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Because they didn't work direcly in this score, but their material from the previous one was reused.Does anyone know why some of the composer names are in brackets? Thanks!thanks4:05 of "STEALTH" some of the best soulful action music I've heard from a Zimmer score. I wonder who wrote that particular section. This the type of stuff I would play trying to rush a pregnant woman to the hospitalIn case he's visiting this site, I wanna say 'Thank You' to Ashton Gleckman who does the 'Behind the Score' episodes on YouTube. I loved the 1-hour episode for the Transformers scores and I actually learned a lot. Very educational. I found the video by accident and now I plan on watching his other videos as well.<br><br>Job well done, my friend.
@Hybrid <br>You don't add anymore Trevor Morris things ?Probably for chronological purposes<br>even though the movie uses a shortened version of Romanian Wind at that timei saw the movie a couple of weeks ago again and the showdown in the school is very well shot and intense and trevors music is effective there. you can hear track 8 and 19 in that scene. a really good action scene.<br>===============================<br><br><br>I agree. <br><br>And I think at the end of the day the movie itself is not the type of movie that could win people over with its score. No matter how successful and popular it is and no matter how good the score is. I Am Number 4 was part of the YA craze that took over Hollywood a few years back (we all know how people feel about those movies), and even the most successful YA movies (like Twilight) are not exactly known for their scores.<br><br>People - even film critics who are supposed to talk about all aspects of the movie - were too busy talking about half-naked characters and Kristen Stewart's acting..... and completely ignoring the good work done by Alexandre Desplat.<br><br>It was pretty much the same with I Am Number Four...<br><br>It's not that Trevor created a "bad" score, it's simply a case of a nice, little score that went under the radar. No one bothered to talk about it..... Just like his score for Torque, which as far as I'm concerned is one of his best scores.I just find it odd how people gravitate to the triumphant or inspirational music first, rather than the more subtle, unique pieces.<br>===========================<br><br><br>I totally get what you're saying. I also get kinda frustrated when a "big" track overshadows an entire score. The best recent examples are IMO the Transformers scores. I don't blame folks for gravitating towards the epic sound and the power anthems, but A LOT of subtle, equally great tracks end up getting completely ignored. And just like you, they're usually my favorite tracks. <br><br>But why most people don't think like us?<br><br>The reason I think is because those "big tracks" are presented - most of the time - during the most memorable moments in those movies. They immediately get people's attention. They're stuck in their mind along with those iconic images. And I think by nature, people are more attracted to the big and "in your face". For most casual listeners the more subtle tracks work in the context of the movie and they absolutely do notice them while watching the actual film. But unlike you and I they don't feel the need to listen to them separately. They're too busy paying attention to the "big track". That goes even for some score fans.<br><br>While tracks like the Star War theme, the Indy theme, the Transformers theme, the Gladiator theme, the Godfather theme, the Armageddon theme, the Pirates theme, the Lord of the Rings theme are so big, melodic abd easily digestable that folks simply can't resist them. And when there are vocals involved as well (like Gladiator) it's even better, because people treat it as a full-blown song. An emotional song that they can listen to over and over again.<br><br>The subtle tracks simply can't win against that. Sadly....<br><br>By the way, speaking of The Island, My Name is Lincoln (as much as I like it) is not my favorite track of the score. The more subtle opening track (The Island Awaits You) and especially the Lima One Alpha theme are my personal favorite tracks. Of course, they're nowhere near My Name is Lincoln, in terms of popularity.<br>Why is Romanian Wind not sequenced after Case Re-Opened? Is not the former 7M48 and the latter 7M47?
Yeah that is true, can’t argue there lol<br><br>And is it me or does “Calypso Must Be Released” sound like Black Hawk Down?To be fair there is a lot of King Arthur in At World's End too. Just the general feeling you get from the action tracks in both scores is virtually identical. Hell, one of the main themes from King Arthur even appears when Bootstrap Bill remembers that Will is his son.@MrTweedy<br>That’s totally fine, everyone has their own favorite HZ scores, which is awesome!<br><br>It’s funny though, I feel like DMC is far more schizophrenic than AWE. Now don’t get me wrong, I absolutely love DMC. It’s the score that got me into Hans Zimmer. But still, I feel like a major part of that score is note-for-note reprises of cues/themes from COTBP. Not to mention the temp tracking of King Arthur.<br><br>AWE always felt far more original to me, especially considering that the entire tone of the music shifts from the “rock’n’roll” sound of the first two to a more traditional score (at least by Hans Zimmer standards lol)@MrTweedy<br><br>Just curious, what scores do you considered to be Zimmer's best?The Pinnacle of Hans' career?<br>Although I really like this score, I don't agree. But hey, I know it's just a matter of opinion, okay? ;)<br><br>Of course it shows Hans strengths in almost every area (action, drama, romance, comedy...) but for me it's too much of a medley of previous works, without much personality.<br>It feels a bit like a palette with too many colors. From the action sequences borrowed from Drop Zone, to the Morricone inspirations for Jack's Sequences, to Gladiator's duduk that ended up there with no real reason, to a beautiful Love Theme that brings another new shape to the sonic identity... it's like the score sometimes goes schizophrenic.<br><br>Though each individual idea is really enjoyable to listen to, I think Hans has made scores that are much more cohesive and enjoyable as a whole!
