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Olive the problem is to me at least 12 Strong sounds very like 13 Hours. That then totally messes your argument up !13 Hours must be nearly 3 years old now.where can i find the cue sheets? thxWondring how much influence Tom Howe wille have on this score. Professor Marston was such a lovely score.All those people who complain that Hans isn't sticking to more traditional scores forget that at heart, hes a synth man who loves his synthesizers and keyboards. Hans is just as much as a musical artist as Bowie or Paul Mccartney, in the sense that he goes through musical trends and his style adapts or changes. That's just the way it is, enjoy it for what it is. <br><br>Crucify me for comparing a human to David Bowie!Wow! Stephen Barton worked on a lot of the important cues here, huh?
I'm with Edmund in that I'd love for Hans to win more Oscars, but not this score. I feel like even Blade Runner 2049 is more deserving of an award than this. Sure, it works great in the film, but that shouldn't be reason enough for an Oscar. I feel like Desplat's nominated score is more deserving than this one. <br><br>"But this one has a unique sound and recording!"<br><br>Okay... a lot of scores have that. A lot of Zimmer's work has that. Doesn't make them all masterpieces.<br><br>"But we have to spite those evil reviewers who hate this score!"<br><br>Why do you let their opinion get in the way of your enjoyment? If you love it enough, the critics' opinions should only make you enjoy it more because you see something in it they don't. <br><br>I agree with George in that Hans needs to go back to a melodic sound. I don't think whether this score wins or not will change Hans' mind on that, but I do want his next Oscar winner to mean something other than, "Oh cool! I won this award because I made weird sounds!" (Which by the way, involves things like programming and a lot of other technical adjustments that have nothing to do with Hans' composing ability)."The thing that I'm proudest about Dunkirk is you can't separate it from the film."<br>- Hans Zimmer, GQI understand, but it does not make sense.<br>You're arguing that the score for a movie released in January this year was produced before of the score of a movie that went to theaters in July. If Balfe started working on "12 strong" a year before the movie release, the same can be said of Dunkirk. It is easy to infer that the Dunkirk's score has been working since the middle of 2016! Or even before, because of the tours that Zimmer has done.<br>The music/sound design, even being simple, was not made and recorded between January and May of last year.Olive  that is when it was announced !!! Not when he did itBalfe's hiring came out in May, when Dunkirk's production was already at the end. No contest.<br><br><br>filmmusicreporter.  com/ <br> 2017/05/24/lorne-balfe-to-score-horse-soldiers/
Hans finished the bulk of the score before he went on tour, you could find an interview where he himself says so. <br>Ben worked solely on Variation 15. <br>Scroll down on this page and you'll find the full cuesheet with the credits. <br>Edmund - how do you think Zimmer wrote Dunkirk when he was on a world tour !!!Congratulations to Ben, Lorne also .Edmund - the release dates do not matter . Check out Balfe’s Facebook page and you will see he was recording 12 Strong early last year .I've only heard the suite Hybrid made. The only similarity I was aware of is the siren-like sound. <br><br>People don't realize how difficult scoring Dunkirk was. Just because you love Interstellar (I do too - it's my favorite HZ score) but that doesn't mean Dunkirk doesn't deserve to win. <br>Edmund, in all honesty what are the similarities between 12 Strong and Dunkirk? I know both scores and fail to see how they connect.
Doesn't deserve an Oscar. Hans Zimmer is my favorite composer but if he didn't win for Interstellar, he shouldn't win for this. <br><br>I can seriously say that I object this score winning based on that principle. This winning over Interstellar just isn't right.Well, the credits say that Supermarine or the oil are pure Zimmer, and also the 3 first track I think. So Balfe helped him to develop some ideas during his tour but the majority of the score is Hans' work.<br>And it does deserve an Oscar. I never heard a score like that.. If you have a problem with the score I think it comes from the script. A classical melodical music wouldn t work for this film i think.Source? I find that hard to believe considering the release dates. Even if it is true, Balfe might have been concurrently working on Dunkirk and brought over some of the ideas. I find it spectacularly improbably that he and Hans just HAPPENED to come up with the same ideas at the same time.Edmund - gets you facts right please . 12 Strong was written before DunkirkHere's an interesting opinion: I want Hans to win this one so that he DOESN'T continue making music like this. Sure its functional, but if he could reinvent the melodic score again and get back to writing memorable melodies I'd be pretty happy. He won for Lion King and then essentially abandoned that tone of music which transitioned into the Crimson Tide/The Rock sound... so maybe, just maybe, if he wins this year he'll completely reinvent his sound again and give us something both melodically memorable but also be a total game changer in terms of modern scores.
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Hans ZimmerHarry Gregson-WilliamsDon HarperJay Rifkin
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Broken Arrow (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 95'32
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  1. Rope-A-Dope (5:04)
  2. The Bomber (1:53)
  3. Campers (0:39)
  4. Going To War (6:17)
  5. Wreckage (0:16)
  6. The Pentagon (1:16)
  7. The Search - Broken Arrow (2:42)
  8. Desert Dawn (3:41)
  9. Day Search (1:28)
  10. Right Down There (3:26)
  11. Something's Coming (3:50)
  12. 10,000 Years (2:15)
  13. Humvee Chase (4:54)
  14. Mine Shaft 1 (1:53)
  15. Mine Shaft 2 (15:49)
  16. Big Bang (2:15)
  17. Butterflies (1:57)
  18. The Boat - Stowaway (3:27)
  19. Breaking Orders (2:19)
  20. Eat A Bullet (2:15)
  21. Hammerhead (17:04)
  22. Nuke Disarmed (End Credits) (7:33)
  23. Eat A Bullet (Alternate) (3:35)
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Bayhem reply Replies: 5 || 2017-07-15 21:34:04
No need for me to say that I absolutely adore that score. Some truly amazing cues. I wonder though, are there any other Zimmer scores, or tracks, with heavy Western influences and elements? Aside from this and Rango...


