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what the hell is Quaker steak and lube????I disagree on Catwoman. I love Zimmer's theme and I thought it is one of his most underrated themes.Loved the new tracks!<br><br>Hans & Chris really did something special.<br><br>I enjoyed the Tenet score, but honestly Ludwig's work doesn't compare to Zimmer's. I just hope they work together again instead of Chris choosing Ludwig as his main collaborator from now on.Agreed.<br><br>I don’t know, TDKR feels a little oppressive to me in comparison with BB and TDK , probably as a result of Nolan’s musical tastes veering away from symphonic to more abstract. Reading the new book on Nolan gives me the impression that he has a very similar approach to his music as he does his filmmaking. With that said though, TDKR is still a solid conclusion to the franchise. Bane’s theme is excellent and the culmination of the various “Bat-Themes” do feel well earned. Catwoman’s theme is solid, but for some reason is dropped from most of the movie in favor of the repeating two-note phrase.<br><br>@Moggyman<br>Honestly I feel as if JNH’s work on the first two Hunger Games sequels showed a strong improvement in writing and theme building. The last score was a bit too much of a pastiche, but orchestrally a stronger fit than the first one. And “Crimes of Grindelwald” is easily one of the best sequel scores in the past few years (alongside Star Wars and HTTYD). Unfortunately we still don’t have a good album situation for that though. -_-Counterpoint: I liked Crimes of Grindelwald more than the first Fantastic Beasts. And forget Hanging Tree - "Air Raid Drill" from the first and "Sewer Attack" from the second Mockingjay are the best cues from that series. Plus, JNH honestly hasn't worked on that many sequels so we don't really have enough to go on here. <br><br>I think having JNH on board for Catwoman would have done wonders for this score. Hans' theme is okay, but feels like a bit of an afterthought compared to Bane.
TDK & TDKR have amazing theme suites.<br><br>But as for the scores in film, they don't even get close to Batman Begins !I like Tom but idk he's gone downhill in my book. Alita was boring, i was over the moon excited for Terminator cause that was a perfect mix and it was disappointed big time. I'd love to hear Steve Jablonsky tackle that and get back to being as great as he used to, he has been phoning it in big time latelyOk, before I eat my words, JNH did create the Hanging Tree in Mockingjay p1 which was good, but nothing else other than that in the sequels.For being the so called "weakest", it's very good. And if you think that Bane's theme is repetitive, I would say the same about the Joker's theme in TDK (to me they are both good though). <br><br>Now in all fairness, JNH could have probably added good material to the score since he's a genius, but I personally think he doesn't do well on sequels. Sure, in TDK he gave harvey dent a theme that resonated with his character (but was similar to material already used in BB). Yet, if you look at his work in the hunger games, its seems to me that he couldn't bring something both new and compelling to the sequels as he did in the first movie. I will agree with you that Batman Begins has the best music of the series though.After re-listening to this one, it's clearly the weakest of the trilogy. Of course it's not bad, the new themes are pretty good (though I think Bane's theme is a bit too repetitive and dry at times), there's still emotional moments, but JNH's absence really left a hole in this score.<br><br>I get to an extent that's the point, that all of Bruce's potential for a happy life is gone, but even the emotional tracks to me have nowhere near the emotional resonance that JNH's themes brought to the films. <br><br>"Come With Me" is the best example, where the slow emotional Selina Kyle chords just don't leave much of an impact. Definitely could have used JNH's "Courthouse Pt. 1" or the main theme from "Bruce Left For Dead" to emphasize Bruce's giving up of a quiet life. <br><br>Of course I still appreciate the way the 2 note motif is developed into a theme of its own, as well as the score as a whole, but then you get tracks like "Many Forms of Immortality" which just emphasize how much more effective the thematic work in Batman Begins was.
