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Good question. I honestly get the sense this largely scored to picture, given how varied the cues are, plus the fact Hans did the Day of the Dead and Tuesday cues alone.<br><br>The Batman Suite itself almost sounds like it was done after the score itself was composed, but I could definitely be wrong about that.<br><br>By the way, pretty fucking cool Hans did all (six?) of the themes on this. IMO that goes a long way to show he can still do really solid thematic work when he wants to.So, any confirmation of who actually did what on this score?<br><br>It's one of my favorite RCP-styled scores ever, but I have to admit, it sounds far more Hans & Lorne than Daft Punk. I mean, several of the cues are almost direct copies of Inception cues, albeit more heavily electronic and very differently orchestrated.Shaken.... Not Stirred ;)California here. Will travel to Europe to see you. No need to come to USA. We will come to you. Best regards, GarySingle from Ben's score for The Invisible Man was released and I'm pleasantly surprised by it. https://youtu.be/f-aH9kDKVBY
I’ve been coming back to “But I Will Always Be Faster” and “Sonic The Hedgehog” repeatedly, I’m genuinely impressed by how strong the writing is in both cues. Honestly it doesn’t sound like Holkenborg (mixing aside).Hi there,<br><br>i have seen that the Score (Soundtrack) will be released on 27th of march. But i would like to know somthing maybe any of you knows:<br><br>Will the Song itself be released physical as a Single CD? Or will it be available just for download?<br>Because if there will be no CD, it would be the first James Bond Song which is not released as a Single CD.Rejected scores have gotten official releases before, such as Timeline by Jerry Goldsmith. So even if the Snyder Cut never gets released, I'd hope Junkie could potentially still work out a deal to get his original score out there. Keeping my fingers crossed.No Time to Die coming by Decca 27th March<br><br>https:// www.udiscovermusic.com/news/hans-zimmer-no- time-to-die-soundtrack/?fbclid=IwAR1UtjXatRpCQyXWJ9f7YYfT9Eb k5jy4d7XnlS6XzX4vTiOTxFfvQ0PWgaIIt all depends on whether WB releases the Snyder Cut OR no I don't even want to think about the other case & with the way things are going now it looks like we'll definitely get Zack Snyder's Justice League if not today then tomorrow and only then your question will have any meaning.<br>TL;DR the score will only happen after WB #ReleaseTheSnyderCut
Hybrid, Oscar Senen and Joan Martorell orchestrate the score ?Budapest, please :(Same question here, is concert in Poland even concidered to occur?if the link doesn't work for some reason, the song is called Cliffhanger Sky High on youtubeHi All, sorry it took so long to upload, My friend helped me set up a youtube channel to upload tracks to. I am very inspired by the classic Zimmer Scores of the 90's. I envisioned A climactic rescue aboard A speeding train for this particular cue.<br>https://youtu.be/4WyMIcpqMRk <br>
I avoided bringing up the TF films in this thread until AFTER you dragged them into it.<br>===============<br><br>No one dragged anything. <br><br>I briefly mentioned that franchise, among many other things you conveniently ignored (you do that a lot), to prove a simple point: that a director doesn't get to make 5 movies from the same franchise if people aren't enjoying his work. Simple as that. I never talked about the "quality" of each of those movies. Go see the comment again.<br><br>YOU picked up on this and started talking obsessively about the TF. <br><br><br>==============<br>Going after every person that doesn't like Bay and trying to obsessively "debunk" them is psychotic, yes. <br>==============<br><br>Look at your first comment here, pal. Look at it good! Snarky, dismissive, almost trollish, and with a clear intention to provoke people. Let me quote it: "Another day, another Bay film that doesn't know what fun is." <br><br>I only "go after" people who can't share their opinions in a respectful, mature way. There are a lot of comments here I disagreed with. But I never confronted those people. Why? Because they know how to properly share an opinion. <br><br>I only go after people who provoke, make fun of someone/something and troll. I've never "attacked" a person who didn't deserve that kind of response. My post history here speaks for itself. <br><br><br>===================<br>And constantly referring to other people's opinions and whinging about the box office doesn't make you objective, especially with how self-contradictory the latter has been.<br>===================<br><br>Nope. Not even close. <br><br>You're just bitter that I'm using quotes from proven, talented people like Spielberg who support Bay. What quotes can your side use? Just quotes from knucklehead film bloggers and critics who hate half of what Hollywood makes. <br><br>No one with an actual integrity and knowledge of the film business can dismiss what Bay has accomplished. You may not like his stuff, but to completely dismiss him as a filmmaker is.......moronic. Truth is, it's only small fries on the internet who are angry that their favorite mid-level directors aren't as big and successful as Bay.<br><br>That's really the bottom line. <br><br>Speaking of that, who is YOUR favorite filmmaker? Go ahead, share it with us. Let's see who is that PERFECT filmmaker you drool over.<br><br>I'm really curious.<br><br>==============<br>By your own "objective" reasoning, this would make them his worst films. But you don't acknowledge that, because you don't actually care about objectivity.<br>==============<br><br>Huh??