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Well, for starters, the HAN SOLO theme Williams wrote is kind of...well...meh....<br><br>And I can see where Powell had to incorporate the original Star Wars and some Empire themes....Asteroid Field being one of them.<br><br>I just kinda hoped Powell would adapt Asteroid Field into something more than whatever the hell butchery happened here....Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! When was there a flute in this score?? I just noticed there's a credit for a flute soloist, and I've listened to this score several times and never noticed a flute? Does anyone have any idea which track it might be?It's really sad how more than half of this score is just very messy bombastic sound rather than a more structured melodic/thematic approach, this coming from a hardcore Powell fan. The saddest thing is that this was THE film for him to score, full of action and chase sequences, which John has always excelled at. Here however, rather than his usual voice, it sounds as if he shies away from it and goes back to anything established by Williams every 30 seconds or so. Whenever it sounds like a cue is leading up to something interesting and exploring a new idea, it just shies away from it. This might have been on the directors/producer's side of things... or that's what I'm choosing to believe, at least. Don't get me wrong, every so often there are some sections that really do shine, this often being when Powell isn't just trying to sound Williamsy and/or referencing old SW material. Maybe I just need to give the album a few more listens. Usually happens whenever a new Powell soundtrack album is released. Not sure, though. Just by listening to Ferdinand a few times, for example, you could really feel and understand the story, its characters and their development, as their themes developed as well. This one is just a mess and feels... off.Such an inspiring track. Loved it when it was released and still love it.Only now just watched this show on Netflix and love balfes score . Canít believe this dark moody music is his !cant wait for Mission Impossible Fallout
It's a beautiful score. Already curious as to what he brings with The Meg@mrzimmerfan<br><br>Still have to disagree, I love the new ďPark ThemeĒ and the way it sort of takes over from the classic theme. Then you have the Indominus theme, Owenís theme, the villain theme, the family theme, the source music, etc.<br>Iíll take that any day over Lost World and JP3. Is it as good as the original score? Hell no, but not many scores are.<br><br>And I do see the similarities between the vulture theme and those other ones listed. Itís definitely not original, but it is effective.Really?, because sounds more like Beltrami than SilvestriVulture's theme is The Avengers theme but in lower tonesThis is just more of the "smooth talking, bad scoring" technique that Zimmer is very good at.
'Yeah, I definitely disagree. When I was watching Rogue One in theaters I kept getting taken out of the film because of the music, which isnít something that I normally pay attention to when I watch movies. '<br><br>The action music in that movie reinforces the tension and epicness of the movie (for example, The Master Switch gives gravitas to the scene and have a nice rendition for the theme of Chirrut's character)<br><br>'And I know it gets criticized a lot, but I honestly love Jurassic World. The flat recording sound aside, I think itís an intelligent score that does something new the franchise material while still paying tribute. Even Homecoming has grown on me, particularly Vultureís theme.'<br><br>Jurassic World, musically speaking, copies the tonal sound from the first Jurassic and dosen't give a memorable theme for the new park (the theme is more a other version from the Williams' theme), dosen't feel fresh to the franchise or inteligent, reverse, copies the tonal aspects from the original music from John Williams. Vulture's theme is a reshash from the Fantastic Four theme from Marco Beltrami and Philip Glassmpolonest123 Iím glad Iím not the only one who enjoys Jurassic World. It think it pays great tribute to John Williamsí groundbreaking work for the JP franchise, but it also had many exciting and creative motifs that made the score stand out in my mind.As for Pan, I initially wasnít impressed at all with the music. It took about a year for it to sink in and let me fall in love with the themes.