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What was the reason of their swap? Why did Hans Zimmer quit Kigdom of HeavenHybrid wrote somewhere here that something happened between Streitenfeld and Ridley during Prometheus,and that was why HG-W was brought on for some rescoringI was wondering about this too. Like all of a sudden, after a couple of Ridley Scott collaborations, he disappeared.Streitenfeld's score for "All I See Is You" isn't added to this site. Does it mean, that Marc left the company?Extremely pleased with the release, remastering, and liner booklet notes.  Nice to finally have all of this music.  Sure, some things could have been done differently, like anything else.  I'll be enjoying a thorough listen this weekend, and may watch the film again, as it's been years.
Jasha just released a neat little piano album!<br>Go check it out: https://itunes.apple .com/no/album/time-lapse-ep/1452867752My only real gripes left with the score is the somewhat uninspired choral writing (and the fact that the choir sounds like samples in a lot of moments) and the reused percussion samples from every JXL action score ever since Mad Max.After repeated listens of the score and seeing the film 3 times, I'd say now that the score is MUCH better than I initially gave it credit for.<br>Alita's theme (the 4 notes first heard at 1:53 in A Discovery) is used many times throughout the score in many instrumental varieties and variations, and used to great effect in emotional scenes<br>(I Don't Even Know My Own Name, What's Your Dream?, In Time You'll Remember, With Me, I'd Give You My Heart, What Did You Do), In the Clouds especially)<br>And do yourself a favor and get I See Church from somewhere, it's the 2nd best action track of the score after Motorball.<br>--------------------<br>In short, I would now give it a 4.5 / 5 from my previous 3 / 5Hybrid, what's the story with Finale vs. Safe Now? On this page Finale is listed as Jackman and Zimmer. On the OST page, it's Jackman, Zimmer, & Jasha Klebe. The two versions are different too. Finale has a longer intro and a big outro that makes the Time thing even more obvious. So are they two different tracks with different credits, or is Safe Now just Finale clipped short?Oh man, that's a tough question...I haven't listened to Curse of the Black Pearl in a while.... He's credited on almost every track for themes used... "Fog Bound" is the big Klaus Badelt cue from that movie (the real, 5-minute one in the movie is pretty much all Klaus I believe). <br><br>But Hans appears almost everywhere in POTC 1. Sometimes it's arrangements of his themes by the other guys, sometimes it's parts of the tunes that he wrote put directly in like he wrote them... The following scenes are pretty much directly Hans, if I remember right (this is the list I'm referencing ó but as you can see, Zimmer's name is almost everywhere hans-zimmer . com/index.php?rub=disco&id=1128): <br><br>3. Captain Jack Sparrow (Hans wrote the big theme here, as well as the Jack Sparrow stuff at the end)<br>8. Breaking the Chains (more Jack Sparrow theme...) <br>17. Boarding the Dauntless (Jack Sparrow theme...)<br>24. Moonlight Serenade (Zimmer said he wrote this scene like Cinderella walking into a Metallica concert)<br> <br>Aaaaand a lot of the final fighting music is lifted directly out of the suite Zimmer wrote, so it's 90% him. But once again, his themes as arranged by other people appear everywhere. Hybrid can answer way more about all this than I can.<br>
Oh wow! Thatís all really interesting. So how much of the OST is really HAnS Zimmer then???Hans was composing The Last Samurai while the first POTC was being made. He had promised Tom Cruise and Edward Zwick (might have even signed a contract) that he would only work on The Last Samurai and no other movies at that time. So while Hans agreed to write the POTC themes for Gore Verbinski, he wasn't allowed to be credited due to his obligations to the Last Samurai. So he wrote a few themes and then handed the score off to Klaus Badelt, who got the "name" credit on the score. But the whole score is really Klaus, Geoff Zanelli, Nick Glennie Smith, Ramin Djawadi, and a few others doing arrangements of