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what the hell is Quaker steak and lube????I disagree on Catwoman. I love Zimmer's theme and I thought it is one of his most underrated themes.Loved the new tracks!<br><br>Hans & Chris really did something special.<br><br>I enjoyed the Tenet score, but honestly Ludwig's work doesn't compare to Zimmer's. I just hope they work together again instead of Chris choosing Ludwig as his main collaborator from now on.Agreed.<br><br>I don’t know, TDKR feels a little oppressive to me in comparison with BB and TDK , probably as a result of Nolan’s musical tastes veering away from symphonic to more abstract. Reading the new book on Nolan gives me the impression that he has a very similar approach to his music as he does his filmmaking. With that said though, TDKR is still a solid conclusion to the franchise. Bane’s theme is excellent and the culmination of the various “Bat-Themes” do feel well earned. Catwoman’s theme is solid, but for some reason is dropped from most of the movie in favor of the repeating two-note phrase.<br><br>@Moggyman<br>Honestly I feel as if JNH’s work on the first two Hunger Games sequels showed a strong improvement in writing and theme building. The last score was a bit too much of a pastiche, but orchestrally a stronger fit than the first one. And “Crimes of Grindelwald” is easily one of the best sequel scores in the past few years (alongside Star Wars and HTTYD). Unfortunately we still don’t have a good album situation for that though. -_-Counterpoint: I liked Crimes of Grindelwald more than the first Fantastic Beasts. And forget Hanging Tree - "Air Raid Drill" from the first and "Sewer Attack" from the second Mockingjay are the best cues from that series. Plus, JNH honestly hasn't worked on that many sequels so we don't really have enough to go on here. <br><br>I think having JNH on board for Catwoman would have done wonders for this score. Hans' theme is okay, but feels like a bit of an afterthought compared to Bane.
TDK & TDKR have amazing theme suites.<br><br>But as for the scores in film, they don't even get close to Batman Begins !I like Tom but idk he's gone downhill in my book. Alita was boring, i was over the moon excited for Terminator cause that was a perfect mix and it was disappointed big time. I'd love to hear Steve Jablonsky tackle that and get back to being as great as he used to, he has been phoning it in big time latelyOk, before I eat my words, JNH did create the Hanging Tree in Mockingjay p1 which was good, but nothing else other than that in the sequels.For being the so called "weakest", it's very good. And if you think that Bane's theme is repetitive, I would say the same about the Joker's theme in TDK (to me they are both good though). <br><br>Now in all fairness, JNH could have probably added good material to the score since he's a genius, but I personally think he doesn't do well on sequels. Sure, in TDK he gave harvey dent a theme that resonated with his character (but was similar to material already used in BB). Yet, if you look at his work in the hunger games, its seems to me that he couldn't bring something both new and compelling to the sequels as he did in the first movie. I will agree with you that Batman Begins has the best music of the series though.After re-listening to this one, it's clearly the weakest of the trilogy. Of course it's not bad, the new themes are pretty good (though I think Bane's theme is a bit too repetitive and dry at times), there's still emotional moments, but JNH's absence really left a hole in this score.<br><br>I get to an extent that's the point, that all of Bruce's potential for a happy life is gone, but even the emotional tracks to me have nowhere near the emotional resonance that JNH's themes brought to the films. <br><br>"Come With Me" is the best example, where the slow emotional Selina Kyle chords just don't leave much of an impact. Definitely could have used JNH's "Courthouse Pt. 1" or the main theme from "Bruce Left For Dead" to emphasize Bruce's giving up of a quiet life. <br><br>Of course I still appreciate the way the 2 note motif is developed into a theme of its own, as well as the score as a whole, but then you get tracks like "Many Forms of Immortality" which just emphasize how much more effective the thematic work in Batman Begins was.
It could also be Tom, who worked on Run All Night, and is already an established DC composer<br>Either way I'll be happyI lowkey think James is gonna score the Black Adam movie. it's the same director from Jungle Cruise so I'm sure he'll be brought along for itsameNo no, it's just a fake rumor. I was just responding to that MusoPT guy who made it sound like it's totally inconceivable that Balfe could ever be replaced.Wait!<br>So has Balfe been replaced due to having other projects?<br>I thought it had been completed?
Why was there the change of composers?...wouldn't being really busy be an argument *for* him possibly being replaced? When you're signed on to 10 movies and release schedules are being constantly pushed around because nobody has a clue when theaters are going to open again, you shouldn't be surprised if eventually you might run into some conflicts.Jackman is not replacing Balfe! <br>Balfe is the most busiest composer at the moment so he isn’t going to get replaced last minute!!!!!Thank you for your replies. On IMDB she is listed.Alright, after re-listening to the score, I've made a few educated guesses of what the additional composers did, based on what we know about the score and their previous work. Note that none of this is confirmed by Hybrid, just my opinion.