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I feel like this is simultaneously the most enjoyable and least interesting Zimmer score of the last several years. It's nice to listen to, but it's basically the 1994 score rerecorded and tweaked in just a few places. Those tweaks do produce some highlights especially in the stampede and final battle sequences, but it's hard to think of this as a major effort, really. Yeah, it's good, but we've known that The Lion King is good for 25 years.I seriously don't understand why they didn't do two separate releases like most musicals do (La La Land comes to mind - perfect release). <br><br>A soundtrack album and a score album. No missing tracks, no fuss. And optional 2-CD set containing both.<br><br>Instead, they went with a soundtrack album with some of the score and another song album for whatever reason that is lol.The second half of the new "Elephant Graveyard" is basically note for note "I Was Just Trying to Be Brave" from the 1994 version as well, just with a few changes in orchestrationThis is only HGW's score, a good chunk of it was rejected.Wonder if it will take 20 years for an official complete score XD Not to mention any unofficial leaks (it took a long time to even get that for the original film). TBH, I'd prefer a proper release of any score any day of the week.<br><br>To answer the question above me: Mostly it's new material using the same themes from 1994, though if my interpretation the OST is correct, the hyenas and Timon and Pumbaa get new themes. The only true 'copies' of music from 1994 are Circle of Life and Remember, but even then, they are at least partially-new recordings.
Do we know who wrote what?Is it all material from 1994 or is it new 2019 score?I confirm I'm back from it, there's quite a bit of unreleased score.Well, now we have somebody who's seen it (and yes, it's out in some countries today), we know for certain.<br><br>I wouldn't expect anything official any time soon unless Zimmer wants to release a second CD.I absolutely love Kai’s theme in this score, there are so many cool variations that weren’t on the initial album. Hans and Co. really stepped up their game here. I don’t feel the temp as heavily here as KFP2 (which is still an amazing sequel score).
Saw the film today, there is a LOT of music missing.As stupid as this film is, you can tell Tom probably had fun working on it. The music is so over the top, it just goes nuts all the way through.This is one of those scores that I have really warmed up to since it’s release. The emotional stuff for Alita works really well in context and her “Hero Theme” gets some great development (the way it culminates in “Epilogue” is incredible). Also really love the “Motorball” stuff. <br><br>After seeing the film I think the only substantial music not on the album is “Motorball Plan” and “Alita’s Revenge Pt. 1”. The end credits piece I’m guessing is edited from the Full Motorball Suite.Hybrid, did Lorne actually do a lot of writing on this one or is he just being credited for the theme?We've had this argument before, almost any score can fit in a film. But what separates the mediocre composers from the best is the ability to make great music that works on its own, outside of the film. <br><br>Hans has had a lot of work lately that hasn't been doing that, and it's the reason people want him to work with orchestra again and produce is 2000s, late 90s type of style. Because those scores, for whatever problems they had, they felt distinct, memorable (for the most part), and easily could have been enjoyed away from the film.<br><br>Good scores have themes and ideas that both enhance the film, and enhance the listener's experience. Music like Dunkirk, Inferno, or Widows just feel like shallow and empty committee scores that the studio/directors didn't want too much thought put into. "Ah just write one main theme, and fill in the rest with electronics, Hans, it'll be fine!"
Hahahahaha well I’m glad he got the credit then :DI absolutely disagree with you saying Widows is a terrible score. It may not be great on album, but the music fits very well with the film.Actually, I think he only gets credits cause he is the guy... whistling ! :PElectric violinJust out of curiosity... what instrument is playing when Liv and Ben are running towards each other at the end? (Long Distance Goodbye/Landing? I love that instrument!
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John PowellGavin GreenawayRyeland AllisonHans Zimmer
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional ArrangementsScore Producer
Face/Off (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 128'12
HZimmer.com rating:        4/5
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CD1
  1. The Merry-Go-Round (5:17)
  2. Airport Chase (6:24)
  3. Hangar Shootout (4:48)
  4. I Got Him, Eve (0:57)
  5. Case Closed (1:00)
  6. Sinclair Revealed (1:33)
  7. The Black Bag Operation (5:57)
  8. One Last Assignment (1:28)
  9. Face Lift - Madness (4:45)
  10. The Clock's Ticking (0:18)
  11. Erewhon Prison (2:16)
  12. Prison Fight (3:08)
  13. Casto Awakens (1:57)
  14. Unexpected Visito (3:16)
  15. Sean Attacks Castor (1:27)
  16. Castor In The Suburbs (1:27)
  17. Pollux Gets Released (1:05)
  18. Castor Disarms The Bomb (1:30)
  19. Sean's Breakdown (1:29)
  20. I Need A Light (1:34)
  21. Prison Escape (5:19)
  22. Mikey's Grave (3:50)
  23. Refuge At Dietrichs (2:30)
  24. The Golden Guns (0:29)
  25. Face... Off (2:22)
  26. No More Drugs For That Man (1:18)
CD2
  1. The Knife (2:23)
  2. Castor's Son (2:45)
  3. Attack On The Loft (Part 1) (2:47)
  4. Attack On The Loft (Part 2) (0:44)
  5. Castor Shoot Dietrich (0:43)
  6. Bye, Bye Pollux (3:00)
  7. Brotherly Love (1:18)
  8. Lazarro Dies (1:05)
  9. Sean Goes Home (1:43)
  10. Castor And Eve (1:13)
  11. Eve Learns The Truth (2:12)
  12. Our First Date (2:30)
  13. Castor At The Hospital (0:37)
  14. Sean's Move (1:29)
  15. Lazarro's Funeral (2:37)
  16. Standoff (2:50)
  17. The Garden (4:06)
  18. Boat Chase (4:20)
  19. Ready For The Big Ride, Bubba (3:25)
  20. Homecoming (3:07)
  21. Airport Chase (Alternate) (6:26)
  22. Hangar Shootout (Alternate) (4:48)
  23. Champers (Unused) (1:03)
  24. Rape Car Sourse (Unused) (0:53)
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SPECTER reply Replies: 3 || 2018-05-17 03:52:59
Hi guys, can anyone recommend some highlights from this soundtrack. Would appreciate it thank you!