<br><br>When did I said that box office success or box office failure means that a movie is good or bad?? I never that. So if you don't mind, stop putting words in my mouth.<br><br>Thank you. <br><br><br>==================<br>You care about faking it when it suits you, and chucking it when it doesn't<br>==================<br><br><br>Kinda ironic coming from the person who ignored the majority of the stuff I said here. Careful cherry-picking, convenient ignoring of stuff, and putting words in my mouth is apparently what you like to do. <br><br><br>================<br>What do you mean "next time?" Your first reply here was calling my opinion a joke.<br>================<br><br>Uhhhh, that's because it IS a joke. Because it is not true and because it was posted with the clear intention to provoke. You are the Negative Nancy here, my friend. Not me. Jesus Christ, even your nickname tells people exactly what they can expect from you......"Cynical Makooti". <br><br><br>====================<br>I didn't insult you for anything other than lying to win an argument<br>====================<br><br>Oh, that's true....................you're certainly not winning this argument. I mean, that's obvious. <br><br>And..... I never posted a lie. Just because "your sources" claim something different doesn't mean it's the truth. Pacific Rim wasn't a success - considering the huge expactations and the fact that the movie's budget is $200 freakin' million - and they DID try to start a franchise with 300. They failed. <br><br><br>================<br>Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.<br>================<br><br>That's rich. Coming from the guy who calls himself "Cynical Makooti". The guy who now plays the victim, even though he was the one who started this with a childish, trollish comment. <br><br>Look at my first reply to you. I was jokingly mimicking your style. Intentionally. Then you tried to be a smartass with your next reply. But EVEN THEN, I responded in a normal way with my second post. After that........you unleashed your true self. <br><br>And now, you're acting like the victim: "Poor me, being attacked by a crazy Bay fan!" <br><br>So please, don't talk about self-awareness. It ain't working.<br><br><br><br>================<br>Pacific Rim was a domestic bomb that turned things around with its international box office.<br>================<br><br>Haha, maybe you should read more Forbes. Take a look at what they said about the entire (already failed) Pac Rim universe. Read a bit more on how much money the studio lost from the first flick and why they actually went with a sequel. It ain't because the first one was a beloved hit. <br><br><br>=======<br>The Last Knight lost about $100M according to Paramount themselves. That doesn't sound like an international success to me.<br>=======<br><br>Okay, I believe you. Now, would you please share the link to that statement from Paramount. <br><br>Thank you. <br><br><br>=============<br>Maybe it does to you, but I can't speak for that little fantasy world you seem to be living in right now.<br>=============<br><br>Hey, it's certainly a better and more reasonable place than your world. A world where you completely dismiss and ignore the accomplishments of one of the biggest filmmakers out there.<br><br>What's your next claim? <br><br>That Donnie Trump is the best President in history?<br><br><br>Have a nice day!Do any of you think that Junkie's Justice League score will ever get released or leaked? I was really excited to hear how Junkie planned on developing the themes used in the prior DCEU movies. Especially the Batman themes from BVS. It's a damn shame how WB handled that film."Why do Bay naysayers pretend that Bay only directs TF movies? It's very interesting...... Pretty much all complaints against Bay are connected to the TF movies.<br><br>Newsflash: Bay was a proven and very successful action filmmaker wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before TF1."<br><br>Newsflash: I avoided bringing up the TF films in this thread until AFTER you dragged them into it.  Only then did I treat them as fair game.  Considering they make up a third of his filmography, I don't see why I SHOULDN'T address them.  How convenient is it that bringing them up is only ever valid when YOU do it?<br><br>More to the point, I already said I thought his decline kicked in from Pearl Harbor onwards.  The TF films are just his rock bottom.<br><br>"So let me get this straight: trying to be as objective as possible, in a non-threating way, quoting people who actually know what they're talking about and certainly not treating my opinion as fact, makes me......psychotic."<br><br>Going after every person that doesn't like Bay and trying to obsessively "debunk" them is psychotic, yes.  And constantly referring to other people's opinions and whinging about the box office doesn't make you objective, especially with how self-contradictory the latter has been.<br><br>Pain & Gain and 13 Hours, his supposedly best films, also have his lowest box office turnouts.  13 Hours was a flat-out bomb.  By your own "objective" reasoning, this would make them his worst films.  But you don't acknowledge that, because you don't actually care about objectivity.<br><br>You care about faking it when it suits you, and chucking it when it doesn't.<br><br>"Next time, I'll just act like a complete jerk, insulting everyone and everything."<br><br>What do you mean "next time?"  Your first reply here was calling my opinion a joke.  You already have this method down.  You're just too dishonest to admit it.<br><br>Notice how I avoided accusing you of anything until AFTER you started outright lying about movies and flaunting it as objective fact.