It could also be Tom, who worked on Run All Night, and is already an established DC composer<br>Either way I'll be happyI lowkey think James is gonna score the Black Adam movie. it's the same director from Jungle Cruise so I'm sure he'll be brought along for itsameNo no, it's just a fake rumor. I was just responding to that MusoPT guy who made it sound like it's totally inconceivable that Balfe could ever be replaced.Wait!<br>So has Balfe been replaced due to having other projects?<br>I thought it had been completed?
Why was there the change of composers?...wouldn't being really busy be an argument *for* him possibly being replaced? When you're signed on to 10 movies and release schedules are being constantly pushed around because nobody has a clue when theaters are going to open again, you shouldn't be surprised if eventually you might run into some conflicts.Jackman is not replacing Balfe! <br>Balfe is the most busiest composer at the moment so he isn’t going to get replaced last minute!!!!!Thank you for your replies. On IMDB she is listed.Alright, after re-listening to the score, I've made a few educated guesses of what the additional composers did, based on what we know about the score and their previous work. Note that none of this is confirmed by Hybrid, just my opinion.<br><br>Lorne Balfe: Seems to practically be a co-composer here. I hear a lot of him in this score. It seems he did Invasion (as he's known for contributing trailer music to films he works on) seemingly the suites "Brooding", "Deciphering the Signal", "Battle", and the one we know he cowrote, "Journey Suite". Based on this here's my guess as to what he contributed. <br><br>Soccent Attack - Sounds like his style, probably him arranging AllSpark and Decepticon material. <br><br>Keller's Briefing - Arrangement of "Deciphering the Signal"<br><br>Deciphering the Signal - Obviously another arrangement of "Deciphering the Signal" with Batman Begins-like action at the end.<br><br>Sam's Pink Bike Ride (Part 2) - Sounds like an arrangement of "Brooding" material. <br><br>(Possibly?) Are You LadiesMan217? - Some arrangement of "Brooding" and "Journey Suite" material, although hard to say whether the theme at 1:10 is Steve's or Lorne's. Could be Steve arranging Lorne material, as it sounds more Jablonsky-esque to me. <br><br>Autobots to the Rescue - Could be Steve imitating Batman Begins style, but sounds far too Lorne for me to not consider it a co-written track. <br><br>Sector 7 Chase - Part 1 sounds more Jablonsky than Lorne, but there's no question to me that part 2 has a lot of Balfe in there. <br><br>Where Is My Car? - Batman Begins-like again, probably Lorne solo, or Lorne and Steve<br><br>Decepticons Mobilize (Part 2) - Arrangement of "Brooding"<br><br>Freeway Fight - Battle version of Decepticon theme from "Brooding"<br><br>Stumble Bumble (Part 1) & (Part 2 Alternate) - Arrangement of "Journey Suite", second part not used in the film sounds like Steve & Lorne Combo to me. Film version of part 2 sounds pure Steve to me. <br><br>You're A Soldier Now (Parts 1 & 3) - Lorne being heavily involved in the final battle is known, and Parts 1 and 3 have arrangements of Lorne material. I'm also fairly certain that Lorne wrote the Optimus vs Megatron theme from Part 3 and "Optimus vs Megatron".<br><br>Optimus vs Megatron - Finale of theme introduced in "You're A Soldier Now (Part 3)" as well as the "Journey / AllSpark" theme which could be Lorne's or Steve's. <br><br>Trevor Morris: I can infer from his work on Pirates 2, The Island, and the one track we know he worked on. <br><br>Soldiers Arrive - Not sure why, but I've always assumed this military theme was Morris'.<br><br>Arctic 1897 - Dark theme that reminds me a lot of his work from Pirates 2. <br><br>Scorponok - Known fact that he co-wrote this. <br><br>Hoover Dam - Arrangement of military theme<br><br>Transforming -  Same theme from Arctic 1897<br><br>Sam on the Roof (Part 2) - Arrangement of theme from Scorponok, though could be Steve or Lorne arranging it.