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Formality indeed. Complicated ! lol<br><br>You can bet Blake Neely didn't need anyone to "write" those 10 seconds !! lolI always found these credits to be a bit confusing. Klaus Badelt is credited on almost every cue, even when his themes don't appear and another additional composer is credited as well. I thought maybe it was just a formality that Zimmer and Badelt were credited everywhere (I mean, how much could they be involved on a cue like "Welcome to the Caribbean"?), but then "No real ship" and "Sword Fight Pt. 2" have no Badelt for some reason. Does someone know a bit more about this?well the composer confirmed he is working on it to be released very soon<br>"It's funny tho......people always complain how Hollywood plays it safe and how movies don't take chances..........but when a movie with tonal shifts that challenge the viewer and offer something bold shows up, people bitch and complain."<br><br>I didn't think it was possible for a Bay fan of all people to be this insufferably pretentious.<br><br>I thought that was more Snyder fanboy territory.<br><br>But here we are, calling dog-humping, Decepticon testicles, and mommy-on-pot-brownies "challenging the viewer."<br><br>Kudos, man.  Kudos.<br><br>You can hide behind however many fallacies you want.  If "Not to me" and "You do you" didn't give it away early on in this thread, I DIDN'T try to treat my opinions as fact.<br><br>But that doesn't mean I'm going to add a little "IMO" at the end of every goddamn sentence just to coddle you. <br><br>On the flip-side, consistently making appeals to authority and popularity, "B-b-but Spielberg said!", "B-b-but the Forbes poll said!" don't make you objective.<br><br>Y'know, it's funny.  When I listed off better blockbuster examples, you could've very easily just argued against them on the level of the films themselves, and everything would've been fine.<br><br>Sure, you would've just claimed you can't see the action at night sooner, which is rich when you praise the film series that puts the subjects of its action scenes OUT OF FOCUS every other shot, but hey, that's just honest opinions versus honest opinions.<br><br>But using two belated half-assed sequels from different, less talented directors that lost most of the appeal of the first movies, as some sorta litmus test for how well-liked the first movies were, is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever heard.  That's not objectivity, that's not even confusing correlation with causation, that's saying 1+2=4.<br><br>That's the real joke here.  Instead of accepting that your love of Bay is nothing more than a opinion, just as my claim that he misses the point of what makes action movies fun is, you turn into an overly-defensive nut, desperately quoting every opinion piece under the sun to pretend your opinion is some statistically-backed fact.  I've seen you do this every time someone talks shit about Bay around here.  It's psychotic.<br><br>Bad movies make money.  Everyone knows that, and everyone knows that's not proof of quality.  But if that's the kinda road you wanna go down, I guess movies like Avatar, The Force Awakens, or all the Avengers movies, are "objectively" better movies in every conceivable way than anything Bay has made in his entire career.  I mean, CLEARLY those films must have a bolder style and push more boundaries.<br><br>Why else would more people watch and rewatch them, right?<br><br>Reasonable causation is for those goshdarn geek journos.<br><br>And by the way, The Last Knight lost money.  Period.  Almost 100M according to Paramount themselves.<br><br>That's not just a domestic bomb, that's a bomb altogether.<br><br>Have a nice day.Siding with the guy that lied through his teeth to feign objectivity seems like a bad call.<br>==================<br><br>Kinda ironic, coming from you....but I'll take it as a compliment. Thank you! <br><br>And yes, he sides with me because what I say is common sense. For whatever reason, you have these strong negative feelings toward Bay films and those feelings blind you to some pretty obvious truths. <br><br>Have to say tho - for a 'hater' you sure know A LOT about him, his style and his movies. <br><br>Just admit it - you are a huge Bay fan but you just want to score some points with the snobbish internet crowd. <br><br><br><br>============<br>In any case, modern Bay and Snyder don't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Fury Road.<br>============<br><br>Oh, you're one of THOSE people......"Fury Roaaaaaaaaad is DA BEST FILM EVAAAAAAAA".<br><br>Let me guess: you also think that Nolan is the greatest director/person of all time. On par with Jesus himself. <br><br><br><br>==========<br>What DOES matter is scripts with razor focus, sharp pacing, witty and/or charming humor (if it wants humor, that is), and characters likable enough to carry us through the narrative.<br>==========<br><br>Which is what Transformers 1 is. <br><br>Which is why the movie connected with audiences. It was - at its heart - a story about a boy and his car. Even the most jaded critics enjoyed that aspect.<br><br><br>=============<br>And again, the likes of Pacific Rim, or 300, or the first Pirates of the Caribbean, or the first Kingsmen, or John Wick, or most Guy Ritchie films, or the better fourth of superhero films, illustrate that Bay and Snyder have no excuse.<br>=============<br><br>Excuse? For what?<br><br>My friend, you do realize that Bay in particular is one of the most powerful and successful filmmakers of all time, right? He is the second highest-grossing director of all time (domestically), only behind Spielberg. You can dismiss box office success all you want but you don't get to where Bay is if you're not good at your job. <br><br>Snyder is nowhere near Bay, in terms of success and influence. Personally, I don't care much about him. <br><br><br>P.S. Guy Ritchie (and Edgar Wright) are huge Bay fans. Ask yourself why. <br><br><br>===============<br>They just aren't very good filmmakers on the whole<br>===============<br><br>Your opinion.<br><br>I disagree.
