Executive Soundtrack Album Producers: Michael Bay & Lorenzo Di Bonaventura Executive in Charge of Music for Paramount Pictures: Randy Spendlove Album Compiled by Alan Meyerson & Steve Jablonsky
Music Recorded & Mixed by Alan Meyerson Orchestra Conducted by Nick Glennie-Smith Orchestrators: Bruce Fowler, Suzette Moriarty, Walter Fowler, Rick Giovinazzo, Penka Kouneva, Elizabeth Finch & Ken Kugler Supervising Music Editor: Ramiro Belgardt Music Editors: Tom Trafalski & Peter Myles Music Supervisor: Dave Jordan
Soloists: Guitar: George Doering & Michael Brook Cello: Martin Tillman Percussion: Alex Acuna, Luis Conti, Brad Dutz, Mike Fisher, Dan Greco, Brian Kilgore & M.B. Gordy
Choir Conducted by James Brett Choir Coordinator: Nyree Pinder Music Preparation: Booker White Music Contractors: Peter Rooter & Sandy DeCrescent Pro Tools Operators: Larry Mah, Slamm Andrews & Kevin Globerman Additional Recording: Jeff Biggers, Rupert Coulson & Andrew Dudman Engineering Assistants: Zack Howard, Jake Jackson & Greg Vines Supervising Technical Score Engineer: Chandra Cogburn Advising Technical Score Engineer: Pete Snell Technical Score Engineer: Pieter Schlosser Technical Assistants: Jacob Shea, Noah Sorota & Dave Holden Music Production Services: Steven Kofsky Score Mixed at: Remote Control Productions Album Mastered by Louis Teran, Marcussen Mastering
For Susie
The composer would like to thank Michael Bay, Steven Spielberg, Ian Bryce, Tom DeSanto, Lorenzo di Bonaventura, Don Murphy, Randy Spendlove, Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams, Bob Badami, Pat Sandston, Andrew Form, Brad Fuller, Jay Flood, T.J. Lindgren, Trevor Morris, Blake Neely, Mike Simon, Alastair King, Paul Rubell, Glen Scantlebury, Tom Muldoon, Kevin O'Connel, Greg Russell, Joli Eberhart, Shalini Singh, Dr. Steve O'Day & the very special people at The Angeles Clinic, Dr. David Kipper, Susie Curiel, Lucy Jablonsky, Jon Jablonsky, Juanita Nunez, & everyone at DreamWorks, Paramount Pictures, Bay Films & Remote Control Productions.
Additional thank you to Nick Bonomo, Robyn Booker, Julie Butchko, Dan Butler, Sheryl Carlin, Denise Carver, Maria Cechettini, Jayne Edwards, Robin Farrace, Gil Garcia, Robert Gasper, Jeremy Geltzer, Danielle Geye, Jennifer Hawks, Charlene Huang, Sonia Jauregui, Matt Lilley, Denise Luiso, Liz McNicoll, Alex Nickson, Marty Olinick, Linda Osher, Sunny Park, Aron Pinsky, Greg Rice, Jason Richmond, Irene Rocha, Jennifer Schiller, Kim Seiniger, Susan Siering, Linda Springer, Evelyn Stevenson, Carly Vermes, Vince Villanueva, Hallie Volman, Linda Wohl
Release date : 10/09/2007
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So I've recently been revisiting the score of the 2007 TF game based on this movie and man, is the music fun as hell. It honestly makes me wonder why Jay Flood didn't get more work. Thematically of course it's nowhere near the movie in terms of development and memorability, but overall I believe it's one of the best Jablonsky scores out there.
From a pure writing/composition standpoint, it's vastly superior to the movie. With some bold brass triplets, advanced string writing, chromatic lines here and there, atonal sections, a wider variety of overall tone, and even some memorable themes for the Autobots, Decepticons, and the main theme introduced in the main menu.
So what do you guys think of the game's music. I've never seen any mention of it on here, and I'd be curious how this community received it.
Bayhem
2020-01-12 10:57:23
Never listebed to the game music....I always thought it wasn't as worthy as the movie score.
I cry when i listen to ''Optimus'', who did that Hybrid? Just Steve?
Bayhem
2019-05-01 16:37:22
Speaking of "who did what?", I wonder who actually did 'Scorponok'...….mainly the part that we all love :))) . It's not exactly a Balfe-style track, and honestly it screams "Jablonsky" to me, but I could be wrong....
Michael Baker
2019-05-01 18:18:38
Well, not much in this score is "just Steve", Jack. ;) So Optimus probably has someone else's input in there.
@Bayhem, I remember Hybrid putting Scorponok on Trevor Morris' page when the music samples were here. Doesn't mean he did all of it, but I guess he helped out.