<br><br>You insulted ME first, pal.  I didn't insult you for anything other than lying to win an argument.  Not for your opinions, not for your celebrity crush, for being a disingenuous twat. <br><br>Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.<br><br>"Reviews, RT scores, and crappy film blog "think pieces" are also not proof of quality."<br><br>Then it's a good thing I never quoted a single one of those, let alone as objective proof, isn't it?<br><br>Man, appeal to authority, appeal to popularity, mistaking correlation for causation, slothful induction, strawmanning, I could make a bingo game outta this.<br><br>"So that flick, according to you, turned a profit.......but TLK - budget of also $200 million and with a worldwide gross of $605 million..........is a bomb?"<br><br>Not "according to me."  According to the studios that make the actual films.  And Forbes.  Remember Forbes?  You considered their word inarguable fact a couple posts ago.<br><br>https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2013/09/02/pacif ic-rim-and-more-domestic-flops-that-became-global-hits/#3f3e 914d7c18<br><br>Well whaddaya know?<br><br>Pacific Rim was a domestic bomb that turned things around with its international box office.<br><br>That thing you said TF5 was but actually wasn't.<br><br>The Last Knight lost about $100M according to Paramount themselves.  That doesn't sound like an international success to me.<br><br>Maybe it does to you, but I can't speak for that little fantasy world you seem to be living in right now.<br><br>Wow!  Just wow!ThxSeville, The Bait, Ambrose Welcomes Nyah, Chimera Myth, Beach Fight, Ambrose Dies.
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Hans ZimmerNick Glennie-SmithHarry Gregson-WilliamsDon Harper
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The Rock (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 107'32
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  1. Opening (3:54)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  2. Naval Weapons Depot (4:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  3. Baby Gas (2:26)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  4. Romance #1 (0:19)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  5. Tour's Over, Bob (3:29)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper, Steven Stern
  6. Hummel Speech - Alcatraz Reopened (2:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  7. Hummel's Demands To Pentagon (1:21)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  8. Romance #2 (0:46)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  9. Mason Montage (1:24)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Steven Stern
  10. San Francisco Montage (1:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Russ Landau
  11. Interrogation (1:02)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Steven Stern
  12. The Quarter (0:41)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Steven Stern
  13. Window Crash - Fairmont (2:07)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Steven Stern
  14. Haircut - Escape: The Chase!! (8:22)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Don Harper
  15. Goodspeed Tracks Jade (0:49)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  16. Jade (1:59)
    Nick Glennie-Smith
  17. Blueprints (1:06)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  18. Hummel - SEALs (7:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  19. Mason Into Furnace - SEALs Tunnel (1:14)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper
  20. In The Tunnels (3:32)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams, Don Harper, Steven Stern
  21. SEAL Attack (4:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Steven Stern
  22. Aftermath (0:49)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  23. Bombs (3:43)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  24. Hammer Head (1:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  25. The Morgue (2:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  26. Indiana Jones - Fight With Marines (4:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  27. Hostage - Goodspeed Captured (5:35)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  28. Plasma Bomb Is Ready (0:51)
    Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  29. Mason's Walk (4:10)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  30. First Launch (1:54)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  31. President's Lament (1:57)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  32. Mission's Over (5:28)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  33. Final Attack (3:07)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  34. The Last Chip (2:26)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Harry Gregson-Williams
  35. Finale (Part 1) (2:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  36. Finale (Part 2) (3:24)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  37. Fort Walton, Kansas (1:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  38. Hummel - SEALs (Alternate) (1:56)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  39. In The Tunnels (Alternate 1) (1:37)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper
  40. In The Tunnels (Alternate 2) (1:31)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith, Don Harper
  41. Fort Walton, Kansas (Alternate) (1:40)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
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timo reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-16 00:00:00
were can i buy these cd's