Bay walks the lines between being self-serious and comical, but his films aren't well=written enough to serve the former, or witty enough to serve the latter, and the end-result is droll and annoying.<br>====================<br><br>You sure you're not a "writer" for one of those ridiculous geek sites like Collider, Screen Rant or Slash Film? Because you sound a lot like one of those "beloved" writers. <br><br>Anyway......Yes, Bay's movies always walk that line but whether that works or not is........Yes! a matter of opinion. For me, Pain and Gain is one of the best modern satires while for you it is - I'm guessing - "droll and annoying".<br><br>It's funny tho......people always complain how Hollywood plays it safe and how movies don't take chances..........but when a movie with tonal shifts that challenge the viewer and offer something bold shows up, people bitch and complain. <br><br>Some of you folks are indeed very hard to please. <br><br><br>===============<br>The first POTC earns it. The Bad Boys 2 doesn't. Infinity War earns it. TF 1/2/3/4/5 doesn't.<br>==============<br><br>Okay, now that statement is the best joke of the year! Thank you for the good laugh! Really! Oh, and I've definitely argued with you before, my friend. You are clearly one of those ten Bay haters from the IMDb forums who claim to hate everything the man does, yet they have seen EVERYTHING he had done. Why is that, I wonder?<br><br><br>===========<br>Fitting, as Synder and Bay are cut from a very similar cloth. Difference is, unless we're talking Man of Steel, I'd sooner rely on Snyder for consistently good action sequences<br>===========<br><br>Well, I would trust Spielberg on this. Because it was Spielberg who said, and I quote: "Michael (Bay) is one of the greatest action directors. He has the best eye in Hollywood." Spielberg works with a lot of directors. But he never said anything like that about any other director. So clearly he means what he says about Bay. And....you know......unlike most people, Speilberg actually knows a thing or two about filmmaking. <br><br><br>================<br>300 didn't try to start a franchise. It was a one-off adaptation of a graphic novel in the same vein as Sin City, and was successful. They tried to make a cash-grab sequel almost a decade later, without Snyder, and it failed. That's hardly the first film's fault.<br>================<br><br>It is a clear proof that people weren't that excited to visit this world again. And mind you, that happened with the first sequel! Talk about a one-time thing, huh?<br><br>At the same time, Bay made FOUR Transformers movies - with different casts - before there were any signs of audience fatigue. <br><br>That speaks for itself.<br><br>===========<br>Pacific Rim suffered from lackluster marketing, and yet still managed to turn a profit and attract a strong following.<br>==========<br><br>Excuses, excuses, excuses.....So you can display all the excuses in the world for Pac Rim but when it comes to Transformers, you don't accept anything. <br><br>Double standard much?<br><br>P.S. That "strong following" is on the internet. The same following that was supposed to make Scott Pillgrim a huge hit. Everyone knows that internet hype is not real-world hype. I know very well the type of people who act as if Pac Rim is the best thing since sliced bread. Total geeks who are angry that Transformers is much more popular and much more successful than Del Toro's "let's shoot all the robot fights in pitch black so audiences can't see shit" movie.  <br><br>Also, let's not pretend that Pac Rim is a universally beloved film. You know very well that there are A LOT of detractors as well. That's what you get when people can't tell what's going on during the movie because you shot it all at night. Just like that Godzilla movie. <br><br><br>============<br>Versus something like Transformers, which has piggybacked on an established IP, relentless marketing campaigns and tie-ins, and a fairly consistent release schedule. And even then, recycling the same bullshit eventually took its toll.<br>============<br><br><br>Wrong.<br><br>Do you read Forbes? You should. Because it's a place where objective people write. It ain't a stupid militant film geek site like Ain't it Cool News or Screen Rant.<br><br>Forbes published multiple articles explaining in great detail why the Transformers movies were successful EXACTLY because they were directed by Bay. Whether you like it or not, my friend, Bay is a brand. He is an auteur. There were multiple polls before the first two Transformers movies and Bay being the director was one of the main reasons for people to watch the movies. <br><br>But I guess you missed all of that, huh?<br><br>How convenient.