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Sadly, he doesn't seem to say anything new besides the background information on the Zimmer and Harry Gregson scores he's worked on. Plus the Skyscraper information still doesn't excuse the generic committee product that score turned out to be.Does anyone know what songs Max Aruj and Steffen Thum have worked on?Though there are differences, I think HZ & NGS styles mix together rather well.<br><br>Tracks like "Fort Walton", "Goodspeed Tracks Jade" or "Jade" are exceptions for sure. Apart from these, most tracks blend very well, imo.<br>It's very different from Armageddon for exemple, when team Trevor and team Harry had very different styles (big anthems & guitars VS darker material and more subtle theme developments) and also different sound equipments (I can tell immediately who did what thanks to the sound banks they used). The Rock doesn't suffer from those extreme differences imo.<br><br>We fans here listened to those scores for over 20 years and we've learnt how to spot each composer (thanks to this website and all the infos on each track we got over the years). I'm not sure I could have noticed all those details back in 1996, or even 10 years ago.<br><br>Nonetheless, The Rock is one of the greatest action scores ever. While more coherent scores like Crimson Tide or The Fan grew on me over the years, The Rock keeps a very special place in my heart.yes i hope 2 cd!!!!Hi, <br>Ever paid tribute to Gorecki?<br>I think you should<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Mjt Sprengers
The only way I won't be able to the listen to it before the episode is if it will be released in Germany in the night to tuesday. But I don't know how I would find that.Does someone know something about the soundtrack already? Like how many songs there will be or maybe even the full track list? Or will it be a big surprise?I will, Backbiter, because I live in Germany and in my country the final episode will be released on monday. I will watch it with my friends and therefore we will watch it around 8pm in my time. If the soundtrack will be released in the night from sunday to monday, I will be able to listen to the soundtrack before I watch the final episode.Yasss<br><br>Please be 2 discsThis is an okay score. Nothing super spectacular, but it fits the movie very well. The only issue I really took is that the end credits arrangement of the Pokemon video game theme is absent from the CD - I would wager quite a few people bought the CD just for that only to be disappointed. For me, it would have ended the CD perfectly.<br><br>Anybody know why it was left off? Something Nintendo told them 'no' on?
Very interesting interview. Thanks man!Judging by the YouTube views, not a lot of people have listened to this 1-hour chat with Steve. So I'm posting it here for you folks to enjoy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR0TPYmidNYI have nothing against any of the composers who worked on The Rock, but to my ears, the Nick Glennie-Smith stuff sounds obviously different from the Hans Zimmer stuff, and they both sound very different from the Harry Gregson-Williams stuff. And the transitions are a tad jarring at times. I've never seen anyone else post this opinion before, though, so I may be the only one!<br>=====================<br><br><br>That's actually very interesting. Never thought of it that way. And you're right. For those who are well aware of the overall MV/RC sound, there is indeed a difference between the Zimmer style and the Glennie-Smith style. However, I think that the two styles blend pretty well in The Rock. The movie itself allows for that. So I would argue that, while watching the actual movie, the two styles work very well together and they complement each other. <br><br>But listening to the score alone, yes, I can definitely see where you're coming from. The differences are obvious. Having said that, I still consider it to be a masterpiece of action scoring. And not only action. The emotional bits are great too. JADE is an extremely beautiful and tender track :))<br><br>P.S. The Peacemaker is on my personal TOP 5 of the greatest action scores of all time. I can't believe the score is not as popular as The Rock. Same for Eraser, by the way. Watch the movie again on a good sound system and you'll be blown away by the awesome Silvestri score. I really wish those two scores were more popular with the public......The 90s had some of the greatest action movie scores ever<br>================================<br><br>Without a doubt. I grew up in the 90s and I was there for all of it. Truly one of the best decades for film music (and for cinema in general). I mean, it's the decade that changed action scores forever. Exactly because of scores like The Rock, Twister, Armageddon, Crimson Tide and The Peacemaker. Granted, Harold Faltermeyer kinda started it all in the mid-80s with his work on Top Gun, Tango and Cash and Beverly Hills Cop 2, but it was Hans and his team who really got the ball rolling. By the way, I'm super happy that Hans and Faltermeyer are teaming up for Top Gun 2. At least according to IMDb....<br><br><br>==================<br>The opening theme is probably Zimmer's best in the genre<br>==================<br><br>Agreed. It's the ultimate Zimmer power anthem. I know the younger generation knows Hans mainly from his work on comicbook movies like Batman and Spider Man, but for me, 90's Zimmer will always be the best Zimmer. And my favorite Zimmer :))I'm so excited hear that.
No you won't, the score will be released after the final episode.Yesssssssssss yessss yesCan't wait for this soundtrack.<br>Just a few days left.Oh. My. Gods. (The old ones and the new.) That's so good news. And I can't wait for sunday.<br><br>The best is, that I can here the soundtrack before I watch the final episode. And I like to hear to a score without knowing wich music belongs to what kind of scene.Yesss. Can't wait!
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The Promise
Label: Superb Records
Length: 73'44
HZimmer.com rating:        4/5
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  1. Freedom Of The Wa (2:40)
  2. Wuji - Main Theme (3:45)
  3. Love Theme (2:13)
  4. Kunlun, The Slave (1:48)
  5. Qingcheng, The Princess (1:22)
  6. Guangming, The General (1:07)
  7. Wuhuan, The Duke (1:53)
  8. Princess Kite (5:03)
  9. The Promise (5:22)
  10. Snow Country (4:32)
  11. The Robe (8:04)
  12. Save The King (4:00)
  13. Guilang, The Assassin (2:24)
  14. Saving a Princess (3:17)
  15. Feather Fight (2:04)
  16. Waterfall (2:44)
  17. Stampede (4:45)
  18. Come Back (4:28)
  19. Birdcage (1:53)
  20. Wuhuan's Plan (10:20)
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Anonymous reply Replies: 3 || 2013-03-08 18:05:48
Recording Sessions
Tracklist:

01 - 1m1 The Tree
02 - 1m10 New Master
03 - 1m2 Qingcheng Runs
04 - 1m4 The Deal
05 - 1m7 Fanfare
06 - 1m8 Stampede
07 - 1m9 Battle
08 - 2m12 forest Prophecy
09 - 2m14 Bitter Tears
10 - 2m15 Assassinating the Gene
11 - 2m16 Kunlun's Ride
12 - 2m17-18 Saving a Princess
13 - 2m19-20 Waterfall
14 - 2m21 Birdcage
15 - 3m23 kunlun to the Rescue
16 - 3m25 Princess Kite
17 - 3m26 Feather Fight
18 - 3m27 Superball
19 - 3m28 Already Fallen
20 - 3m29 Making Beds
21 - 4m31 Princess Leaves
22 - 4m32 Snow Country
23 - 4m33 Cherry Blossom
24 - 4m34 Let Me Take You There
25 - 5m37 Playful Love
26 - 5m38-39 Children Without Pa
27 - 5m41 Kunlun and Qingcheng
28 - 5m44 General Sees Qingcheng
29 - 5m45 Where is the Armor
30 - 5m46 Room of Screens
31 - 6m49 Dancing Columns
32 - 6m50 Slave Speech
33 - 6m52 Just a Flesh Wound
34 - 6m53 Wuhuan's story
35 - 7m55 The End


...2013-03-08 19:26:12
So now it has leaked...


tim2013-03-08 20:12:20
leaked? it has been on klaus website for months... ^^


JJ2013-03-09 07:59:56
Better call it selections from the recording sessions. I can tell that compared to the OST alone, this is missing a good number of cues.

Macejko reply Replies: 5 || 2013-01-27 22:45:54
Great score indeed. Does anyone know of an another Badelt's soundtrack, which has similar qualities?