i also think it is an underrated score. especially the action music has a couple of nice touches. i saw the movie a couple of weeks ago again and the showdown in the school is very well shot and intense and trevors music is effective there. you can hear track 8 and 19 in that scene. a really good action scene. the emotional music is nothing ground breaking, but a lovely listen.Y'know, it's funny. The big names that always get the most attention in film music are often not my favorite tracks of the scores they represent. Now We Are Free, Arrival to Earth, Like A Dog Chasing Cars, Star Wars Main Theme, Indiana Jones Main Theme, Infinite White, One Day, Circle of Life, The Fellowship. Though they are the most well known, they're usually nowhere near the peak of quality of their scores. <br><br><br>I noticed this the most in Hans Zimmer's concerts (not World of Hans Zimmer mind you). The parts he played from The Dark Knight Trilogy in particular usually had the least substance. Just the bombastic tracks. The only choice I agreed with was Time from Inception. There was no Am I Not Merciful, A Watchful Guardian, Sunrise Over Pride Rock, none of that. <br><br><br>Even with Star Wars, the main theme and the Force theme are solid pieces of music, but neither come close to the beauty of Princess Leia's theme, or the wondrous Yoda theme. <br><br><br>Same with Lord of the Rings. The Fellowship Reunited, Very Old Friends, Gollum, and The Breaking of the Fellowship are much more substantial pieces than The Fellowship Theme alone in my opinion. <br><br><br>Can't say anything about My Name is Lincoln because I haven't finished The Island score yet, but yeah. I just find it odd how people gravitate to the triumphant or inspirational music first, rather than the more subtle, unique pieces.Thanks guys, will check out these cues.Hmm, aside from "The Guardian Suite' I don't think I've heard any other tracks from this score. And I have a feeling I'm not the only one....lol.<br><br>Speaking of.........I would most definitely put "The Guardian Suite' right up there next to "Now We Are Free" and "My Name is Lincoln". It's *that* good and powerful. Shame that the movie is not as popular as The Island and Gladiator. If it was, that suite would've been one of the most popular film score tracks with millions of views on YouTube. It certainly deserves it.Very underrated score. As already pointed out by a couple of reviewers, it's a nice, little throwback to MV/RC's Golden Years and Trevor's own scores from 1997 to 2002. Give it a listen if you can. It's not long and it's worth it.
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Winter's Tale (Complete Score)
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  1. Logos - Opening (6:08)
    Hans Zimmer, Rupert Gregson-Williams
  2. Horse - Peter Chased (1:22)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  3. Light (1:08)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, Tony Clarke
  4. The Box (1:10)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, Halli Cauthery
  5. Pearly's Office (0:37)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, Halli Cauthery
  6. Yahtzee - Raid (1:06)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, Halli Cauthery
  7. Willa (0:43)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  8. Stars (1:01)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  9. Greedy Horse (0:55)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  10. Break In (2:32)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  11. The Best Thing You've Ever Stolen (1:43)
    Hans Zimmer, Rupert Gregson-Williams
  12. Kill The Waiter (1:11)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, Halli Cauthery
  13. 10 Songs (0:45)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, James Roberson
  14. Horse Chase (6:43)
    Hans Zimmer, Rupert Gregson-Williams
  15. In The Forest (1:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Rupert Gregson-Williams
  16. Princess Bed - Meet Lucifer (3:27)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  17. Lucifer Yells (0:51)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  18. I'd Life To Go Dancing (0:42)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  19. Masquerade Waltz (1:40)
    Aram Khatchatourian, Rupert Gregson-Williams
  20. Un Bal (1:11)
    Hector Berlioz, Halli Cauthery
  21. Love Making (4:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Rupert Gregson-Williams
  22. Beverly Dies - Funeral (4:01)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  23. Showdown (3:46)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, Halli Cauthery
  24. Peter Remembers (7:42)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  25. Pearly's Office #2 (0:32)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, Halli Cauthery
  26. Microfiche (1:44)
    Hans Zimmer, Rupert Gregson-Williams
  27. Little Willa (1:36)
    Hans Zimmer, Rupert Gregson-Williams
  28. The Night She Died (1:49)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  29. Tell The Boss (0:20)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, James Roberson
  30. You Will Have To Say The Words (0:49)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, Halli Cauthery
  31. Red Hair (2:44)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, David Buckley
  32. Flying (1:32)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  33. Final Confrontation (4:31)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams, Halli Cauthery
  34. Abbey To The Bed (2:57)
    Rupert Gregson-Williams
  35. Miracle (3:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Rupert Gregson-Williams
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HZFAn reply Replies: 0 || 2016-07-27 18:01:07
Hey Hybrid, what's with some be Complete Score Sites here:)