<br><br>Optimus vs Megatron - A slight hint to the Military theme when they begin attacking Blackout, and Scorponok theme reprisal, once again could be Steve or Lorne arranging these themes. <br><br>Creeper Suite / A Call to Arms (Unused) - Original music for Optimus' Epilogue, contains arrangement of military theme. <br><br>Jay Flood: Can be inferred from his work on Transformers: The Game, his overall more orchestral writing, and his contributions to Nightmare on Elm Street, Sims 3, and Desperate Housewives. <br><br>Camaro on the Run - Definitely has a TF: The Game sound to it overall. As well as a bit of Thomas Newman-esque music. <br><br>Witwicky (Parts 1-3) - Definitely some of his style here along with Steve's overall Desperate Housewives-esque music. <br><br>Decepticons 2 Suite / Frenzy - The suspenseful strings make me think of Flood's Nightmare on Elm Street work, and the brass writing seems more characteristic of him than Jablonsky to me, though it was still probably a co-written suite. <br><br>Tense Action Suite - Once again reminds me of Flood's Nightmare suspenseful string writing, probably at least co-composed with Jablonsky. <br><br>Clay Duncan - I can guess somewhat based on his contributions to "The Island" but otherwise I don't know much about him so I'm not sure about any of the inferences I'm about the make. <br><br>Angry Camaro - This sort of drone music sounds like it could be him as his contributions were very electronic in The Island.<br><br>Bumblebee vs Barricade - Strange electronics and sounds plus more minimalist writing make me think Duncan. <br><br>Tow Truck Charge - Definitely has The Island's sound. Could be Trevor Morris too. <br><br>TJ Lindgreen: I know so little about his style except he works with Elfman and did additional music for TF: The Game so not much I can say for what he did. <br><br>Belly Shot(?) - The ethereal choir style sounds somewhat like TF: The Game's score and Elfman's choir. <br><br>Not to Hear That(?) - Maybe he composed this motif for Mikaela that also appeared in "Belly Shot". <br><br>Surreal Mikaela(?) - Once again I'm hoping the specific choir sound is part of his style. <br><br>Anything I didn't mention is a track I'm assuming is all Jablonsky. Please note that I'm not trying to take away from Steve's work on this score, and that for most of these track I'm assuming Steve had some involvement in as well, I'm just speculating for fun because I've always wanted to know who did what on this score.
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X-Men - The Last Stand
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  1. 20 Years Ago (1:10)
    John Powell
  2. Bathroom Titles (1:09)
    John Powell
  3. The Church Of Magneto‚ Raven Is My Slave Name (2:40)
    John Powell, James McKee Smith
  4. Meet Leech‚ Then Off To The Lake (2:37)
    John Powell
  5. Whirlpool Of Love (2:04)
    John Powell
  6. Examining Jean (1:12)
    John Powell
  7. Dark Phoenix (1:28)
    John Powell
  8. Angel's Cure (2:34)
    John Powell
  9. Jean And Logan (1:39)
    John Powell
  10. Dark Phoenix Awakes (1:45)
    John Powell
  11. Rejection Is Never Easy (1:09)
    John Powell
  12. Magneto Plots (2:05)
    John Powell
  13. Entering The House (1:18)
    John Powell
  14. Dark Phoenix's Tragedy (3:18)
    John Powell
  15. Farewell To X (0:30)
    John Powell
  16. The Funeral (2:52)
    John Powell
  17. Skating On The Pond (1:12)
    John Powell, John Ashton Thomas
  18. Cure Wars (2:57)
    John Powell, John Ashton Thomas
  19. Fight In The Woods (3:06)
    John Powell
  20. St. Lupus Day (3:03)
    John Powell, John Ashton Thomas
  21. Building Bridges (1:16)
    John Powell
  22. Shock And No Oars (1:15)
    John Powell
  23. Attack On Alcatraz (4:36)
    John Powell
  24. Massacre (0:31)
    John Powell, James McKee Smith
  25. The Battle Of The Cure (4:20)
    John Powell, James McKee Smith
  26. Phoenix Rises (4:21)
    John Powell
  27. The Last Stand (5:29)
    John Powell
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Fran reply Replies: 7 || 2020-11-20 20:08:16
Everyone here gawking at Powell's feet, and I'm not taking away that from them. More power to you guys, I love John Powell too. But, compared to Ottman, Jackman, Zimmer... hell, even Marco Beltrami in the Wolverine films... I don't know. I have the same opinion as CinemaWins about this score. It sounds phoned in at some points.