the theme that Hans wrote (and Hans writing for a couple scenes incognito, like when Elizabeth first sees the skeleton pirates). Then Klaus did do the dark "Fog Bound/Underwater March" tune, as mentioned.Canít insult me! I am genuinely curious. Whatís this about The Last Samurai???I'm not saying this to insult David, but it's funny to me that even now, 16 years later, after so many clarifications from HZ and others, people still get confused because of the way POTC 1 got credited. All because Hans had to work on The Last Samurai (which is one of my favorite scores of his, so I guess it was worth the confusion).Saw the film last sunday and loved it. Also loved what Tom Holkenborg did hear. It did not felt nor 300. RoE nor Mad MAx. It's something else and loved it how it worked in context.
he is working on the new Terminator movie?! :OCredits for Dua Lipa's single "Swan Song" for the movie:<br>Written by Dua Lipa, Justin Tranter, Kennedi Lykken, Mattias Larsson, Robin Fredriksson & Tom Holkenborg<br>Produced by Mattman & RobinMy definition of a Complete score is somewhat different. My goal is to find and mix everything you hear in the movie. Some things you find, others you don't. That's always an adventure in itself.<br><br>The source cues are not hard to find, sometimes it can be tricky to find the right performance/conductor.<br><br>In the case of TTRL, it's mostly the Beam cues that are difficult to find. Francesco Lupica wrote several pieces of Beam cues specifically for the movie, 5 of them which were used. There's also the 'Concerto for Beam' written by Powell, and there's the 'Sit back & Relax' album that was used. So to me, that's a pretty substantial (and important!) amount of music  that made it into the cut, which hardly anyone ever talks about.<br><br>Anyway, maybe a future project will tackle most of these issues.So he's scoring that and the new terminator? Damn dude's getting as busy as Henry JackmanUnless they're composed by Zimmer or someone else from RCP, I wouldn't expect source cues to appear here. And there's like two tracks with Beam in the title listed, so what else would have that name?
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John PowellGavin GreenawayRyeland AllisonHans Zimmer
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional ArrangementsScore Producer
Face/Off (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 128'12
HZimmer.com rating:        4/5
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CD1
  1. The Merry-Go-Round (5:17)
  2. Airport Chase (6:24)
  3. Hangar Shootout (4:48)
  4. I Got Him, Eve (0:57)
  5. Case Closed (1:00)
  6. Sinclair Revealed (1:33)
  7. The Black Bag Operation (5:57)
  8. One Last Assignment (1:28)
  9. Face Lift - Madness (4:45)
  10. The Clock's Ticking (0:18)
  11. Erewhon Prison (2:16)
  12. Prison Fight (3:08)
  13. Casto Awakens (1:57)
  14. Unexpected Visito (3:16)
  15. Sean Attacks Castor (1:27)
  16. Castor In The Suburbs (1:27)
  17. Pollux Gets Released (1:05)
  18. Castor Disarms The Bomb (1:30)
  19. Sean's Breakdown (1:29)
  20. I Need A Light (1:34)
  21. Prison Escape (5:19)
  22. Mikey's Grave (3:50)
  23. Refuge At Dietrichs (2:30)
  24. The Golden Guns (0:29)
  25. Face... Off (2:22)
  26. No More Drugs For That Man (1:18)
CD2
  1. The Knife (2:23)
  2. Castor's Son (2:45)
  3. Attack On The Loft (Part 1) (2:47)
  4. Attack On The Loft (Part 2) (0:44)
  5. Castor Shoot Dietrich (0:43)
  6. Bye, Bye Pollux (3:00)
  7. Brotherly Love (1:18)
  8. Lazarro Dies (1:05)
  9. Sean Goes Home (1:43)
  10. Castor And Eve (1:13)
  11. Eve Learns The Truth (2:12)
  12. Our First Date (2:30)
  13. Castor At The Hospital (0:37)
  14. Sean's Move (1:29)
  15. Lazarro's Funeral (2:37)
  16. Standoff (2:50)
  17. The Garden (4:06)
  18. Boat Chase (4:20)
  19. Ready For The Big Ride, Bubba (3:25)
  20. Homecoming (3:07)
  21. Airport Chase (Alternate) (6:26)
  22. Hangar Shootout (Alternate) (4:48)
  23. Champers (Unused) (1:03)
  24. Rape Car Sourse (Unused) (0:53)
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SPECTER reply Replies: 3 || 2018-05-17 03:52:59
Hi guys, can anyone recommend some highlights from this soundtrack. Would appreciate it thank you!


