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Its Imagine the Fire insertThe Japanese version can be ordered here: http: //www.cdjapan.co.jp/ product/WPCR-18185<br><br>The "Swan Song" is also included on the CD. So it has 3 additional tracks.Theres quite a bit of good unreleased stuff from this score. Stuff like the cue that plays during Alita's first game of motorball with the other kids, the bar fight music, the unused string rendition of Alita's theme and the end titles arrangement of Motorball/Swan Song.Does anyone have the "Motorball" cue from end credits? It sounds like the beginning of the "Motorball" track but it's different than on the OST. It plays directly after the Swan Song track...<br><br>Why is it left off the CD?Huh... Do people at RCP ask H-Z.com to use the official, less accurate credits in some cases? I seem to recall some credit fiasco on POTC4.
So what happened to the credits here? It used to be a mixture of solo Atli cues with Atli/Dave Fleming, and now all three guys are credited for every track even though Tillman is only listed as a musician? Is this like with Armageddon, where the "official" credits aren't as accurate as the older ones were? :pMost of the album is comprised of suites, with one consistent tempo per track. <br><br>The material that was scored to picture was scored using the risset rhythm technique, which gave a lot of those tracks their "infinitely getting faster" feeling in the film, so the tempo is always climbing in the film versions. The suites have a stable tempo (except for a couple normal tempo changes, which are different)Not really any... "Nothing Out There" contains the sad piano theme from Begins and Dark Knight, but otherwise the themes that get reprised are pretty much Hans stuff. <br><br>Speaking of credits, any chance the complete score page could be updated with what's out there and official?Could somebody tell me in what cues JNH's themes appear on album?Yeah, that cue was either a last minute rewrite or one of the music editors did it.... As for where you can find it...Google is your friend. But it's not going to be available anywhere officially.
I think it will be in between NOT ORDINARY CITIZEN / THE SLOW KNIFE and IMAGINE THE FIRE, Does anybody know where can I find it?<br>I noticed that this score doesn't has the soundtrack of the part where Blake is taking the people to the bridge and he is discusing with the other police officer before he blows the bridgeThat's right, I forgot about that... And I totally agree about the score vs. the album. I had no use for this score on album at first, but now that I've watched the movie a few times, I can really hear the logic behind the score and I "get it." <br><br>I still don't get the music as heard on album, though. Are the longer pieces some early suites Hans wrote? Or did he specifically make these arrangements for the album? Do you know the answer to that one, Hybrid?I wanna say I heard the full Cat Suite somewhere... I can't remember if it was legit, but it was 15:39 and it was indeed quite repetitive. It was basically the Selina Kyle Suite from the Z+ app, along with demos of several of the Catwoman-related cues in the final score. If you've listened through the score, you've basically heard the unreleased stuff.@Mike<br>Zimmer has said in interviews that he “mapped out” the film with one long piece of music to establish the changing tempo of the story, and apparently the script was written to capture the rhythmic feel of the film. So from the very beginning the story was always split up between the three.<br><br>I think a big part of the initial disappointment with the score was the album presentation, which gives off the impression that the music is just some sound design that Zimmer threw together (this is how I personally felt when I first gave it a listen). In actuality it’s a technically impressive score, I really can’t think of any other film score that is so synchronized with a film’s tempo and flows as one long piece of music. Apparently it was a nightmare for Hans, especially when the smallest edits to the film would ruin the flow.<br><br>Doing the 59-minute album was a pretty big disservice to the whole purpose of the music. If you remove one piece the whole thing falls apart, which is part of the reason the album feels so disjointed.
Anyone here listened "The Predator" FYC score? <br>Any chance to compare tracklist and running time with official release?These versions suites haven't been officially released, but maybe you can find them somewhere around the Internet unofficially.<br><br>As for the Cat Suite, the most important parts of it can be found in "Selina Kyle" (it's a shortened version of it actually) and "Mind if I cut in?" from the OST. I remember that Hybrid once said that the 15mins Cat Suite was too repetitive, that's why a 5min only version was released, so maybe you are just fine with those two.<br>Where can I listen to the Cat Suite? Or is it literally: Selina Kyle Theme? <br>The Mole P1 (0-1:57)<br>Regimental Brothers P1 (0-1:19)<br>The Mole P2 (1:57-3:44)<br>Regimental Brothers P3 (2:44 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier<br>Supermarine P1 (0-2:47)<br>The Mole P3 (3:45 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back (again) <br>Supermarine P2 (*5:33)<br>Impulse<br>The Tide<br>Home <br>The Oil <br>Variation 15<br>End Credits <br><br>As everyone said already, the album is made up of suites that combine several cues and several "sounds" used in various places. For example, the is a sound in The Mole (At 2:05) that sounds like a fuse being ignited. This sound is actually right after The Tide in the film.<br>The only tracks that are almost identical to the film are: The Tide, Variation 15 and End Credits, the rest is different. <br><br>So if you were to order the tracks as first heard in the film it would be: <br>The Mole <br>Regimental Brothers <br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier <br>Supermarine <br>Impluse <br>The Tide <br>Home <br>The Oil<br>Variation 15<br>End credits<br><br>As much as I enjoyed listening to this release, I wish they didn't butcher the score the way they did. I like the suites but there are so many great cues in this film that weren't released. If only they released an isolated score track on Blu-ray. Listening to film extracts is just not enough.I noticed that as well — the ticking goes all through the movie, except for the boat scenes, and only stops when they get on the train. <br><br>I wonder...could the film have originally been shot so that the beach, sea, and air sequences were there own arcs, and the longer album tracks were written for that? And then Nolan went in and turned the movie into the frenetic, constantly cutting-back-and-forth final product? <br><br>While the album is fine, I personally don't understand why we couldn't have just gotten the film cues. They might have had to stitch several together for each track, but it could have worked.
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Pirates Of The Caribbean: Soundtrack Treasures Collection
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Disc 1 : Pirates Of The Caribbean soundtrack
Disc 2 : Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest soundtrack
Disc 3 : Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End soundtrack
Disc 4 : Brand new remixes
Disc 5 : DVD of behind the scenes, making of the music and interviews with composer Hans Zimmer
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LCB reply Replies: 2 || 2014-08-16 22:53:52
"Lord Culter Beckett" is by Zimmer and Balfe as "Just Good Businnes"?


