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Hans Zimmer is one of the biggest film composers working in the industry today. He won an Academy Award for his work on The Lion King, and has been nominated for six other films including Gladiator, The Thin Red Line, and As Good As It Gets. With The Last Samurai he celebrates his 100th film score, and SoundtrackNet had an opportunity to talk with Hans a few weeks ago during a rare break in his busy schedule working on Something's Gotta Give.<br><br>You've scored many projects during your career, and The Last Samurai is being touted as your 100th film score…<br><br>Well, I'm terrible with math, so I'm not doing the counting. It could be more, it could be less – but apparently it's the 100th.<br><br>So how did you get involved with the project?<br><br>If you're lucky enough to get nominated for an Oscar, you get invited to the Oscar nominee's luncheon where they hand out these little nomination certificates. There are usually 150 people standing there, and people are invited up in alphabetical order, starting with the As. By the time they get to the Cs, everybody's already back at their table chatting and eating, and while the first people called get thunderous applause, you can imagine what it's like when your name starts with Z!<br><br>So Ed Zwick and I were standing there, waiting at one of these luncheons about four years ago, and we started talking to each other. I asked him what he was working on and he told me about this movie called The Last Samurai, which I thought sounded interesting and I asked him to send me a script. After the script arrived, I didn't hear from him for a long time and I thought he'd forgotten about me, not thinking about how difficult it is to set up a samurai movie these days. The other thing I liked about the project was that Tom Cruise was involved, so it was like returning home, since I've scored a bunch of his movies – I knew we were going to have a good time.<br><br>Did it end up that way?<br><br>Ed and his editor Steve Rosenblum are such gentlemen, so together and professional, and they basically did one cut of the film, screened it, and everyone loved their work. So after this, they had plenty of time to come and hang with me, and while I usually love the re-cutting process because it's a diversionary tactic to keep the director and editor out of my life, these guys were great to have around. <br><br>Of course, my sense of paranoia made me think that something was going wrong all the time, waiting for the other shoe to drop, as it were, but it never happened. Ed phoned this morning and I thought, "Oh my god – rewrite!" It's just how my brain works. But I think he and I feel a bit odd now: we've been seeing each other every day for months, and suddenly we're done. I completely understand why people have a problem finishing a movie, because there's something really nice about the process – completion is far more boring.<br><br>For Samurai, you used Japanese percussions and ethnic woodwinds, without getting too 'Japanese'.<br><br>My problem is that I feel Japanese music is really inaccessible to Western ears, and I was really struggling with this film initially, trying to figure out what I was doing. This idea popped into my head for using Western-style themes, but applying a Japanese aesthetic to them, which sounds great of course, until I had to ask myself what I meant! Actually, I think it's just my way of not overloading certain things with too many colors, or being geometrically precise about my cues and not making them too flowery.<br><br>The Tom Cruise character is one of those nasty drunks at the beginning, who obviously has some serious problems he's trying to deal with, or not deal with. He's obnoxious and restless, suffering sleepless nights and is very un-Tom. For me, this character's journey was about his need to earn tranquility and peace, so within the score there's this very romantic, overblown and passionate theme. It's like a juvenile way of dealing with life and death – the pain and liebestod.<br><br>However, to contrast with these very relentless themes, there are a number of stark, formal and sober pieces, because I wanted to take Tom's character on a journey. He comes from America and ends up in this foreign place where he doesn't speak the language or understand the culture. But at the end of the movie, I want the audience to think that there isn't a more beautiful place for him to be, that he is at home in Japan and finally at peace.<br><br>There are many useless acts of bravery we do out of misguided romanticism, and this movie is full of courageous and dignified acts of bravery. So I wanted to play off these acts, since both the American and Japanese cultures have a concept of heroism, and I just wanted to see if I could play with the nature of the two different concepts.<br><br>So you didn't want to do the stereotypical Japanese thing...<br><br>Absolutely not! Take Akira Kurosawa's Ran, for example, which has this brilliant score where Takemitsu writes Western music, but with an Eastern accent. Somebody asked me a few days ago why As Good As It Gets was European – why did I write a European score for a quintessentially American story? For me, it's because Jack Nicholson was crazy in the movie, and I felt one of the great things about America is how they always think we Europeans are crazy. So by writing a European-styled score, it's my way of saying that Jack is crazy, but it's alright!<br><br>How do you feel about people who criticize your work for not fitting into the time period, like Gladiator?<br><br>The reason I take these jobs is because I'm interested in foreign cultures, and every time I get to work on a movie I'm thrown into the adventure of whatever that culture is, the time, and wherever the story's taking place. So one of the things I'm very careful about is not to be historically correct to the culture, but, on the other hand, not to insult the underlying aesthetics of that culture either. I remember watching Chariots of Fire and thinking how brilliantly the music worked, never missing that it wasn't period instruments! I grew up listening to Bach played by a symphony orchestra – it's the wrong sized orchestra with the wrong instruments, but I don't think that's the point.<br><br>With Gladiator, Pietro Scalia brought in a CD saying "this is Ancient Roman music," and I said, "Says who? You went to the Ancient Roman music store and bought an Ancient Roman music CD? Bullshit!" We're not anthropologists. Look at he costumes Ridley Scott had: they were more Napoleonic than Roman, which was perhaps fitting since Napoleon had stolen all of his good ideas from the Romans regarding how to make his generals look cool – and so did Hitler! So I got criticized for making the "Entry into Rome" cue too Leni Riefenstahl – but that was the joke! I am allowed to have a sense of humor in my music!<br><br>Earlier this summer your credit on Pirates of the Caribbean was "Score Overproduced by". What was the deal with that?<br><br>Well, I thought honesty was a virtue! But seriously, Jerry Bruckheimer quite rightly asked me not to give him "that old-fashioned Pirate music," and Gore Verbinski, who I adore and did The Ring with, said, "Well, it is a pirate movie, so we have to disguise it." In the end, I spent a day and a half writing tunes, Klaus Badelt wrote a lot of stuff, and we rolled up our sleeves, got drunk, behaved in a debauched way, and produced a score!<br><br>There was a lot of criticism regarding that score, but in the end it had to serve the film - which it did. You seem to get a lot of criticism on any project you do.<br><br>I had the misfortune of going onto the Film Score Monthly web site recently to look something up and vanity made me type in my own name. I suddenly realized that you can't ever get it right. Who do people want me to be? The guy that writes Matchstick Men? Or the guy that writes The Rock? Or the guy that writes Driving Miss Daisy? My need is ultimately to write for myself. I mock myself and I'm ironic about the way I speak about it because if I take it too seriously, it would be a pompous and boring thing to do. But at the same time I take each note I write very seriously – none of them are random.<br><br>The Internet Movie Database always lists you as being attached to multiple projects, so I was curious, what's Sharktail?<br><br>I complained to Jeffrey Katzenberg that I couldn't cross any more Red Seas, or deal with any more horses that can't speak – I wanted to do one of the fun animated movies instead. There's also a hip-hop element in Sharktail, and I haven't been there yet, so it's new territory! King Arthur is still in production, and I literally just got the first bits of footage just before you came here.