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Theres quite a bit of good unreleased stuff from this score. Stuff like the cue that plays during Alita's first game of motorball with the other kids, the bar fight music, the unused string rendition of Alita's theme and the end titles arrangement of Motorball/Swan Song.Does anyone have the "Motorball" cue from end credits? It sounds like the beginning of the "Motorball" track but it's different than on the OST. It plays directly after the Swan Song track...<br><br>Why is it left off the CD?Huh... Do people at RCP ask H-Z.com to use the official, less accurate credits in some cases? I seem to recall some credit fiasco on POTC4.So what happened to the credits here? It used to be a mixture of solo Atli cues with Atli/Dave Fleming, and now all three guys are credited for every track even though Tillman is only listed as a musician? Is this like with Armageddon, where the "official" credits aren't as accurate as the older ones were? :pMost of the album is comprised of suites, with one consistent tempo per track. <br><br>The material that was scored to picture was scored using the risset rhythm technique, which gave a lot of those tracks their "infinitely getting faster" feeling in the film, so the tempo is always climbing in the film versions. The suites have a stable tempo (except for a couple normal tempo changes, which are different)
Not really any... "Nothing Out There" contains the sad piano theme from Begins and Dark Knight, but otherwise the themes that get reprised are pretty much Hans stuff. <br><br>Speaking of credits, any chance the complete score page could be updated with what's out there and official?Could somebody tell me in what cues JNH's themes appear on album?Thanks MIKE, Any ideas of how can I Google it?Yeah, that cue was either a last minute rewrite or one of the music editors did it.... As for where you can find it...Google is your friend. But it's not going to be available anywhere officially.I think it will be in between NOT ORDINARY CITIZEN / THE SLOW KNIFE and IMAGINE THE FIRE, Does anybody know where can I find it?<br>
I noticed that this score doesn't has the soundtrack of the part where Blake is taking the people to the bridge and he is discusing with the other police officer before he blows the bridgeThat's right, I forgot about that... And I totally agree about the score vs. the album. I had no use for this score on album at first, but now that I've watched the movie a few times, I can really hear the logic behind the score and I "get it." <br><br>I still don't get the music as heard on album, though. Are the longer pieces some early suites Hans wrote? Or did he specifically make these arrangements for the album? Do you know the answer to that one, Hybrid?I wanna say I heard the full Cat Suite somewhere... I can't remember if it was legit, but it was 15:39 and it was indeed quite repetitive. It was basically the Selina Kyle Suite from the Z+ app, along with demos of several of the Catwoman-related cues in the final score. If you've listened through the score, you've basically heard the unreleased stuff.@Mike<br>Zimmer has said in interviews that he “mapped out” the film with one long piece of music to establish the changing tempo of the story, and apparently the script was written to capture the rhythmic feel of the film. So from the very beginning the story was always split up between the three.<br><br>I think a big part of the initial disappointment with the score was the album presentation, which gives off the impression that the music is just some sound design that Zimmer threw together (this is how I personally felt when I first gave it a listen). In actuality it’s a technically impressive score, I really can’t think of any other film score that is so synchronized with a film’s tempo and flows as one long piece of music. Apparently it was a nightmare for Hans, especially when the smallest edits to the film would ruin the flow.<br><br>Doing the 59-minute album was a pretty big disservice to the whole purpose of the music. If you remove one piece the whole thing falls apart, which is part of the reason the album feels so disjointed.Anyone here listened "The Predator" FYC score? <br>Any chance to compare tracklist and running time with official release?