Bayhem
2019-05-01 20:20:51
I remember Hybrid putting Scorponok on Trevor Morris' page when the music samples were here. Doesn't mean he did all of it, but I guess he helped out. ............................
Interesting. He got "special thanks" credit on IMDb, but he's not listed as an additional composer.
I guess he didn't work a lot on that project....
jack bell
2019-05-01 20:59:33
Did you notice? Optimus track is like Hans Zimmer's Knight Of March from King Arthur
Mephariel
2019-05-02 02:28:31
That is not surprising. There are numerous similarities between King Arthur and Transformers.
KnightLite
2019-05-02 13:49:35
And potc2 is nearly a direct rip of King Arthur
superultramegaa
2019-05-04 22:09:50
My guess is "Optimus" is solo Steve. First of all it's a suite, and those are usually the main composer's solo tracks, but you can tell it's Jablonsky by the style.
The choir is still there but used at more key parts, the main tune is simple, but melodic, and the flute is featured quite prominently showing Steve's aptitude for woodwinds for one of the few times in there series. The final third is also very Steamboy in its combination of melody and rhythm, and the type of percussion that is used (sticks and lighter drums).
The only other possible credit is what's been hinted at a few times on the forum already which is Lorne Balfe co-composing "Bumblebee" (aka the Journey suite). Which I find very plausible because the slow chords that make a lot of the theme just doesn't sound like Jablonsky at all to me.
Michael Baker
2019-05-06 04:43:33
Lorne doing Journey Suite is legit, not just speculation. :)
superultramegaa
2019-05-06 21:32:28
Well, in that case I can add quite a few new credits to my collection!
From the real 24 bits sound of Hans Zimmer works, it is kind auditory entertainment from my SONY WH 900 headphone which sound like in Dolby system that I know it is more than 156 bits of sound..........Wowwww Wuuuuuuuuuuu ........... Here is the world of myself in this terrific musics without any vocal in the music. Cool.................STF immerse in the world of REAL SOUND AND MUSIC.........
SPENSER
2018-05-30 13:22:17
you on drugs?
Hybrid Soldier
2018-05-30 18:54:55
It seems they do have good drugs in Taiwan... :o
Anonymous
2018-05-30 18:56:35
Taiwan?! are u able to locate the IP address?
lol
2018-05-30 23:11:35
Yeah I'm sure he looks at IPs to see who is impersonating who
Hybrid Soldier
2018-05-31 00:12:09
Exactly ! :o
Powellfan
2018-05-31 04:40:26
Wouldn't you be violating some sort of privacy law or something if you actually publicize where he's from?
I forgot the other music composer-Steve Jablonsky that his style of music with Hans Zimmer. Still again it is kind manipulate our hearing if anyone of you really like the sea of different auditory stimulus in different experiment with different sound effects. This is it. I am really into the AUDITORY WORLD.
Why is Hans uncredited? I'll take it that Bumblebee/AllSpark are Steve's themes then.
James
2017-06-25 19:54:16
No, what @MrZimmerFan meant is Hans took the idea of Jablosky and not that he developed it. Ramin was also inspired on this piece for another one of Game of Thrones.
Hybrid, what do we know so far about the TRANSFORMERS 4 score yet?
thejok3rrules
2014-06-05 03:40:29
Well, thank you people for totally ignoring my question.
Everan
2014-06-05 07:01:09
Besides the song Battle Ccry being released, there are really no news at all, which they should be becuase we are 22 days sawy from the premiere, in the US anyway.
I remember the third film's score was like this too, it took a long while to get out and all.
thejok3rrules
2014-06-05 15:07:49
Since our dear friend Hybrid seems to know everything, I thought he could perhaps tell me something I don't know. Nonetheless, thank you, Everan.
Adam
2014-06-05 18:21:10
Well the score was released on iTunes the day the film opened (June 29th), it just never had a physical release, and STILL doesn't, to this day. I too am beginning to get a little concerned regarding this. Hybrid, any word? Please let us know
Everan
2014-06-05 18:40:41
Actually, Adam, I heard that in hte Transformers Ride thing, they do have CD's of the Dark of the Moon score. Can't make sure because I'm in a completely different country, lol.
Do hope the score is released a few days before the US premiere, it'll make the 2 weeks of wating to see the film less stressful because it got delayed 2 weeks where I live. Thank you World Cup.
Adam
2014-06-05 19:21:52
Oh, really? That's pretty awesome. But while I do live in the US, I'm hundreds of miles away from the Transformers ride.
Sorry to hear it got delayed where you are. If it got delayed here in the states, I'd riot. Just 22 more days!! Now if we can just get an ETA on the score release, that'd be great. There's not even any word of the OST, either. All I know is lousy Imagine Dragons and that Skrillex is contributing to the sound design. Now THAT could be interesting.