<br><br>Are you working on all of these projects simultaneously?<br><br>I'm thinking about them! I'm also working with Jim Brooks on his new comedy, Spanglish.<br><br>And speaking of comedies, you recently did Matchstick Men for Ridley, which had a very Nino Rota vibe to it....<br><br>And I gave him credit! I thought, what if Nino had written the theme and I was just doing the variations? But I bet I'm going to get criticized for that because it's not like Gladiator.<br><br>So when did you last have a vacation?<br><br>Well, I went to Japan for a couple of days at the end of November for the Japanese premiere of Samurai, but look, I love what I do! In January I'll travel to Morocco because Ridley will be shooting his next movie, Kingdom of Heaven, so that's like a holiday!<br><br>My family and I are going away at Christmas, and what we used to do would be to rent a house in the mountains and go on these skiing holidays. It would be a crappy house, not as nice as the one we live in, my wife was still going to the market, and we're still washing our plates – so it wasn't a vacation, it was a lot of work! It's taken us a long time, but we just figured it out: we're not practical with vacations – we're staying at hotels! But while the Zimmer family isn't talented when it comes to vacations, we're talented when it comes to work!<br><br>I sat through Samurai the other day, and for the first time watched the whole movie from top to tail with everything finished and completed. It felt really good, better than a vacation. But luckily there were enough things wrong for me to think that I learned something from the experience, and now I can't wait for the next project to try these new ideas out.<br><br>The soundtrack to The Last Samurai is available from Elektra Records, and the film is currently in theaters. Matchstick Men is available on Varese Sarabande Records.<br><br>With thanks to Chet Mehta at Chasen & Co, Jason Cienkus at Warner Brothers, and Nina Lynch and Mark Wherry at Media Ventures for helping with this interview. And, of course, special thanks to Hans.Mulan get his release... through Disney+, 4th September.Mulan is being released on sept 4th. Can't wait to hear Harry's score!!!!Here's an interview about Last Samurai from Soundtrack.net https: //www.soundtrack. net/content/article/?id=112You can find an interview with Hans on his process for TLS on soundtrack.net somewhere, back in 2003 or 2004
The tracklist they posted has 58 tracks and yours contains only 54<br>interesting thing, He never really spoke about Last Samurai. but you have to realize, even when He speaks, its not always the truth. <br><br>The only thing I know, in 2013 doing press for Rush, He really said the hardest job was Last Samurai, well its not true according to himself, if you watch the behind the scenes stuff from Matchstick Men from 2003, right there He says that he was working on 3 huge films, (tears of the sun / Pirates / last samurai) and Mathstick men was the absolute hardest for him.<br><br>also Ed Zwick talks about working with Hans on the dvd commentary sometimes, but nothing really fancy.<br><br>Im sure there is an interview for this film with him, since he was at the premierI am struggling to find an interview where Hans speaks about this soundtrack. Does it even exist? <br>I spent the last hours digging but nothing. I always desired to hear some comments about it, like he does for the other works he's done.<br>I know it's a far stretch for Hans To release docu scores, but am really curious as to what Brave Miss World, Believer and Jalous of the Birds sound like...<br><br><br>@Mephariel<br>You can find Great Bear Rainforest on bleedingfingersmusic.com under Anze RozmanMondo only offered to send me a return label and a refund. No info yet on if they plan to fix it. :-/
Mine arrived today and is definitely sped up.LOL klaus badelt hardly composed pirates 1You know what? I love the booklet credits! Klaus Badelt is the same guy who scored Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl.Thanks Hybrid soldier for the good news<br>I can't wait to see the documental film and hear the score of lorne balfe & hans zimmer.A score will be released.<br><br>You can always count on Lorne for that. It's in the works.
What was the last Zimmer documentary score that they released outside of BBC? <br><br>I am still waiting for The Great Bear Rainforest.I hope they can the soundtrack release for "Rebuilding Paradise" composed by Hans zimmer & Lorne balfe, including an original song for the film. I hope there is a possibility that they will release the score.How to get this at all?Any news about Rebuilding Paradise soundtrack?@Hybrid:<br>Any news about a release for Ron Howard "Rebuilding Paradise" soundtrack by Hans ans Lorne. The documentary airing today. Any info will be much Appreciated.
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The Rock (Complete Score)
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  1. Opening (3:54)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  2. Naval Weapons Depot (4:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  3. Baby Gas (2:26)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  4. Romance #1 (0:19)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  5. Tour's Over, Bob (3:29)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper, Steven Stern
  6. Hummel Speech - Alcatraz Reopened (2:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  7. Hummel's Demands To Pentagon (1:21)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  8. Romance #2 (0:46)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  9. Mason Montage (1:24)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Steven Stern
  10. San Francisco Montage (1:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Russ Landau
  11. Interrogation (1:02)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Steven Stern
  12. The Quarter (0:41)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Steven Stern
  13. Window Crash - Fairmont (2:07)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Steven Stern
  14. Haircut - Escape: The Chase!! (8:22)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Don Harper
  15. Goodspeed Tracks Jade (0:49)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  16. Jade (1:59)
    Nick Glennie-Smith
  17. Blueprints (1:06)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  18. Hummel - SEALs (7:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  19. Mason Into Furnace - SEALs Tunnel (1:14)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper
  20. In The Tunnels (3:32)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Don Harper, Steven Stern
  21. SEAL Attack (4:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Steven Stern
  22. Aftermath (0:49)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  23. Bombs (3:43)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  24. Hammer Head (1:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  25. The Morgue (2:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  26. Indiana Jones - Fight With Marines (4:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  27. Hostage - Goodspeed Captured (5:35)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  28. Plasma Bomb Is Ready (0:51)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  29. Mason's Walk (4:10)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  30. First Launch (1:54)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  31. President's Lament (1:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  32. Mission's Over (5:28)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  33. Final Attack (3:07)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  34. The Last Chip (2:26)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  35. Finale (Part 1) (2:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  36. Finale (Part 2) (3:24)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  37. Fort Walton, Kansas (1:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  38. Hummel - SEALs (Alternate) (1:56)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  39. In The Tunnels (Alternate 1) (1:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper
  40. In The Tunnels (Alternate 2) (1:31)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper
  41. Fort Walton, Kansas (Alternate) (1:40)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
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Seer reply Replies: 12 || 2015-08-06 07:37:06
There's a new recording session out. How legit/complete is it? Anyone know the source?

