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Don't feel bad. You've just summed up why Hans and Lorne make a good team. Lorne is by all accounts a fantastic arranger and can bring out the best in others' ideas but I sometimes find his own compositions are a bit basic or leave me cold. Hans on the other hand always nails the theme and the concept but his scoring to picture to me feels clunky and a bit amateurish, especially when the music is dense. <br><br>Both super talented in their own ways. :-)Is there anyway o get sheet music for Into the pie machine for orchestra?Just saw Maleficent 2. There is a lot more Newton Howard in the movoe than there is on album.<br>I actually can't really understand why they didn't include the reprise of The Christening (the dinner scene) & the finale in the movie.<br><br>Zanelli's score is wonderful and I love it very much. But would have loved this on albumI can't imagine how someone likes Balfe's part over Richters. As you said Thomas, Richters work sounds more like suites, and Balfes work is written more to picture. BUT, it sounds to me also like a typical RCP-work with Hans. While Hans gives the direction with his suites and melodies, Balfe and co are adapting those suites to the specific scenes and writing some "new" stuff to fill any gap if there is any need of it, so they become additional composers in the credits.<br><br>And here, we have the same. Richter shows the direction and some cues are real intense and beautiful. Balfes parts sounding like a gap-filler. I don't want to talk bad about Balfe, he's a composing machine, but still i can't find anything remarkable on those parts and so i can't understand how Richters work hasn't been used but instead the more colorless cues from Balfes part :/<br><br>Again, don't feel insulted guys, it's just my sensationBalfeís part is the best I think.<br>It also seems written to picture instead of just long suites.<br>My understanding is the Balfe wrote half of the score but the album doesnít seem to represent that for some reason.
I really liked Richterís score over balfesI listened Max Richter for years. He is the kind of select or minority composer who does his solo works and soundtrack for movies not so famous. <br>His solo works are really really good with quintet and piano and voice. "on the nature of daylight" is definitely the best. <br>His sountrack is not good as his solo, to be honest. I think "the Leftovers" (2014-2017, HBO series), "Miss Slaone" (2016) and "Mary Queen of Scots" (2019) are cool.<br>If you need some peaceful music for meditation or good sleep, listen to his work.Richter did his recording in january and june 2019. The Director himself is a fan of Richter, so the deadline and director are not the reason.<br>It seemed that producers were not satisfied with Richter's music and they wanted something new, that's why they got Lorne. It turned out Lorne brought a very limited new...@Cercei<br>Hybrid can definitely answer that best. Richterís score is used (alongside Balfeís material) as well as some source pieces. If I remember correctly itís a mish-mash of the two.I do know that piece, itís very pretty. Iíll check out his other works, thanks for the recommendation. In terms of minimalism I really am into Brian Eno at the moment. His ďMusic For AirportsĒ and ďThe Lovely BonesĒ are excellent if you like more introspective music.
btw, you're saying Lorne recomposed and reworked the entire score. as i haven't seen the movie yet, did the producers end up with not using richters score for it at all and just used the score from Lorne?thanks for your information. but i actually don't understand why they have done that. i've heard now Lornes cues and Richters cues. all those cues from Lorne, they sound very similiar to that what Richter composed, but somehow with less melodies. And you really have to work hard to not use fewer melodies then Richter, as he's a minimalist at its best ^^ with that being said, i can't hear any groundbreaking differences from Lornes part, so what was their idea on hiring it and getting the same style of music, but in a more "light" version? :/i really admire Max Richters work, he isn't that new in this scene. his style is that repeating minimalism. maybe you've heard once the cue "on the nature of daylight" which was used a lot by many other movies. his last score which knocked me out was "Hostiles". such an emotional and intense score, you need to hear that, and probably see the movie as well (with Christian Bale). <br><br>Really surprised at this album, Iíve never really heard anything from Max Richter but I really like what he ended up writing for this score. It surprisingly flows well for a stand alone listen. Itís funny that the producers wanted a different approach, I think Richter nailed it.<br><br>Balfeís contribution is excellent as well, I particularly like that repeating chord progression (which is starting to become one of his trademarks considering how many times he has used it). Itís disappointing that they didnít include more of his contribution though, since he apparently rewrote the entire score.Lorne said in his Twitter, the first album for His Dark Materials come 3rd November, no date, for the moment, for the second album.
Was the producersi haven't understood the fact, that Lorne was involved in this. Can someone explain it for me? Was the director not satisfied with Richters music? Was the deadline too near? Or what was the reason why they have brought Lorne to this project?"The Wanderer", "Event Horizon", "You Have To Let Me Go" and "Tuesday (Voiceless)" = WOW WOW WOW!!!Zanelli is no James Newton Howard, but he did a fantastic job with writing a large scale fantasy score. Iíll even say that, while I think the first Maleficent is stronger overall, I personally like the action writing better here. Also 2 little things Iíve noticed;<br><br>1. The new theme here sounds fairly similar to the Father/Son tune from KFP3<br>2. 2:20-3:30 sounds like it may have been temped from the finale of Fantastic Beasts. (Or maybe Iím just crazy lol)Great work of Zanelli, if is not as good like JNH's Maleficent, is a tremendous work, with a terrific writing and orchestrations, even the most tender parts are terrific.
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Hans ZimmerHarry Gregson-WilliamsDon HarperJay Rifkin
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Broken Arrow (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 95'32
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  1. Rope-A-Dope (5:04)
    Hans Zimmer
  2. The Bomber (1:53)
    Hans Zimmer
  3. Campers (0:39)
    Hans Zimmer
  4. Going To War (6:17)
    Hans Zimmer
  5. Wreckage (0:16)
    Hans Zimmer
  6. The Pentagon (1:16)
    Hans Zimmer
  7. The Search - Broken Arrow (2:42)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  8. Desert Dawn (3:41)
    Hans Zimmer
  9. Day Search (1:28)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  10. Right Down There (3:26)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  11. Something's Coming (3:50)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  12. 10,000 Years (2:15)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  13. Humvee Chase (4:54)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  14. Mine Shaft 1 (1:53)
    Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams
  15. Mine Shaft 2 (15:49)
    Hans Zimmer
  16. Big Bang (2:15)
    Hans Zimmer
  17. Butterflies (1:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Don Harper
  18. The Boat - Stowaway (3:27)
    Hans Zimmer, Don Harper
  19. Breaking Orders (2:19)
    Hans Zimmer, Don Harper
  20. Eat A Bullet (2:15)
    Hans Zimmer, Don Harper
  21. Hammerhead (17:04)
    Hans Zimmer
  22. Nuke Disarmed (End Credits) (7:33)
    Hans Zimmer
  23. Eat A Bullet (Alternate) (3:35)
    Hans Zimmer, Don Harper
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Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2019-09-12 23:04:52
Little credit update.


