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I was wondering about this too. Like all of a sudden, after a couple of Ridley Scott collaborations, he disappeared.Streitenfeld's score for "All I See Is You" isn't added to this site. Does it mean, that Marc left the company?Extremely pleased with the release, remastering, and liner booklet notes.  Nice to finally have all of this music.  Sure, some things could have been done differently, like anything else.  I'll be enjoying a thorough listen this weekend, and may watch the film again, as it's been years.The Thin Red Line >> The New World....Good for you?
I don't like Hans Zimmer, James Horner is my favorite.Uhh, I don't electronic music ain't gonna work on Alita Battle Angel.Jasha just released a neat little piano album!<br>Go check it out: https://itunes.apple .com/no/album/time-lapse-ep/1452867752My only real gripes left with the score is the somewhat uninspired choral writing (and the fact that the choir sounds like samples in a lot of moments) and the reused percussion samples from every JXL action score ever since Mad Max.After repeated listens of the score and seeing the film 3 times, I'd say now that the score is MUCH better than I initially gave it credit for.<br>Alita's theme (the 4 notes first heard at 1:53 in A Discovery) is used many times throughout the score in many instrumental varieties and variations, and used to great effect in emotional scenes<br>(I Don't Even Know My Own Name, What's Your Dream?, In Time You'll Remember, With Me, I'd Give You My Heart, What Did You Do), In the Clouds especially)<br>And do yourself a favor and get I See Church from somewhere, it's the 2nd best action track of the score after Motorball.<br>--------------------<br>In short, I would now give it a 4.5 / 5 from my previous 3 / 5
Hybrid, what's the story with Finale vs. Safe Now? On this page Finale is listed as Jackman and Zimmer. On the OST page, it's Jackman, Zimmer, & Jasha Klebe. The two versions are different too. Finale has a longer intro and a big outro that makes the Time thing even more obvious. So are they two different tracks with different credits, or is Safe Now just Finale clipped short?Oh man, that's a tough question...I haven't listened to Curse of the Black Pearl in a while.... He's credited on almost every track for themes used... "Fog Bound" is the big Klaus Badelt cue from that movie (the real, 5-minute one in the movie is pretty much all Klaus I believe). <br><br>But Hans appears almost everywhere in POTC 1. Sometimes it's arrangements of his themes by the other guys, sometimes it's parts of the tunes that he wrote put directly in like he wrote them... The following scenes are pretty much directly Hans, if I remember right (this is the list I'm referencing ó but as you can see, Zimmer's name is almost everywhere hans-zimmer . com/index.php?rub=disco&id=1128): <br><br>3. Captain Jack Sparrow (Hans wrote the big theme here, as well as the Jack Sparrow stuff at the end)<br>8. Breaking the Chains (more Jack Sparrow theme...) <br>17. Boarding the Dauntless (Jack Sparrow theme...)<br>24. Moonlight Serenade (Zimmer said he wrote this scene like Cinderella walking into a Metallica concert)<br> <br>Aaaaand a lot of the final fighting music is lifted directly out of the suite Zimmer wrote, so it's 90% him. But once again, his themes as arranged by other people appear everywhere. Hybrid can answer way more about all this than I can.<br>Oh wow! Thatís all really interesting. So how much of the OST is really HAnS Zimmer then???Hans was composing The Last Samurai while the first POTC was being made. He had promised Tom Cruise and Edward Zwick (might have even signed a contract) that he would only work on The Last Samurai and no other movies at that time. So while Hans agreed to write the POTC themes for Gore Verbinski, he wasn't allowed to be credited due to his obligations to the Last Samurai. So he wrote a few themes and then handed the score off to Klaus Badelt, who got the "name" credit on the score. But the whole score is really Klaus, Geoff Zanelli, Nick Glennie Smith, Ramin Djawadi, and a few others doing arrangements of the theme that Hans wrote (and Hans writing for a couple scenes incognito, like when Elizabeth first sees the skeleton pirates). Then Klaus did do the dark "Fog Bound/Underwater March" tune, as mentioned.Canít insult me! I am genuinely curious. Whatís this about The Last Samurai???
I'm not saying this to insult David, but it's funny to me that even now, 16 years later, after so many clarifications from HZ and others, people still get confused because of the way POTC 1 got credited. All because Hans had to work on The Last Samurai (which is one of my favorite scores of his, so I guess it was worth the confusion).Saw the film last sunday and loved it. Also loved what Tom Holkenborg did hear. It did not felt nor 300. RoE nor Mad MAx. It's something else and loved it how it worked in context.he is working on the new Terminator movie?! :OCredits for Dua Lipa's single "Swan Song" for the movie:<br>Written by Dua Lipa, Justin Tranter, Kennedi Lykken, Mattias Larsson, Robin Fredriksson & Tom Holkenborg<br>Produced by Mattman & RobinMy definition of a Complete score is somewhat different. My goal is to find and mix everything you hear in the movie. Some things you find, others you don't. That's always an adventure in itself.<br><br>The source cues are not hard to find, sometimes it can be tricky to find the right performance/conductor.<br><br>In the case of TTRL, it's mostly the Beam cues that are difficult to find. Francesco Lupica wrote several pieces of Beam cues specifically for the movie, 5 of them which were used. There's also the 'Concerto for Beam' written by Powell, and there's the 'Sit back & Relax' album that was used. So to me, that's a pretty substantial (and important!) amount of music  that made it into the cut, which hardly anyone ever talks about.<br><br>Anyway, maybe a future project will tackle most of these issues.
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Steve JablonskyAlan MeyersonBlake NeelyBruce Fowler
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Steamboy
Label: Domo Records
Length: 60'49
HZimmer.com rating:        4/5
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  1. Manchester 1866 (5:13)
  2. The Chase (5:02)
  3. Unexpected Meeting (2:20)
  4. Scarlet (1:30)
  5. Raid By The Airship (2:37)
  6. London World Exposition (3:33)
  7. The Atelier Of Ray (1:40)
  8. Crystal Palace Waltz (2:12)
  9. Ray's Dilemma (5:37)
  10. The Sortie Of Scotland Yard (1:46)
  11. Fight In The Exposition Ground (3:44)
  12. Launch! (5:23)
  13. Temptation (3:48)
  14. Fly In The Sky (1:07)
  15. Two Delusions (4:00)
  16. Collapse And Rescue (8:24)
  17. Ray's Theme (2:53)
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superultramegaa reply Replies: 13 || 2018-03-23 00:44:24
After watching the film, and hearing the music in context, I think this is one of the most perfect scores I have ever heard. People talk about Dunkirk being "inseperable from the film", this is a film that just plain wouldn't work without the music. The intensity of the battle music, the character themes/motifs, it's Danny Elfman's Spider-Man levels of perfection.