ROCK_1M1 Main Titles
ROCK_1M2 Hummel Gets the Rockets
ROCK_2M3 Stanley Disarms The Bomb
ROCK_2M4A Carla Proposes
ROCK_2M5 Alcatraz Takeover
ROCK_2M6 Hummel's Speech
ROCK_3M6A Hummel's Demands
ROCK_3M7A Stanley and Carla
ROCK_3M8 He Does Exist
ROCK_4M9 FBI Arrival
ROCK_4M10 Paxton Briefs Mason
ROCK_4M11 The Quarter
ROCK_4M12 Mason Breaks The Mirror
ROCK_5M15 Mason Prepares His Escape
ROCK_5M16 San Francisco Chase
ROCK_5M17 Stanley Tails Jade
ROCK_5M18 Mason Meets Jade
ROCK_6M18A Mason's Blueprint
ROCK_6M18B The Mission (Insert)
ROCK_6M18B The Mission
ROCK_6M18C The Furnace
ROCK_7M19 Welcome To The Rock (Alt.)
ROCK_7M19 Welcome To The Rock
ROCK_8M20 Shower Room Massacre
ROCK_8M21A Hummel Mourns
ROCK_8M21B Bombs Away
ROCK_9M22 Into The Morgue
ROCK_9M23 Close On The Morgue
ROCK_10M24A Tunnel Fight
ROCK_10M24B Mason's Walk
ROCK_11M25 Thermite Plasma
ROCK_11M26A The Final Hour
ROCK_11M26B Rocket Away
ROCK_12M27 Air Strike Approved
ROCK_12M28 Mutiny
ROCK_12M29 The Last Rocket
ROCK_13M30 Goodspeed and Frye Fight
ROCK_13M31A-B Green Smoke
ROCK_13M31B Green Smoke (Alt.)
ROCK_13M32 Fort Walton
ROCK_14M33 End Credits
ROCK_A Simple Victory (Demo)
ROCK_Guitar Study (Demo)
ROCK_In The Dark Place (Demo)
ROCK_Main Theme - More Developed And BIG (Demo)
ROCK_Main Theme (Unused)
ROCK_Mystery To Love Theme To Bell Theme (Demo)
ROCK_Pastorale (Demo)
ROCK_Portent Theme To Noble Theme (Demo)
ROCK_Theme That Builds (Demo)
ROCK_Theme That Builds With Groove (Demo)
ROCK_The Rock Demos (Demo I, Demo II, Demo III)