Edmund Meinerts
2014-06-05 19:24:47
Skrillex? Oh joy... :/
Everan
2014-06-05 20:00:02
It's just sound design for the Dinobots, nothing to do with Jablonsky's score. Also, Battle Cry will be featured in the score in key parts of the film, the official Imagine Dragons announcement said that. So you can expect the great percussions of the songs around the score.
Anonymous
2014-06-06 05:24:25
Hybrid, what say you :)
Hybrid Soldier
2014-06-06 13:11:51
I say nothing, there's nothing to say... Wait & see... I have no more news so far...
Ds
2014-06-06 14:01:44
I think Jablonsky isn't fond of advertising, so his scores are always a bit secretive. Or maybe it has something to do with Bay, who also seems a little protective and not keen on spilling secrets.
Hybrid Soldier
2014-06-06 14:09:23
Historically Bay's score are a HUGE MESS, so it's always difficult or last minute planning... Doesn't help...
Ds
2014-06-06 15:35:02
It's funny because they may be huge mess, but always end up being very good!
Everan
2014-06-06 15:45:12
Indeed, they are alwayas great.
Funny, I don't remember seeing these issues with other Jablonsky/Bay scores, other than the first and last Transformers. I remember having Revenge of the Fallen and Pain & Gain being released with no drama.
I do remember that the Dark of the Moon took a while because of trying not to reveal spoilers in the tracklist, and Bay was too secretive about them so the score took a while to be released. That was an exciting day, seeing tracklist and cover the very day it was getting released in Australia and everyone going crazy.
Adam
2014-06-07 17:16:34
Hybrid, why are Bay's scores always a HUGE mess? I know things got very heated between him and HGW for Armageddon (and why none of his material made it to the OST), but what goes on that causes a mess?
Hybrid Soldier
2014-06-07 18:07:05
Well it's Bay ! And if he doesn't like, he DOESN'T LIKE... It's nothing personal (or Jablonsky wouldn't have survived so many films with him), but like Ridley Scott or Greengrass (the world champion), he's not easy to please...
I guess only the first Bad Boys and Pain & Gain went relatively well "on schedule"...
But The Rock was the first, NGS almost "fired", HZ saving the day with a lot of people (HGW, Harper, Stern, Russ Landau...).
Armageddon, Rabin was quite a newbie and definitely not up to the task of facing "the Bay" alone, with a huge back up from Media Ventures : Paul Linford, Trevor's guy, & Don Harper, HGW, Jablonsky, Van Tongeren, HZ, even Alex Wurman...) and 3 tons of rewritings... Dave Metzger, who was orchestrator on the movie, once told me he was orchestrating cues from his hotel room, and some were being recorded without even Bay/Jerry B.'s approval... lol
Pearl Harbor, well other than Hans' total uninterest for the project, was also a feast of constant rewritings and an army of writers, more or less credited. Some Extreme Music "Directors Cuts" CD is full of Pearl Harbor's rejected cues by Zanelli, Jablonsky, Badelt, Levine...
Bad Boys II... Well what to say... Clash between Bay & Mancina (though some of his work remained in the score), replaced by his friend Rabin, a name hiding an armada of composers : Dr. Dre & Mike Helizondo for the "rap" part of the score, + Steve Jablonsky, HGW, Trevor Morris, Clay Duncan, Mel Wesson, Tim Heintz, Paul Linford, Heitor Pereira, Toby Chu & Mancina's leftovers... The score makes no sense at all, which actually makes it cool to listen to ! haha
The Jablonsky/Bay ones haven't been really easy either, for various reasons, with Hans helping again from time to time. For instance TF3 had that big "Mind Heist" temptrack issue... A few composers who worked on it told me how much they hated the whole thing, it even made the Gire/Sponsler duo drop scoring films since then, focusing on their Brand X Production Music...
Edmund Meinerts
2014-06-07 18:10:26
Seems like The Island is another one that went relatively painlessly...one of the few. :p
Ds
2014-06-07 18:51:32
Hybrid, if Hans was totally uninterested in Pearl Harbor, why did he accept to do it?
By the way, I find a little ironic that Pearl Harbor is still one of HZ's most widely popular scores.
Hybrid Soldier
2014-06-07 19:04:01
Well he probably was interested for 10 minutes, doing a theme... But after that... lol
Hans has never seen a Michael Bay film in full... Not any single one of them (even if he worked on most of them lol)... It doesn't prevent it from working with him all the time...
Lambegue
2014-06-07 20:15:10
I understand Zimmer. I myself never see one of his movie without being bored to death.