Edmund Meinerts2018-05-17 08:28:28
If we're talking about the complete score, then

The Merry-Go-Round of Life
Airport Chase
Escape
Mikey's Grave
Boat Chase
Homecoming

is a good sampler of the absolute highlights to get you started. "Homecoming" (called "Ready for the Big Ride, Bubba" on the album release even though a different cue has that name on the complete score) is actually a really beautiful cue, one of my favorites from Powell.


Mephariel2018-05-17 17:32:03
The action cue "Escape" is easily one of my favorite from Powell. And the final cue for the scene right before the ending is absolutely beautiful. Face/Off is actually my favorite Powell score I think.


SPECTER2018-05-17 20:46:40
Thanks guys, will check out these cues.

Bayhem reply Replies: 2 || 2018-05-15 08:54:24
Honestly, I still can't believe that this is a Powell score. It's a classic Zimmer from start to finish. There are no credits here, so I wonder - is there more to this story? Was Hans really *just* a score producer. Or he actually did a lot.....?


Edmund Meinerts2018-05-15 09:19:59
Gavin Greenaway did a lot of additional work on this, which is probably why it ends up having such a heavy classic mid-90s MV sound to it (same year Greenaway worked on The Peacemaker, which kind of shows). But the quieter portions are genuine Powell to my ears, and if you listen to some of his more obscure work from around this time (stuff like his Director's Cuts cues, Human Bomb, High Incident, D-Tox which came out in 2002 but was composed a few years earlier I think) you'll get more of a frame of reference for what Powell sounded like back when he was just another cog in the MV machine and hadn't developed his own sound yet. Face/Off doesn't really sound like "Powell" as we know him now, but it also doesn't sound like genuine Zimmer at any point either.

FWIW, I have the following cues listed as co-composed by Greenaway, but I don't remember where exactly I got this information from so take it with a grain of salt:

Airport Chase
Erewhon Prison
Castor Disarms the Bomb
Mikey's Grave
Refuge at Dietrich's
The Golden Guns
Face...Off
Attack on the Loft (Part 1)
Attack on the Loft (Part 2)
Castor Shoots Dietrich
Bye Bye Pollux
Brotherly Love
Lazarro Dies
Standoff
The Garden


Bayhem2018-05-15 09:44:42
Gavin Greenaway did a lot of additional work on this
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Yes, absolutely. With this and The Peacemaker, Greenaway really showed some great composer skills. He should've had a bigger career. He deserves it.



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But the quieter portions are genuine Powell to my ears, and if you listen to some of his more obscure work from around this time (stuff like his Director's Cuts cues, Human Bomb, High Incident, D-Tox which came out in 2002 but was composed a few years earlier I think) you'll get more of a frame of reference for what Powell sounded like back when he was just another cog in the MV machine and hadn't developed his own sound yet
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Now that I think about it, you're right about the quieter moments in Face Off.

D-Tox is actually one of my all-time favorite scores and there are indeed some similarities between that score and Face Off. Very much a Powell sound. I guess with Face Off I was a little bit too focused on the choir bits (classic Zimmer approach) and the wild action tracks.



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Face/Off doesn't really sound like "Powell" as we know him now, but it also doesn't sound like genuine Zimmer at any point either.
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Well, some parts in the ending during Lazzaro's funeral feel feel very Zimmer-ish to me. Some cues during the boat and airport chase scenes as well. As for Powell, yes, you're right. This score really sticks out in his filmography. With the exception of certain tracks and cues (in D-Tox for example) he's never really done another score like Face Off.


Well, maybe Chill Factor......lol.

Damien, Moderator reply Replies: 2 || 2010-09-20 00:00:00
Look at bottom of this page (or perhaps on next page as it will not be long before going to) at my post from 28/11/2007


Jesper2015-10-16 11:43:25
Soo, Damien, I was thinking... I actually have this score. Would it be alright I if decided to upload it to youtube for instance, so all these fans could have a chance to enjoy it as well? I mean, if it hasn't been officially released anyway, it's not like you're losing any money because of it. Otherwise I wouldn't have asked.


Damien, Moderator2015-10-17 02:40:08
Soo, Jesper you are publically telling you stole something...
And if you do not understand this, I can difficultly learn you what current laws are about intellectual properties rights.

MasterZ reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-21 02:07:50
I pulled a Giacchino, track 1: The Not So Merry Go Round ;0

One of my favorite tracks in face

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2012-10-19 14:34:18
why has gavin greenaway's name been removed and it now says additional music by geoff zanelli?

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-19 00:00:00
maybe if you used a certain search engine......

Andre reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-19 00:00:00
Hi!

I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want to know how or where I can buy this CD set. It is a great action movie and soundtrack and would love to these scores.

Look forward to hearing back from you.

