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Olive, if you think Brothers In Arms is nothing more than a RCP power anthem, then you're obviously missing something... To me it's one of the most brilliant action tracks of the last few years.Ola team ! <br>Maybe you do know Joe Kramer won't return to score Mission Impossible 6. And no one seems to know who will.<br>So here's my question : any chance to see someone from RC doing this ? <br><br>Thanks for reading me. Keep goin' your good job here, it's appreciated. :)<br>Wow. Pretty solid! It keeps the core track intact and, somehow, adds even more raw power into it. Thanks for sharing!@MrZimmerFan<br><br><Is better because there is variety and orchestration><br><br>It is not because a score is orchestrated that it is automatically superior to one half orchestrated and half electronic. My problem with JL is that it's a small score for a composer with as many facets as Elfman. The music is uninspired and (taking one or another track) ends as it begins, nothing catches yours ears beyond of the romantic moments and of the new interpretations of the themes for the heroes.<br><br>@mpolonest<br><br><I actually love that score, but I think the main issue is Elfman completely ignoring what came before and trying to force the classic themes.><br><br>Elfman had two paths: Ignore everything and do things his way or respect what Zimmer did and maintain the sound of previous films. What did he do? He made an uninspiring hybrid of both.<br><br>@HybridSoldier<br><br><Leagues above, and yet I doubt Ben will be able to write something like "Brothers In Arms" from Mad Max.><br><br>Everyone in RCP knows how to do a power anthem these days.<br><br>@Mephariel<br><br><I would not have gotten a chance to work on blockbuster films like Dunkirk, Blade Runner 2049 without Zimmer's influence.><br><br>Obviously not. It could be in smaller jobs and present some potential for years to come.<br>I think I just sharted myself. Thanks!
I'm surprised to have not seen more discussion of this score; I honestly think it represents some of the best music out of RCP in the past half-decade. Yeah, it still has the Journey to the Line / Time four-chord power anthem thing going on, but outside of those themes you have some really creative material that at times doesn't even feel stylistically RCP, and hell, even those structurally-simplistic themes are unusually well-orchestrated. And there's a real orchestra!Some of you may like this guy's cover of Brothers in Arms! Pretty epic, honestly. <br><br> com/watch?v=LCIY41hopq4This score has improved my mood on more than one occasion. Nancy Meyers needs to make another movie, so Hans can score it. lol.Hello great team of Hans Zimmer,<br><br>I was recently listening to "The Might of Rome" (Gladiator soundtrack) and I am craving to listen the long version of the piece around 2:38 - 2:48 (something like an oriental flute). Does it exist as a standalone composition? Is it inspired from some third party artist, if yes, can you please tell my which one?<br><br>Thanks!@Olive<br><br>Wallfisch's career unquestionably benefited from his involvement with Zimmer. He wouldn't have gotten a chance to work on blockbuster films like Dunkirk, Blade Runner 2049 without Zimmer's influence. Wallfisch is a very talented composer, but let's be honest here, his music doesn't immediately strikes anyone as a big action guy. Having Zimmer's name pushing you helps.
Hybrid, what do you admire more: Black Hawk Down or Tears of the Sun?"Elfman's score is like Whedon, horrendous & out of place."<br><br>Out of place, yes. Horrendous, no.Leagues above, and yet I doubt Ben will ever be able to write something like "Brothers In Arms" from Mad Max.<br><br>Comparing people is kinda useless...<br><br>The only who's right is Hans in the end, he knows when to use one and when to use the other... ;)@Edmund<br>Iím in the same boat. When I watch a movie I normally donít pay attention to the music unless itís really distinctive. As a stand alone listening experience I usually want to get music that fits a mood and can hold my interest throughout. Take Silvestriís Avengers score for example. The big statements of the main theme and some of the action cues are excellent. Unfortunately itís surrounded by generic underscore that slows the album down imo. But then you have TASM2, which constantly has something going on no matter what. I feel like thatís something which does relate to the directors, not so much the talent level of the composers.<br><br>@olive<br>Ben Wallfisch is LEAGUES ahead of JXL as a composer, partly because heís had years of experience in film composing. Hopefully his recent successes give him more high profile projects.<br><br>As for Justice League, I actually love that score, but I think the main issue is Elfman completely ignoring what came before and trying to force in the classic themes. Had he done his own spin on Zimmerís material there would a better connection to the previous ones.Elfman's score is like Whedon, horrendous & out of place.
@Olive: Is better because there is variety and orchestration, and i'm not a purist (i liked BvS, there is more complexity in it than in MoS), but Danny Elfman has more integrity in that score than in that two scores.He did!<br><br>The action material in "Do You Bleed?" is by XL! <br>Wallfisch has shown himself to be a superior composer to XL, let's face it. I do not even see why he's running after Zimmer since he's able to run a career himself.<br><br>@TheZimmerFan <br><br><But the score by Elfman is miles better than MoS and BvS (for those two, BvS is much interesting and better than MoS, which is only good)><br><br><br>The music is less simplistic and may please the purists, but, no, MoS and BvS are better by a small margin than JL by one factor: thematic material and characterization of the movie.  Elfman should have had more freedom to work on the themes he and Williams wrote.<br>It's a half-truth to everyone who makes up the RCP team, unfortunately. <br><br>But I honestly doubt that ANYONE wants to work with XL.<br><br>Snyder worked with him 3 times. 300, BvS and Man of Steel. Sometimes I even get the impression that he's always liked Tom's approach more than Zimmer's approach. See all the percussion and synths of all those scores that are far more present in the Xl field than Zimmer's.Got this today..well not my music type so pass it...