T-Mann0362015-08-06 17:26:10
It's real, it's complete, and it's 100% legit!

Scorefan2015-08-06 19:51:56
Well it's completely legit and 100% real, but these 2 cues posted here by Hybrid are missing from the sessions:

40.In The Tunnels (Alternate 2) (1:31)
41.Fort Walton, Kansas (Alternate) (1:40)

With these two cues the sessions would be complete.

Magnus Rex2015-08-07 07:57:29
This is not entirely legitimate. For one, it's partially made from an older fan edit which crossfades some cues. The real sessions have clean openings and endings to each piece. In addition the "demos", as far as I can tell, are almost all fake (or else Hybrid would have surely added them here). They sound nothing like The Rock score. The only real demos are the I, II and III pieces, which come from an old NGS promo.

Hybrid Soldier2015-08-07 08:28:05
The demos are real.

I never added some for some reason. But trust me they are all legitimate...

Scorefan2015-08-07 21:01:11
Thanks Hybrid

Angelos2015-08-08 10:29:10
So, da shit is real dawg.....

Dat question is : when is LLL going to make this an official release? You know, give it a good remastering and make it official....

T-Mann0362015-08-08 17:04:55
Intrada would be an excellent choice to release The Rock complete film score.

Angelos2015-08-08 18:08:35
Ya dawg, Intrada would do too...

Anonymous2015-08-10 20:38:52
Given that a certain someone keeps leaking recording sessions that more often than not end up getting an official release (Wyatt Earp, Jennifer 8, The Ghost and the Darkness, etc.), perhaps a label is going to release this at some point in the future? Who knows; the two occurrences may not be linked at all.

HunterTech2020-05-18 06:57:02
Sorry to be resurrecting an older thread, but are there any proper credits for these demos? I assume Ideas I-III were just NGS, but what about the rest?

Hybrid Soldier2020-05-18 09:34:42
Demos are all Nick.

Selderane2020-06-10 07:36:07
Where does one even find this stuff?

Scorefan reply Replies: 3 || 2019-11-11 22:46:08
@Hybrid would you update the complete score with the new tracklist? Thanks

Hybrid Soldier2019-11-11 23:09:50
What.

Scorefan2019-11-12 06:39:25
i mean, the page, would you update with the tracklist posted years ago?

Hybrid Soldier2019-11-12 19:58:48
Why would I ever do that ?


Tracklist is the real one... -_-

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 4 || 2019-08-20 15:06:08
OK, so a thought...