ThePhantasm2020-11-21 19:53:27
I don't know what you're smoking but you need to get off it. In the way is this phoned in, the orchestration and everything about it is perfect. No score for X-men has come close to this one except maybe X2


Macejko2020-11-21 20:10:22
Not too stoked on Powell, but the way Ottman's able to squander a good theme makes him close to the bottom of the barrel in my book. There is nothing musically interesting in his X-Men scores except the main titles.


MrZimmerFan2020-11-21 22:16:08
Still my favorite score from the X-Men series.


HunterTech2020-11-22 04:48:07
"There is nothing musically interesting in [Ottman's] X-Men scores except the main titles."

As if I didn't need a reminder that this place can house some ludicrous opinions sometimes (no offense intended there).

The Last Stand barely cracks the top 5 of X-Men scores for me, if only because I love the themes and it carries a lot of nostalgia for me. It's pretty clear imo that this score was at a point when Powell hadn't quite refined his sound yet. I wouldn't call it phoned in whatsoever, but it's easy to get lost at points when I'm listening to the full thing. But the highlights are too great for me to call it middling either, so it barely gets a solid grade in my book.

I'm likely in the minority when I say I actually prefer Dark Phoenix. It's much more solid as a whole product.


Edmund Meinerts2020-11-22 20:10:49
This is easily my favorite X-Men score, but I do agree there is a bit of an...*odd* feel to it sometimes. The impression I get is that Powell was reeeaallly pushing himself to write the most dense and complex and ambitious score he could, and I think he may have overreached a tad. There's definitely a big contrast between this score and the much tighter, more focused sound he was bringing in his action music from a couple years prior, like Paycheck or The Bourne Supremacy. I wouldn't say he "hadn't quite refined his sound yet" - this isn't Face/Off, his voice was pretty well established by this point - but he was trying to develop it a bit faster than it was naturally going to go.

At the same time, I love how this score goes for broke, and I hate to fault a composer for too much ambition. "Phoned in" is the LAST thing this score is. But Powell would iron out the kinks and by How to Train Your Dragon he was writing a score that was just as complex, but wore the complexity a bit more naturally than X3.


HunterTech2020-11-22 20:52:35
Oh interesting. When I said "refined his sound," I didn't mean that he was still trying to find his voice. This score absolutely exudes the qualities that make his work so appealing. You simply managed to put what I was trying to say in better terms. I'm definitely happy to give this one more goes in the future, but I remain more partial to some of the other installments.


Fran2020-11-23 03:31:08
Hah! Knew it. FYI, I'm not smoking anything. I don't smoke, and I abhor anyone who does.

alfred reply Replies: 2 || 2006-05-18 00:00:00
Interesting... A Superman Return's track was included in X3 soundtrack? ahahahah (I'm joking, but track 2 is very similar to Superman's theme).
The whole album is quite good, but in my opinion Powell has to ride a long road before becoming a good composer! "Mediocre" is my opinion about this album.
Kamen & Ottman made better!


Henko2019-09-11 22:03:20
Damn, this is wrong on so many levels


ThePhantasm2019-09-13 20:07:00
The words mediocre is not something you use when talking about this score. Kamen score is good but not on this level, and Ottman doesn't even come close. But that's just my opinion

Mephariel reply Replies: 8 || 2018-01-25 22:23:06
Hans Zimmer scoring X-Men Dark Phoenix.

Welcome back to Superhero world.


mpolonest123 2018-01-25 22:32:38
Between this and LB doing Pacific Rim, I’m more than happy. I really doubt he’ll use Ottman’s X-theme but hopefully he be as creative here as he was with ASM2!