Edmund Meinerts2019-09-14 15:02:27
Huh. Weird how Harper and HGW worked on continuous chunks of the movie, like Hans assigned them reel by reel or something...

Bayhem reply Replies: 5 || 2017-07-15 21:34:04
No need for me to say that I absolutely adore that score. Some truly amazing cues. I wonder though, are there any other Zimmer scores, or tracks, with heavy Western influences and elements? Aside from this and Rango...


Bondo2017-07-17 01:04:33
Listen to his unused Gladiator theme "Duduk of the North" and you'll hear some serious Western influences ;)


...2017-07-17 01:06:48
And Lone Ranger of course....


Patrick2017-07-17 01:11:03
...and of course "Parlay" in Pirates Of The Carribbean 3


JR2017-07-17 04:37:12
A bit of Western elements, you should also check :
- Thelma & Louise (action cues are Nice!)
- An everlasting Piece (a good jam session with a large variety of instruments, including Western influence)


Bayhem2017-07-17 13:20:39
Awesome! Thanks for the recommendations, folks. Off to check them out.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-03 00:00:00
@ Sam, "For me... There is no difference between Comercial Released and This kind of Bootleg CD.."

Then you clearly dont know the score that well! The commercial CD is mixed (badly) in places and the cues are not standalone like on this edition.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-07-08 00:00:00
Much appreciated! I always like knowing who wrote what and trying to figure it all out based on each composer's "sound."