"Opening" and "SEAL Attack" are functionally identical; Hybrid says that Hans originally wrote it for the latter scene and it was then placed over the main titles of the film. However, the former is credited to Hans and NGS, the latter to Hans, HGW and Steven Stern. Presumably, since HGW/Stern aren't credited on "Opening", their contribution to "SEAL Attack" is limited to that first minute, which does indeed have a lot of HGW-ish percussion work to my ears. That leaves the rest of "SEAL Attack" as Hans' work alone, which begs the question: why the heck is NGS credited for "Opening", then, since it's basically identical? Screw it, I'm labeling that a solo Hans cue. Always bugged me that there wasn't at least one on this score. :p
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Edmund Meinerts2019-08-20 15:12:41
I'm sorry, disregard EVERYTHING I just wrote...The credit on "SEAL Attack" is HZ/NGS/Stern, not HZ/HGW/Stern. Not sure how I missed that. *facepalm*

Mike2019-08-20 15:57:43
I remember hearing something about NGS not wanting his name in the opening credits since it was a Hans cue playing. So yeah. I think the opening is really just Zimmer and the NGS credit is a formality since it was supposed to be Nick’s score.

GermanRCPFan2019-08-20 20:41:55
Listen to the first demo at NGS demos album of "The Rock". The opening and SEAL Attack have a few notes from original NGS theme. That's why NGS is credited to it.

Mr Tweedy2019-08-21 09:35:17
I was honored, back in 2006, to meet both Nick Glennie-Smith and Harry Gregson-Williams.

I talked with both about The Rock, and here's what they told.

Nick & Hans worked very closely on most of their cues. That's why it's so hard to notice any difference between their own styles (and why they share most of the credits).
Harry worked separately from Nick & Hans. He remembered working on the San Francisco Chase (though we know Don Harper helped at some point in the process), and on "a lot of the action material from the second half of the movie, once the heroes reach Alcatraz".
The credits here tend to prove they were right.

All the Opening Titles / SEAL Attack is a bit complicated. Hans might have written the theme, but it also might be arranged for pictures by Nick Glennie-Smith (plus there's a lot more going on in these tracks than the man theme alone). So, well, I guess the final result still is a collaborative effort.

Alictron98 reply Replies: 0 || 2019-05-20 15:49:58
Why is this available on Amazon US and not UK?

Bayhem reply Replies: 5 || 2019-05-15 11:08:54
I've been listening to the complete score for the past few days and I've been reading a lot of comments and articles about it...….And my conclusion is: this IS the greatest action score in film history. I honestly can't think of a better score for a straight-up action movie (though Armageddon, Eraser and Broken Arrow come close).

Most of today's action scores are, frankly, very forgettable and bland. No themes, no actual melodies, no consistency, nada. You can't even compare them to The Rock. The Rock seems to be in a league of its own. Completely untouchable.

Anyway, I would love to hear your thoughts on the matter, folks :) Is there a consensus among MV/RC fans on The Rock? Is it the best? Or I'm alone on this and I'm just an overreacting fan? lol.

Mephariel2019-05-15 17:05:00
One of the greatest action scores for sure. I love The Rock as a movie was well. The 90s had some of the greatest action movie scores ever. You got The Rock, Twister, Face/Off, Armageddon, etc.

But yeah, The Rock is awesome. The opening theme is probably Zimmer's best in the genre. Then you have "The Chase" and "Rockets Away" providing sustained entertainment.

Michael Baker2019-05-15 19:36:42
I love this score and I don't want that called into question, but I can't help thinking scores like Crimson Tide and The Peacemaker take the same basic sound and do a better job with it. Those two are mostly Hans, obviously, and they just sound more cohesive. I have nothing against any of the composers who worked on The Rock, but to my ears, the Nick Glennie-Smith stuff sounds obviously different from the Hans Zimmer stuff, and they both sound very different from the Harry Gregson-Williams stuff. And the transitions are a tad jarring at times. I've never seen anyone else post this opinion before, though, so I may be the only one!

Bayhem2019-05-16 08:32:58
The 90s had some of the greatest action movie scores ever
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Without a doubt. I grew up in the 90s and I was there for all of it. Truly one of the best decades for film music (and for cinema in general). I mean, it's the decade that changed action scores forever. Exactly because of scores like The Rock, Twister, Armageddon, Crimson Tide and The Peacemaker. Granted, Harold Faltermeyer kinda started it all in the mid-80s with his work on Top Gun, Tango and Cash and Beverly Hills Cop 2, but it was Hans and his team who really got the ball rolling. By the way, I'm super happy that Hans and Faltermeyer are teaming up for Top Gun 2. At least according to IMDb....


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The opening theme is probably Zimmer's best in the genre
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Agreed. It's the ultimate Zimmer power anthem. I know the younger generation knows Hans mainly from his work on comicbook movies like Batman and Spider Man, but for me, 90's Zimmer will always be the best Zimmer. And my favorite Zimmer :))

Bayhem2019-05-16 09:21:31
I have nothing against any of the composers who worked on The Rock, but to my ears, the Nick Glennie-Smith stuff sounds obviously different from the Hans Zimmer stuff, and they both sound very different from the Harry Gregson-Williams stuff. And the transitions are a tad jarring at times. I've never seen anyone else post this opinion before, though, so I may be the only one!
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That's actually very interesting. Never thought of it that way. And you're right. For those who are well aware of the overall MV/RC sound, there is indeed a difference between the Zimmer style and the Glennie-Smith style. However, I think that the two styles blend pretty well in The Rock. The movie itself allows for that. So I would argue that, while watching the actual movie, the two styles work very well together and they complement each other.

