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I'm highly disappointed by the score... Lorne went the very easy way and recycled the MW2 score as well as the Mancina theme in almost every track. Like seriously... the only thing u here is MW2, Main Theme and lot of rustle-synth score. 1/10! No effort went in this score and I dont say that often.As for Ad Astra, unfortunately i can't hear anything from Ad Astra aswell :/ It's just MW2 mixed with Mancinas themes for me. And the cues from MW2, they aren't just drums, all the guitars, melodies, vibes, even the choir or the voices are included. The above mentioned cues from MW2 are not complete, there are plenty of them, but these will give you the idea of what we've mentioned. Again, i'm not mad, i'm happy that a wider audience can hear these cues, but then again, on MW2 they sounded better and fresher than on the BB3 score (i mean the quality of the recordings - you can hear the cues and instruments more directly. On the BB3 score it sounds like being in a bathroom hearing to the MW2 score). And as i said earlier, i would like to understand or know what Lorne thought about using all these cues. Time pressure? Unused opportunity for a wider audience? And then again that synth-sound even using a real orchestra :/@ Mr Tweedy:<br><br>MW2 has hundred of cues, which has all the special atmosphere and sound-effects, but try listen to these cues to understand what i and others mean:<br><br>- Guerilla Tactics <br>- Guerilla<br>- Contingency<br>- Breach<br>- Retreat and Reveille<br><br>Funny thing, play the cue "Guerilla Tactics" from MW2 and let Shazam try to find out what track that is. It shows me as "Lorne Balfe - We're Dangerous People" from BB3 :DI really like this score!<br>Sure he used Mancina's Theme, that's allright cool, I don't hear anything similar to Ad Astra....don't know why somebody compare this score with Ad Astra....<br>That MW2 sounds are very great, he don't copy himself, he just used the Drums, what's definitely be OK!!<br><br>I don't know why people always want to compare scores....Everybody use his own Temp Music sometimes, that's normal!Please could you give me the exact name of the track from MW2 that is used in BB3? I’d like to compare both!
I love Lorne´s music and all, but I am genuinely wondering, why they decided to re-use MW2 so much in the scoreas for the drums, yes, i would understand. but the orchestra? you're recording the strings from a real orchestra, so why the downgrade in sound-quality?Because that parts are sampled drums and there are no real?i don't know what to think about the use of mw2. i mean, i love his work for mw2, it's TOO good to be just a score for a game, a wider audience should hear this, so i'm kind of happy to hear some parts of it here. BUT somehow, it's kind of a lazy move just to copy that 1:1. some cues are untouched and some cues are layered with some themes of mancina. i would be interested to know what was he thinking while doing this? <br><br>i followed his video uploads on his social media channels, where he showed some snippets of the orchestra and i truly loved that. but while hearing at the score, i'm dissappointed to hear the quality as it sounds like synth. i mean that typically Balfe synth sound quality. if he uses truly orchestra, than it's a shame and pitty that it sounds like synths in the end. he needs a better recording or mixing or whatever to get rid of that synth-quality-design and having the true-orchestra feelingMancina's theme + Ad Astra + MW:2= Bad boys for Life.
Please enlighten me on how Bad Boys 3 sounds the same as Lego Batman or Genius: Picassowhy his music always sound the same...if he doesn't have time why he keep scoring more and more films per year? is it all about money?Modern Warfare 2 is a lot in the album!<br><br>- It's Good Shit Lieatenant<br>- We're Dangerous People<br>- What Else You Got (Bad Boys Remix)<br>- God's Gun (Bad Boys Remix)<br>- We Ride Together, We Die Together (Bad Boys Remix)We're Dangerous PeopleCall of the Wild coming by Hollywood Records, that means, digital.
Bloodshoot coming from Sony ClassicalCan confirm is in the albumavailable in nz itunes store. on the cover its correct now....motion picture score.What was Hans’ role in the treatment of Mantovani’s “Charmaine”. It sounds like the original, but cleaner, clearer, & without the limitations of 50/60’s recording technology. I’ve been fascinated by this piece for 25+ years, as it seems almost a precursor to Jarre & even Zimmer’s electronic music, while being entirely orchestral. Links to info appreciated.@Scorefan: You know what "Motion" means right? Motion picture = moving picture = movie. U either call it "Original Movie Score" or "Original Score from the Movie" or u call it "Original Motion Picture Score". But u can't say "Movie Picture" lol. Its just wrong or like Macejko said.. "a retarded mistake" ;-)
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Additional Music - Conductor
Hans ZimmerNick Glennie-SmithHarry Gregson-WilliamsDon Harper
ComposerComposerCo-ComposerAdditional Music
The Rock (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 107'32
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  1. Opening (3:54)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  2. Naval Weapons Depot (4:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  3. Baby Gas (2:26)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  4. Romance #1 (0:19)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  5. Tour's Over, Bob (3:29)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper, Steven Stern
  6. Hummel Speech - Alcatraz Reopened (2:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  7. Hummel's Demands To Pentagon (1:21)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  8. Romance #2 (0:46)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  9. Mason Montage (1:24)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Steven Stern
  10. San Francisco Montage (1:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Russ Landau
  11. Interrogation (1:02)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Steven Stern
  12. The Quarter (0:41)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Steven Stern
  13. Window Crash - Fairmont (2:07)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Steven Stern
  14. Haircut - Escape: The Chase!! (8:22)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Don Harper
  15. Goodspeed Tracks Jade (0:49)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  16. Jade (1:59)
    Nick Glennie-Smith
  17. Blueprints (1:06)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  18. Hummel - SEALs (7:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  19. Mason Into Furnace - SEALs Tunnel (1:14)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper
  20. In The Tunnels (3:32)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Don Harper, Steven Stern
  21. SEAL Attack (4:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Steven Stern
  22. Aftermath (0:49)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  23. Bombs (3:43)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  24. Hammer Head (1:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  25. The Morgue (2:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  26. Indiana Jones - Fight With Marines (4:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  27. Hostage - Goodspeed Captured (5:35)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  28. Plasma Bomb Is Ready (0:51)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  29. Mason's Walk (4:10)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  30. First Launch (1:54)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  31. President's Lament (1:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  32. Mission's Over (5:28)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  33. Final Attack (3:07)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  34. The Last Chip (2:26)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  35. Finale (Part 1) (2:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  36. Finale (Part 2) (3:24)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  37. Fort Walton, Kansas (1:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  38. Hummel - SEALs (Alternate) (1:56)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  39. In The Tunnels (Alternate 1) (1:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper
  40. In The Tunnels (Alternate 2) (1:31)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper
  41. Fort Walton, Kansas (Alternate) (1:40)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
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timo reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-16 00:00:00
were can i buy these cd's