LCB2014-08-19 13:46:01
And "Pirate Lord of Singapore"?


Mike2014-08-19 16:42:15
I always assumed those two were just Zimmer, but we don't know.

Jimmy reply Replies: 6 || 2013-07-26 22:43:00
Which of the following would Just Good Business fall under?

--Hans and Lorne working together
--Lorne based off Hans' other Beckett suite
--Just Lorne


Anonymous2013-07-27 02:38:35
I believe the second one (Lorne basing it off Hans' work). In one of the videos on disc 5, Lorne says something like, "I hear Hans in there going DA DA DA DA DA so I figure I need to go DA DA DA DA DA also" (in other words, he needs to imitate the overall style).


MacArthur2013-09-02 06:32:34
What is this of course Zimmer wrote it


Mike2013-09-02 14:36:27
No, it's on Lorne's website. With the exception of "Opening Titles" from MW2 and "Maestro" from The Holiday, everything on Lorne's site is by Lorne Balfe.


Mike2013-09-02 14:37:11
And who knows, perhaps Maestro is by Lorne Balfe, but I'd be surprised...


MacArthur2013-09-02 19:40:08
Wait are you talking the Pirates theme. (He's a Pirate) of course Zimmer wrote that cause when it was wrote Lorne wasn't even involved in RCP.


Mike2013-09-03 00:25:09
The original question was referring to the "Just Good Business" suite from At World's End.

Anonymous reply Replies: 3 || 2013-07-20 05:27:00
Did Klaus actually write any of the themes in the first movie or did he just arrange Hans' music?


NM2013-07-20 16:44:58
Klaus has the entire soundtrack on his Soundcloud. Also, extract from an interview by Klaus about the 1st Pirates film:

"Composers always get help, because there is just so much music that has to be written. Hey, I compose the themes and I orchestrate them. But it’s not just about themes. I define the sound, or palette, for Pirates , which also relies heavily on synthesizers and percussion. We did specific sampling for percussion too. So, I define how the music sounds and thus how the movie sounds. And after that is done, then I run into all the different rooms."

