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New YouTube playlist: <br>Hans Zimmer - Film Scores. <br>youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nVB9Q77N9h-iKbNe7ZWrQHjiy_ vla_glc<br><br>I don't understand how they chose that cover:<br>Time (arr. guitar) [Music Lab Collective]<br>youtube.com/watch?v=YGCFdR--u5M<br><br>Strength and honor!<br><br>One of this score's best and most underrated moments, especially in the context of the film, is the introduction of the Kraken's theme in "Row to Tia Dalma". The tense buildup while Gibbs describes the creature's horrors, then the brief pause as he names it, followed by the theme in the absolute lowest registers of the orchestra, quiet, but so so so menacing and also just SUPER FUCKING COOL.<br><br>It gives me goosebumps every time, in a *dialogue scene*. That is incredibly good musical storytelling.Edmund: And posted their one-sentence review of it on the Hans Zimmer fan site.Anything missed from the official release?oh damn really? huh that would be cool. even with the ultimate edition there’s still deleted scenes and I wish they were put on the Blu ray.<br><br>it plays during the scene after the knightmare when Clark is looking through the polaroids that say judge jury executioner on them. i don’t remember if that’s an extended scene or not as I’ve only seen the theatrical cut once in theaters. one and done lol
"Chicken Run really makes you FEEL like you're in a concentration camp." - IGNI guess it comes from a deleted scene where Jesse Eisenberg gets playful with his dinner. Rumor has it it's gonna be included in the Snyder Cut.I love the notion of Barack Obama and IGN teaming up to review 20 year old film scores.Smoothly done soundtrack. IGN - 10/10what the hell is Quaker steak and lube????
I disagree on Catwoman. I love Zimmer's theme and I thought it is one of his most underrated themes.Loved the new tracks!<br><br>Hans & Chris really did something special.<br><br>I enjoyed the Tenet score, but honestly Ludwig's work doesn't compare to Zimmer's. I just hope they work together again instead of Chris choosing Ludwig as his main collaborator from now on.Agreed.<br><br>I don’t know, TDKR feels a little oppressive to me in comparison with BB and TDK , probably as a result of Nolan’s musical tastes veering away from symphonic to more abstract. Reading the new book on Nolan gives me the impression that he has a very similar approach to his music as he does his filmmaking. With that said though, TDKR is still a solid conclusion to the franchise. Bane’s theme is excellent and the culmination of the various “Bat-Themes” do feel well earned. Catwoman’s theme is solid, but for some reason is dropped from most of the movie in favor of the repeating two-note phrase.<br><br>@Moggyman<br>Honestly I feel as if JNH’s work on the first two Hunger Games sequels showed a strong improvement in writing and theme building. The last score was a bit too much of a pastiche, but orchestrally a stronger fit than the first one. And “Crimes of Grindelwald” is easily one of the best sequel scores in the past few years (alongside Star Wars and HTTYD). Unfortunately we still don’t have a good album situation for that though. -_-Counterpoint: I liked Crimes of Grindelwald more than the first Fantastic Beasts. And forget Hanging Tree - "Air Raid Drill" from the first and "Sewer Attack" from the second Mockingjay are the best cues from that series. Plus, JNH honestly hasn't worked on that many sequels so we don't really have enough to go on here. <br><br>I think having JNH on board for Catwoman would have done wonders for this score. Hans' theme is okay, but feels like a bit of an afterthought compared to Bane.TDK & TDKR have amazing theme suites.<br><br>But as for the scores in film, they don't even get close to Batman Begins !
I like Tom but idk he's gone downhill in my book. Alita was boring, i was over the moon excited for Terminator cause that was a perfect mix and it was disappointed big time. I'd love to hear Steve Jablonsky tackle that and get back to being as great as he used to, he has been phoning it in big time latelyOk, before I eat my words, JNH did create the Hanging Tree in Mockingjay p1 which was good, but nothing else other than that in the sequels.For being the so called "weakest", it's very good. And if you think that Bane's theme is repetitive, I would say the same about the Joker's theme in TDK (to me they are both good though). <br><br>Now in all fairness, JNH could have probably added good material to the score since he's a genius, but I personally think he doesn't do well on sequels. Sure, in TDK he gave harvey dent a theme that resonated with his character (but was similar to material already used in BB). Yet, if you look at his work in the hunger games, its seems to me that he couldn't bring something both new and compelling to the sequels as he did in the first movie. I will agree with you that Batman Begins has the best music of the series though.After re-listening to this one, it's clearly the weakest of the trilogy. Of course it's not bad, the new themes are pretty good (though I think Bane's theme is a bit too repetitive and dry at times), there's still emotional moments, but JNH's absence really left a hole in this score.<br><br>I get to an extent that's the point, that all of Bruce's potential for a happy life is gone, but even the emotional tracks to me have nowhere near the emotional resonance that JNH's themes brought to the films. <br><br>"Come With Me" is the best example, where the slow emotional Selina Kyle chords just don't leave much of an impact. Definitely could have used JNH's "Courthouse Pt. 1" or the main theme from "Bruce Left For Dead" to emphasize Bruce's giving up of a quiet life. <br><br>Of course I still appreciate the way the 2 note motif is developed into a theme of its own, as well as the score as a whole, but then you get tracks like "Many Forms of Immortality" which just emphasize how much more effective the thematic work in Batman Begins was.It could also be Tom, who worked on Run All Night, and is already an established DC composer<br>Either way I'll be happy
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Hans ZimmerNick Glennie-SmithHarry Gregson-WilliamsDon Harper
ComposerComposerCo-ComposerAdditional Music
The Rock (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 107'32
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  1. Opening (3:54)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  2. Naval Weapons Depot (4:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  3. Baby Gas (2:26)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  4. Romance #1 (0:19)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  5. Tour's Over, Bob (3:29)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper, Steven Stern
  6. Hummel Speech - Alcatraz Reopened (2:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  7. Hummel's Demands To Pentagon (1:21)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  8. Romance #2 (0:46)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  9. Mason Montage (1:24)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Steven Stern
  10. San Francisco Montage (1:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Russ Landau
  11. Interrogation (1:02)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Steven Stern
  12. The Quarter (0:41)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Steven Stern
  13. Window Crash - Fairmont (2:07)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Steven Stern
  14. Haircut - Escape: The Chase!! (8:22)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Don Harper
  15. Goodspeed Tracks Jade (0:49)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  16. Jade (1:59)
    Nick Glennie-Smith
  17. Blueprints (1:06)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  18. Hummel - SEALs (7:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  19. Mason Into Furnace - SEALs Tunnel (1:14)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper
  20. In The Tunnels (3:32)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Don Harper, Steven Stern
  21. SEAL Attack (4:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Steven Stern
  22. Aftermath (0:49)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  23. Bombs (3:43)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  24. Hammer Head (1:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  25. The Morgue (2:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  26. Indiana Jones - Fight With Marines (4:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  27. Hostage - Goodspeed Captured (5:35)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  28. Plasma Bomb Is Ready (0:51)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  29. Mason's Walk (4:10)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  30. First Launch (1:54)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  31. President's Lament (1:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  32. Mission's Over (5:28)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  33. Final Attack (3:07)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  34. The Last Chip (2:26)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  35. Finale (Part 1) (2:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  36. Finale (Part 2) (3:24)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  37. Fort Walton, Kansas (1:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  38. Hummel - SEALs (Alternate) (1:56)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  39. In The Tunnels (Alternate 1) (1:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper
  40. In The Tunnels (Alternate 2) (1:31)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper
  41. Fort Walton, Kansas (Alternate) (1:40)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
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timo reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-16 00:00:00
were can i buy these cd's