HGW42013-01-27 23:00:38
The Time Machine. My favorite!


Edmund Meinerts2013-01-27 23:09:51
The Time Machine seconded. It has a lot of temp track love in it but it's a pretty fantastic score nonetheless. Other than that if you can find Solomon Kane, it's along similar grand, sweeping lines, though the themes aren't quite as lyrical.


Prott2013-01-28 01:01:00
Or K-19. That's also a wonderful and emotional score.


Edmund Meinerts2013-01-28 13:26:19
K-19's theme is a great one. The score itself is a little repetitive but worth seeking out. Also, if you can get your hands on the promo to TMNT then do at all costs! Otherwise he's got a bunch of French scores available for free on his website, most of them aren't that great, rom-com type stuff (but hell, they're legally free so who's to complain?). One of them, his thriller score A Bout Portant (Point Blank), is pretty solid with one great action cue ("Subway Foot Chase"). His theme from Poseidon is pretty good but the rest of the score is dull; same with Ultraviolet, as long as you don't mind the temp-track love for Spider-Man! Equilibrium has some fun moments too; it's probably the closest Badelt ever got to writing a classic mid-90s MV action score. Ned Kelly is more laid back and lyrical but quite pretty.

There, that ought to give you enough to chew on for a while. ;)


Macejko2013-01-28 23:00:28
Thanks guys, I'll definitely give those a shot :)

Phi B reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-30 18:08:26
amazing score...

many thank's to Klaus Badelt

me reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-21 00:00:00
This is one of Badelt's best scores, if not his best. His use of cultural instruments and influences is seamlessly integrated into the score w/ excellent precision. It does not match fellow MediaVentures comrade Hans Zimmer's "The Last Samurai", but is nonetheless a fantastic score. "The Promise" fits very nicely beside "The Time Machine" and "K-19" in my collection of Badelt scores. Keep it up Klaus!

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-21 00:00:00
Second favorite score ever. Last Samurai still no.1 for me. Princess Kite is just perfect...starts with solo violin and ends with solo violin. I too wish there was an expanded release.

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Slither reply Replies: 0 || 2007-12-04 00:00:00
The promise is without a dought Badelts best score to date, he was really inspired during his stay in China that he really came out of the experience with a score which tops even Zimmers latest offerings. I cant wait to see a complete release of the promise score, because i have seen the film and there are a lot of great cues missing from the album, one in which features in the trailer

O´Maly reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Sorry for my comment, you are right Victor!!!

Hans is also one of the best!!!

It´s only sometimes I get mad when I see that the Hans Zimmer Fans vote intent bad for Klaus Badelt CDs!!!

Look at the Promise Votes and you´ll now what i mean!!! Such a wonderful Score can´t be so badley rated with only 67% !!!

Victor reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-04 00:00:00
By the way, of course it is more powerful and "real" and orchestral soundtrack, but it does depend of production, not just the composer!! It is far more expensive to pay for the whole group of musicians plus the composer than just the composer!!! Has anybody thought of how real could have been a Gladiator or Pearl Harbor soundtracks with a full orchestra?

Victor reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-04 00:00:00
I do not agree with the opinions that say Klaus is better than Hans, whose Last Samurai or King Arthur soundtracks are as good as The Promise one. Hans has created some of the best epic and action film music ever.Why are you so unfair with this genius who was also Klaus' and so many other's inspiration? I do think they both are among the best in the actual scene and probaly are creating the most beautiful soundtracks of the moment. It is a stupid debate.

King Barry reply Replies: 0 || 2006-12-30 00:00:00
wow amazing!!!!