"I have tons of orchestrators! And tons of helpers. I was basically running through eight rooms in the studio. I would play a theme on the piano or straight into the computer, give instructions as to how the cue should sound, but then, don’t take me too seriously because… what do I know! And then run to the next room, next cue. And then off to the next room and see what was written in there. So I was like the manager on this score."

Makes it sound like he wrote a lot of the material.

There kind of seems to be an unfair revision of history where some people think Zimmer did everything and Badelt did very little.


Hybrid Soldier2013-07-20 19:23:34
You don't know the story NM, and I got it confirmed not only by Hans but others who worked on it...

And, yes, nonetheless Klaus wrote some stuff, and I've already told what on I don't remember what POTC page... :D


NM2013-07-20 20:30:15
Well I only can go by what I've read in interviews, and on this site really. I don't claim to know much about it. There's so much information out there that all just contradicts each other, so I just enjoy the music.

I'd love if you filled me in a bit.

billy reply Replies: 3 || 2013-05-26 21:36:03
The "Just Good Buisness" track is an unused film cue or a theme suite too?


Anonymus2013-05-26 23:04:33
It' s a theme suite (have a look on the expanded score tracklist).


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-27 13:04:51
I also heard somewhere that it's an unused cue for the first part of the Maelstrom battle.


Mike2013-05-28 09:13:12
If I'm not mistaken, it's an alternate/shortened version of Beckett's so called "Demo Theme" found on Lorne Balfe's site.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-04-30 09:19:29
"Lord Cutler Beckett" is the perfect mix of elegant and ruthless. Bravo Hans.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2013-01-15 03:36:02
Finally got my hands on this thing, for about 30 bucks. Considering that it's not available on Amazon for under $85, that isn't bad.

DamnRight reply Replies: 5 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
@Matthew
"Am I the only one in this world that thinks movie soundtracks should be released WITH EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF MUSIC HEARD IN THE MOVIES ON THEM?

The first Pirates CD was pretty good, but Dead Man's Chest and At World's End have most of the music missing! I was TOTALLY AND UTTERLY DISAPPOINTED with both of them.

Why can't they just release the soundtracks with the COMPLETE SCORE on? Anyone agree? "

I second


Mike2012-11-30 19:44:39
Third. I'd pay as much as they want if they'd release the stuff.


Master of Fate2012-12-01 01:57:39
Haha, no. No, you wouldn't. Good joke. Just like everyone else, you would sit around waiting for one single person to buy them all and then pirate the hell out of everything.


Mike2012-12-01 03:43:59
Okay...? Did you see me ask if I could use that picture on the At World's End Expanded Score? I only get stuff I know I'm allowed to have.


Mike2012-12-01 03:47:45
Obviously, in this case I wouldn't be allowed to have it unless I bought it. There's no need for you to be rude.


Master of Fate2012-12-01 05:05:33
Oh. You're THAT guy. sorry

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
Why ?

Because to Disney's eyes the word "music" means "costs" instead of "opportunity".


And I strongly disagree with POTC 1's OST... So many great cues missing or edited... ;)


Agnt007dman2011-08-02 06:28:19
Disney absolutely has more than enough money for costs to release a full score!

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-06 00:00:00
Oh come on Hybrid, I'm sure you have POTC1 complete score ! Hehe

fan reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-06 00:00:00
best~~~~~~~~~~~

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
@ Matthew & DamnRight

I THIRD!!!!!

Chalsea reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-28 00:00:00
Dead Man's Chest and At World's End have most of the music missing! I was disappointed about this.