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Kingdom Of Heaven
Label: Sony Classical
Length: 62'12 rating:        4/5
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  1. Burning The Past (2:48)
  2. Crusaders (1:41)
  3. Swordplay (2:01)
  4. A New World (4:21)
  5. To Jerusalem (1:38)
  6. Sibylla (1:49)
  7. Ibelin (2:05)
  8. Rise A Knight (2:43)
  9. The King (5:45)
  10. The Battle Of Kerak (5:36)
  11. Terms (4:29)
  12. Better Man (3:29)
  13. Coronation (3:03)
  14. An Understanding (4:13)
  15. Wall Breached (3:43)
  16. The Pilgrim Road (4:07)
  17. Saladin (4:44)
  18. Path To Heaven (1:38)
  19. Light Of Life (Ibelin Reprise) (2:10)
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Kent ÷berg reply Replies: 5 || 2017-04-25 23:04:51
Zimmer did some additional music on this?

Olive2017-07-31 07:41:51
Zimmer did some additional music on this?

Michael Poleschuck2017-07-31 08:11:35
Zimmer was the original composer on this movie. And Gregson-Williams was the original composer of Madagascar. And then you know, what happened next.

Hybrid Soldier2017-07-31 18:41:58
HZ wrote a few early ideas before leaving the project. One was used by Harry, the very first cue in the film (the guitar opening) is actually HZ...

Oscarilbo2017-07-31 19:21:58
### EDITED ###

You mean this one Hybrid ???

WOW... always loved that part and wondered why wasn't on the Cd. Know it makes more sense.

Hybrid Soldier2017-07-31 19:39:48
This indeed.

Lord Stark reply Replies: 1 || 2016-05-23 15:02:04
In which cues of this release (but also of the recording sessions) was Junkie XL involved?

Hybrid Soldier2016-05-23 22:40:39
Who knows ! He was an intern !

Anonymous reply Replies: 5 || 2014-11-29 20:14:41
Cheap move on Harry's part lifting part of COD4's score (the coup) straight out of here...

Mike2014-11-29 20:21:09
Yeah, not one of his better moments. lol. It worked surprisingly well in COD despite being written for this, though.

Hybrid Soldier2014-11-29 20:23:41
It's in Exodus too... lol

Anonymous2014-11-29 20:28:28
Oh really? What track? :P

Hybrid Soldier2014-11-29 20:29:03
Briefly there's a part of it in Tsunami... lol

Anonymous2014-11-29 20:29:27
Nvm, I see Tsunami has it. It must be a personal favorite of his.

Duderguymannameperson reply Replies: 1 || 2014-11-07 22:11:41
Harry Gregson Williams just posted on Facebook that he wrote some music for Exodus: Gods and Kings. Last I checked Alberto Iglesias was the titled composer. Hybrid, would you know how much Harry contributed to the score?

Hybrid Soldier2014-11-07 22:17:42
Seriously go search the Exodus page on that very site lol...

Yeah he wrote additional music, about 30 min of the score...

Anonymous reply Replies: 3 || 2013-05-14 21:49:49
"Battle of Kerak" sounds like a shady mixture of Prince Caspian and Call of Duty 4. I also hear Gladiator and Black Hawk Down in "Terms". "The King" also sounds identical to "The Battle" from The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe at one point. Interesting.

Mike2013-05-14 21:54:01
Actually, "The Coup" theme from Modern Warfare was lifted directly from "Better Man"!

Edmund Meinerts2013-05-14 22:25:12
Kingdom of Heaven predates a lot of the scores you mentioned there...

Mike2013-05-14 23:20:58
Indeed, Edmund, and it seems like it's been the template for some of his work since.