Edmund Meinerts2018-05-17 08:28:28
If we're talking about the complete score, then

The Merry-Go-Round of Life
Airport Chase
Escape
Mikey's Grave
Boat Chase
Homecoming

is a good sampler of the absolute highlights to get you started. "Homecoming" (called "Ready for the Big Ride, Bubba" on the album release even though a different cue has that name on the complete score) is actually a really beautiful cue, one of my favorites from Powell.


Mephariel2018-05-17 17:32:03
The action cue "Escape" is easily one of my favorite from Powell. And the final cue for the scene right before the ending is absolutely beautiful. Face/Off is actually my favorite Powell score I think.


SPECTER2018-05-17 20:46:40
Thanks guys, will check out these cues.

Bayhem reply Replies: 2 || 2018-05-15 08:54:24
Honestly, I still can't believe that this is a Powell score. It's a classic Zimmer from start to finish. There are no credits here, so I wonder - is there more to this story? Was Hans really *just* a score producer. Or he actually did a lot.....?


Edmund Meinerts2018-05-15 09:19:59
Gavin Greenaway did a lot of additional work on this, which is probably why it ends up having such a heavy classic mid-90s MV sound to it (same year Greenaway worked on The Peacemaker, which kind of shows). But the quieter portions are genuine Powell to my ears, and if you listen to some of his more obscure work from around this time (stuff like his Director's Cuts cues, Human Bomb, High Incident, D-Tox which came out in 2002 but was composed a few years earlier I think) you'll get more of a frame of reference for what Powell sounded like back when he was just another cog in the MV machine and hadn't developed his own sound yet. Face/Off doesn't really sound like "Powell" as we know him now, but it also doesn't sound like genuine Zimmer at any point either.