<br><br>Lorne Balfe: Seems to practically be a co-composer here. I hear a lot of him in this score. It seems he did Invasion (as he's known for contributing trailer music to films he works on) seemingly the suites "Brooding", "Deciphering the Signal", "Battle", and the one we know he cowrote, "Journey Suite". Based on this here's my guess as to what he contributed. <br><br>Soccent Attack - Sounds like his style, probably him arranging AllSpark and Decepticon material. <br><br>Keller's Briefing - Arrangement of "Deciphering the Signal"<br><br>Deciphering the Signal - Obviously another arrangement of "Deciphering the Signal" with Batman Begins-like action at the end.<br><br>Sam's Pink Bike Ride (Part 2) - Sounds like an arrangement of "Brooding" material. <br><br>(Possibly?) Are You LadiesMan217? - Some arrangement of "Brooding" and "Journey Suite" material, although hard to say whether the theme at 1:10 is Steve's or Lorne's. Could be Steve arranging Lorne material, as it sounds more Jablonsky-esque to me. <br><br>Autobots to the Rescue - Could be Steve imitating Batman Begins style, but sounds far too Lorne for me to not consider it a co-written track. <br><br>Sector 7 Chase - Part 1 sounds more Jablonsky than Lorne, but there's no question to me that part 2 has a lot of Balfe in there. <br><br>Where Is My Car? - Batman Begins-like again, probably Lorne solo, or Lorne and Steve<br><br>Decepticons Mobilize (Part 2) - Arrangement of "Brooding"<br><br>Freeway Fight - Battle version of Decepticon theme from "Brooding"<br><br>Stumble Bumble (Part 1) & (Part 2 Alternate) - Arrangement of "Journey Suite", second part not used in the film sounds like Steve & Lorne Combo to me. Film version of part 2 sounds pure Steve to me. <br><br>You're A Soldier Now (Parts 1 & 3) - Lorne being heavily involved in the final battle is known, and Parts 1 and 3 have arrangements of Lorne material. I'm also fairly certain that Lorne wrote the Optimus vs Megatron theme from Part 3 and "Optimus vs Megatron".<br><br>Optimus vs Megatron - Finale of theme introduced in "You're A Soldier Now (Part 3)" as well as the "Journey / AllSpark" theme which could be Lorne's or Steve's. <br><br>Trevor Morris: I can infer from his work on Pirates 2, The Island, and the one track we know he worked on. <br><br>Soldiers Arrive - Not sure why, but I've always assumed this military theme was Morris'.<br><br>Arctic 1897 - Dark theme that reminds me a lot of his work from Pirates 2. <br><br>Scorponok - Known fact that he co-wrote this. <br><br>Hoover Dam - Arrangement of military theme<br><br>Transforming -  Same theme from Arctic 1897<br><br>Sam on the Roof (Part 2) - Arrangement of theme from Scorponok, though could be Steve or Lorne arranging it.<br><br>Optimus vs Megatron - A slight hint to the Military theme when they begin attacking Blackout, and Scorponok theme reprisal, once again could be Steve or Lorne arranging these themes. <br><br>Creeper Suite / A Call to Arms (Unused) - Original music for Optimus' Epilogue, contains arrangement of military theme. <br><br>Jay Flood: Can be inferred from his work on Transformers: The Game, his overall more orchestral writing, and his contributions to Nightmare on Elm Street, Sims 3, and Desperate Housewives. <br><br>Camaro on the Run - Definitely has a TF: The Game sound to it overall. As well as a bit of Thomas Newman-esque music. <br><br>Witwicky (Parts 1-3) - Definitely some of his style here along with Steve's overall Desperate Housewives-esque music. <br><br>Decepticons 2 Suite / Frenzy - The suspenseful strings make me think of Flood's Nightmare on Elm Street work, and the brass writing seems more characteristic of him than Jablonsky to me, though it was still probably a co-written suite. <br><br>Tense Action Suite - Once again reminds me of Flood's Nightmare suspenseful string writing, probably at least co-composed with Jablonsky. <br><br>Clay Duncan - I can guess somewhat based on his contributions to "The Island" but otherwise I don't know much about him so I'm not sure about any of the inferences I'm about the make. <br><br>Angry Camaro - This sort of drone music sounds like it could be him as his contributions were very electronic in The Island.<br><br>Bumblebee vs Barricade - Strange electronics and sounds plus more minimalist writing make me think Duncan. <br><br>Tow Truck Charge - Definitely has The Island's sound. Could be Trevor Morris too. <br><br>TJ Lindgreen: I know so little about his style except he works with Elfman and did additional music for TF: The Game so not much I can say for what he did. <br><br>Belly Shot(?) - The ethereal choir style sounds somewhat like TF: The Game's score and Elfman's choir. <br><br>Not to Hear That(?) - Maybe he composed this motif for Mikaela that also appeared in "Belly Shot". <br><br>Surreal Mikaela(?) - Once again I'm hoping the specific choir sound is part of his style. <br><br>Anything I didn't mention is a track I'm assuming is all Jablonsky. Please note that I'm not trying to take away from Steve's work on this score, and that for most of these track I'm assuming Steve had some involvement in as well, I'm just speculating for fun because I've always wanted to know who did what on this score.
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The Promise
Label: Superb Records
Length: 73'44
HZimmer.com rating:        4/5
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  1. Freedom Of The Wa (2:40)
  2. Wuji - Main Theme (3:45)
  3. Love Theme (2:13)
  4. Kunlun, The Slave (1:48)
  5. Qingcheng, The Princess (1:22)
  6. Guangming, The General (1:07)
  7. Wuhuan, The Duke (1:53)
  8. Princess Kite (5:03)
  9. The Promise (5:22)
  10. Snow Country (4:32)
  11. The Robe (8:04)
  12. Save The King (4:00)
  13. Guilang, The Assassin (2:24)
  14. Saving a Princess (3:17)
  15. Feather Fight (2:04)
  16. Waterfall (2:44)
  17. Stampede (4:45)
  18. Come Back (4:28)
  19. Birdcage (1:53)
  20. Wuhuan's Plan (10:20)
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Anonymous reply Replies: 3 || 2013-03-08 18:05:48
Recording Sessions
Tracklist:

01 - 1m1 The Tree
02 - 1m10 New Master
03 - 1m2 Qingcheng Runs
04 - 1m4 The Deal
05 - 1m7 Fanfare
06 - 1m8 Stampede
07 - 1m9 Battle
08 - 2m12 forest Prophecy
09 - 2m14 Bitter Tears
10 - 2m15 Assassinating the Gene
11 - 2m16 Kunlun's Ride
12 - 2m17-18 Saving a Princess
13 - 2m19-20 Waterfall
14 - 2m21 Birdcage
15 - 3m23 kunlun to the Rescue
16 - 3m25 Princess Kite
17 - 3m26 Feather Fight
18 - 3m27 Superball
19 - 3m28 Already Fallen
20 - 3m29 Making Beds
21 - 4m31 Princess Leaves
22 - 4m32 Snow Country
23 - 4m33 Cherry Blossom
24 - 4m34 Let Me Take You There
25 - 5m37 Playful Love
26 - 5m38-39 Children Without Pa
27 - 5m41 Kunlun and Qingcheng
28 - 5m44 General Sees Qingcheng
29 - 5m45 Where is the Armor
30 - 5m46 Room of Screens
31 - 6m49 Dancing Columns
32 - 6m50 Slave Speech
33 - 6m52 Just a Flesh Wound
34 - 6m53 Wuhuan's story
35 - 7m55 The End


