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But the scores comes out in 1th NovemberThe movie is out this Wednesday in some territories."In the third one he writes the "father and son" theme, it's okay but it's harmonically basic and the melody is UNMEMORABLE"<br><br><br>Aaaaaaaaaaaaand your whole analysis falls flat right there ! :PThanks Edmund.<br><br>@PaulH I am not meaning to say that Balfe cannot compose good music. There are compositions that I like: the Picasso theme is creative and well-written. Just that I find his arrangements of others more compelling usually than his own material.<br><br>An example that is good of this is kung fu panda. His arrangements of themes are really fun and energetic. In the third one he writes the "father and son" theme, it's okay but it's harmonically basic and the melody is unmemorable. Contrast to Hans: the Po theme and Spirit theme are precise, fun, harmonically clever, and memorable. But his score cues sometimes feel lacking: his transitions are clunky, the bridge material is uncreative and basic. <br><br>It must be so much fun to work on those projects together. Coming up with idea and hearing what someone can turn it into, or getting to play with someone's idea without the pressure of starting from scratch.And also, be prepared for more Studio Time for the score
Tom said in his Twitter: 'Details very soon'<br><br>Altough, is only a week awayThe Nils Frahm track was released years agoNo one is mentioning "Says" from Nils Frahm. What a masterpiece of music. Love how it develops and getting so emotional even with that futuristic sound-effect. One of the highlights of this score, with those tracks Cerbei mentioned.Balfe is a great arranger but an even better composer.Beyond Two Souls is still one of the best game soundtracks.<br><br>I must have watched another movie in regards to Balfe filling in the gaps - that makes no sense?The soundtrack released seems not to relate to what was actually used in the film.Balfe “gap” music is featured much more and works brilliantly<br>
Last night I was talking to Lorne, and he told me that in principle there is intention to release the full score.I'd be very interested to hear the supposed Balfe complete score to picture where he apparently sought to elevate it, as someone here put it. The Richter is pitch-perfect and works massively well to picture and, not dissing Balfe at all, his stuff is literally 'additional music' to fill the gaps.Aplusle, that's really well put actually.Don't feel bad. You've just summed up why Hans and Lorne make a good team. Lorne is by all accounts a fantastic arranger and can bring out the best in others' ideas but I sometimes find his own compositions are a bit basic or leave me cold. Hans on the other hand always nails the theme and the concept but his scoring to picture to me feels clunky and a bit amateurish, especially when the music is dense. <br><br>Both super talented in their own ways. :-)Is there anyway o get sheet music for Into the pie machine for orchestra?
Just saw Maleficent 2. There is a lot more Newton Howard in the movoe than there is on album.<br>I actually can't really understand why they didn't include the reprise of The Christening (the dinner scene) & the finale in the movie.<br><br>Zanelli's score is wonderful and I love it very much. But would have loved this on albumI can't imagine how someone likes Balfe's part over Richters. As you said Thomas, Richters work sounds more like suites, and Balfes work is written more to picture. BUT, it sounds to me also like a typical RCP-work with Hans. While Hans gives the direction with his suites and melodies, Balfe and co are adapting those suites to the specific scenes and writing some "new" stuff to fill any gap if there is any need of it, so they become additional composers in the credits.<br><br>And here, we have the same. Richter shows the direction and some cues are real intense and beautiful. Balfes parts sounding like a gap-filler. I don't want to talk bad about Balfe, he's a composing machine, but still i can't find anything remarkable on those parts and so i can't understand how Richters work hasn't been used but instead the more colorless cues from Balfes part :/<br><br>Again, don't feel insulted guys, it's just my sensationBalfe’s part is the best I think.<br>It also seems written to picture instead of just long suites.<br>My understanding is the Balfe wrote half of the score but the album doesn’t seem to represent that for some reason.I really liked Richter’s score over balfesI listened Max Richter for years. He is the kind of select or minority composer who does his solo works and soundtrack for movies not so famous. <br>His solo works are really really good with quintet and piano and voice. "on the nature of daylight" is definitely the best. <br>His sountrack is not good as his solo, to be honest. I think "the Leftovers" (2014-2017, HBO series), "Miss Slaone" (2016) and "Mary Queen of Scots" (2019) are cool.<br>If you need some peaceful music for meditation or good sleep, listen to his work.
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Hans ZimmerNick Glennie-SmithHarry Gregson-WilliamsDon Harper
ComposerComposerCo-ComposerAdditional Music
The Rock (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 107'32
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  1. Opening (3:54)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  2. Naval Weapons Depot (4:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  3. Baby Gas (2:26)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  4. Romance #1 (0:19)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  5. Tour's Over, Bob (3:29)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper, Steven Stern
  6. Hummel Speech - Alcatraz Reopened (2:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  7. Hummel's Demands To Pentagon (1:21)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  8. Romance #2 (0:46)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  9. Mason Montage (1:24)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Steven Stern
  10. San Francisco Montage (1:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Russ Landau
  11. Interrogation (1:02)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Steven Stern
  12. The Quarter (0:41)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Steven Stern
  13. Window Crash - Fairmont (2:07)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Steven Stern
  14. Haircut - Escape: The Chase!! (8:22)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Don Harper
  15. Goodspeed Tracks Jade (0:49)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  16. Jade (1:59)
    Nick Glennie-Smith
  17. Blueprints (1:06)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  18. Hummel - SEALs (7:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  19. Mason Into Furnace - SEALs Tunnel (1:14)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper
  20. In The Tunnels (3:32)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Don Harper, Steven Stern
  21. SEAL Attack (4:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Steven Stern
  22. Aftermath (0:49)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  23. Bombs (3:43)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  24. Hammer Head (1:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  25. The Morgue (2:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  26. Indiana Jones - Fight With Marines (4:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  27. Hostage - Goodspeed Captured (5:35)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  28. Plasma Bomb Is Ready (0:51)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  29. Mason's Walk (4:10)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  30. First Launch (1:54)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  31. President's Lament (1:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  32. Mission's Over (5:28)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  33. Final Attack (3:07)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  34. The Last Chip (2:26)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  35. Finale (Part 1) (2:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  36. Finale (Part 2) (3:24)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  37. Fort Walton, Kansas (1:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  38. Hummel - SEALs (Alternate) (1:56)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  39. In The Tunnels (Alternate 1) (1:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper
  40. In The Tunnels (Alternate 2) (1:31)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper
  41. Fort Walton, Kansas (Alternate) (1:40)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
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Maps reply Replies: 0 || 2007-09-19 00:00:00
I created an own bootleg with all the music released fort his film with this track listing:

01 Opening titles (3:51)
02 Hummel gets the rockets (4:12)
03 Defusing the bomb (2:24)
04 Marriage (00:16)
05 Tours over (3:26)
06 Hummel’s speech (2:35)
07 Marriage II (00:42)
08 Mason breaks the glass (2:15)
09 The chase (8:33)
10 Jade (1:59)
11 The mission (7:21)
12 The mission (alternate) (1:53)
13 Father–daughter-chat (1:46)
14 Welcome to the rock (4:16)
15 Welcome to the rock (alternate) (1:34)
16 The shower room massacre (4:37)
17 Bombs away (4:37)
18 The morgue I (1:44)
19 The morgue II (2:10)
20 Tunnel shootout (4:10)
21 Mason’s walk (5:32)
22 The final hour (4:09)
23 Rocket away (1:51)
24 The air force approved (1:56)
25 Mutiny (5:25)
26 The last rocket (3:06)
27 Frye and Goodspeed fight (2:24)
28 Green smoke (2:36)
29 Saving Goodspeed (3:23)
30 Fort Walton – Kansas (alternate) (2:51)
31 Fort Walton – Kansas (1:29)
32 End Credit suite (5:14)
33 The Rock (ideas)

Total running time: 1:42:18

NO SFX!

mark reply Replies: 0 || 2007-08-28 00:00:00
on the rock cover is are names of nick glennie-smith,hans zimmer,harry gregson-williams,but i dont know who did witch theme,who did all score and who just was helping in work.anybady know who did what in this score???

Manuel reply Replies: 0 || 2007-08-27 00:00:00
Well this is a version without sfx. But is not the complete score, The movie runs over 2 hrs and 15 minutes, and many music from the film is not included in this version. Also, we can find this parts of the music in others version but conatins a little sfx. Also, There changes between some tracks from the other versions and this. Please, team of remote control productions, lauch the complete score with all the music and the alternate tracks.

Thanks.

Aggelos reply Replies: 0 || 2007-08-20 00:00:00
I also have the version that ok mentioned about. It's very nice! Hail to complete score with no SFX!!!

Aggelos reply Replies: 0 || 2007-08-20 00:00:00
Most of the bootleg covers are fan made

The Colonel reply Replies: 0 || 2007-08-17 00:00:00
The cover's most likely fan-made by some goon who doesn't know better; just knows that Zimmer worked on it and as he's the biggest name assumed that he contributed the most.
Poor Nick has never gotten the true recognition deserved to him for this, his fantastic score. A pity.
Anyway this "reordered" track version thankfully seems more "available" than the disordered original tracklist. I'm very happy with it.

ok reply Replies: 0 || 2007-08-17 00:00:00
i just saw the cover and its strange that only zimmers name is present when the music is mostly nick glennie smith and then a parts by hans zimmer and least bu harry gregson williams.

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2007-08-17 00:00:00
ok :

This one you mention, is just the same as the one listed on this page, only the cues are rearranged in the correct order they appear in the film, and named a bit differently...that's all !