FWIW, I have the following cues listed as co-composed by Greenaway, but I don't remember where exactly I got this information from so take it with a grain of salt:

Airport Chase
Erewhon Prison
Castor Disarms the Bomb
Mikey's Grave
Refuge at Dietrich's
The Golden Guns
Face...Off
Attack on the Loft (Part 1)
Attack on the Loft (Part 2)
Castor Shoots Dietrich
Bye Bye Pollux
Brotherly Love
Lazarro Dies
Standoff
The Garden


Bayhem2018-05-15 09:44:42
Gavin Greenaway did a lot of additional work on this
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Yes, absolutely. With this and The Peacemaker, Greenaway really showed some great composer skills. He should've had a bigger career. He deserves it.



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But the quieter portions are genuine Powell to my ears, and if you listen to some of his more obscure work from around this time (stuff like his Director's Cuts cues, Human Bomb, High Incident, D-Tox which came out in 2002 but was composed a few years earlier I think) you'll get more of a frame of reference for what Powell sounded like back when he was just another cog in the MV machine and hadn't developed his own sound yet
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Now that I think about it, you're right about the quieter moments in Face Off.

D-Tox is actually one of my all-time favorite scores and there are indeed some similarities between that score and Face Off. Very much a Powell sound. I guess with Face Off I was a little bit too focused on the choir bits (classic Zimmer approach) and the wild action tracks.



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Face/Off doesn't really sound like "Powell" as we know him now, but it also doesn't sound like genuine Zimmer at any point either.
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Well, some parts in the ending during Lazzaro's funeral feel feel very Zimmer-ish to me. Some cues during the boat and airport chase scenes as well. As for Powell, yes, you're right. This score really sticks out in his filmography. With the exception of certain tracks and cues (in D-Tox for example) he's never really done another score like Face Off.


Well, maybe Chill Factor......lol.

Damien, Moderator reply Replies: 2 || 2010-09-20 00:00:00
Look at bottom of this page (or perhaps on next page as it will not be long before going to) at my post from 28/11/2007


Jesper2015-10-16 11:43:25
Soo, Damien, I was thinking... I actually have this score. Would it be alright I if decided to upload it to youtube for instance, so all these fans could have a chance to enjoy it as well? I mean, if it hasn't been officially released anyway, it's not like you're losing any money because of it. Otherwise I wouldn't have asked.


Damien, Moderator2015-10-17 02:40:08
Soo, Jesper you are publically telling you stole something...
And if you do not understand this, I can difficultly learn you what current laws are about intellectual properties rights.

MasterZ reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-21 02:07:50
I pulled a Giacchino, track 1: The Not So Merry Go Round ;0

One of my favorite tracks in face

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2012-10-19 14:34:18
why has gavin greenaway's name been removed and it now says additional music by geoff zanelli?

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-19 00:00:00
maybe if you used a certain search engine......

Andre reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-19 00:00:00
Hi!

I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want to know how or where I can buy this CD set. It is a great action movie and soundtrack and would love to these scores.

Look forward to hearing back from you.

Thanks,
Andre

anoop reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-10 00:00:00
superrrrrrrrr

rahul reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-26 00:00:00
thank you very much

tito reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-21 00:00:00
thanks

amr reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-11 00:00:00
thanks

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-23 00:00:00
The combination of Powell, Greenaway, and Zanelli was spot-on! Greenaway scoring action music is always a plus

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-12 00:00:00
CJ, "The Carrusel - On" was in fact a cue somebody added to the original 50 tracks complete score. It was "The Merry-Go-Round" followed by the "Alleluia" song featured at the beginning of the movie (but not part of Powell's score) - nothing new !

