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If Steffen & Max did anything, it's arrange Lorne's cues...Personally, I donīt think that Aruj and Thum got a chance (or time) to write anything for this film, but I may be wrong... who knowsIn which tracks does William's sad theme appear?Alright, these are my speculations on the credits for this version, mixed with what we already know about it from Soundclouds/websites/etc.<br><br>What we know:<br>Luke Richards - Today We Hunt, Running Out Of Tomorrows, Ospreys<br>Lorne Balfe - Battlefield<br><br>Gary Dworetsky - Final 50 seconds of Calling All Autobots<br><br>My personal speculation:<br>David Fleming - Drone Chase, Dive<br><br>Gary Dworetsky - History of Transformers<br><br>Max Aruj & Steffen Thum - Vivian Follows Merlin, Claim The Staff<br><br>I have no sources to back this up, these are just my guesses based on what I feel these composers' styles are.I watched the movie yesterday. Unfortunately,the songs are in Portuguese here, in Brazil (even "Spirit"! ). But Hans' work is still amazing, intense, he's stolen the show again!
Saw the movie but never listened to the score, is it worth listening to?This complete album sound like Lit!! I like to hear about this album in one day soon.I just hope they bring back William's sad theme and other variations of Dolores's theme which were unreleased in season 2It is, actually, completely in correct order. There's just 5 theme suites  here & there.Okay, I want this. Where, how much? lol<br><br>And I'm willing to bet that even those Jablonsky fans who didn't like the score wanna hear the complete album.
@Ahmad i think end credits :PDo you know the chronological order for this one Hybrid? I had quick glance at the complete here and the OST album seems massively out of order16 hours of music?<br>Can we hear those 16 hours of music one day?I saw the film today. It's amazing and wonderful. The feeling and emotions of the 1994 film keep untouchables. The score is simply breathtaking. The songs are incredible. The stampede scene is so intense just like the 1994. Hans has made an intense, epic and beautiful score.Additional arrangements instead of additional music? Even part of the score not on album?
Because if the film is an american production, it has no choice but be recorded in the US... That's the rule...<br><br>When the film is a UK co-production, and/or partly shot in the UK etc... (like, for instance, every Nolan film, or King Arthur), it can be recorded in the UK... That's why it's way easier to get an expanded set of The Dark Knight or Interstellar than... the POTC saga...<br><br>I remember the AFM (American Federation of Musicians) wasn't pleased when Interstellar got recorded at Air Studios in London, claiming it had to be US Recorded... But Nolan's a brit, Syncopy is a British operation based in London...> You gotta realize one thing, this score is US recorded so every new 15 min of score you release, you gotta pay back reuse fees. So it's very complicated & costy and that's why they released "only" 15 min of extra score.<br><br>> If it was recorded in the UK, they could have released 2 hours of bonus tracks it wouldn't have cost anything more... :)<br><br>Wow, I didn't know that. So, why not record every movie in the UK/Europe then? Not sure how long it will take but I think this re-use fee will drop once they record every score outside the US.<br>However, how much money did the movie make in the Boxoffice and Home Entertainment? I'm sure that money can't be an issue here.<br><br>How cool would it be to officially buy the sessions in a collectors box (in general for all movies), signed by the composer and director and maybe cast members... I'm sure that could be sold for $200+. The studios are wasting an opportunity here... Sure, you can copy music but you can't copy the signatures.That's exactley what I thought.<br><br>There was one other thing I thought was great.<br><br>I went with my parents, who have heard Zimmer's music, from when I'm listening to it, but they said to me that you can hear, that it's him, without even knowing all of his music.<br>They said, the thematic content, the bombast of it, it is just pure Zimmer.<br><br>Hope Spongebob & Wonder Woman 1984 are with a large orchestral/choir ensemble, and with WW1984 some 80's synths!!Having seen it, the biggest thing I realized was that I missed this kind of scoring in movies. When the HZ of the 90s-2000s left in favor of experiments, it seems no one replaced him, so this area of "big sounding scores with instantly memorable and beautiful themes" has just been abandoned. Hopefully seeing/hearing this version of The Lion King now will give some ideas to executives/directors regarding musical choices!No GITS cannot be released, it's technically not possible... That's why Lorne leaked his part of the score himself...
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Additional Music - Conductor
Hans ZimmerNick Glennie-SmithHarry Gregson-WilliamsDon Harper
ComposerComposerCo-ComposerAdditional Music
The Rock (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 107'32
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  1. Opening (3:54)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  2. Naval Weapons Depot (4:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  3. Baby Gas (2:26)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  4. Romance #1 (0:19)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  5. Tour's Over, Bob (3:29)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper, Steven Stern
  6. Hummel Speech - Alcatraz Reopened (2:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  7. Hummel's Demands To Pentagon (1:21)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  8. Romance #2 (0:46)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  9. Mason Montage (1:24)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Steven Stern
  10. San Francisco Montage (1:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Russ Landau
  11. Interrogation (1:02)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Steven Stern
  12. The Quarter (0:41)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Steven Stern
  13. Window Crash - Fairmont (2:07)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Steven Stern
  14. Haircut - Escape: The Chase!! (8:22)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Don Harper
  15. Goodspeed Tracks Jade (0:49)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  16. Jade (1:59)
    Nick Glennie-Smith
  17. Blueprints (1:06)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  18. Hummel - SEALs (7:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  19. Mason Into Furnace - SEALs Tunnel (1:14)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper
  20. In The Tunnels (3:32)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Don Harper, Steven Stern
  21. SEAL Attack (4:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Steven Stern
  22. Aftermath (0:49)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  23. Bombs (3:43)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  24. Hammer Head (1:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  25. The Morgue (2:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  26. Indiana Jones - Fight With Marines (4:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  27. Hostage - Goodspeed Captured (5:35)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  28. Plasma Bomb Is Ready (0:51)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  29. Mason's Walk (4:10)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  30. First Launch (1:54)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  31. President's Lament (1:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  32. Mission's Over (5:28)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  33. Final Attack (3:07)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  34. The Last Chip (2:26)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  35. Finale (Part 1) (2:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  36. Finale (Part 2) (3:24)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  37. Fort Walton, Kansas (1:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  38. Hummel - SEALs (Alternate) (1:56)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  39. In The Tunnels (Alternate 1) (1:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper
  40. In The Tunnels (Alternate 2) (1:31)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper
  41. Fort Walton, Kansas (Alternate) (1:40)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
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Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-16 00:00:00
Hi Per,