...2013-03-08 19:26:12
So now it has leaked...


tim2013-03-08 20:12:20
leaked? it has been on klaus website for months... ^^


JJ2013-03-09 07:59:56
Better call it selections from the recording sessions. I can tell that compared to the OST alone, this is missing a good number of cues.

Macejko reply Replies: 5 || 2013-01-27 22:45:54
Great score indeed. Does anyone know of an another Badelt's soundtrack, which has similar qualities?


HGW42013-01-27 23:00:38
The Time Machine. My favorite!


Edmund Meinerts2013-01-27 23:09:51
The Time Machine seconded. It has a lot of temp track love in it but it's a pretty fantastic score nonetheless. Other than that if you can find Solomon Kane, it's along similar grand, sweeping lines, though the themes aren't quite as lyrical.


Prott2013-01-28 01:01:00
Or K-19. That's also a wonderful and emotional score.


Edmund Meinerts2013-01-28 13:26:19
K-19's theme is a great one. The score itself is a little repetitive but worth seeking out. Also, if you can get your hands on the promo to TMNT then do at all costs! Otherwise he's got a bunch of French scores available for free on his website, most of them aren't that great, rom-com type stuff (but hell, they're legally free so who's to complain?). One of them, his thriller score A Bout Portant (Point Blank), is pretty solid with one great action cue ("Subway Foot Chase"). His theme from Poseidon is pretty good but the rest of the score is dull; same with Ultraviolet, as long as you don't mind the temp-track love for Spider-Man! Equilibrium has some fun moments too; it's probably the closest Badelt ever got to writing a classic mid-90s MV action score. Ned Kelly is more laid back and lyrical but quite pretty.

There, that ought to give you enough to chew on for a while. ;)


Macejko2013-01-28 23:00:28
Thanks guys, I'll definitely give those a shot :)

Phi B reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-30 18:08:26
amazing score...

many thank's to Klaus Badelt

me reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-21 00:00:00
This is one of Badelt's best scores, if not his best. His use of cultural instruments and influences is seamlessly integrated into the score w/ excellent precision. It does not match fellow MediaVentures comrade Hans Zimmer's "The Last Samurai", but is nonetheless a fantastic score. "The Promise" fits very nicely beside "The Time Machine" and "K-19" in my collection of Badelt scores. Keep it up Klaus!

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-21 00:00:00
Second favorite score ever. Last Samurai still no.1 for me. Princess Kite is just perfect...starts with solo violin and ends with solo violin. I too wish there was an expanded release.

aaa reply Replies: 0 || 2008-02-09 00:00:00
aaaaa

Slither reply Replies: 0 || 2007-12-04 00:00:00
The promise is without a dought Badelts best score to date, he was really inspired during his stay in China that he really came out of the experience with a score which tops even Zimmers latest offerings. I cant wait to see a complete release of the promise score, because i have seen the film and there are a lot of great cues missing from the album, one in which features in the trailer

O´Maly reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Sorry for my comment, you are right Victor!!!

Hans is also one of the best!!!

It´s only sometimes I get mad when I see that the Hans Zimmer Fans vote intent bad for Klaus Badelt CDs!!!

Look at the Promise Votes and you´ll now what i mean!!! Such a wonderful Score can´t be so badley rated with only 67% !!!

Victor reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-04 00:00:00
By the way, of course it is more powerful and "real" and orchestral soundtrack, but it does depend of production, not just the composer!! It is far more expensive to pay for the whole group of musicians plus the composer than just the composer!!! Has anybody thought of how real could have been a Gladiator or Pearl Harbor soundtracks with a full orchestra?

Victor reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-04 00:00:00
I do not agree with the opinions that say Klaus is better than Hans, whose Last Samurai or King Arthur soundtracks are as good as The Promise one. Hans has created some of the best epic and action film music ever.Why are you so unfair with this genius who was also Klaus' and so many other's inspiration? I do think they both are among the best in the actual scene and probaly are creating the most beautiful soundtracks of the moment. It is a stupid debate.

King Barry reply Replies: 0 || 2006-12-30 00:00:00
wow amazing!!!!

