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<br>"Listen to the 'scores' he composed. At best, marginal efforts in sound libraries, they are just utterly shitty."<br><br>Blackwood might want to have a word with you.Too many songs! But at least there is 15 tracks of score.<br><br>BTW, I don't think Djawadi is able just to do themes. His score in GoT Season 7 shows that he is able to do action tracks very well. Also, in GoT Season 6, he shows that he is able to have many themes and develop them in many different ways.Meta your comment is based on smoke...<br><br><br>Do you have any idea of what Hans & Elfman's relation is ? How many scores Danny mixed at Remote Control ? That when Hans was writing Batman Begins, Danny was in the next room and Hans invited him to check what he was doing ? How many people from RCP Elfman recruited to help him ?lol it's too funny the guy even spent the time of typing all this...<br><br>Some people apparently have very boring lives on this planet !These comments by “Balfe” are comical.god knows where such venom comes from . Maybe an ex employee probably.he was correct on one point .He is indeed a trailer composer.He just did the mission impossible trailer!!!
LOL. I guess this "Balfe" guy is one of those trolls from Stop RCP group.Many benevolent saviours explaining the error of our music tastes have surfaced recently, haven't they?Eh, Mr. Ellipsis, I have to take issue with your appeal to popularity. Justin Bieber sells millions of records. That doesn't make his music good. Last year's piece of crap pointless Beauty and the Beast remake made a frankly terrifying amount of money at the box office. Doesn't stop it being a piece of crap.Guys, I know a lot of you probably think I'm an overly critical snob, but next time you do, just remember this guy and realize how much worse I could be. :pBalfe is not a composer, but still he gets to compose dozens of films and shows every single year, wow. He must be doing something good if he is on of the most busiest composers out there, don´t you think? Or you want to tell me that every producer, director or whoever hires him is deaf? Do you know how many films had to be re-scored by Balfe in the past few years? <br><br>
Why you feed the troll?<br><br>Wrong.<br><br>1. Wallfish is a very fine composer, period. Hans is a synth guy.<br><br>2. If Hans wasn't concern about BR he wouldn't do it.<br><br>3. Slavery was abolished 150 years ago. Hans choose to did it and agreed to involve Wallfish.<br><br>4. Maybe true, but it wasn't the thought of Villeneuve.here we go again:<br>Why Hans Zimmer Got The Job You Wanted (And You Didn’t)<br>https://behindtheaudio.com/2013/07/hans-zimmer/Hey you guys.<br><br>Balfe is a trailer composer not someone who composes real scores. He helps Hans out on his projects and occasionally may have a good idea. He is not an artist, simple as that.<br><br>Listen to the 'scores' he composed. At best, marginal efforts in sound libraries, they are just utterly shitty. The epitome of that is Terminator Genisys that even fans of the franchise found embarassing (and that is for a series based on synth scores). The samples are especially abhorrent<br><br>How he climbed to compose music for real films is a mystery. Go back to one of his earliest scores, the 2009 'score' for Ironclad, to find how utterly disappointing his work has been all the way throughout his career.<br><br>Balfe is a hack. He will never be considered a real composer. The industry knows Hans is pushing him and once that attention goes somewhere else, as it does with Hans frequently, Balfe will be immediately forgotten. Tell me - who actually wants a Lorne Balfe score for their film!!<br><br>You rapid fans supporting his work will be laughed at as being idiotic symbiotic followers. Get a fragging grip.<br><br>Balfe is not a composer. <br><br><br>This score is probably the largest failure of Zimmer's career - these would have been his objectives - think about it:<br><br>1. Enhancing the work of Vangelis for a project he has always admired.<br>2. The chance to work with an absolutely open palette of sounds<br>3. The opportunity to truly reinvent not only film music but MUSIC.<br>4. Ability to work with Denis Villeneuve, a man who gets scores nominated for the fact that they are innovative.<br><br>How did Hans fail here?<br><br>1. Wallfisch, a very fine composer is not a synth guy.<br><br>2. Hans does not give a shit anymore, seriously.<br><br>3. An imposed composer on a passion project rarely works<br><br>4. Johannson's work on Arrival is so beyond Zimmer's abilities that he had to go secure.