@mrzimmerfan<br>Yeah, I definitely disagree. When I was watching Rogue One in theaters I kept getting taken out of the film because of the music, which isnít something that I normally pay attention to when I watch movies. <br><br>And I know it gets criticized a lot, but I honestly love Jurassic World. The flat recording sound aside, I think itís an intelligent score that does something new the franchise material while still paying tribute. Even Homecoming has grown on me, particularly Vultureís theme.@Ds: i'm not a big fan for Pan, i liked the score, but Powell have MUUUCH better action/fantasy scores.
"Pan" was also a replacement score, and look at the marvelous Powell score we got... However I don't know how long he had to score it. Certainly a bit more time than what Giacchino got for Rogue One.The action music is flat in Rogue One?, agree if the score isn't as good as Jupiter Ascending, for example, but the action music is BETTER than Spider-Man or Jurassic World.<br><br>IMHOAlso new Harry Gregson-Williams score out today! Breath.To be fair, Giacchino didnít have much time to work on Rogue One, which explains why certain portions (coughactionmusiccough) fell flat. Itís not a bad score at all, but yeah, John Powell is above and beyond a better composer. His recordings have life and energy, and while most of it still sounds like Powell, he is able to switch into Williams mode so easily.<br><br>In defense of Giacchino though, just go listen to Jupiter Ascending if you want a score on the same level as this. The action music is phenomenal, there are at least a dozen solid themes, and the recording doesnít seem as flat as some of his other scores.I think Powell found his niche with this score...<br>Because he's WAY better at apeing Williams than Giacchino could ever be, and with way more energy....<br><br>And here Giacchino prides his work on Williams from his origins in video game music... <br><br>This blows Giacchino out of the ocean and into the moon. This surprises me, as I expected Giacchino to have such  huge hard-on for Williams.
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Face/Off (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 128'12
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CD1
  1. The Merry-Go-Round (5:17)
  2. Airport Chase (6:24)
  3. Hangar Shootout (4:48)
  4. I Got Him, Eve (0:57)
  5. Case Closed (1:00)
  6. Sinclair Revealed (1:33)
  7. The Black Bag Operation (5:57)
  8. One Last Assignment (1:28)
  9. Face Lift - Madness (4:45)
  10. The Clock's Ticking (0:18)
  11. Erewhon Prison (2:16)
  12. Prison Fight (3:08)
  13. Casto Awakens (1:57)
  14. Unexpected Visito (3:16)
  15. Sean Attacks Castor (1:27)
  16. Castor In The Suburbs (1:27)
  17. Pollux Gets Released (1:05)
  18. Castor Disarms The Bomb (1:30)
  19. Sean's Breakdown (1:29)
  20. I Need A Light (1:34)
  21. Prison Escape (5:19)
  22. Mikey's Grave (3:50)
  23. Refuge At Dietrichs (2:30)
  24. The Golden Guns (0:29)
  25. Face... Off (2:22)
  26. No More Drugs For That Man (1:18)
CD2
  1. The Knife (2:23)
  2. Castor's Son (2:45)
  3. Attack On The Loft (Part 1) (2:47)
  4. Attack On The Loft (Part 2) (0:44)
  5. Castor Shoot Dietrich (0:43)
  6. Bye, Bye Pollux (3:00)
  7. Brotherly Love (1:18)
  8. Lazarro Dies (1:05)
  9. Sean Goes Home (1:43)
  10. Castor And Eve (1:13)
  11. Eve Learns The Truth (2:12)
  12. Our First Date (2:30)
  13. Castor At The Hospital (0:37)
  14. Sean's Move (1:29)
  15. Lazarro's Funeral (2:37)
  16. Standoff (2:50)
  17. The Garden (4:06)
  18. Boat Chase (4:20)
  19. Ready For The Big Ride, Bubba (3:25)
  20. Homecoming (3:07)
  21. Airport Chase (Alternate) (6:26)
  22. Hangar Shootout (Alternate) (4:48)
  23. Champers (Unused) (1:03)
  24. Rape Car Sourse (Unused) (0:53)
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SPECTER reply Replies: 3 || 2018-05-17 03:52:59
Hi guys, can anyone recommend some highlights from this soundtrack. Would appreciate it thank you!


