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I'll try to explain myself more with the scores I wasn't a big fan of. I really like a lot of Gears of War 3. It has a lot of faster paced, melodic action cues, and the cues from Gears of War 2 are improved. Its main problem is it's not very memorable, which Jablonsky is usually able to produce. <br><br>Ender's Game I found to be a bit of a slog. There was a lot of ambient/sound design cues which I found incredibly dull. However, it's possible I was expecting too much, or maybe I was too harsh on it. I'll try to have another listen to that one. <br><br>Gangster Squad was one where I just looked at the comments to see what people thought about it, and the consensus was "it copied every recent Hollywood score", so I just skipped that one. <br><br>TF3 had a lot of good thematic material, and the finale's action music was a lot of fun, but it lacks the memorability and excitement of the first 2, or the subtlety of 5, making it fall in the middle for me. Plus the Inception sound was pretty annoying. <br><br>Gears of War 2 falls into mediocre for me. The main theme is solid, but the action is repetitive and doesn't have much variation. Plus it also wasn't very memorable. It's basically a worse version of Gears 3 to me. <br><br>Transformers 1 and 2 don't really count to me because those were more an RCP effort than a Jablonsky one. Just to clarify, I don't hate that Jablonsky went down this route. I first learned of his existence through the Transformers scores for god's sake. It's just that listening to Steamboy, it makes me sad there wasn't more of this side of Jablonsky. Oh, and honorable mention to TMNT: Out of the Shadows, that was a great superhero score!Gangster Squad was Ok, but i prefer Ender's Game, actually the sound design in that i find it certain interesting.<br><br>In Battleship, yeah, it's nothing original, but for me, is a guilty pleasure, i love the percussion (i'm a big fan of the taiko sound)<br><br>Ender’s Game isn’t bad at all, there are some cool power anthems and orchestral moments in it. As for Battleship, while I find most of it generic, I genuinely do like the alien “MRI” sound design he incorporated.<br><br>And one of Jablonsky’s most underrated scores imo is Gangster Squad. If you want a fun Jablonsky score that strays away (mostly) from the Zimmer sound that’s it. Any score using Antz as a temp track is fine by me!I will disagree with TF3, Ender's Game, Gears of War 2 and 3, there are good scores, altough i'm a massive fan of that guilty pleasure is Battleship ;D<br><br>And A Nightmare on Elm Street was cool.John Powell to receive Henry Mancini Award. <br><br>Look it up at filmmusicreporter.<br><br>Congrats John
Edmund's right. It's really just sad that Jablonsky could have been one of the greatest composers ever, one with more notoriety and respect from the music community, but instead settled for being... a decent composer.<br><br>TF5 was a step in the right direction, D-War was a great monster movie score, Your Highness came close to Steamboy levels, and IDEA felt like Jablonsky's symphony in a lot of ways. But on the other end you have Ender's Game, Transformers 3 and 4, Battleship, Gears of War 2, Gears of War: Judgement, and a few others that range from ok, to flat out awful. Occasionally though you get some decent ones like Gears of War 3, and A Nightmare on Elm Street.<br><br>My point is, we get a composer overridden with bland projects, and musically inept directors, when he had the potential for being Oscar level.This just occurred to me. 1:44-2:10ish in Remember Who You Are kind of sounds like part of Mozart’s Ave Verum Corpus...and we know Hans is a fan of that piece...@mpolonest: I'm the opposite side: BvS grown each time i listened.<br><br>Not the same for MoS ;D@DS<br><br>You are absolutely right, and it was something that I did think about while I was writing the post, I just never clarified it. <br><br>But that also has the opposite effect as well. I've had plenty of scores/songs which originally I liked that I gradually grew to dislike or simply lose interest. One of the most recent ones is BvS, which I enjoyed when it came out but looking back is probably one of my least favorite Zimmer scores.@Edmund @Ds totally agree! This days the only composer that convince me is Steven Price.