The most major thing I took away from the experience though is this: Why is Jablonsky not getting more animated films? This score is on the level of Shrek, Finding Nemo, Ice Age, and How to Train Your Dragon! Now, I know he's comfortable around action films and Bay productions, but if Steamboy is anything to go by, his talents are better suited to this genre. This score is too perfect to have been a mere fluke.

Hollywood (or his agent) needs to stop type-casting Jablonsky as a Zimmer/action-type and give him more directors and films that suit his talents. Or at least, don't force him to sound like Zimmer through temp tracks and the like. Once again, I love Transformers 1, 2, and 5. They're fun as hell and have some of Jablonsky's unique traits. But if I had a choice of 2 timelines, where I had to choose one timeline where Jablonsky somehow became a John Powell type, or one where he scored Transformers, I'd choose timeline 1 in a heartbeat.


MrZimmerFan2018-03-23 14:42:57
I don't think Jablonsky is going to be a new John Powell ;)

But this one of his most notable efforts, i will said that.


Edmund Meinerts2018-03-23 14:48:23
I don't think he means that, just that it would have been interesting if Jablonsky had gone more into animated movies like Powell did, rather than mostly Michael Bay. I think maybe we got a hint of what that could have been like with Your Highness a few years ago, a score I'll always defend, but yeah...the lack of follow-up to Steamboy is a great tragedy in Jablonsky's career.


superultramegaa2018-03-23 21:20:41
Edmund's right. It's really just sad that Jablonsky could have been one of the greatest composers ever, one with more notoriety and respect from the music community, but instead settled for being... a decent composer.

TF5 was a step in the right direction, D-War was a great monster movie score, Your Highness came close to Steamboy levels, and IDEA felt like Jablonsky's symphony in a lot of ways. But on the other end you have Ender's Game, Transformers 3 and 4, Battleship, Gears of War 2, Gears of War: Judgement, and a few others that range from ok, to flat out awful. Occasionally though you get some decent ones like Gears of War 3, and A Nightmare on Elm Street.

My point is, we get a composer overridden with bland projects, and musically inept directors, when he had the potential for being Oscar level.


MrZimmerFan2018-03-23 21:58:12
I will disagree with TF3, Ender's Game, Gears of War 2 and 3, there are good scores, altough i'm a massive fan of that guilty pleasure is Battleship ;D

And A Nightmare on Elm Street was cool.


mpolonest123 2018-03-23 22:07:55
Enderís Game isnít bad at all, there are some cool power anthems and orchestral moments in it. As for Battleship, while I find most of it generic, I genuinely do like the alien ďMRIĒ sound design he incorporated.