Edmund Meinerts2018-05-17 08:28:28
If we're talking about the complete score, then

The Merry-Go-Round of Life
Airport Chase
Escape
Mikey's Grave
Boat Chase
Homecoming

is a good sampler of the absolute highlights to get you started. "Homecoming" (called "Ready for the Big Ride, Bubba" on the album release even though a different cue has that name on the complete score) is actually a really beautiful cue, one of my favorites from Powell.


Mephariel2018-05-17 17:32:03
The action cue "Escape" is easily one of my favorite from Powell. And the final cue for the scene right before the ending is absolutely beautiful. Face/Off is actually my favorite Powell score I think.


SPECTER2018-05-17 20:46:40
Thanks guys, will check out these cues.

Bayhem reply Replies: 2 || 2018-05-15 08:54:24
Honestly, I still can't believe that this is a Powell score. It's a classic Zimmer from start to finish. There are no credits here, so I wonder - is there more to this story? Was Hans really *just* a score producer. Or he actually did a lot.....?


Edmund Meinerts2018-05-15 09:19:59
Gavin Greenaway did a lot of additional work on this, which is probably why it ends up having such a heavy classic mid-90s MV sound to it (same year Greenaway worked on The Peacemaker, which kind of shows). But the quieter portions are genuine Powell to my ears, and if you listen to some of his more obscure work from around this time (stuff like his Director's Cuts cues, Human Bomb, High Incident, D-Tox which came out in 2002 but was composed a few years earlier I think) you'll get more of a frame of reference for what Powell sounded like back when he was just another cog in the MV machine and hadn't developed his own sound yet. Face/Off doesn't really sound like "Powell" as we know him now, but it also doesn't sound like genuine Zimmer at any point either.

FWIW, I have the following cues listed as co-composed by Greenaway, but I don't remember where exactly I got this information from so take it with a grain of salt:

Airport Chase
Erewhon Prison
Castor Disarms the Bomb
Mikey's Grave
Refuge at Dietrich's
The Golden Guns
Face...Off
Attack on the Loft (Part 1)
Attack on the Loft (Part 2)
Castor Shoots Dietrich
Bye Bye Pollux
Brotherly Love
Lazarro Dies
Standoff
The Garden


Bayhem2018-05-15 09:44:42
Gavin Greenaway did a lot of additional work on this
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Yes, absolutely. With this and The Peacemaker, Greenaway really showed some great composer skills. He should've had a bigger career. He deserves it.



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But the quieter portions are genuine Powell to my ears, and if you listen to some of his more obscure work from around this time (stuff like his Director's Cuts cues, Human Bomb, High Incident, D-Tox which came out in 2002 but was composed a few years earlier I think) you'll get more of a frame of reference for what Powell sounded like back when he was just another cog in the MV machine and hadn't developed his own sound yet
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Now that I think about it, you're right about the quieter moments in Face Off.

D-Tox is actually one of my all-time favorite scores and there are indeed some similarities between that score and Face Off. Very much a Powell sound. I guess with Face Off I was a little bit too focused on the choir bits (classic Zimmer approach) and the wild action tracks.



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Face/Off doesn't really sound like "Powell" as we know him now, but it also doesn't sound like genuine Zimmer at any point either.
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Well, some parts in the ending during Lazzaro's funeral feel feel very Zimmer-ish to me. Some cues during the boat and airport chase scenes as well. As for Powell, yes, you're right. This score really sticks out in his filmography. With the exception of certain tracks and cues (in D-Tox for example) he's never really done another score like Face Off.


Well, maybe Chill Factor......lol.

Damien, Moderator reply Replies: 2 || 2010-09-20 00:00:00
Look at bottom of this page (or perhaps on next page as it will not be long before going to) at my post from 28/11/2007


Jesper2015-10-16 11:43:25
Soo, Damien, I was thinking... I actually have this score. Would it be alright I if decided to upload it to youtube for instance, so all these fans could have a chance to enjoy it as well? I mean, if it hasn't been officially released anyway, it's not like you're losing any money because of it. Otherwise I wouldn't have asked.


Damien, Moderator2015-10-17 02:40:08
Soo, Jesper you are publically telling you stole something...
And if you do not understand this, I can difficultly learn you what current laws are about intellectual properties rights.

MasterZ reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-21 02:07:50
I pulled a Giacchino, track 1: The Not So Merry Go Round ;0

One of my favorite tracks in face

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2012-10-19 14:34:18
why has gavin greenaway's name been removed and it now says additional music by geoff zanelli?

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-19 00:00:00
maybe if you used a certain search engine......

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Andre reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-19 00:00:00
Hi!

I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want to know how or where I can buy this CD set. It is a great action movie and soundtrack and would love to these scores.

Look forward to hearing back from you.