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Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-16 00:00:00
timo : unfortunately nowhere...

Mr Tweedy thanks for the explanation !

And you're right, few cues really sound HGW...

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-16 00:00:00
Hi Per,

If you look at the same interview, Zimmer explains why he was called : Michael Bay didn't liked the themes of Nick. He loved the music, but not the themes. Zimmer was called to write new themes in order to replace G-Smith's ones, while keeping the overall NGS style.

I'm maybe wrong, but I ever thought that the new Zimmer themes were replacing those 3 themes of NGS's The Rock ideas.
Zimmer also said something like "I wrote a few material, but since it's used many times in the movie, it sounds like I did a lot of the music, but it's definitely Nick's score". Of course, Zimmer must be talking about the main theme which is used so many times in the score. He wrote the themes, but NGS did the arrangements of it, this is why it sounds NGS... any comment? :P

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-16 00:00:00
Mr Tweedy said:

"Zimmer said he wrote 3 themes to replace NGS's original ones. If it is true, Zimmer replaced the 3 themes from "The Rock Ideas" : -> main theme, mason's theme & the guitar theme (for goodspeed & his girlfriend)...."

Have he said this in a interview ? (if he did, do you remember which one, and if it's still avaible somewhere, do you have a link for it, maybe ?

I've read Zimmer said in interview(s) that "The Rock was really Nick's score, except I wrote a couple of themes on it.", but if that means 2, or 3 themes, and I don't know if the themes he made for it, replaced the 3 'rejected' (?)/demos/ideas themes by NG-S, i don't know.

Personally i always have thought that The Rock is Nick Glennie-Smith's score ('main' composer), regardless of who's written what, and how much... it's not necessarely the one who has composed the main themes that are the main composer, and the same the other way around (in other 'cases')

But it would have been interesting to know exactly who did which themes, cues etc. on it (along with all the other scores too) ;)

per reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-15 00:00:00
Where can you buy* this cd ?

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-15 00:00:00
Harry Gregson-Williams told once he worked on the Chase music, but he's not credited... maybe Harper just did some part of it and not completely.
Zimmer said he wrote 3 themes to replace NGS's original ones. If it is true, Zimmer replaced the 3 themes from "The Rock Ideas" : -> main theme, mason's theme & the guitar theme (for goodspeed & his girlfriend).

Zimmer & NGS worked closely, maybe a great part of the score is from both of them... cannot really tell who did what. HGW's parts are pretty obvious, since he used a lot of the same sound samples in many other movies (Armageddon, Metal Gear Solid, Replacement Killers...), his "sound" is very recognizable. I would say he composed a lot of the fight scenes in the tunnels, the morgue music, and maybe some cues of the last scene (when Goodspeed confronts the last surviving marine).

perr reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-14 00:00:00
Where can you buy* this cd ?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-13 00:00:00
On the other SFX bootlegs (and even if it is low quality ;-)) missing tracks can be found :

- The "Marriage" track (0:50) in a good quality...
- The "This is not training" track (1:02) in a quite bad quality LOL because of SFX...

I don't know if there's other missing track available on these SFX boots... At least it's better than nothing...

Dawn reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-12 00:00:00
Why adding the End Credits ?
It's only a mix of previously hears cues from this expanded CD in a lower audio quality due to DVD compression...