Ds
2014-06-07 20:45:21
Couldn't disagree more with him. I love Michael Bay. I really do. He's just unbeatable when it comes to OTT crazy action sequences. And he's got wonderful musical tastes.
NM
2014-06-07 23:25:36
Bay seems to be getting worse as time goes on. Can't recall any watchable film in the last ten years he's been involved with.
Hybrid Soldier
2014-06-07 23:27:47
Oh I can... Basically everyone of them ? :)
Can't wait for TF4... :P
Edmund Meinerts
2014-06-08 01:10:49
As far as I'm concerned, the only even halfway watchable movie Bay has ever made is The Rock. Both Transformers sequels were dreadful. But I don't have a problem with him; I don't have to go see his movies, after all, and the scores for his movies are usually enjoyable (Pain and Gain excepted).
Everan
2014-06-08 02:46:16
Well, that's your opinion Edmund. Which is totally and completely fine, we don't have the same tastes and all. Just express your opinion as an opinion and not a fact.
His films are simple entertainment. Nothing Oscar-worthy outside of the technical field. There's nothing wrong with likng his film because they are fantastic action films. Even Christopher Nolan and Neill Blomkamp love them for the way they're filmed and the technology used. They're not masterpieces in storytelling, no denying that,m but they're damn good for action, technology advances in film, and having great, out-of-this-world, brilliant times.
Everan
2014-06-08 02:49:06
And may I add, the score for Pain And Gain was something very strange to me. I don't like that sort of scores, less miminalistic scores. Some tracks sure, but not entire scores.
However, there was something I still can't put my finger on from the P&G score that I just clicked on and loved it. Not sure if the sound, the rythm, I just did. It's very strange.
RealFfingMusic
2014-06-08 02:49:28
Agreed about The Rock
But Transformers and the first half of The Island was quite good. And Bad Boys, although meaningless, was quite enjoyable (provided you're not too grumpy.
Ds
2014-06-08 09:15:36
Everan, you sum it up perfectly. We love Bay for what he does, not for what he does not. He doesn't give a shit for character development or screenplay (let's not forget he's not a screenwriter), and that's perfectly fine. You know exactly what you're in for: large-scale action. A you get plenty of it, and awesomely well made.
Me too, can't wait for TF4. And I loved the Pain & Gain score, it was just the kind of score this movie needed, Jablonsky did a damn fine job.
Hybrid Soldier
2014-06-08 09:27:06
Well as for character development, Pain & Gain was a huge improvement... ;)
The thing is Bay can make anything credible with his directing... Honestly back 9 years ago when they announced they would do a "Transformers" live action movie, my only reaction was "WTF !" and... he did it ! He made a now 4 movies saga about giant talking alien robots fighting in our streets ! LOL
I love P&G's score, Run Him Over is probably one of my most played tracks of 2013... That's funny I consider Bay (& Jerry B.) to be more responsible for the big Zimmer/MV action sound more than HZ himself...
I think Hans keeps working for Bay for 2 reasons : he can have fun when everyone else wants him to be drop dead serious ; if Bay thinks his music is shit, he tells him his music is shit, Zimmer or not, and start over... And HZ has a deep fear directors/producers don't date telling him he's going the wrong way... And Jablonsky learnt not to take horrible reviews of his work by Bay something personal, and just keeps trying to survive the day... :)
NM
2014-06-08 11:42:18
"Well, that's your opinion Edmund. Which is totally and completely fine, we don't have the same tastes and all. Just express your opinion as an opinion and not a fact."
Of *course* it's his opinion.
This is a little bugbear of mine. It's a very dismissive thing to say. When someone says "The film is great", "the film sucks", the "in my opinion" clause is generally implied. I don't see any particular need to suffix every opinion you hold with "in my opinion". He even said "As far as I'm concerned"! Sorry for the mini-rant but the "in YOUR opinion" epithet should be outlawed.
"They're not masterpieces in storytelling, no denying that, but they're damn good for action, technology advances in film, and having great, out-of-this-world, brilliant times."
In your opinion. (See how pointless that is!).
I think they're boring. Action with no consequence just doesn't interest me. I go the cinema to see films not videogame cutscenes.
There's no doubt some of the technical work and technology that goes into the films is incredible. If only that could be combined with an actual script that isn't saturated in casual sexism, proper likeable characters, and a less nauseating visual style. Making simple entertainment doesn't mean having to sacrifice those things.
Ds
2014-06-08 13:13:00
Well, NM, I think Bay's visual style is simply gorgeous and I could watch every scene of every one of his movies in repeat mode, just admiring the cinematography and the editing.