Thanks,
Andre

anoop reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-10 00:00:00
superrrrrrrrr

rahul reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-26 00:00:00
thank you very much

tito reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-21 00:00:00
thanks

amr reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-11 00:00:00
thanks

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-23 00:00:00
The combination of Powell, Greenaway, and Zanelli was spot-on! Greenaway scoring action music is always a plus

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-12 00:00:00
CJ, "The Carrusel - On" was in fact a cue somebody added to the original 50 tracks complete score. It was "The Merry-Go-Round" followed by the "Alleluia" song featured at the beginning of the movie (but not part of Powell's score) - nothing new !

Geoff Zanelli didn't composed any cue, but was more like the assistant of Powell who helped him to complete some cues. As for Greenaway, he worked on the following cues for sure : Erewhon Prison, Bye Bye Pollux, Lazarro Dies, Standoff, The Garden... And I heard (no confirmation) that he did the Attack on the Loft cues.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-11 00:00:00
What tracks did Greenaway and Zanelli compose?

CJ reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-15 00:00:00
What happened to "The Carrusel - On" list on the "promo" Film score tray, the last track listed - (6:37)? I managed to locate the Face Off (Complete Score) OST [John Powell] but this track was not among the 50 included. Is it just me or was the selection removed for some unknown reason? Thanks in advance for any feedback!

FaceOffFan reply Replies: 0 || 2008-12-24 00:00:00
I'm sorry, but this is bullsh*t. The official soundtrack release has 8 songs? 8? Are you serious? And that's GOOD ENOUGH? I guess you just don't appreciate music like I do, I suppose. When I see that they have 2 CD's full of the music from my favorite film and NO WAY to hear it (other than watching the film), I get upset. Legal, illegal, I don't care. I just want to be able to listen to these tracks and enjoy the music, instead of making due with 8 songs....That's a smack in the face of the fans. #######

Sega reply Replies: 0 || 2008-10-25 00:00:00
good

HanZfan reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-08 00:00:00
I agree... I hoped they would have put a score out for this movie many years ago, which they didn't. And you have this, but no way for us to listen to it or buy it.

Remembering the music from the movie, it was a great score. But if there was some way to buy this at some point or buy the mp3s at least, that would be great.

Do you know if that will be possible? If so, when? I think I speak for many here when I say, we'd like to have these songs/soundtrack.

nicole reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-14 00:00:00
thanks

joe d reply Replies: 0 || 2008-03-02 00:00:00
I wish there was a way to get the longer version of the piano theme in hans' loft

Robert Monsivaiz reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-13 00:00:00
I didn't think this existed. But it looks AWESOME compared to the official soundtrack release! 8D

Falconet reply Replies: 0 || 2007-12-31 00:00:00
Geoff Zanelli : synths recording :P

Damien, Moderator reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-28 00:00:00
This CD cannot be bought as all bootleg releases (if you do not know what a bootleg is, look at wikipedia).
If you want the Face Off soundtrack, you can look at this one:
http://www.hans-zimmer.com/fr/disco_detail.php?id=87

Maria do Carmo reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-28 00:00:00
Where can I find the CD to buy in internet?

Thanks

Dasius reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-16 00:00:00
How are you going to tell us to rate it and then not tell us how to listen to it? Where can we find the full CDs? After I listen to it then I'll rate it.

fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-30 00:00:00
Definelty the best soundtrack of John Powell! Thank Hans (broken arrow) and Gavin (the peacemaker).

Naweel reply Replies: 0 || 2006-11-28 00:00:00
To Antas
Hi, I was wondering if this kind og music is bootleg which means it is not relesed then how come are there so many bottlegs which are not ment to be realesed but someone hs it. Why does somone has the music while other dont? Bootlegs are not meant to be realesed but they still pop up. How come?? I my self have a lot of bootlegs fomr mediaventutr composers but i have been waiting for this album for years but no one has it or uploads it. I have also tried to become a member of this page but i cant for some reason.
And I was wonderng did you write the music for the contender or was t just your version, either way it was great.
Thanks for any answers you might give
Bye
I will check back to see in case you replied

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2006-11-24 00:00:00
Reuben Lane, in answer to your question:

Producing a CD required certain costs to be paid in the first place for production, publicity etc.

Sometimes composers don't think it's worth it because maybe not enough people are after all their material.

However now with digital downloads removing these costs, complete scores are more likely. :)

Reuben Lane reply Replies: 0 || 2006-09-09 00:00:00
Why in the world do you let people make money off of bootlegs when you could release this same music and make the money yourself and make this music more accessable??

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