<br><br><br>==============<br>Friendly reminder that AoE also relied on China (more pathetically then even Pacific Rim did) to compensate for diminishing domestic returns. To say nothing of TLK outright bombing.<br>==============<br><br>First: according to ACTUAL real data, the only TF movie that was saved by China is.......Bumblebee! Yeah, you better believe it. Go to Deadline and Forbes and read it for yourself.<br><br>Second: TLK bombed domestically, yes. <br>But not internationally. No one with actual knowledge of the situation refers to that movie as an international "bomb". Besides, there were 4 super successful TF movies before TLK. So Bay got nothing to prove. He already created one of the biggfest film franchises in history. <br><br>How many directors can say that?<br><br><br><br>==================<br>I know you like debunking Bay naysayers with "facts and logic," but it helps to not be grossly disingenuous while doing it<br>==================<br><br><br>Goes both ways, my friend. But unlike most naysayers, I don't treat my own personal opinions as facts. And if I'm being "disingenuous" then I don't even know what to say about some Bay haters who refuse to accept even the most obvious facts and truths.nopeYou realize there is a very easy and free method to get the music from that site, dont you?Random thought but this got me thinking about Zanelli's history with fantasy.<br><br>Whatever happened to his score for Delgo?  I know it's been accused of being super derivative of his other works anyways but still, it's weird to see a RCP score just drop off the face of the Earth like that.There's just something really charming about seeing a prototype for a famous future theme showing up in an old score.<br><br>Or in PotC's case, SCORES.
The only ones I've seen properly confirmed are the cues Badelt had listed on his website. The issue with everything else is that there's certain themes that's been associated with certain people, but aren't credited for every appearance. Not to mention that I've never really seen much official credits elsewhere, so I take any that I've seen with a grain of salt.This comment was made before that was properly confirmed, so he was likely going to do it solo at the time.I thought Hans was collaborating with Faltermayer For Top Gun 2From both ASCAP and GEMACan these be accessed anywhere?
The dream is collapsing... :oHoly f*ck, just listened to "Too Many Notes..." and its containing pirates theme itself from Pirates of the caribbean'No Good About Goodbye' was never the intended song for QOS. It was composed after the film was completed using thematic material from the film for Shirley Bassey to perform on her, David Arnold produced album, 'The Performance'Those files are just sitting there.<br><br>Undownloadable.<br><br>Taunting me.@Ds<br>Siding with the guy that lied through his teeth to feign objectivity seems like a bad call.<br><br>In any case, modern Bay and Snyder don't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Fury Road.<br><br>I already discussed 300 and Pacific Rim.  Clearly deep scripts aren't what I'm aiming for here when I talk about good blockbusters.<br><br>What DOES matter is scripts with razor focus, sharp pacing, witty and/or charming humor (if it wants humor, that is), and characters likable enough to carry us through the narrative.<br><br>300's a great example of this, though unfortunately a lot of Snyder's other work isn't, and Bay is close behind.  Their films get bogged with way too much obnoxious bullshit to make the odd sequence worth it.<br><br>The Scorponok sequence from TF1, the warehouse fight from BvS, that's real standout stuff.  Stuff that loses a lot of its luster when surrounded by two-and-a-half, or god forbid THREE, hours of self-serious pretense, lazy humor, and/or annoying characters.<br><br>And again, the likes of Pacific Rim, or 300, or the first Pirates of the Caribbean, or the first Kingsmen, or John Wick, or most Guy Ritchie films, or the better fourth of superhero films, illustrate that Bay and Snyder have no excuse.<br><br>They just aren't very good filmmakers on the whole, and need to learn to consolidate their efforts into something that brings out their best and subdues their worst.  Snyder in particular has SERIOUSLY misjudged where his talent is lately.
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The Lion King (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 75'42
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  1. Circle Of Life (3:59)
  2. Scar's Dinner (2:09)
  3. What Am I Going To Do? - Sunrise At Pride Rock (3:02)
  4. Hyenas In The Prideland - Our Little Secret (3:58)
  5. I Just Can't Wait To Be King (2:50)
  6. Elephant Graveyard (4:46)
  7. Father's Footsteps (2:15)
  8. Be Prepared (3:40)
  9. The Trap (0:48)
  10. Stampede (3:24)
  11. Mufasa's Death (3:26)
  12. As Good As Dead (Part 1) (1:39)
  13. As Good As Dead (Part 2) (0:31)
  14. Hakuna Matata (3:33)
  15. Scar & Zazu - What Did You Say? (1:08)
  16. Under The Stars - Rafiki (2:48)
  17. Nala Attacks (4:15)
  18. Can You Feel The Love Tonight (2:57)
  19. Nala & Simba (4:45)
  20. Mufasa's Ghost (3:06)
  21. Homeward Bound (2:28)
  22. Simba & Nala Move In - King Of The Priderock (11:40)
  23. Mufasa's Death (Alternate) (2:35)
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Caephalo trecca reply Replies: 0 || 2006-04-15 00:00:00
I have a number of scores/promos/bootlegs, but NOTHING can ever top Battle of Pride Rock!!!!