Adam
2014-06-08 18:36:34
Wow, interesting stuff Hybrid. Who knew? I guess since Jablonsky is now Bay's longest running composer (with Age of Extinction being his 5th collaboration with Bay), he (almost) has a handle on things? I know HZ came in for a few minor things on RoTF, and the usual suspects contributed to The Island, TF1, RoTF, DotM, F13 and everything else, but it doesn't sound like things got too too bad. It's kinda nice to know how picky and particular Bay is about the scores for his films. He sounds like my kind of picky :)
@Ds, I love Bay as well. His movies are just pure entertainment for me and "over the top" may be a bit of an understatement haha. I also love his style of filming, I always know when I'm watching a Bay film.
@Everan, I completely agree. As I was saying to Ds, I absolutely love Bay and his films. Look, are they the best film ever made? Absolutely not. Oscar worthy (outside of the technical field, which all 3 Transformers films have been nominated for and the Academy refuses to award)? No way. Great scripts? Not really. Character development? Not so much. But they're just big, loud, dukb, fun entertainment. And that's what I enjoy. I'm not looking for the next Inception when it comes to Bay, I know he'll blow my mind - he always does. I guess if I had anything negative to say, it would be the awful humor in the Transformers trilogy (he swears there's none of that in AoE, but he always says stuff to throw people off, so I definitely have my doubts), and the heavily saturated look of the films. As as if they've been soaked in bronzer lol.
One more thing Hybrid: I remember back when DotM came out, you went on a little mini rant about how it ended and it was awful. I agree it was a lousy ending, but seeing you comment about hoe much you love the films, do you still feel that way about it? Just curious if your view has changed on it, that's all.
And as soon as you get word on the AoE score, PLEASE let us know. "Help us, Hybrid Soldier. You're our only hope" ;)
Hybrid Soldier
2014-06-08 18:49:04
Yes exactly, I still find the ending of TF3 to be terrible & rushed... It was not a way to end a 3 films saga... I'm glad there's a new film to correct that... :P
Adam
2014-06-08 19:18:20
Hah, you know it's funny - before I hit "submit", I was thinking to myself ("I'll bet he's happy there's a 4th film and 3 can kinda be forgotten about"). I'm happy as well, and glad to know that that's not how the story ends and that there's more to come. It was like the end of Indiana Jones 4. Just lousy and a horrible way to end something
Everan
2014-06-08 21:35:15
TF3 can't be forgotten because TF4 is a direct sequel. Sure, about 3 years after, but the whole Chicago destruction is the reason humans want the Transformers dead. Sorry, it can't be forgotten.
I did feel rushed the ending of TF3, but after an almost full hour of action, I did not complain. And with TF4, there's no reason to hate it since we get a full 2:34 action film with Dinobots and new villain bots and who knows what else there is.
Anonymous
2014-06-09 07:07:44
"And HZ has a deep fear directors/producers don't date telling him he's going the wrong way"
Is there a typo in here?
Hybrid Soldier
2014-06-09 07:11:24
LOL
"dare" ?
Happy sir ? :P
RealFfingMusic
2014-06-09 11:21:44
Is there anyone else who thinks dinobots are stupid?
(Seriously, what did they scan?)
Everan
2014-06-09 15:03:40
From what I read, still not a hundred percent sure though, the Dinobots left Cybertron and arrived to Earth, as usual and scanned and studied dinosaurs and disguised as them so they wouldn't be found, then the dino extinction came and they remained dormant under the earth until whatever happens in the film and awaken.
Again, not 100% sure as if that's what happens, the film's intro will surely explain that, kinda like the Moon landing intro from TF3.
And actually, I did find them a bit dumb for the films, that's until I saw Grimlock and the rest in action, with their film designs and all. Now I really can't wait to see them killing and butchering bots.
Adam
2014-06-09 19:52:06
@Everan,
I didn't mean forgotten. I just meant the ending. It was horrible, an awful way to end a trilogy. TDKR - THAT is how you wrap up a trilogy. Not the way DotM did. I'm a die-hard Transformers fan, but let's be honest: there are so many errors in the trilogy that it's not even funny. I just try to let it go and not bother me, though
Everan
2014-06-09 23:21:36
I wouldn't go that far. Sure, it was a short ending but I always knew it wasn't the end of the TF films, so it wasn't a problem to me
Bayhem
2017-06-08 11:43:34
Hmm, I'm surprised to learn about Zimmer's "total uninterest" for Pearl Harbor. Not only it's one of his most popular scores, but let's not forget that he was nominated for a Golden Globe for that movie. So, interested or not, he created something really good and memorable. Besides, both Bay and Zimmer are not only frequent collaborators, but good friends as well. One example of that: the Ice Bucket Challenge. Remember that? Friends "challenging" friends. P.S. I agree with Hybrid Soldier: I also think that Bay, Bruckheimer (and Tony Scott) are responsible for the big MV/RC action sound, more so than Zimmer and his crew. It makes sense, they were the ones pushing for that kind of sound.
can anyone tell me why Hans Zimmer is mentioned here for score producer and additional music?
look at notable mentions
wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jablonsky
Hybrid Soldier
2013-10-26 13:23:44
Do you know that reading Wikipedia will mostly damage your brain ?
