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The #balfeness !!!! Has outdone himself on Bad Boys for Life.<br>A nod to the last but brought it up to date.<br>This and 6 Underground has blown me away with Balfe’s musici can't understand, when someone is saying "it REMINDS of mw2" when those mentioned cues are completely re-used 1:1. it's identical, sometimes layered with mancinas themes. it doesn't just remind you of mw2 when lorne seriously uses the identical tracks or parts from mw2 -_-<br><br>@bayhem: then listen to it. i'm not a fan of lorne, but his work there is real fun and some real good action cues. with the themes of Zimmer, it's crazy that it's just a game. one of or maybe THE best work of lorne!Colleague of mine (a film score fan too) asked me which new Balfe score is better in my opinion - Bad Boys for Life or 6 Underground?<br><br>Honestly - and as much as I praised BB3 - I couldn't decide......<br><br><br>Both movies have a lot of songs, which is something I don't like. Look at Transformers. There are songs too but they don't overshadow the score. The score is still the star and that's why people flood Steve's Twitter with praise. Day after day. <br><br>But sadly for Lorne, his recent work in film WAS indeed overshadowed by the random songs. If they didn't rely on songs so much, I'm sure that 6 Underground would've been the crown jewel for Lorne. It's a big, big movie that begs for equally big and memorable score (though we can't really expect Transformners-syze score). <br><br>At the end of the day, Lorne did good on 6 Underground but it was just a small sign of what COULD have been.....Some of the action bits, yeah......This right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...<br>....................<br><br><br>It's bigger than that.....<br><br>After all, this is a Bruckheimer production. His movies established Hans and the entire MV/RC sound. His movies are known for their awesome scores. Scores that are populrar with the ordinary viewers as well.  But 2008 onward, things changed.....Back in the 90's and early 2000's every single Bruckheimer film had a spectacular score. Powerful, melodic themes, cues that stayed with you, scores that attracted the attention of the average Joe. <br><br>Nowadays tho, we don't have that. Hell, when was the last time a (newer) action score from MV/RC-related composer was praised the way 'The Rock' was praised?<br><br>Lorne's Mission Impossible? No. Not even close. <br><br><br>Personally, I like what Lorne did with BB3, especially with the emotional cues. But put it next to Mancina's work. I mean it's not even a contest. The Mancina score is one memorable, melodic track after another. There's not a single boring track. Every track is a banger. <br><br>But the newer scores? They have two or three tracks that are  good and everything else is.......utterly forgettable.<br><br>I blame it on the lack of themes. Orchestra or not, more scores need to have actual themes.
Some cues sound like Speed 2Guess I'm the only person around here who hasn't listened to the Modern Warfare 2 score. So I can't really have an opinion on this matter..... lolThis right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...Everyone keep mentionning mw2 but those drums reminded me of...skylanders giants lol! Just listen to the track « Arena battle » and let me knowThe clips are on his Facebook page.
2/5 stars? Why are people hating on this?Me tooExcited!!!God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)