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2009-07-08 00:00:00
@ Bondo

Some licensing sites are giving credits to Gregson-Williams for the Main Titles ("Brothers") along with Harper and Zimmer. That's everything I have about HGW on Broken Arrow.

I know for sure that Harper wrote the cues Boat (CD2 track4), Breaking Orders (CD2 track5) and Train Fight (CD2 track6). I know, the tracknames aren't the same... but the bootleg's tracklist is fanmade, not official. Boat and Train Fight are mixed together and named "Broken Arrow Suite" on one of Harper's promo.
And Harper is given credits for Breaking Orders on some licensing sites. It's fun to see he wrote many cues that follow each other, like if Zimmer told him "from reel #20 to reel #26, YOU write ALL the music". :-)
I don't know if Harper composed other cues.

Zimmer is credited ALONE on the following cues : "Desert Dawn" (CD1 track8) and Mine Shaft (*probably - due to the track name* CD1 track12, but could also be CD2 track1).

Hope it helps.

I have also noticed that there are a few cues missing on this bootleg, mostly from the scene with the nukes in the canyon, just after the crash. Not the best cues of the score, but enjoyable ones nonetheless.

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2009-05-05 00:00:00
Any ideas what tracks Harry Gregson-Williams worked on?

Ruthlessgravity reply Replies: 0 || 2009-05-05 00:00:00
@ Bondo

Besides writing additional music? Not sure, could be possible that he just wrote filler music - the songs that are like a 40 some seconds long.

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-17 00:00:00
Great thing that this one has a proper good quality No FX version - IMHO it's one of Zimmer's finest action scores. Now only if The Lion King also gets a similar quality boot... ;D

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-02 00:00:00
Really good stuff in here. But I think they ran out of creative juice when it came for a tracklisting! hehe

Mikel Carmona S.i.W ( from Spain) reply Replies: 0 || 2008-03-26 00:00:00
You are right, Hybrid Soldier

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-21 00:00:00
No, axel...

The theme of Broken Arrow IS in Scream !


;-)

axel reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-21 00:00:00
It's a good score.
N.B. : The love theme from Scream 2 (theme which is not on the complete score 2 CD composed by Marco Beltrami) is in the score of Broken Arrow !!!

fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2007-02-19 00:00:00
my favorite score. I have searched a lot for it and I'm not disapponted. Many adds by comparison with the commercial score. Amazing !!!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2006-08-20 00:00:00
Got my hands on this one, awesome to say the least.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2006-07-26 00:00:00
Yeah you try finding it! :P

Took me a while to get it and I did stumble on it through a friend but that was after I bought it. This CD is laser etched etc. and I got it pretty cheap! =D

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2006-07-25 00:00:00
Wow, you paid money for a bootleg? Crazy nut!

xeriouxi reply Replies: 0 || 2006-07-23 00:00:00
Just bought this... hope that it's the real thing! ^^;

ReddragonAvidFan reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-18 00:00:00
here's the covers
i made 3 different back for people who like the movie
choose the one u prefer

http://plissken.free.fr/Covers/B/B.htm

ReddragonAvidFan reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-17 00:00:00
Excellent idea this 2cds

will do a new cover asap!!!
will let u know

Dark reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-12 00:00:00
this one is a true must-one
excellent quality

S reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-12 00:00:00
Indeed, this one is the BEST version so far.

But the cover inserts are sooo bad....

Antas, Webmaster reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-11 00:00:00
yes, the official release contains the main interesting cues fortunately

Sam reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-11 00:00:00
For me...

There is no difference between Comercial Released and This kind of Bootleg CD...

Antas, Webmaster reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-11 00:00:00
All tracks are stereo and very good quality :-)

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-11 00:00:00
Ah... Good old Broken Arrow. Nice find guys! I think you guys at HZ.com have come across a treasure vault of the former Media Ventures compositions, eh? You seem to find more no-fx soundtracks than ever before!

Anyway, don't tell me there are mono tracks in this one like TLK!! ;-)

Angel reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-11 00:00:00
So there was a complete score afterall...

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