Is there a Balfe score that is not very temped? Every single Balfe score I listened to is basically giving an old score a fresh set of paint.mpolonest123: it's difficult to compare scores that are 10 years old and that you had plenty of time to digest, with brand new scores you've only heard a couple of times.<br><br>You said it yourself, when Clash of the Titans came out you thought it was generic and forgettable. It's only later that you noticed all these themes and all the work Djawadi put into it.<br><br>And actually it works like that with any new album released by any major artist. Fans are always like "it sucks, I prefer their previous albums". And yet 5 years later they love all these songs and know them by heart. :-pEdmund: I see your point, and if everyone could become 100% objective it would be actually true. But in practice, our personal tastes play a heavy role in deciding whether a score is interesting or fun or creative or intelligent or enjoyable. Some people like very classical, orchestral music more than anything else; even if JXL was creating the craziest soundtrack ever, his sound palette and synthetic approach alone would be enough to make these people dislike the score and say it's rubbish. The level of detail he put in Tomb Raider is astonishing, but sadly it'll only be noticed by people who are not upset by this style of brutal and synthetic environment. Of course it also works the other way, dry orchestral scores like Giacchino frequently writes do nothing to me, I don't particularly like this kind of sound, so I never spent a lot of time listening to them. As a consequence, I never was able to dissect them to discover all their (I guess) richness, subtleties, etc. So from my point of view, almost all Giacchino scores sound the same way and are not interesting, and I don't understand how and why he keeps getting all those major assignments. That's to say, our personal preferences will always interfere with our judgment, even if we honestly try to be fair.I feel like I see/have this kind of conversation on film music boards all the time. The approach isn't the problem, it's the execution. For example, when Man of Steel came out:<br><br>me: "I'm a bit disappointed by Man of Steel, it has its moments but I don't think it's a very good score overall"<br>fanboys: "JOHN WILLIAMS WAS YESTERDAY, ZIMMER IS TODAY, THIS IS A DIFFERENT SUPERMAN BLAH BLAH BLAH GET OVER IT"<br>me: "...did I mention Williams?"<br><br>or else Mad Max: Fury Road<br><br>me: "Mad Max is a decent score but I feel like the film deserved much more"<br>fanboys: "THERE'S LITERALLY A DUDE ON A DRUM CAR WITH A FLAMETHROWER GUITAR WHAT DID YOU EXPECT"<br>me: "...a composer who does more interesting things with those drums and that guitar?"<br><br>All over the place. It was really aggravating. This is a similar situation A talented film composer can write interesting, engaging music in all sorts of styles, for all sorts of films and under all sorts of directorial conditions. My issue with Tomb Raider isn't that it's not a traditional Jerry Goldsmith adventure score. I never expected that from this film, and certainly not from this composer. It's just not a very interesting or intelligent or enjoyable version of what it's trying to be, and that's the bottom line.@mrzimmerfan <br><br>I completely agree with you. Tomb Raider definitely didn’t need a traditional score at all. And I love all the scores you’ve mentioned. I even don’t have a problem with the approach he took.<br><br>But I just don’t like the score as is. We just have to agree to disagree, no harm done. :-)
I don't think he means that, just that it would have been interesting if Jablonsky had gone more into animated movies like Powell did, rather than mostly Michael Bay. I think maybe we got a hint of what that could have been like with Your Highness a few years ago, a score I'll always defend, but yeah...the lack of follow-up to Steamboy is a great tragedy in Jablonsky's career.@mpolonest: I will enjoyed more Run All Night than Mad Max, hell, even The Dark Tower.<br><br>But with Tomb Raider, this movie is harsh, with a real character, and an adventure score a la Goldsmith or JNH, will not benefit anything about it. And in there, there is a lot of great sounds and ideas pop up in all the score.<br><br>And this is telling you a guy who LOVE The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, the entire Indiana Jones and Jumanji scores.@mpolonest: I will enjoyed more Run All Night than Mad Max, hell, even The Dark Tower.<br><br>But with Tomb Raider, this movie is harsh, with a real character, and an adventure score a la Goldsmith or JNH, will not benefit anything about it. And in there, there is a lot of great sounds and ideas pop up in all the score.<br><br>And this is telling you a guy who LOVE The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, the entire Indiana Jones and Jumanji scores.I don't think Jablonsky is going to be a new John Powell ;)<br><br>But this one of his most notable efforts, i will said that.This is feels like a very temped soundtrack, only that explains why the score is so generic. I wonder which movies music scenes producer-director used to make lorne do this. <br><br>Track 8 - is Tron legacy (dont know maybe he worked on it, powell was involved maybe he was too)