seizetsu reply Replies: 0 || 2006-03-26 00:00:00
YES!! I found it and am downloading/listening right now. This is even so much better than I remember it to be from the movie. Best score EVER!

zak reply Replies: 0 || 2006-03-24 00:00:00
What do you mean "--unfair"--? It's not like anyone here has ever refused to help you find the score, so calling people unfair seems a little exaggerated to me.

Apart from that, this score is a bootleg and hence illegal, so people are naturally wary of to whom they give assistance.

Adi reply Replies: 0 || 2006-03-21 00:00:00
Ok, so i cannot blame the recordingartist/company etc... but for all you folks who have the score, this is really unfair of you. Can someone be an angel and tell me where i can find the score?

Caephalo Trecca reply Replies: 0 || 2006-03-18 00:00:00
I recently edited the mp3s in Goldwave to make the mono's sound more stereo. Sounds supercool now!!

Lucy reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-14 00:00:00
Nice to see some people here. Actually I must thank the crew from Hans-Zimmer.com for the information about the OST. Because of that a japanese fan were impressed that I really found this. Well, as reward he bought me the Soundtrack to an Anime named "--The Dog of Flanders"-- (not the american RL-Movie, the japanese Animation), actually it's a Movie released in America by Pioneer and is one of the strongest Soundtracks I ever heared.

Vastatosaurus Rex reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-29 00:00:00
Best music ever for a Disney film. One of Hans' finest works. Simply amazing!

tweak1 reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-25 00:00:00
In fact "--To Die For"-- plays only during the Zazu Sings scene. Uncle Scar was talking about the reprise of the music which pays in the "--Elephant Graveyard"-- track. Listen carefully.

Caephalo Trecca reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-24 00:00:00
Nice one Uncle Scar but here are a few more facts.
A part of "--Hyenas"-- plays when Scar fiddles with the mouse in the beginning, "--To Die For"-- can also be heard in the scene where Zazu sings (Scar's cave), and "--A New Era/Bowling For Buzzards"-- does sound similar but is NOT from the scene where Scar slaps Sarabi. It is from the scene where Scar announces the death of Mufasa to the pride. The slapping music is heard in "--The Return"-- itself.

And yes, Alternates 3 and 4 are the official CD "--This Land"-- and "--Under The Stars"-- tracks. Cheers! :-)

Uncle Scar reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-23 00:00:00
There's been less people clamoring for the links of the expanded score.

