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Excited!!!God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)"It's good shit lieutenant" The principle is based on Thomas Newman's Bond.  "Take back what's ours" and "the truth" is Ad astrahonnestly, I do get why people refer to MW2, but to be honest, it's not the same.  With the amount of time I heard that score, I can say that it uses the same drums, and a pattern that is quite similar to the one used in MW2, but it is not a copy/paste.  It's no different to me than Junkie XL re-using the same pattern of drum in all of his recent scores since Mad Max.  When it comes from the same composer, I guess it's normal to have works that parts that similar from a score to another.  Just think of John Murphy who re-use his powerful theme from Sunshine in a lot of his scores (28 weeks later, kick-ass, etc).   <br><br>Actually I'm quite glad he re-used the themes from Mancina as that was, to me at least, a big miss for BB2 even though Rabin and Jablonsky did a great job.  It's like doing a James Bond movie without the Bond theme.  It might be good, but it miss the little something that gel everything together. ;)  I really like what Lorne did on this one.  Even though he re-used the theme, he made them his own, in a similar way he did with MI Fallout, while sometime paying homage to the original ones. ;)  My 2 cents.
Not really familiar with either Mancina’s BB score or MW2, but I’m really enjoying this. It’s like an old-school MV score filtered through Lorne’s sound. The main tune (which I’m guessing is Mancina’s) is a lot of fun, particularly when paired with the choir. <br><br>And as for Ad Astra, the villain motif in “Take Back What’s Ours” sounds like it was directly lifted from the space scenes of that score.can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?I love the score. It is action packed and to the point.<br><br>I saw his orchestra clips as well but I wonder why he actually spends the money and effort for orchestra when the end product sounds (as usually) 100 percent sample library. All the dynamics of real players are gone in the final mix so why bother with orchestra at all...I'm highly disappointed by the score... Lorne went the very easy way and recycled the MW2 score as well as the Mancina theme in almost every track. Like seriously... the only thing u here is MW2, Main Theme and lot of rustle-synth score. 1/10! No effort went in this score and I dont say that often.
As for Ad Astra, unfortunately i can't hear anything from Ad Astra aswell :/ It's just MW2 mixed with Mancinas themes for me. And the cues from MW2, they aren't just drums, all the guitars, melodies, vibes, even the choir or the voices are included. The above mentioned cues from MW2 are not complete, there are plenty of them, but these will give you the idea of what we've mentioned. Again, i'm not mad, i'm happy that a wider audience can hear these cues, but then again, on MW2 they sounded better and fresher than on the BB3 score (i mean the quality of the recordings - you can hear the cues and instruments more directly. On the BB3 score it sounds like being in a bathroom hearing to the MW2 score). And as i said earlier, i would like to understand or know what Lorne thought about using all these cues. Time pressure? Unused opportunity for a wider audience? And then again that synth-sound even using a real orchestra :/@ Mr Tweedy:<br><br>MW2 has hundred of cues, which has all the special atmosphere and sound-effects, but try listen to these cues to understand what i and others mean:<br><br>- Guerilla Tactics <br>- Guerilla<br>- Contingency<br>- Breach<br>- Retreat and Reveille<br><br>Funny thing, play the cue "Guerilla Tactics" from MW2 and let Shazam try to find out what track that is. It shows me as "Lorne Balfe - We're Dangerous People" from BB3 :DI really like this score!<br>Sure he used Mancina's Theme, that's allright cool, I don't hear anything similar to Ad Astra....don't know why somebody compare this score with Ad Astra....<br>That MW2 sounds are very great, he don't copy himself, he just used the Drums, what's definitely be OK!!<br><br>I don't know why people always want to compare scores....Everybody use his own Temp Music sometimes, that's normal!Please could you give me the exact name of the track from MW2 that is used in BB3? I’d like to compare both!I love Lorne´s music and all, but I am genuinely wondering, why they decided to re-use MW2 so much in the score
as for the drums, yes, i would understand. but the orchestra? you're recording the strings from a real orchestra, so why the downgrade in sound-quality?Because that parts are sampled drums and there are no real?i don't know what to think about the use of mw2. i mean, i love his work for mw2, it's TOO good to be just a score for a game, a wider audience should hear this, so i'm kind of happy to hear some parts of it here. BUT somehow, it's kind of a lazy move just to copy that 1:1. some cues are untouched and some cues are layered with some themes of mancina. i would be interested to know what was he thinking while doing this? <br><br>i followed his video uploads on his social media channels, where he showed some snippets of the orchestra and i truly loved that. but while hearing at the score, i'm dissappointed to hear the quality as it sounds like synth. i mean that typically Balfe synth sound quality. if he uses truly orchestra, than it's a shame and pitty that it sounds like synths in the end. he needs a better recording or mixing or whatever to get rid of that synth-quality-design and having the true-orchestra feelingMancina's theme + Ad Astra + MW:2= Bad boys for Life.Please enlighten me on how Bad Boys 3 sounds the same as Lego Batman or Genius: Picasso
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Conductor - Orchestrator
Mark MancinaTrevor RabinPaul LinfordNick Glennie-Smith
ComposerComposerScore ProducerConductor
Con Air
Label: Hollywood Records
Length: 44'57
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  1. Con Air Theme (1:31)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  2. Trisha (1:04)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  3. Carson City (3:04)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  4. Lear Crash (4:44)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  5. Lerner Landing (3:28)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  6. Romantic Chaos (1:22)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  7. The Takeover (3:52)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  8. The Discharge (1:09)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  9. Jailbirds (0:59)
    Trevor Rabin
  10. Cons Check Out Lerner (1:55)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  11. Poe Saves Cops (2:25)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  12. The Fight (0:22)
    Trevor Rabin
  13. Battle In The Boneyard (7:41)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  14. Poe Meets Larkin (1:14)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  15. Bedlam Larkin (0:49)
    Trevor Rabin
  16. Fire Truck Chase (4:22)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
  17. Overture (4:18)
    Mark Mancina, Trevor Rabin
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Bayhem reply Replies: 3 || 2018-04-02 21:55:15
I think it's safe to say that this is the MV/RC score that our "favorite" Filmtracks guy hates the most. I don't care about critics in general (I read some stuff simply for entertainment), I just find it amusing how much he hates this one.

