listening to it now. Sounds excellent.


isildur2017-03-23 15:19:37
And in the Track 4 isn't that a bit of Inception?


Dimitris Krommidas2017-03-23 16:46:17
Where do you listen to this guys? In my channel? I have the album in my channel.


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-23 16:59:11
Yeah, Dimitris, it was your channel. Thanks man! :)


Dimitris Krommidas2017-03-23 17:09:09
Thank you.


isildur2017-03-23 18:12:25
Wow! I thought I recognized the name of the channel. Awesome dude. Thank you so much.


Dimitris Krommidas2017-03-23 18:26:19
Thanks


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-23 20:12:21
Oh yeah it's great, Moonlight In Vermont even has Beckett's Death from POTC 3 !


Anonymous2017-03-24 03:01:42
Moonlight also reminds me of parts of Chappie!

Michael Poleschuck reply Replies: 0 || 2017-02-15 08:13:11
So that's where the original sources of one of the fragments of Beckett's theme for the third Pirates. Cool!

helenep reply Replies: 1 || 2010-08-04 00:00:00
if for whatever reason zimmer , cann, griff decides not to release the spies album, there will forever be something of great importance missing in the music indistry! just the fact that is never was released does it even more interesting.there are still a lot of people around the world who would be very excited if it happened.it would make their career complete, and such great material should not be forgotten.pleeeeeeeeease!!!!!!


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Simone2012-02-23 13:35:04
I'd love to know in details what was the part of the singer Ronny on this project. Which tracks exactly she does vocals? Kindest regards ;-)


andreas reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-07 00:00:00
i own the remastert CD and the music is Awesome BUT shame they didnt release PYRAMID OF THE REICH first because its the best track + sounds like ultravox......

zaine Griff reply Replies: 0 || 2008-10-10 00:00:00
I was a great time and a pleasure to work with such a great team on the Helden Project.I cant wait for the album to get released.

Chris Celecia reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-06 00:00:00
I also heard for the first time the tracks "Holding On" and "Stranded" and was greatly impressed. They seem timeless at this present day.

I have a feeling that eventually the Spies album will be released. I guess it was meant to be. Hans, Warren and Zaine deserve this as a testament to their creativity, ambitions and friendship. The music contained in this album and Zaine's albums and singles was where it all started for Hans.

Vielen danke fur die Musik von drei Helden! Der Moment fur Spies ist heute und immer und immer!

Chris von Gibraltar

Andrew Ford reply Replies: 0 || 2008-04-11 00:00:00
I recently heard that efforts to release Spies are continuing... been waiting years for this! Hope it finally sees the light of day.

Regards to all,
Andrew

BoysKeepSwingin reply Replies: 0 || 2007-07-10 00:00:00
Recently several videoclips and live-clips from Zaine Griff are added top YouTube and can be watched there. As you might know Hans Zimmer played in Zaine's band, was with him on stage at Zaine's final Grand Finale concert in The Venue London and Hans also arranged a lot of Zaine's music on zaine's second album Figures. Also two of the tracks from SPIES are added (as "audiomovie") on YouTube.

Peter Jansen reply Replies: 0 || 2005-06-28 00:00:00
Are copies of this bootleg still available anywhere - as far as you know? Was it only released in 1984 on vinyl? Or maybe later (also) on CD? I think two tracks are missing from the complete album: the first track "--Mother Company"-- and the last instrumental track "--Eva"--, that should have come after "--Movies for Eva"--. I know that for a long time the Ultravox fanclub tried to convince Hans Zimmer to release the CD. Several times it was close to release -as I understood. But until now it is not there? And why was the album never released? It would have been released on their own label ZiCa records 001 (Zimmer/Cann), but it never was. Do you know the reason. Only the 7"-- and 12"-- of the Single "--Holding On"-- (with beautiful vocals of Zaine Griff and Linda Jardim) was released, with two songs on the B-side. But I think that was never really distributed. Beside that I think in the credits you should mention that Zaine Griff did the vocals on the most songs ( The Ball, Holding On, Stranded, Borderline. Movies for Eva) and also Hugo Vereker (Young &-- Scientific and - I think - My Killing Hand) and excellent female vocals of Linda Jardim on most of the tracks. I think it's worthwhile to mention that! One last question: who were the writers of the songs? Were they all written bij Zimmer/Cann or where some songs written by Zaine Griff? And what was the work done by Steve Rance - also mentioned large on the cover of "--Holding On"--. I thought he was technician or did he do other things in the Helden Project as well?

Antas, Webmaster reply Replies: 0 || 2005-03-05 00:00:00
This album has never been officially released unfortunately

fiedler christian reply Replies: 0 || 2005-03-05 00:00:00
Is it possible to buy the Album "--Spies"-- von "--Helden"--?
sincerly Christian Fiedler

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