"It's good shit lieutenant" The principle is based on Thomas Newman's Bond.  "Take back what's ours" and "the truth" is Ad astrahonnestly, I do get why people refer to MW2, but to be honest, it's not the same.  With the amount of time I heard that score, I can say that it uses the same drums, and a pattern that is quite similar to the one used in MW2, but it is not a copy/paste.  It's no different to me than Junkie XL re-using the same pattern of drum in all of his recent scores since Mad Max.  When it comes from the same composer, I guess it's normal to have works that parts that similar from a score to another.  Just think of John Murphy who re-use his powerful theme from Sunshine in a lot of his scores (28 weeks later, kick-ass, etc).   <br><br>Actually I'm quite glad he re-used the themes from Mancina as that was, to me at least, a big miss for BB2 even though Rabin and Jablonsky did a great job.  It's like doing a James Bond movie without the Bond theme.  It might be good, but it miss the little something that gel everything together. ;)  I really like what Lorne did on this one.  Even though he re-used the theme, he made them his own, in a similar way he did with MI Fallout, while sometime paying homage to the original ones. ;)  My 2 cents.Not really familiar with either Mancina’s BB score or MW2, but I’m really enjoying this. It’s like an old-school MV score filtered through Lorne’s sound. The main tune (which I’m guessing is Mancina’s) is a lot of fun, particularly when paired with the choir. <br><br>And as for Ad Astra, the villain motif in “Take Back What’s Ours” sounds like it was directly lifted from the space scenes of that score.can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?
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X-Men - The Last Stand
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  1. 20 Years Ago (1:10)
    John Powell
  2. Bathroom Titles (1:09)
    John Powell
  3. The Church Of Magneto‚ Raven Is My Slave Name (2:40)
    John Powell, James McKee Smith
  4. Meet Leech‚ Then Off To The Lake (2:37)
    John Powell
  5. Whirlpool Of Love (2:04)
    John Powell
  6. Examining Jean (1:12)
    John Powell
  7. Dark Phoenix (1:28)
    John Powell
  8. Angel's Cure (2:34)
    John Powell
  9. Jean And Logan (1:39)
    John Powell
  10. Dark Phoenix Awakes (1:45)
    John Powell
  11. Rejection Is Never Easy (1:09)
    John Powell
  12. Magneto Plots (2:05)
    John Powell
  13. Entering The House (1:18)
    John Powell
  14. Dark Phoenix's Tragedy (3:18)
    John Powell
  15. Farewell To X (0:30)
    John Powell
  16. The Funeral (2:52)
    John Powell
  17. Skating On The Pond (1:12)
    John Powell, John Ashton Thomas
  18. Cure Wars (2:57)
    John Powell, John Ashton Thomas
  19. Fight In The Woods (3:06)
    John Powell
  20. St. Lupus Day (3:03)
    John Powell, John Ashton Thomas
  21. Building Bridges (1:16)
    John Powell
  22. Shock And No Oars (1:15)
    John Powell
  23. Attack On Alcatraz (4:36)
    John Powell
  24. Massacre (0:31)
    John Powell, James McKee Smith
  25. The Battle Of The Cure (4:20)
    John Powell, James McKee Smith
  26. Phoenix Rises (4:21)
    John Powell
  27. The Last Stand (5:29)
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alfred reply Replies: 2 || 2006-05-18 00:00:00
Interesting... A Superman Return's track was included in X3 soundtrack? ahahahah (I'm joking, but track 2 is very similar to Superman's theme).
The whole album is quite good, but in my opinion Powell has to ride a long road before becoming a good composer! "Mediocre" is my opinion about this album.
Kamen & Ottman made better!