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-16 00:00:00
timo : unfortunately nowhere...

Mr Tweedy thanks for the explanation !

And you're right, few cues really sound HGW...

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-16 00:00:00
Hi Per,

If you look at the same interview, Zimmer explains why he was called : Michael Bay didn't liked the themes of Nick. He loved the music, but not the themes. Zimmer was called to write new themes in order to replace G-Smith's ones, while keeping the overall NGS style.

I'm maybe wrong, but I ever thought that the new Zimmer themes were replacing those 3 themes of NGS's The Rock ideas.
Zimmer also said something like "I wrote a few material, but since it's used many times in the movie, it sounds like I did a lot of the music, but it's definitely Nick's score". Of course, Zimmer must be talking about the main theme which is used so many times in the score. He wrote the themes, but NGS did the arrangements of it, this is why it sounds NGS... any comment? :P

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-16 00:00:00
Mr Tweedy said:

"Zimmer said he wrote 3 themes to replace NGS's original ones. If it is true, Zimmer replaced the 3 themes from "The Rock Ideas" : -> main theme, mason's theme & the guitar theme (for goodspeed & his girlfriend)...."

Have he said this in a interview ? (if he did, do you remember which one, and if it's still avaible somewhere, do you have a link for it, maybe ?

I've read Zimmer said in interview(s) that "The Rock was really Nick's score, except I wrote a couple of themes on it.", but if that means 2, or 3 themes, and I don't know if the themes he made for it, replaced the 3 'rejected' (?)/demos/ideas themes by NG-S, i don't know.

Personally i always have thought that The Rock is Nick Glennie-Smith's score ('main' composer), regardless of who's written what, and how much... it's not necessarely the one who has composed the main themes that are the main composer, and the same the other way around (in other 'cases')

But it would have been interesting to know exactly who did which themes, cues etc. on it (along with all the other scores too) ;)

per reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-15 00:00:00
Where can you buy* this cd ?

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-15 00:00:00
Harry Gregson-Williams told once he worked on the Chase music, but he's not credited... maybe Harper just did some part of it and not completely.
Zimmer said he wrote 3 themes to replace NGS's original ones. If it is true, Zimmer replaced the 3 themes from "The Rock Ideas" : -> main theme, mason's theme & the guitar theme (for goodspeed & his girlfriend).