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-16 00:00:00
timo : unfortunately nowhere...

Mr Tweedy thanks for the explanation !

And you're right, few cues really sound HGW...

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-16 00:00:00
Hi Per,

If you look at the same interview, Zimmer explains why he was called : Michael Bay didn't liked the themes of Nick. He loved the music, but not the themes. Zimmer was called to write new themes in order to replace G-Smith's ones, while keeping the overall NGS style.

I'm maybe wrong, but I ever thought that the new Zimmer themes were replacing those 3 themes of NGS's The Rock ideas.
Zimmer also said something like "I wrote a few material, but since it's used many times in the movie, it sounds like I did a lot of the music, but it's definitely Nick's score". Of course, Zimmer must be talking about the main theme which is used so many times in the score. He wrote the themes, but NGS did the arrangements of it, this is why it sounds NGS... any comment? :P

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-16 00:00:00
Mr Tweedy said:

"Zimmer said he wrote 3 themes to replace NGS's original ones. If it is true, Zimmer replaced the 3 themes from "The Rock Ideas" : -> main theme, mason's theme & the guitar theme (for goodspeed & his girlfriend)...."

Have he said this in a interview ? (if he did, do you remember which one, and if it's still avaible somewhere, do you have a link for it, maybe ?

I've read Zimmer said in interview(s) that "The Rock was really Nick's score, except I wrote a couple of themes on it.", but if that means 2, or 3 themes, and I don't know if the themes he made for it, replaced the 3 'rejected' (?)/demos/ideas themes by NG-S, i don't know.

Personally i always have thought that The Rock is Nick Glennie-Smith's score ('main' composer), regardless of who's written what, and how much... it's not necessarely the one who has composed the main themes that are the main composer, and the same the other way around (in other 'cases')

But it would have been interesting to know exactly who did which themes, cues etc. on it (along with all the other scores too) ;)

per reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-15 00:00:00
Where can you buy* this cd ?

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-15 00:00:00
Harry Gregson-Williams told once he worked on the Chase music, but he's not credited... maybe Harper just did some part of it and not completely.
Zimmer said he wrote 3 themes to replace NGS's original ones. If it is true, Zimmer replaced the 3 themes from "The Rock Ideas" : -> main theme, mason's theme & the guitar theme (for goodspeed & his girlfriend).

Zimmer & NGS worked closely, maybe a great part of the score is from both of them... cannot really tell who did what. HGW's parts are pretty obvious, since he used a lot of the same sound samples in many other movies (Armageddon, Metal Gear Solid, Replacement Killers...), his "sound" is very recognizable. I would say he composed a lot of the fight scenes in the tunnels, the morgue music, and maybe some cues of the last scene (when Goodspeed confronts the last surviving marine).

perr reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-14 00:00:00
Where can you buy* this cd ?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-13 00:00:00
On the other SFX bootlegs (and even if it is low quality ;-)) missing tracks can be found :

- The "Marriage" track (0:50) in a good quality...
- The "This is not training" track (1:02) in a quite bad quality LOL because of SFX...