Henko2019-09-11 22:03:20
Damn, this is wrong on so many levels


ThePhantasm2019-09-13 20:07:00
The words mediocre is not something you use when talking about this score. Kamen score is good but not on this level, and Ottman doesn't even come close. But that's just my opinion

Mephariel reply Replies: 8 || 2018-01-25 22:23:06
Hans Zimmer scoring X-Men Dark Phoenix.

Welcome back to Superhero world.


mpolonest123 2018-01-25 22:32:38
Between this and LB doing Pacific Rim, I’m more than happy. I really doubt he’ll use Ottman’s X-theme but hopefully he be as creative here as he was with ASM2!


T-Mann0362018-01-26 01:18:47
I knew that Zimmer isn't gonna retire. His previous pictures, The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice were incredible. Welcome back to the Marvel and DC Universe, Hans.


Edmund Meinerts2018-01-26 12:36:46
Zimmer retires and unretires almost as much as Hayao Miyazaki!


M2018-01-26 14:56:08
This is going to be something amazing!


DT-20172018-01-26 16:43:31
Makes me wonder if Ottman just refused to do it. Though after his reported experience with BvS, I wonder what made Zimmer change his mind on this one.


Mephariel2018-01-26 18:14:36
Probably a much better script. Kinberg has said that this is a straight up drama/suspense movie. It is completely opposite of movies like BvS and X-Men: Apocalypse.


Radik2018-01-27 09:39:38
Hans said he is willing back to comics genre if the screenplay has its quality.


JBSO992018-01-27 11:46:15
This are great news! I was hoping that the retirement thing was just temporary, and luckily it was. His scores in superhero movies are always fantastic and I cannot wait to hear what he creates in this one.

Cameron reply Replies: 0 || 2018-01-26 17:54:34
They should have gotten Powell back.

Anthony reply Replies: 1 || 2007-10-19 00:00:00
Actually Krazie835, scratch that, the link's changed:

www.johnpowellcomposer.com/features_xmenbreakdown.htm


Lucahs2015-12-05 05:29:23
Please, this link is unavailable... Do you still remember the lyrics of "Phoenix Rises"?

dark prince reply Replies: 7 || 2014-02-01 05:23:23
"Why the producers never remember John Powell?". Is what I question to my self everytime outs a dissappointing superheroe score, like The Avengers by Alan Silvestri, John Powell did this great score for X-Men, and looks like nobody remember it, why John Powell never else did another superhero score (ok, it's Hancock, I know), but Joh Powell can do something else, to part of just excelent score for animated movies


Ds2014-02-01 12:49:00
Maybe they ask him every time and he's the one refusing these projects... He took a lot of time for himself/his family, maybe he's not as much a work-junkie as HZ is :-)

But these are pure speculations, we don't have a clue.

The essential thing is: a lot of people are missing John Powell and would be extremely happy to see him gloriously return. I hope he comes from time to time on this website and see all the love we have for him!


Mike2014-02-01 14:50:29
2015, guys—How To Train Your Dragon 2 and, presumably, the next John Williams Star Wars score! :D


MrZimmerFan2014-02-01 21:32:22
My favorite of Powell


dark prince2014-02-01 23:58:27
How to Train Your Dragon 2 is for 2014, I really want to hear this score, the first is a masterpiece by John Powell


Ds2014-02-02 00:44:54
Mike if there's one thing in 2015 i absolutely don't care about, it has to be that f#cking Star Wars movie, including its soundtrack. And i'm already tired of all the hype that's going to come over the next two years :D


Mike2014-02-02 03:39:19
lol....harsh. I can understand not caring about the movie, but the music, too???? :P Oh well, to each his own.


Edmund Meinerts2014-02-02 11:48:07
How can you not care about the opportunity to hear more Star Wars scores from John Williams?

phoenixxx reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-10 00:00:00
I do love this song! Exactly describes the soul of phoenix. But still, i hate the producers of XMEN because Jean WAS NOT supposed to die,wo phoenix and her, there is no reason to watch!

Edgar reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
Dark Phoenix's Tragedy & Phoenix Rises FTW!!

ahmet reply Replies: 0 || 2010-12-05 00:00:00
Very Good :)

dian.theeditors reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-20 00:00:00
good audio friends...

nova reply Replies: 0 || 2008-09-27 00:00:00
Rising Empire and Plague Burial are the trailer songs.. just in case anyone was wondering..

bushsbunnys reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-03 00:00:00
I LOVE phoenix rises!! I consider it my own personal theme, and I play it every morning to get my blood pumping! It is a better eye-opener than coffee WITH caffene! It's better than a 6-pack of red bulls! It's just so Goddessy-girl-powery-awe-inspiring-wowee-wow-wow!

Danny reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-07 00:00:00
I have to say...the "Phoenix Rises" is just too powerful for me to listen to without breaking down with tears in my eyes!!! I know every fan in here would agree with me! I'm not ashamed to admit my personal feelings for this particular score! It's just that every time that I hear "Phoenix Rises", it seems that every core inside my body is forcing its way through the pores of my skin!!! Unbelievably incredible film score by John Powell!!!