Bondo2017-07-17 01:04:33
Listen to his unused Gladiator theme "Duduk of the North" and you'll hear some serious Western influences ;)


...2017-07-17 01:06:48
And Lone Ranger of course....


Patrick2017-07-17 01:11:03
...and of course "Parlay" in Pirates Of The Carribbean 3


JR2017-07-17 04:37:12
A bit of Western elements, you should also check :
- Thelma & Louise (action cues are Nice!)
- An everlasting Piece (a good jam session with a large variety of instruments, including Western influence)


Bayhem2017-07-17 13:20:39
Awesome! Thanks for the recommendations, folks. Off to check them out.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-08-03 00:00:00
@ Sam, "For me... There is no difference between Comercial Released and This kind of Bootleg CD.."

Then you clearly dont know the score that well! The commercial CD is mixed (badly) in places and the cues are not standalone like on this edition.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-07-08 00:00:00
Much appreciated! I always like knowing who wrote what and trying to figure it all out based on each composer's "sound."

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2009-07-08 00:00:00
@ Bondo

Some licensing sites are giving credits to Gregson-Williams for the Main Titles ("Brothers") along with Harper and Zimmer. That's everything I have about HGW on Broken Arrow.

I know for sure that Harper wrote the cues Boat (CD2 track4), Breaking Orders (CD2 track5) and Train Fight (CD2 track6). I know, the tracknames aren't the same... but the bootleg's tracklist is fanmade, not official. Boat and Train Fight are mixed together and named "Broken Arrow Suite" on one of Harper's promo.
And Harper is given credits for Breaking Orders on some licensing sites. It's fun to see he wrote many cues that follow each other, like if Zimmer told him "from reel #20 to reel #26, YOU write ALL the music". :-)
I don't know if Harper composed other cues.

Zimmer is credited ALONE on the following cues : "Desert Dawn" (CD1 track8) and Mine Shaft (*probably - due to the track name* CD1 track12, but could also be CD2 track1).

Hope it helps.

I have also noticed that there are a few cues missing on this bootleg, mostly from the scene with the nukes in the canyon, just after the crash. Not the best cues of the score, but enjoyable ones nonetheless.

Ruthlessgravity reply Replies: 0 || 2009-05-05 00:00:00
@ Bondo

Besides writing additional music? Not sure, could be possible that he just wrote filler music - the songs that are like a 40 some seconds long.

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2009-05-05 00:00:00
Any ideas what tracks Harry Gregson-Williams worked on?

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-17 00:00:00
Great thing that this one has a proper good quality No FX version - IMHO it's one of Zimmer's finest action scores. Now only if The Lion King also gets a similar quality boot... ;D

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-02 00:00:00
Really good stuff in here. But I think they ran out of creative juice when it came for a tracklisting! hehe

Mikel Carmona S.i.W ( from Spain) reply Replies: 0 || 2008-03-26 00:00:00
You are right, Hybrid Soldier

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-21 00:00:00
No, axel...

The theme of Broken Arrow IS in Scream !


;-)

axel reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-21 00:00:00
It's a good score.
N.B. : The love theme from Scream 2 (theme which is not on the complete score 2 CD composed by Marco Beltrami) is in the score of Broken Arrow !!!

fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2007-02-19 00:00:00
my favorite score. I have searched a lot for it and I'm not disapponted. Many adds by comparison with the commercial score. Amazing !!!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2006-08-20 00:00:00
Got my hands on this one, awesome to say the least.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2006-07-26 00:00:00
Yeah you try finding it! :P

Took me a while to get it and I did stumble on it through a friend but that was after I bought it. This CD is laser etched etc. and I got it pretty cheap! =D

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2006-07-25 00:00:00
Wow, you paid money for a bootleg? Crazy nut!

xeriouxi reply Replies: 0 || 2006-07-23 00:00:00
Just bought this... hope that it's the real thing! ^^;

ReddragonAvidFan reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-18 00:00:00
here's the covers
i made 3 different back for people who like the movie
choose the one u prefer

http://plissken.free.fr/Covers/B/B.htm

ReddragonAvidFan reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-17 00:00:00
Excellent idea this 2cds

will do a new cover asap!!!
will let u know

Dark reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-12 00:00:00
this one is a true must-one
excellent quality

S reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-12 00:00:00
Indeed, this one is the BEST version so far.

But the cover inserts are sooo bad....

Antas, Webmaster reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-11 00:00:00
yes, the official release contains the main interesting cues fortunately

Sam reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-11 00:00:00
For me...

There is no difference between Comercial Released and This kind of Bootleg CD...

Antas, Webmaster reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-11 00:00:00
All tracks are stereo and very good quality :-)

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-11 00:00:00
Ah... Good old Broken Arrow. Nice find guys! I think you guys at HZ.com have come across a treasure vault of the former Media Ventures compositions, eh? You seem to find more no-fx soundtracks than ever before!

Anyway, don't tell me there are mono tracks in this one like TLK!! ;-)

Angel reply Replies: 0 || 2006-06-11 00:00:00
So there was a complete score afterall...

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