O´Maly reply Replies: 0 || 2006-12-28 00:00:00
I allways was an Hans Zimmer Fan, but since The Promise I know, Klaus Badelt is so much better!!!
He is the one who can make a score lyric wihtout an stupid Synthesizer!!!
Now I´m a huge Klaus Badelt Fan he is so talented and gorgeous!!! You´ll see, in the near future he will be famous as Zimmer ,John Williams or Jerry Goldsmith!!!
Just wait for Rescue Dawn and Turtles, they sure will be superb like every Klaus Badelt Score!!!

forget Zimmer, Klaus Badelt blows you away!!!

Loren reply Replies: 0 || 2006-12-22 00:00:00
Freedom of the Wa is just impossible to describe... and the entire score has made me look twice...no, three times... at Klaus Badelt.

Danny chang reply Replies: 0 || 2006-11-21 00:00:00
best score ever, forget Hans, Klaus rules!

music dreamer reply Replies: 0 || 2006-11-20 00:00:00
thanks! Hans.thanks Klaus! because when you gives
us these music's miracles, you make me love life

Ruth reply Replies: 0 || 2006-10-08 00:00:00
Es fabuloso este score.
Es uno de los mejores que ha hecho Badelt junto a The Time machine.
El track que más me gusta es The Robe, fantástico, tiene muchas dinámicas y una orquestación excelente. La verdad es que no hay desperdicio alguno en esta BSO, es una genialidad que marca que Klaus Badelt es un compositor excelente!!!

John reply Replies: 0 || 2006-07-07 00:00:00
Great!!!!! Best score ever heard !!!!

Movieknowa reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-11 00:00:00
send me this album to home.. i want it but i got no money plz

Mr. Manpower reply Replies: 0 || 2006-05-12 00:00:00
The best music I´ve ever heard !!!!

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2006-05-12 00:00:00
The trailer music is from the soundtrack. Except the action music in the middle, which is from the movie, but it is not on the album.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2006-03-25 00:00:00
This is one of his best so far along with Equilibrium and Time Machine

belit reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-28 00:00:00
music trailer please????

ANA reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-28 00:00:00
MUSIC OF TRAILER PLEASE????

pat reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-09 00:00:00
klaus badelt The Promise ,un grande moment de music

jens reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-29 00:00:00
"--Vielen Danke"-- für den Link und alles Gute...

The Best Hans Zimmer und Klaus Badelt

jens reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-27 00:00:00
wer kann sagen wo man die CD Klaus Badelt The Promise kaufen kann

mauro reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-27 00:00:00
With reference to Shinji post: It is clear in some parts of the score that the Last Samurai by Zimmer was a source of inspiration to this one. It has nothing wrong with the melodies and of course being treated in an oriental style does not lead for simplicity. As I said earlier the orchestral sound is a bit narrow and not wide enough and this maybe the reason why you have to listen to this score for a few times before it gets you fully blown away. I would have preferred the orchestral Sound by Zimmer like in the last samurai. There the orchestra is truly magnificient and the electronics in that score if there are any, they are subtle and compliments gracefully to the orchestra. Since this is the review part of the Promise, back to subject and after listened it few more times it is 4/5 :)

ABC reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-27 00:00:00
@Jens

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bi-49-de-15-promise%2Bsoundtrack-70-15wi.html

Shinji reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-26 00:00:00
When i first heard this score, i wasn't too impressed. I was looking for that simple yet grand and efective theme that these guys threw in our faces from time to time (like in POTC). But there's nothing like that to be found here. To tell the truth this music grew on me with every listen and meanwhile it's become my absolute number one Badelt score. The themes are far from simple and it took me a few days to get into them and really learn to appreciate them. Badelt's music for this movie sounds so huge, so powerful.. Some want to compare it to The Last Samurai, but even though i love that score, i just have to admit that The Promise sounds much more 'real', kind of less synthetic. A real orchestra did a fantastic job, and it's the first time i can't actually hear any 'out of place' electronics - if there are any at all. And of course Badelt used different instruments than Zimmer, since China still sounds a lot more different than Japan. I can't but recommend this epic score, it's a huge step forward for Badelt: 10/10.

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