Thanks,
Andre

anoop reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-10 00:00:00
superrrrrrrrr

rahul reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-26 00:00:00
thank you very much

tito reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-21 00:00:00
thanks

amr reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-11 00:00:00
thanks

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-23 00:00:00
The combination of Powell, Greenaway, and Zanelli was spot-on! Greenaway scoring action music is always a plus

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-12 00:00:00
CJ, "The Carrusel - On" was in fact a cue somebody added to the original 50 tracks complete score. It was "The Merry-Go-Round" followed by the "Alleluia" song featured at the beginning of the movie (but not part of Powell's score) - nothing new !

Geoff Zanelli didn't composed any cue, but was more like the assistant of Powell who helped him to complete some cues. As for Greenaway, he worked on the following cues for sure : Erewhon Prison, Bye Bye Pollux, Lazarro Dies, Standoff, The Garden... And I heard (no confirmation) that he did the Attack on the Loft cues.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-11 00:00:00
What tracks did Greenaway and Zanelli compose?

CJ reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-15 00:00:00
What happened to "The Carrusel - On" list on the "promo" Film score tray, the last track listed - (6:37)? I managed to locate the Face Off (Complete Score) OST [John Powell] but this track was not among the 50 included. Is it just me or was the selection removed for some unknown reason? Thanks in advance for any feedback!

FaceOffFan reply Replies: 0 || 2008-12-24 00:00:00
I'm sorry, but this is bullsh*t. The official soundtrack release has 8 songs? 8? Are you serious? And that's GOOD ENOUGH? I guess you just don't appreciate music like I do, I suppose. When I see that they have 2 CD's full of the music from my favorite film and NO WAY to hear it (other than watching the film), I get upset. Legal, illegal, I don't care. I just want to be able to listen to these tracks and enjoy the music, instead of making due with 8 songs....That's a smack in the face of the fans. #######

Sega reply Replies: 0 || 2008-10-25 00:00:00
good

HanZfan reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-08 00:00:00
I agree... I hoped they would have put a score out for this movie many years ago, which they didn't. And you have this, but no way for us to listen to it or buy it.

Remembering the music from the movie, it was a great score. But if there was some way to buy this at some point or buy the mp3s at least, that would be great.

Do you know if that will be possible? If so, when? I think I speak for many here when I say, we'd like to have these songs/soundtrack.

nicole reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-14 00:00:00
thanks

joe d reply Replies: 0 || 2008-03-02 00:00:00
I wish there was a way to get the longer version of the piano theme in hans' loft

Robert Monsivaiz reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-13 00:00:00
I didn't think this existed. But it looks AWESOME compared to the official soundtrack release! 8D

Falconet reply Replies: 0 || 2007-12-31 00:00:00
Geoff Zanelli : synths recording :P

Damien, Moderator reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-28 00:00:00
This CD cannot be bought as all bootleg releases (if you do not know what a bootleg is, look at wikipedia).
If you want the Face Off soundtrack, you can look at this one:
http://www.hans-zimmer.com/fr/disco_detail.php?id=87

Maria do Carmo reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-28 00:00:00
Where can I find the CD to buy in internet?

Thanks

Dasius reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-16 00:00:00
How are you going to tell us to rate it and then not tell us how to listen to it? Where can we find the full CDs? After I listen to it then I'll rate it.

fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-30 00:00:00
Definelty the best soundtrack of John Powell! Thank Hans (broken arrow) and Gavin (the peacemaker).

Naweel reply Replies: 0 || 2006-11-28 00:00:00
To Antas
Hi, I was wondering if this kind og music is bootleg which means it is not relesed then how come are there so many bottlegs which are not ment to be realesed but someone hs it. Why does somone has the music while other dont? Bootlegs are not meant to be realesed but they still pop up. How come?? I my self have a lot of bootlegs fomr mediaventutr composers but i have been waiting for this album for years but no one has it or uploads it. I have also tried to become a member of this page but i cant for some reason.
And I was wonderng did you write the music for the contender or was t just your version, either way it was great.
Thanks for any answers you might give
Bye
I will check back to see in case you replied

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2006-11-24 00:00:00
Reuben Lane, in answer to your question:

Producing a CD required certain costs to be paid in the first place for production, publicity etc.

Sometimes composers don't think it's worth it because maybe not enough people are after all their material.

However now with digital downloads removing these costs, complete scores are more likely. :)

Reuben Lane reply Replies: 0 || 2006-09-09 00:00:00
Why in the world do you let people make money off of bootlegs when you could release this same music and make the money yourself and make this music more accessable??

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