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-06 00:00:00
It's "Rising Empire" composed by these guys:

www.immediatemusic.com

Fox reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-06 00:00:00
What theme music is playing at the end of the x3 teaser and first trailer? adeo already asked, but no one answered

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-19 00:00:00
Krazie835, look at my post about the complete score breakdown. :)

Krazie835 reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-19 00:00:00
Dies irae, dies illa, This day, this day of wrath
Solvet saeclum in favilla: Shall consume the world in ashes,
Quando Judex est venturus When the judge shall come
Quando Judex When the judge
Dies irae, dies illa This day, this day of wrath
Dies irae, dies illa This day, this day of wrath


Tuba mirum spargens sonum The trumpet, scattering its awful sound
Per sepulchra regionum Across the graves of all lands
Coget omnes ante thronum. Summons all before the throne.
Mors stupebit et natura, Death and nature shall be stunned
Cum resurget creatura, When mankind arises
Judicanti responsura. To render account before the judge.

I think those are the lyrics but I am not to sure about it though. If anyone knows latin then i am sure they could help out more.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-07-18 00:00:00
does anyone know the lyrics to phoenix rises?

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2007-07-09 00:00:00
X-Men: The Last Stand Complete Score Breakdown:

www.johnpowellcomposer.com/features_xmenscorebreakdown01.htm

Every cue, every change and even choir lyrics! :)

Nash reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-07 00:00:00
I meant the track list and covers

Nash reply Replies: 0 || 2007-05-07 00:00:00
Antas

Are you gonna release the the complete score with covers soon??

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2007-02-21 00:00:00
lavad, as I wrote below:

''The reason behind this (the main titles sounding different) was that they had to do some emergency recording sessions to get the music done for the films release.

Powell had more time to work on the CD release, so the overall result, while different, is better. ''

lavad reply Replies: 0 || 2007-02-21 00:00:00
Sorry, I´m from Czech Rep. and I can´t speak very good english, but John Powel is Great Composer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love his soundtrack X3: The Last Stand, the best is Dark Phoenix´s Tragedy and Phoenix Rises..............and Bathroom Titles. But I have a question: Why is the Bathroom Titles in the Movie different from soundtrack??? In the Movie is fast and best ;-)!

osman reply Replies: 0 || 2006-12-30 00:00:00
çok güzel saolun

peter reply Replies: 0 || 2006-11-19 00:00:00
why isnt the film version of the main titles on this cd - that has to be one of the best main title themes ever

teoperseo reply Replies: 0 || 2006-11-17 00:00:00
I not Speack english....bat powell is very big

Angel reply Replies: 0 || 2006-10-03 00:00:00
Im a hip hop and regeaton lover but track 26 beautiful

Ant reply Replies: 0 || 2006-08-13 00:00:00
From what I've heard, a fair amount of the first half of the film sounds different on the CD release.

The reason behind this was that they had to do some emergency recording sessions to get the music done for the films release.

Powell had more time to work on the CD release, so the overall result, while different, is better.

Hello Kitty reply Replies: 0 || 2006-07-04 00:00:00
Jean Grey/Phoenix/Dark Phoenix's theme music for X3 is easily the best not only in this movie but the entire trilogy! Especially the version from Whirlpool of Love, Phoenix Rises and Dark Phoenix's Tragedy.

"La La LaLa Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... LaLaLaaaaaaaaaa.... LaLaLaLaLaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.... DuDu Duuu Duuuuu...

La LaLaaaaaa Laaaaaaaaaaaaa.... La La Laaaaaaaaaa..... LaLaLaLaLaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaa...."

adeo reply Replies: 0 || 2006-07-03 00:00:00
Quick Question to any one out there who might know this. What theme music is playing at the end of x 3's teaser and first trailer? N-E info on that would be great.

-Adeo

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