Drake reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-07 00:00:00
No problem!
and yes I happen to do know where a lot of the unused cues were meant to be:

"Path to Heaven"- not quite sure where it was supposed to play. I think it could be when Tiberias leaves (while him and Balian are examining the dead soldiers from Guy's army)

The end of "An Understanding" plays when Balian is speaking to his soldiers before the wall is breached.

The "Better Man" choral part plays when Saladin's troops are launching fireballs at the city and Balian is walking down a passage seeing all the frightened families.

The end of "Saladin" was meant to play when Balian surrenders the city to Saladin- it was replaced by "Family Feud" (from Blade II)

The Choral part at the Beginning of "Wall Breached" was meant to play in that scene at night when Balian is getting ready for the next day of war and Sybilla is cutting her hair. (the percussion part that comes afterwards was edited in there, but meant to play when Saladin's messenger is arriving, before Guy cuts his throat)-was replaced by "Burning the Past" in the film

but you're right- a lot of this music got cut, witch is a shame because it's really good :(

Drake reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-06 00:00:00
"Coronation" was replaced by Vide Cor Muem
"Rise a Knight" was replaced by the 13th warrior

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-06 00:00:00
Drake: thanks :)
Do you know anything about other unused material - "Wall Breached", "Path to Heaven", end of "Saladin", beginning (choir part) of "Better Man" and "An Understanding" (except the very beginning)?
It`s like at least a half of the official album is missing (and that`s just OST and not the recording sessions).

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-08 00:00:00
Yeah, I think it really is (at least it`s my favourite Harry`s score, together with Chronicles of Narnia, Sinbad and Prince of Persia).

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-07 00:00:00
i'm no expert but from what i can hear, kingdom of heaven is harry's great original score, which he has been using themes from ever since for narnia prince of persia and others

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-07 00:00:00
Has anyone noticed that Harry re-used the exactly same electric cello part from "Better Man" (2:12 - 2:32) in Modern Warfare ("The Coup" 0:33 - 0:53)?
Nevertheless Kingdom of Heaven is a brilliant score! Does anyone know which part of the score was left out from the final cut of the movie (and replaced by Vide Cor Meum + 13th Warrior theme)? Thanks

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-15 00:00:00
I dont believe so.

Klaas reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-15 00:00:00
Is there any difference between the Sony Classical and the Columbia (USA) version?

Cows N' Roses reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-29 00:00:00
Has anyone noticed the Hans Zimmer track in Angels & Demons that was almost exactly like Crusaders? I couldn't believe it when I heard it. By the way, it's not on the album, you need to watch the movie to hear it.

EL FARKH SAID reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-18 00:00:00

EL FARKH SAID reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-18 00:00:00
KINGDOM OF HEAVEAN IHAVE NEVER SEEN A fantastic a film like it

Ruthlessgravity reply Replies: 0 || 2008-11-11 00:00:00
"France, 1184"

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2008-11-10 00:00:00
can u tell me the name of the very first song ( only a guitar I think) played in Kingdom of heaven? Thank u

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2008-10-10 00:00:00
Chanterai por mon corage by Guiot de Dijon

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-07 00:00:00

Bou reply Replies: 0 || 2008-02-21 00:00:00
Andrew : "Chanterai pour mon courage" by the ensemble convivencia ,##########

kenn stewart reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-31 00:00:00
Kingdom of heaven is one of the best soundtracks ever recorded. Absolutely stunning from beginning to end. And like the movie on release ddid not get the praise it deserves. The Directors cut is now a masterpiece and HGW's score is integral to this.

Andrew reply Replies: 0 || 2007-07-30 00:00:00
Does anyone know what is the name of the music played when Godfrey remembers about the mother of Balian?in the director's cut edition.

Jack reply Replies: 0 || 2007-07-23 00:00:00
Does ANYONE know where the choral piece that plays RIGHT after the Squire rams the pick through the prisoner's skull can be found? I have the two disc, the retail AND the 3 disc recording session and I CANNOT find it. If ANYONE knows, please, that is my FAVORITE piece of score from the film, I have to find it.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-02-18 00:00:00
boring, bad harry. where ist hans?

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2006-08-17 00:00:00
German HGWonline:

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2006-08-05 00:00:00
Yay Great thing.
I luv it!

btw: visit
It will rock your arse!!!!

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2006-07-20 00:00:00
Any ideas about the name of solo vocal performers? You know like the one in 'The King' and 'Terms'...?

Uroö reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-13 00:00:00
Very good. I like it very much. It`s like the Gladiator sopundtrack. I like story in the movie and the music is a pefect fitt to it. Very good!

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