Unknown reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-12 00:00:00
@D Wade:

This is what i know (not 100% sure):

The Chase - Don Harper
Opening Title - Hans Zimmer
Mine Music - Harry Gregson Williams
Jade Music, Lift Off, and more - Nick Glennie Smith

There also some rumors that James Newton Howard has written some parts :)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-12 00:00:00
We can also add to this expanded the End Credits track from the 24 tracks SFX expanded (5:33) !

;-)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Mr Tweedy, you said :

"The scene when mason goes through the flames to open the door is also missing, but fortunately, that cue is on the official release."

I really want to know which part of which track of the Official release it is ! ;-)

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Hybrid Soldier said:

"Mr Tweedy, you said :

"The scene when mason goes through the flames to open the door is also missing, but fortunately, that cue is on the official release."

I really want to know which part of which track of the Official release it is ! ;-) "

It's on track 4 - In The tunnels, the first 48 seconds! (the last few seconds are mixed together with the next cue (Welcome To The Rock)
...Like it is usually done on most of the CD soundtracks by Zimmer etc.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Thank you Per...

Do you know where to put this little important cue in the chronological order given by Dawn before ?

;-)

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
"Do you know where to put this little important cue in the chronological order given by Dawn before ? "

->
Right before the 'Welcome To The Rock'
(these two cues are actually in the correct chronological order on the CD (although they overlap by a few seconds on the CD)
So because of that, I guess it won't be that easy to extract this short piece from the CD (perfectly), without including the beginning of the 'Welcome To The Rock' - cue.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Yes indeed you're right Per, it's quite difficult ! ^^

I've done what I could...


Anyway it's better than nothing ! :-)

Thank you again !

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
I did the mix myself of the beginning of "welcome to the rock" and is pretty well made...
but huuuum... I think I'm better not to give my e-mail, right, or I'll have 20.000.000 asks for the complete score !

D Wade reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-11 00:00:00
Anybody know which tracks or themes were written by Hans and which were written by Glennie-Smith? From interviews it seems like even they don't know for sure...

Remco reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-10 00:00:00
Yes can anyone tell us how can get those cd's?

evil one reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-09 00:00:00
it´s not an Hans Zimmer Score, it´s an Nick Glennie Smith score!!!!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-09 00:00:00
I agree evil one... It's sounds NGS for sure...

But this score is great because we have a perfect relation between Zimmer, NGS and HGW music and styles...

Roy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-09 00:00:00
Where can you buy* this cd ?

Dawn reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-07 00:00:00
It was not exactly a new year's present, it became available during last summer. :P

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-06 00:00:00
You better hold that Mr Tweedy! We may never know, Hans may come up with something much better than what he's already offered us. Then you'll have to come back to this business again and... well... We don't want to lose our reputation for being the man of our words then, do we? LOL

Compatto, you gotta point there bud but take it easy. Only hardcore fans go after and find these releases and I can assure you that these people know who was in charge! ;-)

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-06 00:00:00
Halelujah baby.

Now this is what I call a new year's start.

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-06 00:00:00
Hey Hybrid Soldier,
Well, as I'm a fanatic of Black Hawk Down, the "patchwork" of both official CD, DVD music, and promo releases doesn't really suits me.
I'd like to hear the music as it used in the movie, and not the collage some guy has made on his computer. lol

Of course Sylvos, if Zimmer (or Gregson-Williams, Powell etc...) does something incredible not released, I'd have to come back (sounds really dramatic !).
But my want list was : Face/Off, The Rock, BHD, Thin Red Line, Armageddon and Bad Boys. I've most of those now... can't wait for the few missing ones !
The only missing cue I've found from The Thin Red Line is an instrumental reprise of one of the melanesian songs, on a Badelt promo, unfortunately the only one :'(

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-06 00:00:00
Hey Mr Tweedy, the 3 CD Black Hawk Down isn't bad... ;-)

But you're right, I can't wait for a Thin Red Line Complete... ^^

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-05 00:00:00
Yeah, I hope the treasure chest will open again soon.
Can't wait for expanded versions of the two score I love so much : The Thin Red Line and Black Hawk Down.
After those ones, I'll disappear from the complete score trading universe... coz my mission will be accomplished ! :P

Compatto reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-05 00:00:00
Why is write Hans Zimmer in the cover?
The lead composer of the score is Nick Glennie-Smith

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