But listening to the score alone, yes, I can definitely see where you're coming from. The differences are obvious. Having said that, I still consider it to be a masterpiece of action scoring. And not only action. The emotional bits are great too. JADE is an extremely beautiful and tender track :))

P.S. The Peacemaker is on my personal TOP 5 of the greatest action scores of all time. I can't believe the score is not as popular as The Rock. Same for Eraser, by the way. Watch the movie again on a good sound system and you'll be blown away by the awesome Silvestri score. I really wish those two scores were more popular with the public......

Mr Tweedy2019-05-18 11:04:44
Though there are differences, I think HZ & NGS styles mix together rather well.

Tracks like "Fort Walton", "Goodspeed Tracks Jade" or "Jade" are exceptions for sure. Apart from these, most tracks blend very well, imo.
It's very different from Armageddon for exemple, when team Trevor and team Harry had very different styles (big anthems & guitars VS darker material and more subtle theme developments) and also different sound equipments (I can tell immediately who did what thanks to the sound banks they used). The Rock doesn't suffer from those extreme differences imo.

We fans here listened to those scores for over 20 years and we've learnt how to spot each composer (thanks to this website and all the infos on each track we got over the years). I'm not sure I could have noticed all those details back in 1996, or even 10 years ago.

Nonetheless, The Rock is one of the greatest action scores ever. While more coherent scores like Crimson Tide or The Fan grew on me over the years, The Rock keeps a very special place in my heart.

SPECTER reply Replies: 1 || 2019-04-24 02:53:21
When did this album come out?

Dennis2019-04-24 05:42:51
years ago

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 8 || 2018-10-30 00:51:23
Cuesheet updated here as well...

mpolonest1232018-10-30 01:24:31
Thanks! It’s interesting how much NGS was involved with the whole thing, regardless of “being replaced” by Zimmer. And I guess this confirms that JNH had no involvement, unless he was either uncredited or just acted as a consultant.

Mike2018-10-30 06:16:06
Interesting this doesn't have any sort of "theme demo" for Hans' replacement theme... Did Hans just kinda dash it off to picture or something?

Hybrid Soldier2018-10-30 08:31:25
There was no time to make demos !

Hans started with "Seal Attack" in fact, before it even became the Opening Titles !

Don Harper left the project in the middle of it and had HGW redo most of his things !

1232018-10-30 10:30:04
Thank you Hybrid, very cool

Hybrid Soldier2018-10-30 10:33:25
As for JNH, words I heard was more like he was thanked because Hans asked him if he could rip him off ! lol And the cue "Hummel / SEALs" sounds a lot like JNH...

Kent Öberg2018-10-30 12:53:53
Hybrid, why did you change some of the titles?

Hybrid Soldier2018-10-30 13:00:36
Yes, with the actual cuesheet cue titles... :)


Except for "The Last Chip", couldn't find that one...

Mr Tweedy2018-10-30 13:13:54
HGW told me, back in 2006 during a chat, that Nick and Hans spent most of their time writing cues together for The Rock, while he wrote a lot of action cues from the middle of the movie.
He also remembered working on a "San Francisco Chase" with Don Harper.
The official credits found here by Hybrid confirms all this!

Bayhem reply Replies: 3 || 2018-01-03 20:26:47
I still wonder if the rumors about James Newton Howard 'helping out' on the score are true? If it's true then this would be the first Newton Howard/Zimmer collaboration. Not the Nolan Batman films :)

James Callahan2018-01-03 23:17:11
The rumors are true. I read this in some 1997 post of somewhere on the internet that I do not remember now.

Bayhem2018-01-03 23:30:25
Wow, that is great. What a crew then!

lol2018-01-04 13:11:37
Yes if you read it somehwere random on the internet in 1997 then surely it must be true

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2017-01-13 23:04:06
There's a new tracklist here :)

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2016-05-18 20:54:36
Hybrid, please tell HZ that this is your favorite score ever, and beg him to play a small little piece from it at the last show in France, as he promised us something special for this show! I'm sure he can be persuaded :-D

KLF reply Replies: 2 || 2015-01-29 03:33:17
Track #40 - In The Tunnels Alt. 2 - this is on the CD OST somewhere?

Jemima2015-04-13 18:02:40
Hey.

So where can one buy this?

Also is there an "official" complete version? Cause there are plenty of "completes" out there, all with different track listings, some with SFX, some without
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Cheers.