This score is probably the largest failure of Zimmer's career - these would have been his objectives - think about it:<br><br>1. Enhancing the work of Vangelis for a project he has always admired.<br>2. The chance to work with an absolutely open palette of sounds<br>3. The opportunity to truly reinvent not only film music but MUSIC.<br>4. Ability to work with Denis Villeneuve, a man who gets scores nominated for the fact that they are innovative.<br><br>How did Hans fail here? <br><br>1. Wallfisch, a very fine composer is not a synth guy. <br><br>2. Hans does not give a shit anymore, seriously.<br><br>3. An imposed composer on a passion project rarely works<br><br>4. Johannson's work on Arrival is so beyond Zimmer's abilities that he had to go secure. <br><br><br>Dunkirk is a sound experiment and not a score. It is rather sad to see a fine composer like Benjamin Wallfisch deal with this nationalistic nonsense.It would be very interesting to get a better sense of what exactly Zanelli's role in the franchise is. He is a very capable composer but his work on 5 was utter scheisse. But that may just be what the franchise calls for. How does the supposedly precarious Hans put his name on all this shit.I would not be surprised if this was done by Balfe finally trying out his real compositional skills outside of him just acting as Hans' copy assistant. Everything that Balfe has done on his own to date is abysmal (okay The Lego Batman movie had some flair but that was probably done by the next generation of assistants). <br><br>Please go back to Ironclad and listen to Balfe before he was HBalfe, to hear his skills. Not very good, right? The man is an arranger not a composer.<br><br>This score will be utterly crap or it will sound like Tron and Transformers. <br><br>Shame as Del Toro and Steven Knight work with real composers like Max Richter who would have excelled here.Instead of concerning ourselves with Sia, we have to be worried about Djawadi. The man has a knick for a simple tv tune. But anything outside of that sounds like a youtube fanvideo. The incidental score for Game of Thrones, especially the wall scenes, is terrible and amateurish. <br><br>All I can think is that the producers must have been pressed with time and had to go with the casio synth nonsense Djawadi presented them with. It is the worst example of scoring for a major franchise. <br><br>Again, Dwajadi does well with his choral bits but he is not a composer, more a theme tune man. Who Wants to be a Millionare would serve him better than a complex franchise. <br><br>Simultaneously, the Paint it Black material from Westworld is outstanding. But was this done by Djawadi or a much more talented orchestrator - can we look into this as it sounds nothing like his work
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Hans ZimmerRupert Gregson-WilliamsHalli CautheryDavid Buckley
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Winter's Tale (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 77'27
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  1. Logos - Opening (6:08)
    Hans Zimmer, Rupert Gregson-Williams
  2. Horse - Peter Chased (1:22)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  3. Light (1:08)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, Tony Clarke
  4. The Box (1:10)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, Halli Cauthery
  5. Pearly's Office (0:37)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, Halli Cauthery
  6. Yahtzee - Raid (1:06)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, Halli Cauthery
  7. Willa (0:43)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  8. Stars (1:01)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  9. Greedy Horse (0:55)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  10. Break In (2:32)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  11. The Best Thing You've Ever Stolen (1:43)
    Hans Zimmer, Rupert Gregson-Williams
  12. Kill The Waiter (1:11)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, Halli Cauthery
  13. 10 Songs (0:45)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, James Roberson
  14. Horse Chase (6:43)
    Hans Zimmer, Rupert Gregson-Williams
  15. In The Forest (1:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Rupert Gregson-Williams
  16. Princess Bed - Meet Lucifer (3:27)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  17. Lucifer Yells (0:51)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  18. I'd Life To Go Dancing (0:42)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  19. Masquerade Waltz (1:40)
    Aram Khatchatourian, Rupert Gregson-Williams
  20. Un Bal (1:11)
    Hector Berlioz, Halli Cauthery
  21. Love Making (4:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Rupert Gregson-Williams
  22. Beverly Dies - Funeral (4:01)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  23. Showdown (3:46)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, Halli Cauthery
  24. Peter Remembers (7:42)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  25. Pearly's Office #2 (0:32)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, Halli Cauthery
  26. Microfiche (1:44)
    Hans Zimmer, Rupert Gregson-Williams
  27. Little Willa (1:36)
    Hans Zimmer, Rupert Gregson-Williams
  28. The Night She Died (1:49)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  29. Tell The Boss (0:20)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, James Roberson
  30. You Will Have To Say The Words (0:49)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, Halli Cauthery
  31. Red Hair (2:44)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, David Buckley
  32. Flying (1:32)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  33. Final Confrontation (4:31)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, Halli Cauthery
  34. Abbey To The Bed (2:57)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  35. Miracle (3:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Rupert Gregson-Williams
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HZFAn reply Replies: 0 || 2016-07-27 18:01:07
Hey Hybrid, what's with some be Complete Score Sites here:)