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The Promise
Label: Superb Records
Length: 73'44 rating:        4/5
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  1. Freedom Of The Wa (2:40)
  2. Wuji - Main Theme (3:45)
  3. Love Theme (2:13)
  4. Kunlun, The Slave (1:48)
  5. Qingcheng, The Princess (1:22)
  6. Guangming, The General (1:07)
  7. Wuhuan, The Duke (1:53)
  8. Princess Kite (5:03)
  9. The Promise (5:22)
  10. Snow Country (4:32)
  11. The Robe (8:04)
  12. Save The King (4:00)
  13. Guilang, The Assassin (2:24)
  14. Saving a Princess (3:17)
  15. Feather Fight (2:04)
  16. Waterfall (2:44)
  17. Stampede (4:45)
  18. Come Back (4:28)
  19. Birdcage (1:53)
  20. Wuhuan's Plan (10:20)
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Anonymous reply Replies: 3 || 2013-03-08 18:05:48
Recording Sessions

01 - 1m1 The Tree
02 - 1m10 New Master
03 - 1m2 Qingcheng Runs
04 - 1m4 The Deal
05 - 1m7 Fanfare
06 - 1m8 Stampede
07 - 1m9 Battle
08 - 2m12 forest Prophecy
09 - 2m14 Bitter Tears
10 - 2m15 Assassinating the Gene
11 - 2m16 Kunlun's Ride
12 - 2m17-18 Saving a Princess
13 - 2m19-20 Waterfall
14 - 2m21 Birdcage
15 - 3m23 kunlun to the Rescue
16 - 3m25 Princess Kite
17 - 3m26 Feather Fight
18 - 3m27 Superball
19 - 3m28 Already Fallen
20 - 3m29 Making Beds
21 - 4m31 Princess Leaves
22 - 4m32 Snow Country
23 - 4m33 Cherry Blossom
24 - 4m34 Let Me Take You There
25 - 5m37 Playful Love
26 - 5m38-39 Children Without Pa
27 - 5m41 Kunlun and Qingcheng
28 - 5m44 General Sees Qingcheng
29 - 5m45 Where is the Armor
30 - 5m46 Room of Screens
31 - 6m49 Dancing Columns
32 - 6m50 Slave Speech
33 - 6m52 Just a Flesh Wound
34 - 6m53 Wuhuan's story
35 - 7m55 The End

...2013-03-08 19:26:12
So now it has leaked...

tim2013-03-08 20:12:20
leaked? it has been on klaus website for months... ^^

JJ2013-03-09 07:59:56
Better call it selections from the recording sessions. I can tell that compared to the OST alone, this is missing a good number of cues.

Macejko reply Replies: 5 || 2013-01-27 22:45:54
Great score indeed. Does anyone know of an another Badelt's soundtrack, which has similar qualities?

HGW42013-01-27 23:00:38
The Time Machine. My favorite!

Edmund Meinerts2013-01-27 23:09:51
The Time Machine seconded. It has a lot of temp track love in it but it's a pretty fantastic score nonetheless. Other than that if you can find Solomon Kane, it's along similar grand, sweeping lines, though the themes aren't quite as lyrical.

Prott2013-01-28 01:01:00
Or K-19. That's also a wonderful and emotional score.

Edmund Meinerts2013-01-28 13:26:19
K-19's theme is a great one. The score itself is a little repetitive but worth seeking out. Also, if you can get your hands on the promo to TMNT then do at all costs! Otherwise he's got a bunch of French scores available for free on his website, most of them aren't that great, rom-com type stuff (but hell, they're legally free so who's to complain?). One of them, his thriller score A Bout Portant (Point Blank), is pretty solid with one great action cue ("Subway Foot Chase"). His theme from Poseidon is pretty good but the rest of the score is dull; same with Ultraviolet, as long as you don't mind the temp-track love for Spider-Man! Equilibrium has some fun moments too; it's probably the closest Badelt ever got to writing a classic mid-90s MV action score. Ned Kelly is more laid back and lyrical but quite pretty.

There, that ought to give you enough to chew on for a while. ;)

Macejko2013-01-28 23:00:28
Thanks guys, I'll definitely give those a shot :)

Phi B reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-30 18:08:26
amazing score...

many thank's to Klaus Badelt

me reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-21 00:00:00
This is one of Badelt's best scores, if not his best. His use of cultural instruments and influences is seamlessly integrated into the score w/ excellent precision. It does not match fellow MediaVentures comrade Hans Zimmer's "The Last Samurai", but is nonetheless a fantastic score. "The Promise" fits very nicely beside "The Time Machine" and "K-19" in my collection of Badelt scores. Keep it up Klaus!

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-21 00:00:00
Second favorite score ever. Last Samurai still no.1 for me. Princess Kite is just perfect...starts with solo violin and ends with solo violin. I too wish there was an expanded release.

aaa reply Replies: 0 || 2008-02-09 00:00:00

Slither reply Replies: 0 || 2007-12-04 00:00:00
The promise is without a dought Badelts best score to date, he was really inspired during his stay in China that he really came out of the experience with a score which tops even Zimmers latest offerings. I cant wait to see a complete release of the promise score, because i have seen the film and there are a lot of great cues missing from the album, one in which features in the trailer

O´Maly reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Sorry for my comment, you are right Victor!!!

Hans is also one of the best!!!

It´s only sometimes I get mad when I see that the Hans Zimmer Fans vote intent bad for Klaus Badelt CDs!!!

Look at the Promise Votes and you´ll now what i mean!!! Such a wonderful Score can´t be so badley rated with only 67% !!!