T-Mann0362018-01-26 01:18:47
I knew that Zimmer isn't gonna retire. His previous pictures, The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice were incredible. Welcome back to the Marvel and DC Universe, Hans.


Edmund Meinerts2018-01-26 12:36:46
Zimmer retires and unretires almost as much as Hayao Miyazaki!


M2018-01-26 14:56:08
This is going to be something amazing!


DT-20172018-01-26 16:43:31
Makes me wonder if Ottman just refused to do it. Though after his reported experience with BvS, I wonder what made Zimmer change his mind on this one.


Mephariel2018-01-26 18:14:36
Probably a much better script. Kinberg has said that this is a straight up drama/suspense movie. It is completely opposite of movies like BvS and X-Men: Apocalypse.


Radik2018-01-27 09:39:38
Hans said he is willing back to comics genre if the screenplay has its quality.


JBSO992018-01-27 11:46:15
This are great news! I was hoping that the retirement thing was just temporary, and luckily it was. His scores in superhero movies are always fantastic and I cannot wait to hear what he creates in this one.

Cameron reply Replies: 0 || 2018-01-26 17:54:34
They should have gotten Powell back.

Anthony reply Replies: 1 || 2007-10-19 00:00:00
Actually Krazie835, scratch that, the link's changed:

www.johnpowellcomposer.com/features_xmenbreakdown.htm


Lucahs2015-12-05 05:29:23
Please, this link is unavailable... Do you still remember the lyrics of "Phoenix Rises"?

dark prince reply Replies: 7 || 2014-02-01 05:23:23
"Why the producers never remember John Powell?". Is what I question to my self everytime outs a dissappointing superheroe score, like The Avengers by Alan Silvestri, John Powell did this great score for X-Men, and looks like nobody remember it, why John Powell never else did another superhero score (ok, it's Hancock, I know), but Joh Powell can do something else, to part of just excelent score for animated movies


Ds2014-02-01 12:49:00
Maybe they ask him every time and he's the one refusing these projects... He took a lot of time for himself/his family, maybe he's not as much a work-junkie as HZ is :-)

But these are pure speculations, we don't have a clue.

The essential thing is: a lot of people are missing John Powell and would be extremely happy to see him gloriously return. I hope he comes from time to time on this website and see all the love we have for him!


Mike2014-02-01 14:50:29
2015, guys—How To Train Your Dragon 2 and, presumably, the next John Williams Star Wars score! :D


MrZimmerFan2014-02-01 21:32:22
My favorite of Powell


dark prince2014-02-01 23:58:27
How to Train Your Dragon 2 is for 2014, I really want to hear this score, the first is a masterpiece by John Powell


Ds2014-02-02 00:44:54
Mike if there's one thing in 2015 i absolutely don't care about, it has to be that f#cking Star Wars movie, including its soundtrack. And i'm already tired of all the hype that's going to come over the next two years :D


Mike2014-02-02 03:39:19
lol....harsh. I can understand not caring about the movie, but the music, too???? :P Oh well, to each his own.


Edmund Meinerts2014-02-02 11:48:07
How can you not care about the opportunity to hear more Star Wars scores from John Williams?

phoenixxx reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-10 00:00:00
I do love this song! Exactly describes the soul of phoenix. But still, i hate the producers of XMEN because Jean WAS NOT supposed to die,wo phoenix and her, there is no reason to watch!

Edgar reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
Dark Phoenix's Tragedy & Phoenix Rises FTW!!

ahmet reply Replies: 0 || 2010-12-05 00:00:00
Very Good :)

dian.theeditors reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-20 00:00:00
good audio friends...

nova reply Replies: 0 || 2008-09-27 00:00:00
Rising Empire and Plague Burial are the trailer songs.. just in case anyone was wondering..

bushsbunnys reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-03 00:00:00
I LOVE phoenix rises!! I consider it my own personal theme, and I play it every morning to get my blood pumping! It is a better eye-opener than coffee WITH caffene! It's better than a 6-pack of red bulls! It's just so Goddessy-girl-powery-awe-inspiring-wowee-wow-wow!