If you look at the same interview, Zimmer explains why he was called : Michael Bay didn't liked the themes of Nick. He loved the music, but not the themes. Zimmer was called to write new themes in order to replace G-Smith's ones, while keeping the overall NGS style.

I'm maybe wrong, but I ever thought that the new Zimmer themes were replacing those 3 themes of NGS's The Rock ideas.
Zimmer also said something like "I wrote a few material, but since it's used many times in the movie, it sounds like I did a lot of the music, but it's definitely Nick's score". Of course, Zimmer must be talking about the main theme which is used so many times in the score. He wrote the themes, but NGS did the arrangements of it, this is why it sounds NGS... any comment? :P

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-16 00:00:00
timo : unfortunately nowhere...

Mr Tweedy thanks for the explanation !

And you're right, few cues really sound HGW...

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-15 00:00:00
Harry Gregson-Williams told once he worked on the Chase music, but he's not credited... maybe Harper just did some part of it and not completely.
Zimmer said he wrote 3 themes to replace NGS's original ones. If it is true, Zimmer replaced the 3 themes from "The Rock Ideas" : -> main theme, mason's theme & the guitar theme (for goodspeed & his girlfriend).

Zimmer & NGS worked closely, maybe a great part of the score is from both of them... cannot really tell who did what. HGW's parts are pretty obvious, since he used a lot of the same sound samples in many other movies (Armageddon, Metal Gear Solid, Replacement Killers...), his "sound" is very recognizable. I would say he composed a lot of the fight scenes in the tunnels, the morgue music, and maybe some cues of the last scene (when Goodspeed confronts the last surviving marine).

per reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-15 00:00:00
Where can you buy* this cd ?

perr reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-14 00:00:00
Where can you buy* this cd ?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-13 00:00:00
On the other SFX bootlegs (and even if it is low quality ;-)) missing tracks can be found :

- The "Marriage" track (0:50) in a good quality...
- The "This is not training" track (1:02) in a quite bad quality LOL because of SFX...

I don't know if there's other missing track available on these SFX boots... At least it's better than nothing...

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-12 00:00:00
We can also add to this expanded the End Credits track from the 24 tracks SFX expanded (5:33) !

;-)

Unknown reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-12 00:00:00
@D Wade:

This is what i know (not 100% sure):

The Chase - Don Harper
Opening Title - Hans Zimmer
Mine Music - Harry Gregson Williams
Jade Music, Lift Off, and more - Nick Glennie Smith

There also some rumors that James Newton Howard has written some parts :)

Dawn reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-12 00:00:00
Why adding the End Credits ?
It's only a mix of previously hears cues from this expanded CD in a lower audio quality due to DVD compression...

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Yes indeed you're right Per, it's quite difficult ! ^^

I've done what I could...


Anyway it's better than nothing ! :-)

Thank you again !