Zimmer & NGS worked closely, maybe a great part of the score is from both of them... cannot really tell who did what. HGW's parts are pretty obvious, since he used a lot of the same sound samples in many other movies (Armageddon, Metal Gear Solid, Replacement Killers...), his "sound" is very recognizable. I would say he composed a lot of the fight scenes in the tunnels, the morgue music, and maybe some cues of the last scene (when Goodspeed confronts the last surviving marine).

perr reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-14 00:00:00
Where can you buy* this cd ?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-13 00:00:00
On the other SFX bootlegs (and even if it is low quality ;-)) missing tracks can be found :

- The "Marriage" track (0:50) in a good quality...
- The "This is not training" track (1:02) in a quite bad quality LOL because of SFX...

I don't know if there's other missing track available on these SFX boots... At least it's better than nothing...

Dawn reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-12 00:00:00
Why adding the End Credits ?
It's only a mix of previously hears cues from this expanded CD in a lower audio quality due to DVD compression...

Unknown reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-12 00:00:00
@D Wade:

This is what i know (not 100% sure):

The Chase - Don Harper
Opening Title - Hans Zimmer
Mine Music - Harry Gregson Williams
Jade Music, Lift Off, and more - Nick Glennie Smith

There also some rumors that James Newton Howard has written some parts :)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-12 00:00:00
We can also add to this expanded the End Credits track from the 24 tracks SFX expanded (5:33) !

;-)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Mr Tweedy, you said :

"The scene when mason goes through the flames to open the door is also missing, but fortunately, that cue is on the official release."

I really want to know which part of which track of the Official release it is ! ;-)

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Hybrid Soldier said:

"Mr Tweedy, you said :

"The scene when mason goes through the flames to open the door is also missing, but fortunately, that cue is on the official release."

I really want to know which part of which track of the Official release it is ! ;-) "

It's on track 4 - In The tunnels, the first 48 seconds! (the last few seconds are mixed together with the next cue (Welcome To The Rock)
...Like it is usually done on most of the CD soundtracks by Zimmer etc.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Thank you Per...

Do you know where to put this little important cue in the chronological order given by Dawn before ?

;-)

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
"Do you know where to put this little important cue in the chronological order given by Dawn before ? "

->
Right before the 'Welcome To The Rock'
(these two cues are actually in the correct chronological order on the CD (although they overlap by a few seconds on the CD)
So because of that, I guess it won't be that easy to extract this short piece from the CD (perfectly), without including the beginning of the 'Welcome To The Rock' - cue.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Yes indeed you're right Per, it's quite difficult ! ^^

I've done what I could...


Anyway it's better than nothing ! :-)

Thank you again !

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
I did the mix myself of the beginning of "welcome to the rock" and is pretty well made...
but huuuum... I think I'm better not to give my e-mail, right, or I'll have 20.000.000 asks for the complete score !

D Wade reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Anybody know which tracks or themes were written by Hans and which were written by Glennie-Smith? From interviews it seems like even they don't know for sure...

Remco reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-10 00:00:00
Yes can anyone tell us how can get those cd's?

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evil one reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-09 00:00:00
it´s not an Hans Zimmer Score, it´s an Nick Glennie Smith score!!!!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-09 00:00:00
I agree evil one... It's sounds NGS for sure...

But this score is great because we have a perfect relation between Zimmer, NGS and HGW music and styles...

Roy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-09 00:00:00
Where can you buy* this cd ?

Dawn reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-07 00:00:00
It was not exactly a new year's present, it became available during last summer. :P

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-06 00:00:00
You better hold that Mr Tweedy! We may never know, Hans may come up with something much better than what he's already offered us. Then you'll have to come back to this business again and... well... We don't want to lose our reputation for being the man of our words then, do we? LOL

Compatto, you gotta point there bud but take it easy. Only hardcore fans go after and find these releases and I can assure you that these people know who was in charge! ;-)

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-06 00:00:00
Halelujah baby.

Now this is what I call a new year's start.

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-06 00:00:00
Hey Hybrid Soldier,
Well, as I'm a fanatic of Black Hawk Down, the "patchwork" of both official CD, DVD music, and promo releases doesn't really suits me.
I'd like to hear the music as it used in the movie, and not the collage some guy has made on his computer. lol

Of course Sylvos, if Zimmer (or Gregson-Williams, Powell etc...) does something incredible not released, I'd have to come back (sounds really dramatic !).
But my want list was : Face/Off, The Rock, BHD, Thin Red Line, Armageddon and Bad Boys. I've most of those now... can't wait for the few missing ones !
The only missing cue I've found from The Thin Red Line is an instrumental reprise of one of the melanesian songs, on a Badelt promo, unfortunately the only one :'(

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-06 00:00:00
Hey Mr Tweedy, the 3 CD Black Hawk Down isn't bad... ;-)

But you're right, I can't wait for a Thin Red Line Complete... ^^

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-05 00:00:00
Yeah, I hope the treasure chest will open again soon.
Can't wait for expanded versions of the two score I love so much : The Thin Red Line and Black Hawk Down.
After those ones, I'll disappear from the complete score trading universe... coz my mission will be accomplished ! :P

Compatto reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-05 00:00:00
Why is write Hans Zimmer in the cover?
The lead composer of the score is Nick Glennie-Smith

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