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 2 || 2016-01-18 22:59:21
Whoa, there's something weird going on here! Why are all the comments about Black Hawk Down? :p


Mike2016-01-19 15:09:29
Yeah, strange... The comments section carried over from a Black Hawk Down bootleg. :P Is this the same page reincarnated, Hybrid?


Hybrid Soldier2016-01-19 15:26:34
I have sooooo many useless pages on this site, yeah sometimes I recycle ! :P

Rob reply Replies: 0 || 2014-01-03 12:23:53
i have just listened to an edit of this from a shiny place. i hate edits but this works perfectly. i didnt skip one track!

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 5 || 2014-01-01 03:09:42
*whistles* I'm impressed


Mike2014-01-01 03:16:54
I think this is fake... There's a reason it doesn't appear in a search for Black Hawk Down on this site... ;)


matthew2014-01-01 16:18:00
maybe this is fake but the real complete recording sessions with unused / alternate / unreleased ideas yust arrived before christmas. I'm surprised nobody talks about it because since 2001 after many bootleg versions and so-called 3cd recording sessions, this is the only and first real thing.


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-01 19:42:44
Yes and I'm not gonna add it, cause I'm lazy...


Sam2014-01-01 19:48:33
Yes, then just don't comment it, if you're so lazy. -.-


Poe2014-01-02 05:55:31
Hybrid Soldier, do the cues have real, not-fan-created names?

GerART reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-11 00:00:00
Hi! Please, I really want the theme of Soldiers Back On* the part of the final battle, anybody can say me where I could download this track, please!! ;) Thanks!

Gav reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-26 00:00:00
But theres two alternates of Hunger, where did one of them come from if the other is from a deleted scene?

Im aware its asking a lot but can anyone do a breakdown of each piece and how it was made, e.g.

01. OST track + Dooley Website track
02. OST track
03. Deleted Scene
04. Isolated music from DVD bonus, etc?

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-25 00:00:00
Demos are ripped from the DVD bonus feature that show's how Zimmer went about creating the music. Hunger (Alternative) is ripped from the deleted scene that show's the replaced cue with Josh's voice.

Interestingly enough, there seemed to be two seperate themes as there was suppose to be a rock version of the battle theme and a orchestral version of the battle theme. I'm guessing he merged and edited them for "Tribal War". I think however (if it's still up on youtube) that someone has gotten a hold of the orchestral version of the battle theme but cut as it merges up with 'Tribal War'.

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-24 00:00:00
"- I think there's a cue from movie Avalon, completely different style of music but one of the cues has a similar melody."

I can confrim that, altough it is only a few seconds but yeah someone used Kenji Kawai's masterpiece. I'm not sure but it is the 6th track from this album's first CD.

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-24 00:00:00
The several sources of cues are combined together in a random way. You have sometimes an OST track combined with a song combined with something else...

The sources :
- OST tracks
- 15 minutes from the DVD bonuses, edited here and there in various cues
- Some cues are songs (Ambush is a song by artist Badawi, and isn't called Ambush originally)
- 1 promo cue from Jim Dooley's website (Cavalry - not available anymore), there is an alternate version available at Trevor Morris website.
- 5 or 6 cues from Jeff Rona's website.
- I think there's a cue from movie Avalon, completely different style of music but one of the cues has a similar melody.
- I'm not sure but there were 3 tracks from BHD on an Heitor Pereira's promo CD, don't remember if they are used here...