And one of Jablonskyís most underrated scores imo is Gangster Squad. If you want a fun Jablonsky score that strays away (mostly) from the Zimmer sound thatís it. Any score using Antz as a temp track is fine by me!


MrZimmerFan2018-03-23 22:23:00
Gangster Squad was Ok, but i prefer Ender's Game, actually the sound design in that i find it certain interesting.

In Battleship, yeah, it's nothing original, but for me, is a guilty pleasure, i love the percussion (i'm a big fan of the taiko sound)



superultramegaa2018-03-23 23:12:09
I'll try to explain myself more with the scores I wasn't a big fan of. I really like a lot of Gears of War 3. It has a lot of faster paced, melodic action cues, and the cues from Gears of War 2 are improved. Its main problem is it's not very memorable, which Jablonsky is usually able to produce.

Ender's Game I found to be a bit of a slog. There was a lot of ambient/sound design cues which I found incredibly dull. However, it's possible I was expecting too much, or maybe I was too harsh on it. I'll try to have another listen to that one.

Gangster Squad was one where I just looked at the comments to see what people thought about it, and the consensus was "it copied every recent Hollywood score", so I just skipped that one.

TF3 had a lot of good thematic material, and the finale's action music was a lot of fun, but it lacks the memorability and excitement of the first 2, or the subtlety of 5, making it fall in the middle for me. Plus the Inception sound was pretty annoying.

Gears of War 2 falls into mediocre for me. The main theme is solid, but the action is repetitive and doesn't have much variation. Plus it also wasn't very memorable. It's basically a worse version of Gears 3 to me.

Transformers 1 and 2 don't really count to me because those were more an RCP effort than a Jablonsky one. Just to clarify, I don't hate that Jablonsky went down this route. I first learned of his existence through the Transformers scores for god's sake. It's just that listening to Steamboy, it makes me sad there wasn't more of this side of Jablonsky. Oh, and honorable mention to TMNT: Out of the Shadows, that was a great superhero score!


Bayhem2018-03-25 14:09:41
So much Jablonsky talk and no one mentions PAIN & GAIN. Which, for my money, is easily one of his best - if not the best - scores. Shame that it's so underappreciated by some of his fans. It's unlike any previous Bay/Jablonsky scores. That cool late 80s/early 90s Miami vibe that runs throughout the whole score, it's just perfection. Steve himself said that he had complete freedom doing the score and it shows. When I introduce people to his music, Pain & Gain is usually the score I tend to use.

And I would like to say this: there is a reason why Steve works so much with Mike Bay. As demanding as Bay is with the scores for his movies (as he should be) when you think about it he's actually the only one who allows Steve to really experiment. I mean, Pain & Gain is a perfect example. The Transformers movies have a specific sound, but even with them Steve is allowed to experiment - for example TF3 is a completely different score from TF1. It's not like they had a gun to Steve's head and they were like: "Do ONLY the TF1 sound! Don't you dare do any experiments!". So in my opinion, the notion that Bay somehow holds Steve down and doesn't allow him to show his real talent is simply false.

Peter Berg is actually the director who wants Steve to create nothing but sound design scores. Thankfully, Bay is not like Berg.

By the way, superultramegaa. I agree with pretty much everything you said. However, I don't think it's right to think of the TF1 and TF2 scores as purely an MV/RC effort. Sure, Steve wasn't the only MV/RC composer working on them, but this is certainly not Pirates 1 situation. Steve is not Klaus Badelt. And more importantly, it's Steve himself who wrote all of the great themes from the first movie. The themes people know and love.

So I'd say that both TF1 and TF2 are very much Jablonsky scores. He had help, sure, like all other MV/RC composers who work on such gigantic productions, but still, the Jablosnky sound is pretty obvious. On the surface it may sound like a Zimmer sound, but for the hardcore Jablonsky fans (like you and me) there IS a difference between the Zimmer sound and the Jablonsky sound. Even in the most obvious MV/RC tracks Steve "inserts" some of his own stuff.


superultramegaa2018-03-25 15:16:23
Oh hey, welcome back Bayhem! That's true, I haven't listened to Pain & Gain yet. It's on my list along with retrying Ender's Game. And yeah, of course there's a lot of Jablonsky hallmarks in the those scores. "Autobots" sounds a lot like the horn and string part of Ray's Theme, "Optimus" has the heart-felt woodwind with strings similar to "London World Exposition", and some of the action has a similar pace with percussion rhythm as Steamboy. Plus a few horror tracks of course.

My point is, of course I don't think they suck for ripping off other Zimmer projects. Most of the ones he ripped off were ones he had heavy involvement in to begin with. It's more disappointment that he got so involved with Bay, who doesn't allow for more scores like Steamboy, Your Highness or even D-War. With more clever homages to scores of the genre Steve is scoring and instrument variety. Steve just needs more variety in his movie choices I think. He has talents above pure action and horror, and it would be great to hear more of his other talents.