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Mr Tweedy, you said :

"The scene when mason goes through the flames to open the door is also missing, but fortunately, that cue is on the official release."

I really want to know which part of which track of the Official release it is ! ;-)

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Hybrid Soldier said:

"Mr Tweedy, you said :

"The scene when mason goes through the flames to open the door is also missing, but fortunately, that cue is on the official release."

I really want to know which part of which track of the Official release it is ! ;-) "

It's on track 4 - In The tunnels, the first 48 seconds! (the last few seconds are mixed together with the next cue (Welcome To The Rock)
...Like it is usually done on most of the CD soundtracks by Zimmer etc.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Thank you Per...

Do you know where to put this little important cue in the chronological order given by Dawn before ?

;-)

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
"Do you know where to put this little important cue in the chronological order given by Dawn before ? "

->
Right before the 'Welcome To The Rock'
(these two cues are actually in the correct chronological order on the CD (although they overlap by a few seconds on the CD)
So because of that, I guess it won't be that easy to extract this short piece from the CD (perfectly), without including the beginning of the 'Welcome To The Rock' - cue.

D Wade reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Anybody know which tracks or themes were written by Hans and which were written by Glennie-Smith? From interviews it seems like even they don't know for sure...

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
I did the mix myself of the beginning of "welcome to the rock" and is pretty well made...
but huuuum... I think I'm better not to give my e-mail, right, or I'll have 20.000.000 asks for the complete score !

Remco reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-10 00:00:00
Yes can anyone tell us how can get those cd's?

Roy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-09 00:00:00
Where can you buy* this cd ?

evil one reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-09 00:00:00
itīs not an Hans Zimmer Score, itīs an Nick Glennie Smith score!!!!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-09 00:00:00
I agree evil one... It's sounds NGS for sure...

But this score is great because we have a perfect relation between Zimmer, NGS and HGW music and styles...

Dawn reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-07 00:00:00
It was not exactly a new year's present, it became available during last summer. :P

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-06 00:00:00
Hey Mr Tweedy, the 3 CD Black Hawk Down isn't bad... ;-)

But you're right, I can't wait for a Thin Red Line Complete... ^^

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-06 00:00:00
You better hold that Mr Tweedy! We may never know, Hans may come up with something much better than what he's already offered us. Then you'll have to come back to this business again and... well... We don't want to lose our reputation for being the man of our words then, do we? LOL

Compatto, you gotta point there bud but take it easy. Only hardcore fans go after and find these releases and I can assure you that these people know who was in charge! ;-)

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-06 00:00:00
Hey Hybrid Soldier,
Well, as I'm a fanatic of Black Hawk Down, the "patchwork" of both official CD, DVD music, and promo releases doesn't really suits me.
I'd like to hear the music as it used in the movie, and not the collage some guy has made on his computer. lol

Of course Sylvos, if Zimmer (or Gregson-Williams, Powell etc...) does something incredible not released, I'd have to come back (sounds really dramatic !).
But my want list was : Face/Off, The Rock, BHD, Thin Red Line, Armageddon and Bad Boys. I've most of those now... can't wait for the few missing ones !
The only missing cue I've found from The Thin Red Line is an instrumental reprise of one of the melanesian songs, on a Badelt promo, unfortunately the only one :'(

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-06 00:00:00
Halelujah baby.

Now this is what I call a new year's start.

Compatto reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-05 00:00:00
Why is write Hans Zimmer in the cover?
The lead composer of the score is Nick Glennie-Smith

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-05 00:00:00
Yeah, I hope the treasure chest will open again soon.
Can't wait for expanded versions of the two score I love so much : The Thin Red Line and Black Hawk Down.
After those ones, I'll disappear from the complete score trading universe... coz my mission will be accomplished ! :P

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-05 00:00:00
Ah... This one's received the NO-SFX treat at last. Guess Maestro Zimmer has finally started to open his chest and share with us some of his precious gems. A League Of Their Own, Cool Runnings and now this... Splendid! Hope he does the same for the rest of his treasures as well. I can't wait until the same thing for say, Backdraft, Gladiator, Road To El Dorado, PotC: Dead Man's Chest and etc come around! :-)

Oh and by the way. This is a "No SFX" score children, not "No SXF"... LOL ;-)

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-05 00:00:00
I remember that the variations on the "fort walton - kansas" theme are not on this version (when Goodspeed is with his girlffriend).
They removed the great theme reprise when the FBI sets in hangars near Alcatraz.
Another missing cue is when a soldier is found about to die by Hummel after the shower massacre.
The scene when mason goes through the flames to open the door is also missing, but fortunately, that cue is on the official release.

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