Brad reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-12 00:00:00
Hybrid, another tracklisting question. Do you think you could detail who composed what on the 4th CD of this collection? Meaning, all of the extra suites from the films. I'd love to know who composed "Marry Me" and "The Heart of Davy Jones." Also, I have in mp3 format, the audio from each film's end titles suite. Could you tell me who composed what on each end title? Thanks a million! Appreciate all you do on here too!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-12 00:00:00
The Theme Suites are all HZ... ;)

emirhan reply Replies: 0 || 2009-07-20 00:00:00
asd

farouk reply Replies: 0 || 2009-05-23 00:00:00
really i love Hans zemmer because he create a very very good soundtrack specially music of pirates of carrebben and batman

Anurag tiwary reply Replies: 0 || 2009-05-03 00:00:00
I had never been though the feeling before listening this feeling. great music really great.

nanana}¿ reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-07 00:00:00
no entiendo una verga tio esta mas de la chingada ha ha la puta cuca

Rick reply Replies: 0 || 2009-02-23 00:00:00
For those who wonder should you get this set. Are the extra Disc 4 and 5 worth it.
Yes! Especially disc 4, all the suites are a great listen and is a treat to your ear. You can listen to all of them without skipping. (you may want to stop when the remix starts thou)
The beautiful theme of POTC 3 is finally given a full complete treatment of wondorous 9 mins. Dont like Pirate lord of Singapore in POTC original album? listen to the Pirate lord of Singapore suite and your opinion will change.
I am a true Hans Zimmer fan with over 50 discs in collection. I must admit thou I am not a fan of FULL and COMPLETE soundtrack because I listen to those tracks that are beautiful and skip those that are not.
I fully support suite as it developed those little sweet tunes that often I find ended too soon on usual movie score into one grand finale. Great work.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2008-11-01 00:00:00
hoist the colours high!! hans you doing a magnificent job here.....you can do a 4th movie and hoist the colours even higher. CMON!

Pedal reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-06 00:00:00
Yes, these are great. Great music. Actually, what's wrong with them, really? Well yeah I kind of wonder why they have to put all 3 soundtracks in and we have to buy it just to get the 4th disc. Well I mean the bonus and the one on Hans ZImmer. The thing is, they don't sell it in my country D: At least there's no sign of it anywhere. So I just listen to it on Youtube(:
And I thought the remixes are okay. I know some are a bit funny but then, you see them as UNIQUE(: yay. Pirate music is beautiful. Hans Zimmer is amazing.

Steven reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-05 00:00:00
Beckett theme rules as for the Lord of Singapore and Hoist the Colours actually they all are great

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-16 00:00:00
I beg to differ. Pirate Lord of Singapore, although not recorded the way we hear it in the film, still has some nice motifs that didn't make it to the CD. Marry Me too has the Hearts Stabbed theme and Cutler Beckett has that dude's theme which was never really given that much playtime on the soundtrack album. It's a superb CD with awesome concert suites.

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-16 00:00:00
The suites are just arrangements of various unused material, demos or possibly alternates. They don't have any real unreleased music from any of the movies as such.

just007 reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-18 00:00:00
great treasure collection, i love it, also seeing Hans Zimmer live playing his score...

Peter Bezemer reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-18 00:00:00
I have it right here :-D

The live performance on the premiere is cool!!!

ADAM reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-04 00:00:00
It Is really great, i love it, i wish that they would release more too, but what can we do, i love what i got

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-03 00:00:00
Ok, I feel the need to say this is an absolutely ridiculous release. I bought the Japanese special edition of the first two scores (which already has a bonus DVD) and the regular for the third. Now I'd most definately buy the additional and unreleased score CD (some nice stuff on there I must say) from this crazy box set if it were available separately. Am I gonna buy all three scores again just to get the 4th CD? No way. Another thing... who on Earth decided to put all of those horrible remixes on there again? I mean does someone actually enjoy film score being remixed into trance? That's just sick. I think Disney should either release the complete scores for the trilogy or stop messing around with people.

Matthew reply Replies: 0 || 2007-12-30 00:00:00
Am I the only one in this world that thinks movie soundtracks should be released WITH EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF MUSIC HEARD IN THE MOVIES ON THEM?

The first Pirates CD was pretty good, but Dead Man's Chest and At World's End have most of the music missing! I was TOTALLY AND UTTERLY DISAPPOINTED with both of them.

Why can't they just release the soundtracks with the COMPLETE SCORE on? Anyone agree?

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