Victor reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-04 00:00:00
By the way, of course it is more powerful and "real" and orchestral soundtrack, but it does depend of production, not just the composer!! It is far more expensive to pay for the whole group of musicians plus the composer than just the composer!!! Has anybody thought of how real could have been a Gladiator or Pearl Harbor soundtracks with a full orchestra?

Victor reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-04 00:00:00
I do not agree with the opinions that say Klaus is better than Hans, whose Last Samurai or King Arthur soundtracks are as good as The Promise one. Hans has created some of the best epic and action film music ever.Why are you so unfair with this genius who was also Klaus' and so many other's inspiration? I do think they both are among the best in the actual scene and probaly are creating the most beautiful soundtracks of the moment. It is a stupid debate.

King Barry reply Replies: 0 || 2006-12-30 00:00:00
wow amazing!!!!

O´Maly reply Replies: 0 || 2006-12-28 00:00:00
I allways was an Hans Zimmer Fan, but since The Promise I know, Klaus Badelt is so much better!!!
He is the one who can make a score lyric wihtout an stupid Synthesizer!!!
Now I´m a huge Klaus Badelt Fan he is so talented and gorgeous!!! You´ll see, in the near future he will be famous as Zimmer ,John Williams or Jerry Goldsmith!!!
Just wait for Rescue Dawn and Turtles, they sure will be superb like every Klaus Badelt Score!!!

forget Zimmer, Klaus Badelt blows you away!!!

Loren reply Replies: 0 || 2006-12-22 00:00:00
Freedom of the Wa is just impossible to describe... and the entire score has made me look, three times... at Klaus Badelt.

Danny chang reply Replies: 0 || 2006-11-21 00:00:00
best score ever, forget Hans, Klaus rules!

music dreamer reply Replies: 0 || 2006-11-20 00:00:00
thanks! Hans.thanks Klaus! because when you gives
us these music's miracles, you make me love life

Ruth reply Replies: 0 || 2006-10-08 00:00:00
Es fabuloso este score.
Es uno de los mejores que ha hecho Badelt junto a The Time machine.
El track que más me gusta es The Robe, fantástico, tiene muchas dinámicas y una orquestación excelente. La verdad es que no hay desperdicio alguno en esta BSO, es una genialidad que marca que Klaus Badelt es un compositor excelente!!!

John reply Replies: 0 || 2006-07-07 00:00:00
Great!!!!! Best score ever heard !!!!

Movieknowa reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-11 00:00:00
send me this album to home.. i want it but i got no money plz

Mr. Manpower reply Replies: 0 || 2006-05-12 00:00:00
The best music I´ve ever heard !!!!

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2006-05-12 00:00:00
The trailer music is from the soundtrack. Except the action music in the middle, which is from the movie, but it is not on the album.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2006-03-25 00:00:00
This is one of his best so far along with Equilibrium and Time Machine

belit reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-28 00:00:00
music trailer please????

ANA reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-28 00:00:00

pat reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-09 00:00:00
klaus badelt The Promise ,un grande moment de music

jens reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-29 00:00:00
"--Vielen Danke"-- für den Link und alles Gute...

The Best Hans Zimmer und Klaus Badelt

jens reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-27 00:00:00
wer kann sagen wo man die CD Klaus Badelt The Promise kaufen kann

mauro reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-27 00:00:00
With reference to Shinji post: It is clear in some parts of the score that the Last Samurai by Zimmer was a source of inspiration to this one. It has nothing wrong with the melodies and of course being treated in an oriental style does not lead for simplicity. As I said earlier the orchestral sound is a bit narrow and not wide enough and this maybe the reason why you have to listen to this score for a few times before it gets you fully blown away. I would have preferred the orchestral Sound by Zimmer like in the last samurai. There the orchestra is truly magnificient and the electronics in that score if there are any, they are subtle and compliments gracefully to the orchestra. Since this is the review part of the Promise, back to subject and after listened it few more times it is 4/5 :)

ABC reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-27 00:00:00

Shinji reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-26 00:00:00
When i first heard this score, i wasn't too impressed. I was looking for that simple yet grand and efective theme that these guys threw in our faces from time to time (like in POTC). But there's nothing like that to be found here. To tell the truth this music grew on me with every listen and meanwhile it's become my absolute number one Badelt score. The themes are far from simple and it took me a few days to get into them and really learn to appreciate them. Badelt's music for this movie sounds so huge, so powerful.. Some want to compare it to The Last Samurai, but even though i love that score, i just have to admit that The Promise sounds much more 'real', kind of less synthetic. A real orchestra did a fantastic job, and it's the first time i can't actually hear any 'out of place' electronics - if there are any at all. And of course Badelt used different instruments than Zimmer, since China still sounds a lot more different than Japan. I can't but recommend this epic score, it's a huge step forward for Badelt: 10/10.

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