The guy even mentioned HZ as producer for TF3. All this is not true...
Areozz
2013-10-26 14:38:34
God damn, if there's one thing that people really need to start accepting, it's that Wikipedia actually is a reliable source. There may be some inaccuracies or false information depending on the magnitude of the article...But the fact of the matter is: Wikipedia has been around for over a decade now. And it has become essentially what it was aiming to be: an online encyclopedia that contains all the world's knowledge. What do you know, Hybrid Soldier?
Ds
2013-10-26 14:53:29
You're right Aerozz, but the "additional composers" or "producers" of a movie's score is something that very few people know (and are interested in, actually). So for that kind of very specific information, Wikipedia is absolutely NOT reliable.
Areozz
2013-10-26 15:32:04
Fair enough.
Hybrid Soldier
2013-10-26 16:37:31
It's just before I got in charge of H-Z.com in 2008 I used to handle all the RCP wiki pages myself (mainly the French ones though), so I know how it works and what it's like. And generally when I come back to see what it has become, I'm horrified by some things I see.
Pages there are not indeed as bad as I make them look in my previous post... But people there generally correct all the known things and what can be checked. As Ds says, in the score world, the public knows like, what, 30% of the actual thing ? So who's gonna be on Wikipedia to correct them if someone says HZ wrote this or that on this or that score... Anyway, to get back on topic, that specific information we're discussing here is incorrect. That's all... :D
this is ridiculous... first the official release, then we had extended / expanded / almost Complete / the full complete score / music from recording sessions / the complete recording sessions with alternate, unused, unreleased, uncomposed, unexisting tracks but simply the film version of the decepticon's theme is still not available (frenzy hacks air force one)
I wonder if anyone could provide the information for what other composers worked on this score. I'm curious to see if any one of them might have posted some music that has yet to be found on any of the million expanded bootlegs out there.
...And if not a total list of credits, at least some kind of list of the other composers who wrote for this score.
Alex
2011-10-30 00:52:42
Main Themes/Music Composed by: STEVE K JABLONKSY STEVE K JABLONKSY & LORNE BALFE
Additional Music:
TREVOR MORRIS LORNE BALFE
Agntdman
2011-10-30 11:41:43
Alex, I think he meant who composed what, exactly. We can see the credits listed above. But we can't see who wrote each theme/cue
Mr. Fate
2011-10-30 14:29:08
Ah, yes, thanks for clarifying that a bit. I see now Alex was just being a smart ass. Yeah, Hybrid Soldier can usually provide the credits to all the tracks and since this has been out for a while, it seems like an okay thing to do.
Really, I was curious to know if there were a whole bunch of unlisted composers like there are for the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. I'm not even sure this site lists every single composer who wrote additional music for Pirates.
I'm sure I won't ever find anything as I think we aren't going to get any more Transformers music than what we've acquired thus far. Nevertheless, it would be nice to see to the credits listed for this movie.
Papapalpatine77
2011-10-31 01:08:11
People have asked repeatedly (I think I have once or twice) to get the credits for this. Is it so unreasonable to request it? I mean, there are scores on here that are really not high-priority and yt the credits for said scores are listed. This is one of my favorite film scores of all time, I would like the credits please. Too much to ask?
Agntdman
2011-10-31 01:35:45
Yes, Papapalpatine. I agree with you 100%. I would like the credits for this score. AS WELL AS Revenge of the Fallen & Dark of the Moon!!!!!!
Mr. Fate
2011-10-31 02:31:23
Woah...woah. Let's not get too demanding there, Agntdman. From what I've seen in the past, they'll only list the credits for stuff that's been out for a long time. Hybrid JUST RECENTLY posted the credits for the first Pirates of the Caribbean, and that's bee out for over 8 years!
*It is nice to know that Scorponok was co-written with Trevor Morris, though. :p
Anonymous
2011-10-31 04:59:08
Mmmm Trevor Morris, oooooooh yeaaaah.
Uck. Fan-wankery in the extreme, D.
Agntdman
2011-10-31 05:27:53
Sherlock Holmes, On Stranger Tides, The Dark Knight (no on it's official page, but someone posted it) WWII in HD and At world's End are just some of the few which are under 8 years old and have credits. I wouldn't even call these movies old yet.