Danny reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-07 00:00:00
I have to say...the "Phoenix Rises" is just too powerful for me to listen to without breaking down with tears in my eyes!!! I know every fan in here would agree with me! I'm not ashamed to admit my personal feelings for this particular score! It's just that every time that I hear "Phoenix Rises", it seems that every core inside my body is forcing its way through the pores of my skin!!! Unbelievably incredible film score by John Powell!!!

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-06 00:00:00
It's "Rising Empire" composed by these guys:

www.immediatemusic.com

Fox reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-06 00:00:00
What theme music is playing at the end of the x3 teaser and first trailer? adeo already asked, but no one answered

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-19 00:00:00
Krazie835, look at my post about the complete score breakdown. :)

Krazie835 reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-19 00:00:00
Dies irae, dies illa, This day, this day of wrath
Solvet saeclum in favilla: Shall consume the world in ashes,
Quando Judex est venturus When the judge shall come
Quando Judex When the judge
Dies irae, dies illa This day, this day of wrath
Dies irae, dies illa This day, this day of wrath


Tuba mirum spargens sonum The trumpet, scattering its awful sound
Per sepulchra regionum Across the graves of all lands
Coget omnes ante thronum. Summons all before the throne.
Mors stupebit et natura, Death and nature shall be stunned
Cum resurget creatura, When mankind arises
Judicanti responsura. To render account before the judge.

I think those are the lyrics but I am not to sure about it though. If anyone knows latin then i am sure they could help out more.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-07-18 00:00:00
does anyone know the lyrics to phoenix rises?

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2007-07-09 00:00:00
X-Men: The Last Stand Complete Score Breakdown:

www.johnpowellcomposer.com/features_xmenscorebreakdown01.htm

Every cue, every change and even choir lyrics! :)

Nash reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-07 00:00:00
I meant the track list and covers

Nash reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-07 00:00:00
Antas

Are you gonna release the the complete score with covers soon??

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2007-02-21 00:00:00
lavad, as I wrote below:

''The reason behind this (the main titles sounding different) was that they had to do some emergency recording sessions to get the music done for the films release.

Powell had more time to work on the CD release, so the overall result, while different, is better. ''

lavad reply Replies: 0 || 2007-02-21 00:00:00
Sorry, I´m from Czech Rep. and I can´t speak very good english, but John Powel is Great Composer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love his soundtrack X3: The Last Stand, the best is Dark Phoenix´s Tragedy and Phoenix Rises..............and Bathroom Titles. But I have a question: Why is the Bathroom Titles in the Movie different from soundtrack??? In the Movie is fast and best ;-)!

osman reply Replies: 0 || 2006-12-30 00:00:00
çok güzel saolun

peter reply Replies: 0 || 2006-11-19 00:00:00
why isnt the film version of the main titles on this cd - that has to be one of the best main title themes ever

teoperseo reply Replies: 0 || 2006-11-17 00:00:00
I not Speack english....bat powell is very big

Angel reply Replies: 0 || 2006-10-03 00:00:00
Im a hip hop and regeaton lover but track 26 beautiful

Ant reply Replies: 0 || 2006-08-13 00:00:00
From what I've heard, a fair amount of the first half of the film sounds different on the CD release.

The reason behind this was that they had to do some emergency recording sessions to get the music done for the films release.

Powell had more time to work on the CD release, so the overall result, while different, is better.

Hello Kitty reply Replies: 0 || 2006-07-04 00:00:00
Jean Grey/Phoenix/Dark Phoenix's theme music for X3 is easily the best not only in this movie but the entire trilogy! Especially the version from Whirlpool of Love, Phoenix Rises and Dark Phoenix's Tragedy.

"La La LaLa Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... LaLaLaaaaaaaaaa.... LaLaLaLaLaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.... DuDu Duuu Duuuuu...

La LaLaaaaaa Laaaaaaaaaaaaa.... La La Laaaaaaaaaa..... LaLaLaLaLaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaa...."

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