These versions suites haven't been officially released, but maybe you can find them somewhere around the Internet unofficially.<br><br>As for the Cat Suite, the most important parts of it can be found in "Selina Kyle" (it's a shortened version of it actually) and "Mind if I cut in?" from the OST. I remember that Hybrid once said that the 15mins Cat Suite was too repetitive, that's why a 5min only version was released, so maybe you are just fine with those two.<br>Where can I listen to the Cat Suite? Or is it literally: Selina Kyle Theme? <br>The Mole P1 (0-1:57)<br>Regimental Brothers P1 (0-1:19)<br>The Mole P2 (1:57-3:44)<br>Regimental Brothers P3 (2:44 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier<br>Supermarine P1 (0-2:47)<br>The Mole P3 (3:45 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back (again) <br>Supermarine P2 (*5:33)<br>Impulse<br>The Tide<br>Home <br>The Oil <br>Variation 15<br>End Credits <br><br>As everyone said already, the album is made up of suites that combine several cues and several "sounds" used in various places. For example, the is a sound in The Mole (At 2:05) that sounds like a fuse being ignited. This sound is actually right after The Tide in the film.<br>The only tracks that are almost identical to the film are: The Tide, Variation 15 and End Credits, the rest is different. <br><br>So if you were to order the tracks as first heard in the film it would be: <br>The Mole <br>Regimental Brothers <br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier <br>Supermarine <br>Impluse <br>The Tide <br>Home <br>The Oil<br>Variation 15<br>End credits<br><br>As much as I enjoyed listening to this release, I wish they didn't butcher the score the way they did. I like the suites but there are so many great cues in this film that weren't released. If only they released an isolated score track on Blu-ray. Listening to film extracts is just not enough.I noticed that as well — the ticking goes all through the movie, except for the boat scenes, and only stops when they get on the train. <br><br>I wonder...could the film have originally been shot so that the beach, sea, and air sequences were there own arcs, and the longer album tracks were written for that? And then Nolan went in and turned the movie into the frenetic, constantly cutting-back-and-forth final product? <br><br>While the album is fine, I personally don't understand why we couldn't have just gotten the film cues. They might have had to stitch several together for each track, but it could have worked.Does anyone know where you can get a digital version of the Japanese versions 2 bonus tracks?
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John PowellGavin GreenawayRyeland AllisonHans Zimmer
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional ArrangementsScore Producer
Face/Off (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 128'12
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CD1
  1. The Merry-Go-Round (5:17)
  2. Airport Chase (6:24)
  3. Hangar Shootout (4:48)
  4. I Got Him, Eve (0:57)
  5. Case Closed (1:00)
  6. Sinclair Revealed (1:33)
  7. The Black Bag Operation (5:57)
  8. One Last Assignment (1:28)
  9. Face Lift - Madness (4:45)
  10. The Clock's Ticking (0:18)
  11. Erewhon Prison (2:16)
  12. Prison Fight (3:08)
  13. Casto Awakens (1:57)
  14. Unexpected Visito (3:16)
  15. Sean Attacks Castor (1:27)
  16. Castor In The Suburbs (1:27)
  17. Pollux Gets Released (1:05)
  18. Castor Disarms The Bomb (1:30)
  19. Sean's Breakdown (1:29)
  20. I Need A Light (1:34)
  21. Prison Escape (5:19)
  22. Mikey's Grave (3:50)
  23. Refuge At Dietrichs (2:30)
  24. The Golden Guns (0:29)
  25. Face... Off (2:22)
  26. No More Drugs For That Man (1:18)
CD2
  1. The Knife (2:23)
  2. Castor's Son (2:45)
  3. Attack On The Loft (Part 1) (2:47)
  4. Attack On The Loft (Part 2) (0:44)
  5. Castor Shoot Dietrich (0:43)
  6. Bye, Bye Pollux (3:00)
  7. Brotherly Love (1:18)
  8. Lazarro Dies (1:05)
  9. Sean Goes Home (1:43)
  10. Castor And Eve (1:13)
  11. Eve Learns The Truth (2:12)
  12. Our First Date (2:30)
  13. Castor At The Hospital (0:37)
  14. Sean's Move (1:29)
  15. Lazarro's Funeral (2:37)
  16. Standoff (2:50)
  17. The Garden (4:06)
  18. Boat Chase (4:20)
  19. Ready For The Big Ride, Bubba (3:25)
  20. Homecoming (3:07)
  21. Airport Chase (Alternate) (6:26)
  22. Hangar Shootout (Alternate) (4:48)
  23. Champers (Unused) (1:03)
  24. Rape Car Sourse (Unused) (0:53)
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SPECTER reply Replies: 3 || 2018-05-17 03:52:59
Hi guys, can anyone recommend some highlights from this soundtrack. Would appreciate it thank you!