However, I am extremely interested to hear his new scores. Apparently Game Over, Man! is getting a score release April 20, and Skyscraper is getting a July release. Hope these projects let him do something interesting with the music.


MrZimmerFan2018-03-25 15:21:09
And where is the official annucement for the release score of Game Over, Man! ?



superultramegaa2018-03-25 15:24:26
https://soundtracktracklist.com/release/game-over-man-soundt rack/


MrZimmerFan2018-03-25 15:31:28
Official, not a page when the releasing date are the same day as the movie release.

By the way, was this past Friday.


superultramegaa2018-03-25 15:36:39
It's the most official thing I've found, and it's not even close to the same release date as the film. It's almost a month after.

dark prince reply Replies: 5 || 2014-02-01 06:23:04
Amazing score by Steve Jablonsky, maybe his better score, with an inocent sound to define the protagonist, heroic and epic themes for the action scenes, this is a only score on the filmography of Jablonsky, the top defect of the composer is that he have talent, but sometimes look like he use it when he wants, like on this case and in other moments waste it, in scores like Gears of War: Judgement, Gangster Squad or Ender's Game


MacArthur2014-02-01 16:31:26
Ender's Game was great to.


Edmund Meinerts2014-02-01 17:51:15
This score is light-years beyond Ender's Game. You can't even compare the two.


Macejko2014-02-01 19:06:14
Actually, I think Ender's Game is far better than this.


MrZimmerFan2014-02-01 21:34:33
Ender's Game is a very entertaning score, but i think Steamboy is such of cool


genesis2016-06-09 05:49:20
The reason why this score is so good than any of his other scores is that the main theme/melody (Ray's Theme) is so good.

Its like John Williams score. I think the melody is up there with Superman and Star Wars.
The theme is "that" good.
I felt exactly the same with Mark Mancinas score for Twister.

Miles reply Replies: 2 || 2009-11-14 00:00:00
This an absolutely incredible score, arguably better than Transformers, even! So many memorable tunes and themes blended so well!

@Hybrid Soldier: Perhaps it's just me, but I haven't noticed any real "borrowing" by GZ other than the overarching Remote Control style. The most explicit I've heard is near the end of "Gunnar's Raid" on the Outlander CD, which is pretty much a carbon copy of Jablonsky's theme for The Island.


Edmund Meinerts2012-10-25 00:46:31
If you listen to Zanelli's unreleased cue "Escaping Cannibal Island" from Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest you'll hear about 30 seconds or so that are copied directly from "Fight in the Exposition Ground" from Steamboy. My jaw literally dropped when I heard that listening to the expanded DMC the first time.

...I just realized I replied to a post from 2009. *shrug*


Edmund Meinerts2012-10-25 00:49:28
This score needs way more love, by the way. As fun as Transformers is, I have to say that Steamboy is a more unique and dynamic work, one that manages to step out a lot further from Zimmer's shadow and showcase the true voice and style of Steve Jablonsky. The only other score where he got to stretch his wings like that is Your Highness...and it always makes me sad when he has to write a Zimmer copycat/sound design/headache-inducing thing like Battleship.

But check out Steamboy if you haven't yet. It's easily SJ's best :)

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-14 00:00:00
@ Miles,

Black Hawk down is in Outlander too!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2009-07-19 00:00:00
You know, GZ likes borrowing stuff from his pals... ;)

Deakins reply Replies: 0 || 2009-07-19 00:00:00
Yes, but these guys work in the same "enterprise" and the exchange of ideas is their strenght (and their major default for certain people).

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2009-07-18 00:00:00
After listening to some cues in Geoff's website... i was wondering. Did he wrote any cues for this? Its strange... no additional music on this one?

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2006-12-21 00:00:00
It's wonderful! I love it!

N1Ce reply Replies: 0 || 2006-08-11 00:00:00
An awesome score, i have been listening to it for over a year and had never got bored of it!

Paul reply Replies: 0 || 2006-03-18 00:00:00
A Great Score. A 15 out of 10 :):):):) Hope That Steve Jablonsky More Music Like This Composes

Shinji reply Replies: 0 || 2005-04-18 00:00:00
Definately one of the best scores i've heard from these guys in the last few months, a score that perfectly matches the pace of the movie, for example the awesome Chase scene/track. It is melodic, most of the time very rythmic and fast paced music, plus a great main theme. Jablonsky did an awesome job, and i hope we will hear more of his music soon (The Island maybe?), because he sure has some huge amount of talent hidden somewhere inside. This score is a huge step out of Zimmer's shadow.

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