...actually not difficult to figure out this just by comparing the two tracklists.... ;)

Antas, Webmaster reply Replies: 0 || 2007-08-16 00:00:00
@ok : could you contact me privately ?

ok reply Replies: 0 || 2007-08-16 00:00:00
hey antas/hybrid i found this version,
CD 1
01- A Grave Injustice
02- Hummel Gets The Rockets
03- Defusing The Bomb
04- Tour's Over
05- Hummel's Speech
06- Mason Breaks The Glass
07- The Chase
08- Jade
09- The Mission
10- The Mission (Alternate)
11- Welcome To The Rock
12- Welcome To The Rock (Short Alternate)
13- Shower Room Massacer
14- Bomb's Away
15- The Morgue Part I
16- The Morgue Part II
CD 2
01- Tunnel Shootout
02- Mason's Walk
03- The Final Hour
04- Rocket Away
05- Airstrike Approved
06- Mutiny
07- Frye and Goodspeed Fight
07- The Last Rocket
09- Green Smoke
10- Saving Goodspeed
11- Fort Walton, Kansas
what do u think, its without sfx and has great quality, seems like a complete.

MexX reply Replies: 0 || 2007-07-10 00:00:00
Oke!, i accept that i cant buying this beautiful musik of once of the best composers (hans zimmer, nick glennie-smith, harry gregson-williams and much more) but i want to know, why we cant get this album or anything albums with "[Bootleg Release]", why musst they save that and why dont want to get much money with that musik??? My englisch are so bad because iam from germany^^, i a little composer, i have any good programms and synthesizer with midi funktion and make a little musik for a german movie too. Iam playing pionao for 8 years and since 5 years, iam a BIG hans zimmer fan (composer of RCP too). I have bougth so many albums from hans zimmer (and other) but the best musik are saved!!! and my question ist: WHY, why cant they make
officially this good musik???

Marie reply Replies: 0 || 2007-02-23 00:00:00
just one word: Amazing!

xeriouxi reply Replies: 0 || 2007-02-18 00:00:00
I find it's a shame too that they aren't released to the public. I really love this release since I got it a few years ago and it's a shame that it wasn't a 2-disc release to begin with. =(

Roy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-27 00:00:00
I understand.. only its sad.. they let us hear a little part of this beautiful cd, and we cant buy it any were :(

fatih reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-25 00:00:00
tnk

Parvus reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-24 00:00:00
OK, I understand. I'm sorry, I do not want any problems. :)

Antas, Webmaster reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-23 00:00:00
You know, HZ staff (and other composers as well) read regularly the site -- so you can easily understand why it's better to not tell where to find such releases...
We don't want any problem with owners' copyrights

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-23 00:00:00
Screw all the "don't tell people where to get bootlegs" thing. I respect the rules here, but it's not like the H-Z.com guys didn't have to ask around to get them is it. :)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-23 00:00:00
LOL why not (I don't know why, I already feel the webmasters' Red Alert) ? But come to the forum to find me...

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-22 00:00:00
timo I really understand what you mean...

This bootleg world is "selfish", isn't it ?

We can talk about bootlegs, give opinion about bootlegs, tell they exist... But we can't tell where to find these bootlegs !

It's a great paradox...

If I tell you where to begin your research, this message will be deleted... ;-(

timo reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-22 00:00:00
@webmaster all those guys talk about it and listen it,...how did they get them?
thanks

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-22 00:00:00
Yes Antas !

A 33 tracks... I don't know how is it (quality ?, SFX ?)... I'll have it soon if you know what I mean... ;-]

Antas, Webmaster reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-22 00:00:00
@Hybrid

I didn't manage to find any promo or boot with Hans or Mark music for Sniper. Did you ?

Parvus reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-22 00:00:00
PLEASE HELP How can I get this album?

timo reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-21 00:00:00
Hybrid Soldier, are you sure is it not possible to get them anyhow?thanks for answering

Antas, Webmaster reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-21 00:00:00
@timo

bootlegs are not official CD -- so you can't buy them.

D Wade reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-21 00:00:00
Thanks for all the explanations as to who did what on the score. This might be a little off the Rock subject, but can anyone tell me which pieces of the score to Sniper were written by Hans?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-21 00:00:00
LOL D Wade !

That's a really good question... You certainly talk about the Sniper bootleg available with as only information "Gary Chang - Hans Zimmer - Mark Mancina" as composers...

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-17 00:00:00
Mr Tweedy, the interview i talked about (this: http://www.cinemusic.net/spotlight/1999/hz-spotlight.html), isn't the same one where he (Zimmer) explains why he was 'called'...
I can't remember seeing this interview, maybe I've seen it, but I can't seem to find it again, do you (or anyone else) know if this interview is still online on some site ? (or does anyone have a copy of the interview).
Just would be fun/interesting to see the whole interview (again (?)), but any help will be appreciated, thanks :)

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