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 2 || 2016-01-18 22:59:21
Whoa, there's something weird going on here! Why are all the comments about Black Hawk Down? :p


Mike2016-01-19 15:09:29
Yeah, strange... The comments section carried over from a Black Hawk Down bootleg. :P Is this the same page reincarnated, Hybrid?


Hybrid Soldier2016-01-19 15:26:34
I have sooooo many useless pages on this site, yeah sometimes I recycle ! :P

Rob reply Replies: 0 || 2014-01-03 12:23:53
i have just listened to an edit of this from a shiny place. i hate edits but this works perfectly. i didnt skip one track!

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 5 || 2014-01-01 03:09:42
*whistles* I'm impressed


Mike2014-01-01 03:16:54
I think this is fake... There's a reason it doesn't appear in a search for Black Hawk Down on this site... ;)


matthew2014-01-01 16:18:00
maybe this is fake but the real complete recording sessions with unused / alternate / unreleased ideas yust arrived before christmas. I'm surprised nobody talks about it because since 2001 after many bootleg versions and so-called 3cd recording sessions, this is the only and first real thing.


Hybrid Soldier2014-01-01 19:42:44
Yes and I'm not gonna add it, cause I'm lazy...


Sam2014-01-01 19:48:33
Yes, then just don't comment it, if you're so lazy. -.-


Poe2014-01-02 05:55:31
Hybrid Soldier, do the cues have real, not-fan-created names?

GerART reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-11 00:00:00
Hi! Please, I really want the theme of Soldiers Back On* the part of the final battle, anybody can say me where I could download this track, please!! ;) Thanks!

Gav reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-26 00:00:00
But theres two alternates of Hunger, where did one of them come from if the other is from a deleted scene?

Im aware its asking a lot but can anyone do a breakdown of each piece and how it was made, e.g.

01. OST track + Dooley Website track
02. OST track
03. Deleted Scene
04. Isolated music from DVD bonus, etc?

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-25 00:00:00
Demos are ripped from the DVD bonus feature that show's how Zimmer went about creating the music. Hunger (Alternative) is ripped from the deleted scene that show's the replaced cue with Josh's voice.

Interestingly enough, there seemed to be two seperate themes as there was suppose to be a rock version of the battle theme and a orchestral version of the battle theme. I'm guessing he merged and edited them for "Tribal War". I think however (if it's still up on youtube) that someone has gotten a hold of the orchestral version of the battle theme but cut as it merges up with 'Tribal War'.

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-24 00:00:00
"- I think there's a cue from movie Avalon, completely different style of music but one of the cues has a similar melody."

I can confrim that, altough it is only a few seconds but yeah someone used Kenji Kawai's masterpiece. I'm not sure but it is the 6th track from this album's first CD.

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-24 00:00:00
The several sources of cues are combined together in a random way. You have sometimes an OST track combined with a song combined with something else...