Hybrid Soldier
2011-10-31 08:16:38
It's simple : there's no details anywhere to find who did what... :S
Mr. Fate
2011-10-31 13:23:59
Ah...Well, thank you Hybrid. I suppose that answer will have to do.
Agntdman
2011-11-01 06:16:38
Ok, so......how about Revenge of the Fallen? Or....Dark of the Moon? No? Let me guess, credits don't exist for those either, hmm?
Bondo
2011-11-01 10:21:19
You guys need to do some of the legwork and check ASCAP and composer interviews. That's where most of this info comes from.
Hybrid Soldier
2011-11-01 11:28:35
Every single credit is known for TF2.
TF3, it's just too soon !
Mr. Fate
2011-11-01 14:46:31
@Bondo: yeah, sure we could, but we don't have the authority or ability to edit the pages on this website--people like Hybrid do. I don't want to have to keep a page bookmarked just to look up who composed what or a Word document dedicated to the subject, or for that matter, spend hours searching that site just to find the info.
Ah, first world problems. It's really not that big of a deal; like I said, I was just curious.
Agntdman
2011-11-02 00:03:44
Ok, Hybrid. you say every single credit is known for RotF. Here it is:
1.) Prime (2:14) 2.) Einstein's Wrong (3:35) 3.) Nest (2:08) * 4.) The Shard (2:42) 5.) The Fallen (4:03) 6.) Infinite White (3:58) 7.) Heed Our Warning (4:26) 8.) The Fallen's Arrival (3:47) 9.) Tomb Of The Primes (2:47) 10.) Forest Battle (2:04) 11.) Precious Cargo (1:38) 12.) Matrix Of Leadership (3:50) 13.) I Claim Your Sun (3:06) 14.) I Rise, You Fall (3:35)
*Based on the song "New Divide" written & performed by Linkin Park
It then states up top that Zimmer & Balfe did additional music. So......where the hell are all the credits, I say?
You said you only add scores that are legit. So....we have this official release, the expanded release, and there's that infamous 72-track (73 if you count 'Road Reunion') so-called "complete" score. So is it real? It has a couple of unused and alt. tracks, the entire thing is in film order, and the length of it is longer than the film itself. And any possibility of adding who did which track? Thanks.
Macdawson
2011-10-15 16:35:42
At this point, my track count is at 76 (not counting 2 tracks from the trailers wich belong to other groups). The 72 Track ediition has all that had been previously released plus some Demos and Alternate tracks, some unused in the film. Recently i got the tracks that are in the WarmButterDesign DVD, most already in the 72tk Edition, except 4. One, titled "DEFCON Delta" appears in the movie when the SecDef is talking on TV, there's a trailer track wich mimics the 2 i mentioned but seems to be made by Jablonsky, and one titled "Unused Cue". The 4th is the bit that starts the "Arrival to Earth (Original Version)" track on the 72tk but is a bit smaller than that. If it was just that i wouldn't call it new but the mix is different.
But as far as i can recall there are only 3 different scores the official one (with 20 tracks) The expanded score (with 52 tracks) the expanded 2 cd score (with 72 tracks) and one with 13 tracks wich exists out of tracks from the previous scores i named.
And abseloutely none of them has the que of when sam speaks to bumblebee for the first time as far as i know. or does anyone know if i overlooked anything? this track i want it soo much.
Macdawson
2011-10-15 16:19:36
The track is "Optimus". In the movie it's missing, or if we go the other way around, in the CD they added, a flute "layer" to the track. Unless some bigger recording sessions Edition exists out there with aa fluteless version, the only way to have it is if anyone with the skill for it can remove the flute from that track. I tried ripping the movie 5.1ch track but in both places where they use it, the SFX are too intrusive.
SILVA SCREEN RECORDS PRESENTS MUSIC FROM THE TRANSFORMERS TRILOGY
A stirring collection of Steve Jablonsky’s epic themes from one of the most successful recent franchises
Steve Jablonsky’s long association with Transformers director Michael Bay began in the 1990s, creating additional music for Armageddon, Pearl Harbor and Bad Boys II, and forming a close link with prolific composer Hans Zimmer. His career spans film, TV and video games and includes the remakes of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Amityville Horror and Friday The 13th.
Performed by the London Music Works.