Yes, it's very loud and harsh and frenetic. But calling it a "wretched piece of work" is a bit over-the-top. At least in my opinion. What's your opinion on this one, folks?


Edmund Meinerts2018-04-02 22:10:28
I used to not like it all that much and it's still a bit of a cheap-sounding mess, but like most of the late-90s MV scores, it has aged well, with memorable themes and a sense of fun that elevates it above many a joyless, droning RC score of today.


mpolonest123 2018-04-02 22:24:08
I used to hate this score (in context) just based on the villain’s theme, which is about as cliched an evil motif as you can get. That being said, this score really has aged well and may be the dumbest, if not one of the most fun MV scores out there. It also helps that both Mark Mancina and Trevor Rabin are extremely talented.


Bayhem2018-04-02 23:54:59
Agreed. Compared to a lot of more recent MV/RC scores, this one holds up extremely well. It works better. Having said that, I think this would've been a way better score if Rabin was by himself. Think about it, his style, his rock n roll approach is just perfect for a movie like Con Air. Mancina - even though I like him a lot - seems to be out of place, as far as this project is concerned. The only reason Rabin wasn't by himself is that he was at the start of his career and Mancina at that point was everywhere (Bad Boys, Speed, Twister, Fair Game...).

The two have very different styles actually, and maybe that's why this score doesn't sit well with some people. I'm sure it would've been received way better if it was composed by Rabin and HGW. I mean, just look at Armageddon!

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2014-06-09 23:45:11
What a fun score... Just watched the movie again, reminded me of the good old times. Huge and fun action flicks with this old, classic RC sound... I need more movies like Face/Off, The Rock and this one.

Ele reply Replies: 2 || 2009-10-13 00:00:00
Who made which cue? Anyone knows?


El Baradei2012-12-28 17:14:05
Michel Legrand co-composed Track 12, The Fight. It seemed to be really necessary because it lasts 22 seconds.


Mike2012-12-29 09:21:02
^ lol ^

asdf reply Replies: 0 || 2009-07-30 00:00:00
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nick reply Replies: 0 || 2008-03-16 00:00:00
very good

aRRR reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-05 00:00:00
Probably a very underrated score, i like it!

airmax reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-01 00:00:00
very good score

Alonso reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-09 00:00:00
very good!

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