Damien, Moderator2015-04-13 20:44:05
As all score marked "Unofficial Release", you can't.

High reply Replies: 1 || 2014-07-17 13:49:55
Would be soo nice, if Zimmer would make a long version of "Fort Walton" or if he did so, show us this masterpiece..

High2014-07-17 13:53:23
As I found out, there is an alternate take with Nick Smith.. ;)

Bioscope reply Replies: 1 || 2014-05-05 06:09:29
This suddenly looks more complete. Does that mean its finally out there, no sfx?

Anonymous2014-05-05 23:51:50
it's just added credits

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 7 || 2014-05-04 20:59:20
For the new credits here (sorry in advance for overly anal-ness, Hybrid...). Wherever Zimmer appears, is it because he actually had a hand in those cues or is it just because of his theme?

Mike2014-05-04 21:00:28
Well, I think we can definitely say he did the Opening, right...?

Mike2014-05-04 21:02:25
Also, sorry for making two posts in a row, but I guess he also did some of the Fort Walton, Kansas cue, because his name is there, but the main theme isn't in it.

Edmund Meinerts2014-05-04 21:06:31
I always thought that the only two really Zimmer cues in the score are the opening and Hummel's speech. But come to think of it you must be right about Fort Walton, Kansas. :)

Hybrid Soldier2014-05-04 21:51:19
No he actually wrote the score... No choice... Rescue...

With Nick of course but Mason's Walk or The Mission are clearly written by Hans himself...

Mike2014-05-04 22:01:26
That explains SO MUCH. Cues like "The Mission" always screamed that they were 100% Zimmer to me.

Hybrid Soldier2014-05-04 23:07:43
And Hans actually wrote the Opening Title for the SEAL Attack in the first place... It only became the Opening Title after... lol

Hybrid Soldier2014-05-05 08:48:02
Has someone any idea what San Francisco Montage might be ?

I know that cue is credited to Russ Landau (yeah... even he worked on that score lol...).

I always thought it was "Deadline"...

Mike reply Replies: 2 || 2014-01-03 23:48:15
Is the awesome opening cue by Zimmer or NGS?

marco2014-01-04 01:50:38
Hard to tell mate. It could be NGS as he efforts after the rock sound identical such as the man in the iron mask.

Michael H2014-01-04 11:28:47
The main theme in the opening credits is HZ...

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2013-11-16 22:17:25
Hybrid, can you write the credits please?

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2013-08-10 18:54:56
I find it odd that HGW is credited a principal composer on the cover. It seems like he just did a bit here and there.

Hybrid Soldier2013-08-10 19:44:36
Harry did a lot of the action cues in the middle of the movie...

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2013-08-10 11:04:01
Little HZ comment regarding his involvement on The Rock :

"I ended up writing the main themes, the scene where they all get killed... I think I had a hand in most cues by the end. I can't really remember all that much. Jerry, M. Bay and Nick was just not a good combination. Yes, I seem to remember the Hummel speech, and Harry learned how to write a car chase. Maybe a hundred times :)"

Evenstar2013-08-10 12:37:35
nice :)

Mike2013-08-10 18:11:21
Interesting timing. I was wondering about Zimmer's involvement here just a couple days ago. I imagine the album track "Hummel Gets the Rockets" has a lot of Hans in it, and I know his theme is used a lot throughout, but I didn't know he was involved with the cues, really. Thanks for the info.

Gav reply Replies: 1 || 2009-08-03 00:00:00
Sadly, this is NOT complete - only expanded. Some cues are missing.

Peter Jacobs2012-06-15 05:18:16
Exactly. The cue I notice immediately is the love theme between Goodspeed and his wife. A slower and more romantic version of Fort Walton, Kansas. I believe would be titled "Marriage"

Played as Goodspeed and his wife talk about getting married in San Francisco just after making love.

Peter Jacobs reply Replies: 0 || 2012-06-15 04:54:39
I'm waiting for the day La La Land or some company picks up this score and decides to release it in complete form. Hans Zimmer, NGS, HGW, and Don Harper all did a fantastic job on this.

Aggelos reply Replies: 0 || 2011-12-04 16:27:50
Folks, La-La Land has to release a complete edition for this score right here, right now for Christ's sake!!!!
One the best action scores ever!!!




H-GW: "I basically helped Nick Glennie Smith and Hans get through it - there was a mountain of music to be written and hardly any time (what's new), not to mention probably the most odious director alive plus the eternal task master Jerry "let's torture Harry now" Bruckheimer. The car chase was one of a few that became my responsibility. I thought Nick did a REALLY good job considering the circumstances."

Zimmer: "The main theme is mine, as are a few other bits. It's really hard to tell. I do have a huge influence in there. But I never really wanted to write any of it. It was always supposed to be Nick Glennie-Smith's score."