The sources :
- OST tracks
- 15 minutes from the DVD bonuses, edited here and there in various cues
- Some cues are songs (Ambush is a song by artist Badawi, and isn't called Ambush originally)
- 1 promo cue from Jim Dooley's website (Cavalry - not available anymore), there is an alternate version available at Trevor Morris website.
- 5 or 6 cues from Jeff Rona's website.
- I think there's a cue from movie Avalon, completely different style of music but one of the cues has a similar melody.
- I'm not sure but there were 3 tracks from BHD on an Heitor Pereira's promo CD, don't remember if they are used here...

Gav reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-24 00:00:00
Hey fellas what is the source for this edition? Is it the OST and DVD alone or are there extra sources used to make it (website tracks, etc)?

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-10 00:00:00
@ Ele

Yeah, alot of good track's are on the 3 CD version. One particular favorite is Night Battle - Cavalry. Since it uses 'Tribal War' and a continuation 'Cavalry' from this version.

This version has some edit's from the 3 CD version, though what I would take from this version is 'Soldier's Back On' and 'Hunger (Alterante Version)'. It's a real shame that 'Soldier's Back On' is in mono. If anyone has it in stereo, that could actually complete the main action theme's of Black Hawk Down.

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2009-10-20 00:00:00
@ Ele

Not currently.

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2009-10-20 00:00:00
What is, then? Some of the cues here are mono, is there bootleg with those cues in stereo?

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2009-10-20 00:00:00
@ Ele

The 3 CD version is as close as you will get to the complete score, add some of the new music from this version to the 3 CD version and you will probably have the closest thing to a complete score.

Also, there is no bootleg that has some of the cues in stereo.

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2009-10-20 00:00:00
@Ruthless Are there any really cool tracks in 3 CD version? I see its about 20 mins longer. Is that worth it?

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2009-09-15 00:00:00
I heard this is best complete score for that movie. Is it true?

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-09 00:00:00
Although each bootleg of that score has different track names and I'm not exactly sure about the track you're mentionning... but I think that the instrument you're talking about is an electric cello.

Rick reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-08 00:00:00
Can anyone tell me what kind of instrument there using in the nummer `still` is that a violet
or something else ( the dark sound when it get busy )

julian reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-13 00:00:00
amazing score. I could hear it every day

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-12 00:00:00
So I have had the chance to listen to this version, pretty interesting that there is a couple of new music in here. The sad part is, some of the new music are crap audio. Other parts where there is new music is actually from Jeff Rona's Reel examples

eliseo g....... reply Replies: 0 || 2009-01-26 00:00:00
esta buenisima la peli, la banda sonora perfecta, solo quisiera saver como la bajo este score, es buenisimo yo tengo todas sus bandas sonoras de hans zimmer, pero en normales, quisiera en esta version porfavor - (perdon no se escrivir mucho en ingles lo siento) - okisssssssssssssssssssssssssss.............

SSgt Ray Gibbs reply Replies: 0 || 2008-10-01 00:00:00
Hey guys the movie and soundtrack are both amazing!!! i was just thinking about a certain song too thats not on the soundtrack but i thinks its on the one above #### ... thanks :)

daniel reply Replies: 0 || 2008-09-17 00:00:00
Faboulos movie...unbelivebil...

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-13 00:00:00
Sadly yet another bad quality one with mono tracks. Dunno why it is Hans' scores which suffer from bad boots... LOL

norway guy reply Replies: 0 || 2008-03-07 00:00:00
LOL

i saw your guy talkin about the soundtrack: Soldiers Back On. i cant sat what i think about it, because i havent heard it.

its only the track list here .

L O L !!!!!!!!!! but thanks any way. i think those people working on this site have done a wery good job! i love your work on show us that it in fact si hans zimmer bootlegs, so we could contunue dreaming and hope find one of them, one day ;)
thanks again for all your work on this, it have helped me A LOT !!!!!!!!!!!

fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2007-08-23 00:00:00
enormous

Falconet reply Replies: 0 || 2007-07-25 00:00:00
Hi,the track "Soldiers Back On" sound not good,what a bad! it seems to be a nice one!

Joseph reply Replies: 0 || 2007-03-18 00:00:00
black hoek down the past flim

yvan (france) reply Replies: 0 || 2007-02-28 00:00:00
la chute du faucon noir est un véritable film à suspense

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