Gav reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-24 00:00:00
Hey fellas what is the source for this edition? Is it the OST and DVD alone or are there extra sources used to make it (website tracks, etc)?

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-10 00:00:00
@ Ele

Yeah, alot of good track's are on the 3 CD version. One particular favorite is Night Battle - Cavalry. Since it uses 'Tribal War' and a continuation 'Cavalry' from this version.

This version has some edit's from the 3 CD version, though what I would take from this version is 'Soldier's Back On' and 'Hunger (Alterante Version)'. It's a real shame that 'Soldier's Back On' is in mono. If anyone has it in stereo, that could actually complete the main action theme's of Black Hawk Down.

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2009-10-20 00:00:00
@ Ele

Not currently.

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2009-10-20 00:00:00
What is, then? Some of the cues here are mono, is there bootleg with those cues in stereo?

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2009-10-20 00:00:00
@ Ele

The 3 CD version is as close as you will get to the complete score, add some of the new music from this version to the 3 CD version and you will probably have the closest thing to a complete score.

Also, there is no bootleg that has some of the cues in stereo.

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2009-10-20 00:00:00
@Ruthless Are there any really cool tracks in 3 CD version? I see its about 20 mins longer. Is that worth it?

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2009-09-15 00:00:00
I heard this is best complete score for that movie. Is it true?

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-09 00:00:00
Although each bootleg of that score has different track names and I'm not exactly sure about the track you're mentionning... but I think that the instrument you're talking about is an electric cello.

Rick reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-08 00:00:00
Can anyone tell me what kind of instrument there using in the nummer `still` is that a violet
or something else ( the dark sound when it get busy )

julian reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-13 00:00:00
amazing score. I could hear it every day

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-12 00:00:00
So I have had the chance to listen to this version, pretty interesting that there is a couple of new music in here. The sad part is, some of the new music are crap audio. Other parts where there is new music is actually from Jeff Rona's Reel examples

eliseo g....... reply Replies: 0 || 2009-01-26 00:00:00
esta buenisima la peli, la banda sonora perfecta, solo quisiera saver como la bajo este score, es buenisimo yo tengo todas sus bandas sonoras de hans zimmer, pero en normales, quisiera en esta version porfavor - (perdon no se escrivir mucho en ingles lo siento) - okisssssssssssssssssssssssssss.............

SSgt Ray Gibbs reply Replies: 0 || 2008-10-01 00:00:00
Hey guys the movie and soundtrack are both amazing!!! i was just thinking about a certain song too thats not on the soundtrack but i thinks its on the one above #### ... thanks :)

daniel reply Replies: 0 || 2008-09-17 00:00:00
Faboulos movie...unbelivebil...

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-13 00:00:00
Sadly yet another bad quality one with mono tracks. Dunno why it is Hans' scores which suffer from bad boots... LOL

norway guy reply Replies: 0 || 2008-03-07 00:00:00
LOL

i saw your guy talkin about the soundtrack: Soldiers Back On. i cant sat what i think about it, because i havent heard it.

its only the track list here .

L O L !!!!!!!!!! but thanks any way. i think those people working on this site have done a wery good job! i love your work on show us that it in fact si hans zimmer bootlegs, so we could contunue dreaming and hope find one of them, one day ;)
thanks again for all your work on this, it have helped me A LOT !!!!!!!!!!!

fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2007-08-23 00:00:00
enormous

Falconet reply Replies: 0 || 2007-07-25 00:00:00
Hi,the track "Soldiers Back On" sound not good,what a bad! it seems to be a nice one!

Joseph reply Replies: 0 || 2007-03-18 00:00:00
black hoek down the past flim

yvan (france) reply Replies: 0 || 2007-02-28 00:00:00
la chute du faucon noir est un véritable film ŕ suspense

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