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Edmund Meinerts2018-05-17 08:28:28
If we're talking about the complete score, then

The Merry-Go-Round of Life
Airport Chase
Escape
Mikey's Grave
Boat Chase
Homecoming

is a good sampler of the absolute highlights to get you started. "Homecoming" (called "Ready for the Big Ride, Bubba" on the album release even though a different cue has that name on the complete score) is actually a really beautiful cue, one of my favorites from Powell.


Mephariel2018-05-17 17:32:03
The action cue "Escape" is easily one of my favorite from Powell. And the final cue for the scene right before the ending is absolutely beautiful. Face/Off is actually my favorite Powell score I think.


SPECTER2018-05-17 20:46:40
Thanks guys, will check out these cues.

Bayhem reply Replies: 2 || 2018-05-15 08:54:24
Honestly, I still can't believe that this is a Powell score. It's a classic Zimmer from start to finish. There are no credits here, so I wonder - is there more to this story? Was Hans really *just* a score producer. Or he actually did a lot.....?


Edmund Meinerts2018-05-15 09:19:59
Gavin Greenaway did a lot of additional work on this, which is probably why it ends up having such a heavy classic mid-90s MV sound to it (same year Greenaway worked on The Peacemaker, which kind of shows). But the quieter portions are genuine Powell to my ears, and if you listen to some of his more obscure work from around this time (stuff like his Director's Cuts cues, Human Bomb, High Incident, D-Tox which came out in 2002 but was composed a few years earlier I think) you'll get more of a frame of reference for what Powell sounded like back when he was just another cog in the MV machine and hadn't developed his own sound yet. Face/Off doesn't really sound like "Powell" as we know him now, but it also doesn't sound like genuine Zimmer at any point either.

FWIW, I have the following cues listed as co-composed by Greenaway, but I don't remember where exactly I got this information from so take it with a grain of salt:

Airport Chase
Erewhon Prison
Castor Disarms the Bomb
Mikey's Grave
Refuge at Dietrich's
The Golden Guns
Face...Off
Attack on the Loft (Part 1)
Attack on the Loft (Part 2)
Castor Shoots Dietrich
Bye Bye Pollux
Brotherly Love
Lazarro Dies
Standoff
The Garden


Bayhem2018-05-15 09:44:42
Gavin Greenaway did a lot of additional work on this
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Yes, absolutely. With this and The Peacemaker, Greenaway really showed some great composer skills. He should've had a bigger career. He deserves it.



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But the quieter portions are genuine Powell to my ears, and if you listen to some of his more obscure work from around this time (stuff like his Director's Cuts cues, Human Bomb, High Incident, D-Tox which came out in 2002 but was composed a few years earlier I think) you'll get more of a frame of reference for what Powell sounded like back when he was just another cog in the MV machine and hadn't developed his own sound yet
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Now that I think about it, you're right about the quieter moments in Face Off.

D-Tox is actually one of my all-time favorite scores and there are indeed some similarities between that score and Face Off. Very much a Powell sound. I guess with Face Off I was a little bit too focused on the choir bits (classic Zimmer approach) and the wild action tracks.



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Face/Off doesn't really sound like "Powell" as we know him now, but it also doesn't sound like genuine Zimmer at any point either.
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Well, some parts in the ending during Lazzaro's funeral feel feel very Zimmer-ish to me. Some cues during the boat and airport chase scenes as well. As for Powell, yes, you're right. This score really sticks out in his filmography. With the exception of certain tracks and cues (in D-Tox for example) he's never really done another score like Face Off.


Well, maybe Chill Factor......lol.

Damien, Moderator reply Replies: 2 || 2010-09-20 00:00:00
Look at bottom of this page (or perhaps on next page as it will not be long before going to) at my post from 28/11/2007


Jesper2015-10-16 11:43:25
Soo, Damien, I was thinking... I actually have this score. Would it be alright I if decided to upload it to youtube for instance, so all these fans could have a chance to enjoy it as well? I mean, if it hasn't been officially released anyway, it's not like you're losing any money because of it. Otherwise I wouldn't have asked.


Damien, Moderator2015-10-17 02:40:08
Soo, Jesper you are publically telling you stole something...
And if you do not understand this, I can difficultly learn you what current laws are about intellectual properties rights.

MasterZ reply Replies: 0 || 2013-05-21 02:07:50
I pulled a Giacchino, track 1: The Not So Merry Go Round ;0

One of my favorite tracks in face

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2012-10-19 14:34:18
why has gavin greenaway's name been removed and it now says additional music by geoff zanelli?

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-19 00:00:00
maybe if you used a certain search engine......

Andre reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-19 00:00:00
Hi!

I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want to know how or where I can buy this CD set. It is a great action movie and soundtrack and would love to these scores.

Look forward to hearing back from you.