I don't know if there's other missing track available on these SFX boots... At least it's better than nothing...

Dawn reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-12 00:00:00
Why adding the End Credits ?
It's only a mix of previously hears cues from this expanded CD in a lower audio quality due to DVD compression...

Unknown reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-12 00:00:00
@D Wade:

This is what i know (not 100% sure):

The Chase - Don Harper
Opening Title - Hans Zimmer
Mine Music - Harry Gregson Williams
Jade Music, Lift Off, and more - Nick Glennie Smith

There also some rumors that James Newton Howard has written some parts :)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-12 00:00:00
We can also add to this expanded the End Credits track from the 24 tracks SFX expanded (5:33) !

;-)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Mr Tweedy, you said :

"The scene when mason goes through the flames to open the door is also missing, but fortunately, that cue is on the official release."

I really want to know which part of which track of the Official release it is ! ;-)

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Hybrid Soldier said:

"Mr Tweedy, you said :

"The scene when mason goes through the flames to open the door is also missing, but fortunately, that cue is on the official release."

I really want to know which part of which track of the Official release it is ! ;-) "

It's on track 4 - In The tunnels, the first 48 seconds! (the last few seconds are mixed together with the next cue (Welcome To The Rock)
...Like it is usually done on most of the CD soundtracks by Zimmer etc.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Thank you Per...

Do you know where to put this little important cue in the chronological order given by Dawn before ?

;-)

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
"Do you know where to put this little important cue in the chronological order given by Dawn before ? "

->
Right before the 'Welcome To The Rock'
(these two cues are actually in the correct chronological order on the CD (although they overlap by a few seconds on the CD)
So because of that, I guess it won't be that easy to extract this short piece from the CD (perfectly), without including the beginning of the 'Welcome To The Rock' - cue.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Yes indeed you're right Per, it's quite difficult ! ^^

I've done what I could...


Anyway it's better than nothing ! :-)

Thank you again !

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
I did the mix myself of the beginning of "welcome to the rock" and is pretty well made...
but huuuum... I think I'm better not to give my e-mail, right, or I'll have 20.000.000 asks for the complete score !

D Wade reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Anybody know which tracks or themes were written by Hans and which were written by Glennie-Smith? From interviews it seems like even they don't know for sure...

Remco reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-10 00:00:00
Yes can anyone tell us how can get those cd's?

evil one reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-09 00:00:00
it´s not an Hans Zimmer Score, it´s an Nick Glennie Smith score!!!!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-09 00:00:00
I agree evil one... It's sounds NGS for sure...

But this score is great because we have a perfect relation between Zimmer, NGS and HGW music and styles...

Roy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-09 00:00:00
Where can you buy* this cd ?

Dawn reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-07 00:00:00
It was not exactly a new year's present, it became available during last summer. :P

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-06 00:00:00
You better hold that Mr Tweedy! We may never know, Hans may come up with something much better than what he's already offered us. Then you'll have to come back to this business again and... well... We don't want to lose our reputation for being the man of our words then, do we? LOL

Compatto, you gotta point there bud but take it easy. Only hardcore fans go after and find these releases and I can assure you that these people know who was in charge! ;-)

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-06 00:00:00
Halelujah baby.

Now this is what I call a new year's start.

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-06 00:00:00
Hey Hybrid Soldier,
Well, as I'm a fanatic of Black Hawk Down, the "patchwork" of both official CD, DVD music, and promo releases doesn't really suits me.
I'd like to hear the music as it used in the movie, and not the collage some guy has made on his computer. lol

Of course Sylvos, if Zimmer (or Gregson-Williams, Powell etc...) does something incredible not released, I'd have to come back (sounds really dramatic !).
But my want list was : Face/Off, The Rock, BHD, Thin Red Line, Armageddon and Bad Boys. I've most of those now... can't wait for the few missing ones !
The only missing cue I've found from The Thin Red Line is an instrumental reprise of one of the melanesian songs, on a Badelt promo, unfortunately the only one :'(

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-06 00:00:00
Hey Mr Tweedy, the 3 CD Black Hawk Down isn't bad... ;-)

But you're right, I can't wait for a Thin Red Line Complete... ^^

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-05 00:00:00
Yeah, I hope the treasure chest will open again soon.
Can't wait for expanded versions of the two score I love so much : The Thin Red Line and Black Hawk Down.
After those ones, I'll disappear from the complete score trading universe... coz my mission will be accomplished ! :P

Compatto reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-05 00:00:00
Why is write Hans Zimmer in the cover?
The lead composer of the score is Nick Glennie-Smith

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