Tracklisting: 1. Transformers - Autobots 2. Transformers - The All Spark 3. Transformers - Optimus 4. Transformers - Bumblebee 5. Transformers - Arrival To Earth 6. Transformers - Optimus Vs. Megatron 7. Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen - Nest 8. Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen - Infinite White 9. Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen - Tomb Of The Primes 10. Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen - Forest Battle 11. Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen - Matrix Of Leadership 12. Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen - Prime/I Rise, You Fall 13. Transformers: Dark Of The Moon: Dark Side Of The Moon 14. Transformers: Dark Of The Moon - Sentinel Prime 15. Transformers: Dark Of The Moon - It’s Our Fight 16. Transformers: Dark Of The Moon - Our Final Hope
* The digital release comes with an exclusive 17th digital only track and a downloadable booklet:
17. Transformers: Dark Of The Moon - Prelude (Trailer Music)
------------------------------------------------------------ CD: SILCD1365 US Release Date: October 11, 2011
Digital Album: SILED1365 US Release date: August 16, 2011
Mr. Fate
2011-10-05 14:05:14
Is this a thing? I mean does anyone really have this? It says the digital album's release date was close to two months ago, yet I've never seen any news, announcements, or download links for it.
It's not like it's music that I really need now that I know about it; I'm just wondering.
theeaglesfan005
2011-10-05 15:27:41
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Macdawson
2011-10-15 16:12:14
@ Mr. Fate
It's real. But if you're expecting any new material, don't. These are basically "covers" from material that has already been released. They are very nice but nothing new. And the originals are better. :)
For Transformers, it's easy, there are 3 different sources :
The OST,
The 52 tracks "promo" which "came out" BEFORE the OST (which was also splitted in some very short "promo" also listed here)
The isolated DVD score by WarmButterDesign (for the Theme Suites).
Basically, the 72 tracks one is a mix of all three sources, done by a friend (the one who leaked the Theme Suites actually). So we can consider it "legit" yeah...
There are also stuff I consider being fakes with the "Qatar (Alt)" stuff or "Road Reunion" just a speed up version of Scorponok...
Maybe yeah I should add here some "ultimate expanded version" here...
As for who did what, apart from Scorponok being Jablonsky / Morris, and that Lorne has done a LOT in that score, I don't know much, it's quite undocumented (while TF2 is really detailed)...
HZLeaks
2011-05-06 03:15:35
What is this isolated DVD score??
Dakota
2011-05-11 03:48:57
Hybrid,
So then would you consider the 72-track: "expanded", "complete", or "recording sessions"? And how come you find the alternate tracks to be fakes? Sure, Road Reunion may sound like a sped-up version of Scorponok, but is it really? There are dozens of soundtracks out there that have sped-up and slowed-down versions of different cues. Just wondering...
Takehiro
2011-06-30 08:28:47
I second that, where is Qatar from, why is it fake?
Macdawson
2011-10-15 16:08:01
@ Hybrid Soldier
Can you share some of that info about TF2? :) As for the 72 track version being a mix of the other 3, isn't there material in it that doesn't show anywhere else? Sure, it's demos and alt versions but a couple of them aren't in the WBD DVD.
As for the question of wether or not "Road Reunion" is a sped up version of Scorponok, i stick with the side that says it is, just because you can make that track by speeding up Scorponok. The definitive answer can only come from either Jablonsky or people involved in the movies production. The same can be said for wether or not the cue we hear when the Autobots are racing down the freeway, just before Sam spots Barricade, is a sped up version of Optimus Sword.
As for Qatar, the one released in the "All Spark Edition", i believe, is from Jablonsky, from the score from "Live from Baghdad" and, at least to my ears, is not what is eard in the movie wich, to me, always sounded a bit like The Transformers Theme. And it's so small i neglect it.
Why did the price from this score went from 16,99 yesterday to 7,99 today on iTunes? Same applies to RotF, went from 11,99 to 7,99... Funny if someone bought one of the two yesterday :P But this shows: 'something' is coming!
zach
2011-06-28 17:45:10
exactly... they always do that dont they when a new release from an artist comes out. :)
Adrian
2011-06-28 17:56:31
Indeed, that's what I'm saying :D
Dakota
2011-06-29 09:07:43
Up until the other day, I cannot believe this score is STILL $16.99 after nearly 4 years. That's ridiculously expensive.
Anonymous
2011-06-29 16:26:08
You can get a 90min pressed bootleg for less than the price of this in places!
Has anyone noticed how the very beginning of Disc Wars from TRON: Legacy sounds like that cue in Transformers? You can hear it when Sam asks the cop "are you on drugs?" and then it cuts to Lennox and Epps in Qatar. I do know that Hans did add a little touch to Legacy, so maybe that's why. But what I'm talking about from Transformers isn't on any of the releases (promo, expanded, complete), it's only in the film.
I have the complete score, the expanded score, the original score, the arrenged records, the real complete score (with 72 track) and I have to say there is still unreleased music from the first movie. for example the air force one scene. in that scene you can hear the whole decepticons theme but you can't find it anywhere. I'm searching it since 2007 July...
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