1 - Opening Titles - Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
2 - Hummel Gets The Rockets - Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
3 - Baby Doll* - Harry Gregson-Williams
4 - Rock House Jail - Nick Glennie-Smith
5 - Hummel's Speech - Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
6 - The Quarter* - Nick Glennie-Smith
7 - The Chase - Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Don Harper
8 - Jade - Nick Glennie-Smith
9 - Lift Off - Nick Glennie-Smith
10 - The Furnace - Welcome To The Rock - Don Harper, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
11 - The Shower Scene* - Nick Glennie-Smith
12 - Rodent Problem* - Harry Gregson-Williams
13 - The Morgue* - Harry Gregson-Williams
14 - In The Tunnels - Harry Gregson-Williams
15 - Off The Track - Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
16 - Mason's Walk - Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
17 - Deadline - Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
18 - First Launch - Harry Gregson-Williams
19 - Aftermath* - Nick Glennie-Smith
20 - Mutiny - Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
21 - Lighthouse - Harry Gregson-Williams
22 - The Last Chip - Harry Gregson-Williams
23 - Green Smoke - Nick Glennie-Smith
24 - Safe* - Nick Glennie-Smith
25 - Fort Walton Kansas - Nick Glennie-Smith

*Tracks not on the OST

Iceboy reply Replies: 0 || 2010-12-22 00:00:00
@Anon: Recording sessions are not necessarily complete. For example, the Blade recording sessions by Mark Isham are not complete, but are still labelled as such as they contain alternate and unused cues. The alternates and film mixes on this disc have NOT been released before and are NOT on any other version. The name of "recording sessions" is therefore more fitting, to differentiate it from the "expanded" versions out there.

Dante reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-29 00:00:00
The Rock is a rather good movie, but an awesome soundtrack

thx for ur piece of great music
I'm a kinda reserved man... I always keep what I feel deep inside not lettin' anyone guess what I really feel, but when I listened to some of these tracks it even drived a tear out of me.

Thx for that.
Cheers and GL.

Phantom250 reply Replies: 0 || 2009-12-03 00:00:00
THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST FILM I EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE, SO AWSOME WITH NICOLAS CAGE AND SEAN CONNERY TOGETHER IS AWSOME AND I LOVED (u cannot imagine how) THE MUSIC, IT'S ... AWSOME(i wish to make bigger letters but i cant)


Hans Zimmer OWNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and i like call of duty modern warfare 2 music too but not as much as THE ROCK.

thnks

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-09-06 00:00:00
The Tracklist below is a fanmade expanded score, the "recording session" label is wrong. Its the expanded version added with the tracks from NGS "The Rock Ideas" Bootleg. Fact: A "real" complete is still not available.

Bla reply Replies: 0 || 2009-09-04 00:00:00
The Rock (Recording Sessions)
CD1
01. Main Titles (3:49)
02. Hummel Gets The Rockets (4:15)
03. Terrorist Care Package (2:25)
04. Taking Over Alcatraz (3:31)
05. Hummel's Speech / Alcatraz Reopened (2:27)
06. Mason Breaks Window / Drive To The Hotel (2:08)
07. Rope Trick / The Chase (8:37)
08. Jade (2:02)
09. SEAL Incursion (7:14)
10. Welcome To The Rock / In The Tunnels (4:14)
11. Shower Room Shootout (4:54)
12. Flush The Pipes (3:45)
13. The Morgue (1:48)
14. Mine Cart Escape (2:01)
15. Battle In The Mine (4:12)
16. Mason Meets Hummel / Goodspeed Is Captured (5:36)
17. Preparing For Launch (4:08)
18. Missile Loose (1:54)
19. President's Speech (1:56)
20. Mutiny (5:24)
21. The Lighthouse (3:06)

CD2
01. Hunting Goodspeed (2:25)
02. Green Smoke / Hostages Alive (5:31)
03. Fort Walton, Kansas (1:35)
04. End Credits (4:51)
05. Main Titles (Demo) (2:42)
06. Hummel Gets The Rockets (Alternate) (4:18)
07. Terrorist Care Package (Alternate) (2:26)
08. Jade (Demo) (2:50)
09. SEAL Incursion (Alternate) (7:22)
10. Mine Cart Escape (Alternate) (2:13)
11. Green Smoke (Alternate) (2:38)
12. Kansas (Demo) (2:26)
13. Alternate I (1:38)
14. Alternate II (1:57)
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Total Duration: 02:04:16

isirius reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-02 00:00:00
what is the meaning The Score without SFX??

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-02 00:00:00
no sound effects

Music without sounds/voices from the movie.

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-17 00:00:00
As far as I'm concerned, it has most of the good cues from the score, and the quality's great. Great stuff! ;)

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