Thanks,
Andre

anoop reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-10 00:00:00
superrrrrrrrr

rahul reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-26 00:00:00
thank you very much

tito reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-21 00:00:00
thanks

amr reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-11 00:00:00
thanks

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-23 00:00:00
The combination of Powell, Greenaway, and Zanelli was spot-on! Greenaway scoring action music is always a plus

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-12 00:00:00
CJ, "The Carrusel - On" was in fact a cue somebody added to the original 50 tracks complete score. It was "The Merry-Go-Round" followed by the "Alleluia" song featured at the beginning of the movie (but not part of Powell's score) - nothing new !

Geoff Zanelli didn't composed any cue, but was more like the assistant of Powell who helped him to complete some cues. As for Greenaway, he worked on the following cues for sure : Erewhon Prison, Bye Bye Pollux, Lazarro Dies, Standoff, The Garden... And I heard (no confirmation) that he did the Attack on the Loft cues.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-04-11 00:00:00
What tracks did Greenaway and Zanelli compose?

CJ reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-15 00:00:00
What happened to "The Carrusel - On" list on the "promo" Film score tray, the last track listed - (6:37)? I managed to locate the Face Off (Complete Score) OST [John Powell] but this track was not among the 50 included. Is it just me or was the selection removed for some unknown reason? Thanks in advance for any feedback!

FaceOffFan reply Replies: 0 || 2008-12-24 00:00:00
I'm sorry, but this is bullsh*t. The official soundtrack release has 8 songs? 8? Are you serious? And that's GOOD ENOUGH? I guess you just don't appreciate music like I do, I suppose. When I see that they have 2 CD's full of the music from my favorite film and NO WAY to hear it (other than watching the film), I get upset. Legal, illegal, I don't care. I just want to be able to listen to these tracks and enjoy the music, instead of making due with 8 songs....That's a smack in the face of the fans. #######

Sega reply Replies: 0 || 2008-10-25 00:00:00
good

HanZfan reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-08 00:00:00
I agree... I hoped they would have put a score out for this movie many years ago, which they didn't. And you have this, but no way for us to listen to it or buy it.

Remembering the music from the movie, it was a great score. But if there was some way to buy this at some point or buy the mp3s at least, that would be great.

Do you know if that will be possible? If so, when? I think I speak for many here when I say, we'd like to have these songs/soundtrack.

nicole reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-14 00:00:00
thanks

joe d reply Replies: 0 || 2008-03-02 00:00:00
I wish there was a way to get the longer version of the piano theme in hans' loft

Robert Monsivaiz reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-13 00:00:00
I didn't think this existed. But it looks AWESOME compared to the official soundtrack release! 8D

Falconet reply Replies: 0 || 2007-12-31 00:00:00
Geoff Zanelli : synths recording :P

Damien, Moderator reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-28 00:00:00
This CD cannot be bought as all bootleg releases (if you do not know what a bootleg is, look at wikipedia).
If you want the Face Off soundtrack, you can look at this one:
http://www.hans-zimmer.com/fr/disco_detail.php?id=87

Maria do Carmo reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-28 00:00:00
Where can I find the CD to buy in internet?

Thanks

Dasius reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-16 00:00:00
How are you going to tell us to rate it and then not tell us how to listen to it? Where can we find the full CDs? After I listen to it then I'll rate it.

fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-30 00:00:00
Definelty the best soundtrack of John Powell! Thank Hans (broken arrow) and Gavin (the peacemaker).

Naweel reply Replies: 0 || 2006-11-28 00:00:00
To Antas
Hi, I was wondering if this kind og music is bootleg which means it is not relesed then how come are there so many bottlegs which are not ment to be realesed but someone hs it. Why does somone has the music while other dont? Bootlegs are not meant to be realesed but they still pop up. How come?? I my self have a lot of bootlegs fomr mediaventutr composers but i have been waiting for this album for years but no one has it or uploads it. I have also tried to become a member of this page but i cant for some reason.
And I was wonderng did you write the music for the contender or was t just your version, either way it was great.
Thanks for any answers you might give
Bye
I will check back to see in case you replied

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2006-11-24 00:00:00
Reuben Lane, in answer to your question:

Producing a CD required certain costs to be paid in the first place for production, publicity etc.

Sometimes composers don't think it's worth it because maybe not enough people are after all their material.

However now with digital downloads removing these costs, complete scores are more likely. :)

Reuben Lane reply Replies: 0 || 2006-09-09 00:00:00
Why in the world do you let people make money off of bootlegs when you could release this same music and make the money yourself and make this music more accessable??

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