O´Maly reply Replies: 0 || 2006-12-28 00:00:00
I allways was an Hans Zimmer Fan, but since The Promise I know, Klaus Badelt is so much better!!!
He is the one who can make a score lyric wihtout an stupid Synthesizer!!!
Now I´m a huge Klaus Badelt Fan he is so talented and gorgeous!!! You´ll see, in the near future he will be famous as Zimmer ,John Williams or Jerry Goldsmith!!!
Just wait for Rescue Dawn and Turtles, they sure will be superb like every Klaus Badelt Score!!!

forget Zimmer, Klaus Badelt blows you away!!!

Loren reply Replies: 0 || 2006-12-22 00:00:00
Freedom of the Wa is just impossible to describe... and the entire score has made me look twice...no, three times... at Klaus Badelt.

Danny chang reply Replies: 0 || 2006-11-21 00:00:00
best score ever, forget Hans, Klaus rules!

music dreamer reply Replies: 0 || 2006-11-20 00:00:00
thanks! Hans.thanks Klaus! because when you gives
us these music's miracles, you make me love life

Ruth reply Replies: 0 || 2006-10-08 00:00:00
Es fabuloso este score.
Es uno de los mejores que ha hecho Badelt junto a The Time machine.
El track que más me gusta es The Robe, fantástico, tiene muchas dinámicas y una orquestación excelente. La verdad es que no hay desperdicio alguno en esta BSO, es una genialidad que marca que Klaus Badelt es un compositor excelente!!!

John reply Replies: 0 || 2006-07-07 00:00:00
Great!!!!! Best score ever heard !!!!

Movieknowa reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-11 00:00:00
send me this album to home.. i want it but i got no money plz

Mr. Manpower reply Replies: 0 || 2006-05-12 00:00:00
The best music I´ve ever heard !!!!

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2006-05-12 00:00:00
The trailer music is from the soundtrack. Except the action music in the middle, which is from the movie, but it is not on the album.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2006-03-25 00:00:00
This is one of his best so far along with Equilibrium and Time Machine

belit reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-28 00:00:00
music trailer please????

ANA reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-28 00:00:00
MUSIC OF TRAILER PLEASE????

pat reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-09 00:00:00
klaus badelt The Promise ,un grande moment de music

jens reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-29 00:00:00
"--Vielen Danke"-- für den Link und alles Gute...

The Best Hans Zimmer und Klaus Badelt

jens reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-27 00:00:00
wer kann sagen wo man die CD Klaus Badelt The Promise kaufen kann

mauro reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-27 00:00:00
With reference to Shinji post: It is clear in some parts of the score that the Last Samurai by Zimmer was a source of inspiration to this one. It has nothing wrong with the melodies and of course being treated in an oriental style does not lead for simplicity. As I said earlier the orchestral sound is a bit narrow and not wide enough and this maybe the reason why you have to listen to this score for a few times before it gets you fully blown away. I would have preferred the orchestral Sound by Zimmer like in the last samurai. There the orchestra is truly magnificient and the electronics in that score if there are any, they are subtle and compliments gracefully to the orchestra. Since this is the review part of the Promise, back to subject and after listened it few more times it is 4/5 :)

ABC reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-27 00:00:00
@Jens

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bi-49-de-15-promise%2Bsoundtrack-70-15wi.html

Shinji reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-26 00:00:00
When i first heard this score, i wasn't too impressed. I was looking for that simple yet grand and efective theme that these guys threw in our faces from time to time (like in POTC). But there's nothing like that to be found here. To tell the truth this music grew on me with every listen and meanwhile it's become my absolute number one Badelt score. The themes are far from simple and it took me a few days to get into them and really learn to appreciate them. Badelt's music for this movie sounds so huge, so powerful.. Some want to compare it to The Last Samurai, but even though i love that score, i just have to admit that The Promise sounds much more 'real', kind of less synthetic. A real orchestra did a fantastic job, and it's the first time i can't actually hear any 'out of place' electronics - if there are any at all. And of course Badelt used different instruments than Zimmer, since China still sounds a lot more different than Japan. I can't but recommend this epic score, it's a huge step forward for Badelt: 10/10.

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