Looks like the link has spread. :D

Uncle Scar reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-22 00:00:00
Oh, sorry. I must've been tired. XD

This is how I've named it:

1. Circle of Life (obviously, the Disney CoL)
2. Life Isn't Fair, Is it? (the sound that plays after Scar leaves Simba in the gorge. You know... the music that plays while camera pans from the gorge to the herd)
3. The Once and Future King (from the rain to the part where Mufasa teaches Simba on the morning in the Pride Rock)
4. Plotting (Scar plants his evil plan on Simba, Simba tells Nala about the graveyard)
5. The Elephant Graveyard (the elephant graveyard, includes the actual chase)
6. King of the Past (Mufasa scolds Simba, then the dramatic part, my fave, btw)
7. Hyenas (can't remember which part this plays)
8. To Die For (this must be wrong. it's the music just before the hyenas chase Simba and Nala)
9. What Have You Done (the stampede music)
10. Alternate 1 (after the stampede)
11. A New Era / Bowling for Buzzards (scene where Scar slaps Sarabi)
12. Under the Stars (Simba et al talk about the stars)
13. Hunting (Nala hunts Pumbaa)
14. Alternate 2 (It's Disney's CYFtLT!! I feel this one is REALLY wrong)
15. An Argument (Rafiki and Simba talk, including Mufasa's ghost music)
16. This is My Home (Simba returns to Pride Lands, includes busa music)
17. The Return (everything in the climax)
18. Alternate 3 (Mufasa's ghost, then the part where Simba tells Rafiki "--I'm going back!"--)
19. Alternate 4 (again, Rafiki + Simba talk, Simba follows Rafiki through that thick forest to the lake where Mufasa's ghost lies)
20. On Our Side, Simba Awakens (same as the mp3 extract on this website)
21. Stampede (Be Prepared! sooo wrong)


Maybe you can post the right way it should be renamed? I'm confused with your explanation. :S

THANKS IN ADVANCE!

the real Caephalo Trecca reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-19 00:00:00
There's no track like "--alternate 1"-- it is just the renamed version of "--what have you done..."-- And don't imitate my name! ---)

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Caephalo Trecca reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-16 00:00:00
Thanks a lot!!!

So that means Alternate 1 is really missing?

Caephalo Trecca reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-15 00:00:00
The real "--What Have You Done"-- is contained in the Alternate 1 track, the real "--Be Prepared"-- in the Stampede track, and the real "--Stampede"-- in the What Have You Done track. Hope that helps you! Happy renaming ---)

Uncle Scar reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-14 00:00:00
Kirsten,

Wow, thanks. What does "--What Have You Done?"-- sound like?

*renames the songs*

Kirsten reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-13 00:00:00
Uncle Scar -
Just found it myself, and the one they link to as "--What Have You Done?"-- seems to actually be "--Stampede."-- So I think we're actually missing "--What Have You Done?"-- (based on the descriptions above)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-13 00:00:00
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Uncle Scar reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-12 00:00:00
Kate,

Found the site with the hefty loads of TLK soundtracks, have you? I'm really wondering about their link on track 9 (stampede) because they've linked it to Be Prepared!
But I wanted it anyways. :)

Listening to the soundtrack right now. One more song and I've gotten it complete. One link there is broken. :(

Uncle Scar reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-12 00:00:00
No, wait, when I checked Stampede, it worked. Weird. :/

And that wrongfully linked song to Be Prepared was track 8.

*listens to expanded score*

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-11 00:00:00
LMAO at Jackie Chan!

Jesse Stipek reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-11 00:00:00
NorthLion -

Email me at ######

Kate reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-10 00:00:00
The site is not english, it is hard to find but with patience you will find it. It's really about hunting, patience and the reward of finding the CD. --3 With patience everything comes in time.

feather reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-10 00:00:00
I wanna know that if the 16th song in this disk has a name other than <--alternate 2>--, and if there is more info about this song. Thanks~

RayOfHope reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-10 00:00:00
Oi I found a copy of this score on eBay and bought it for $21.50!!! The score is simply awesome! I'm lovin' it! :D

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-10 00:00:00
Oh wow. you bought it off Ebay? :O
It's actually available for free if you know where to look.
Grats, regardless, enjoy the soundtrack ^^

Jackie Chan reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-10 00:00:00
I endorse this product and allow my support to be used in any advertisements for it.

NorthLion reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-06 00:00:00
Where can I get this track!? I need it! I'm at ######

t-rexy reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-03 00:00:00
Agreed :-)

Caephalo Trecca reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-02 00:00:00
This version is still the best, I agree, lax ---) And yes, happy new year, all fellow Lion King and Hans Zimmer fans! Best wishes to you and your family and friends and may 2006 be a great year for y'all!

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