Geoff Zanelli didn't composed any cue, but was more like the assistant of Powell who helped him to complete some cues. As for Greenaway, he worked on the following cues for sure : Erewhon Prison, Bye Bye Pollux, Lazarro Dies, Standoff, The Garden... And I heard (no confirmation) that he did the Attack on the Loft cues.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-11 00:00:00
What tracks did Greenaway and Zanelli compose?

CJ reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-15 00:00:00
What happened to "The Carrusel - On" list on the "promo" Film score tray, the last track listed - (6:37)? I managed to locate the Face Off (Complete Score) OST [John Powell] but this track was not among the 50 included. Is it just me or was the selection removed for some unknown reason? Thanks in advance for any feedback!

FaceOffFan reply Replies: 0 || 2008-12-24 00:00:00
I'm sorry, but this is bullsh*t. The official soundtrack release has 8 songs? 8? Are you serious? And that's GOOD ENOUGH? I guess you just don't appreciate music like I do, I suppose. When I see that they have 2 CD's full of the music from my favorite film and NO WAY to hear it (other than watching the film), I get upset. Legal, illegal, I don't care. I just want to be able to listen to these tracks and enjoy the music, instead of making due with 8 songs....That's a smack in the face of the fans. #######

Sega reply Replies: 0 || 2008-10-25 00:00:00
good

HanZfan reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-08 00:00:00
I agree... I hoped they would have put a score out for this movie many years ago, which they didn't. And you have this, but no way for us to listen to it or buy it.

Remembering the music from the movie, it was a great score. But if there was some way to buy this at some point or buy the mp3s at least, that would be great.

Do you know if that will be possible? If so, when? I think I speak for many here when I say, we'd like to have these songs/soundtrack.

nicole reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-14 00:00:00
thanks

joe d reply Replies: 0 || 2008-03-02 00:00:00
I wish there was a way to get the longer version of the piano theme in hans' loft

Robert Monsivaiz reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-13 00:00:00
I didn't think this existed. But it looks AWESOME compared to the official soundtrack release! 8D

Falconet reply Replies: 0 || 2007-12-31 00:00:00
Geoff Zanelli : synths recording :P

Damien, Moderator reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-28 00:00:00
This CD cannot be bought as all bootleg releases (if you do not know what a bootleg is, look at wikipedia).
If you want the Face Off soundtrack, you can look at this one:
http://www.hans-zimmer.com/fr/disco_detail.php?id=87

Maria do Carmo reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-28 00:00:00
Where can I find the CD to buy in internet?

Thanks

Dasius reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-16 00:00:00
How are you going to tell us to rate it and then not tell us how to listen to it? Where can we find the full CDs? After I listen to it then I'll rate it.

fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-30 00:00:00
Definelty the best soundtrack of John Powell! Thank Hans (broken arrow) and Gavin (the peacemaker).

Naweel reply Replies: 0 || 2006-11-28 00:00:00
To Antas
Hi, I was wondering if this kind og music is bootleg which means it is not relesed then how come are there so many bottlegs which are not ment to be realesed but someone hs it. Why does somone has the music while other dont? Bootlegs are not meant to be realesed but they still pop up. How come?? I my self have a lot of bootlegs fomr mediaventutr composers but i have been waiting for this album for years but no one has it or uploads it. I have also tried to become a member of this page but i cant for some reason.
And I was wonderng did you write the music for the contender or was t just your version, either way it was great.
Thanks for any answers you might give
Bye
I will check back to see in case you replied

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2006-11-24 00:00:00
Reuben Lane, in answer to your question:

Producing a CD required certain costs to be paid in the first place for production, publicity etc.

Sometimes composers don't think it's worth it because maybe not enough people are after all their material.

However now with digital downloads removing these costs, complete scores are more likely. :)

Reuben Lane reply Replies: 0 || 2006-09-09 00:00:00
Why in the world do you let people make money off of bootlegs when you could release this same music and make the money yourself and make this music more accessable??

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