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So Hybrid, care to tell us why you randomly deleted comments talking about the leaked recording sessions?Yes! That piano part is amazing! <br>„when charles and jean stand in front of the school“Saw the movie. Great score and it really fits the movie.<br><br>Missing stuff:<br>- 25 seconds of a piano version of Gap without the brass and bells<br>- a 30 second badass version of the main theme during the mageneto/jean helicopter stand off<br>- 1.5 minute end credits suite. Typical Zimmer to leave the best and most epic track and best main theme version off the album. I hope it will be on CD2, but knowing Zimmer the best tracks always remain unreleased. This is another escape from ship...after listening and listening...this score is truly amazing! i love it so much! i want the suites and ideas NOW! :DWhere can I find this?
been listening to this score for a week now and i am going to wait a little more before putting a comment on it here... but there's something else i have been saying for a while now. let's stop associating scores with movies and start seeing them as a work of art in their own rights. (albeit inspired by movies)<br><br>people are here complaining about the movie that it didn't speak to them. and then i have the feeling that they project their disappointment on the soundtrack. but both pieces of art co-exist and not depend on each other. i, for example, seldom watch any of these movies. but i have listened to their soundtracks and love them.<br><br>also i never asked for an extended CD before... but we need one for this one. it's very clear that tracks like gap and coda were definitely shortened.<br><br>also i never asked for an extended CD before but we need one for DP. it's clear that tracks like gap and coda were definitely shortened.There's nothing unique about those choirs, standard East European chorus stuff mixed with Johansson. Check out Debbie Wiseman's Warriors from 2000 and you'll get a much more elaborate version of this music.I cant say that this chorus reminds me of anything I have heard Zimmer done before. And I have played all his scores to death.I agree that Gap is the best track. My main complain with this score is that it feels that Zimmer composed it on autopilot. For me those choirs sounded too much to Electro's Theme in TASM. Is too standard and has very few remarkable moments. The movie itself lacks of personality and the score is part of that problem. I think they just wanted "dark" and hired Zimmer for making his dark ostitatos.I thought I read somewhere Armageddon was the last bay film that hgw was a part of<br>===============================<br><br><br>Well, Bay and HGW were not exactly best friends during Armageddon. Bay is very demanding and tough. HGW is also not a shy dude. He is an opinionated guy who stands his ground, as you can tell by his interviews. He reminds me of Mancina…..He's not afraid to speak up and have his opinion heard. And just like Mancina, his relationship with the Bay/Bruckheimer family seemed to be...….a bit complicated. Yet, he worked on Bad Boys 2 and Deja Vu. Now, it is possible - tho not likely - that Bay didn't even know that HGW did some work on BB2. Maybe it was just a favor for Steve and Trevor. Under the table, so to speak..... Personally, I don't believe that's the case. Whatever the truth, this is a great example of how different those composers are. Trevor and Steve work great with Bay/Bruckheimer and they always deliver great results. While composers like HGW and Mancina have problems with more demanding filmmakers. And apparently they don't even like action cinema. I don't necessary blame them, even though Mancina certainly didn't do himself any favors by trashing the genre and the people who back in the 90's gave him a shot to prove himself as a composer.
Love John Powell. But he is not even close to Williams. Williams made his mark on every genre of film scoring. He freaking turn a holocaust movie score into a masterpiece for the ages.<br><br>Today, that score would have been some generic sound design.<br><br>Powell is an incredibly gifted orchestral composer. But he doesn't have the dimensions of someone like Williams. <br><br>You fools, the tracklist was but a scam. The tracks simply wanted to EAT you.Yeah, while this does have a great deal more substance than most of the work Hans has done the past few years, I struggle to say it's a genuinely *good* score.<br><br>I mean, within the first minute I'm reminded of Dunkirk, then we get a pretty standard Zimmer/Balfe buildup we've heard a million times since Inception... and it doesn't get hugely better from there.<br><br>I will definitely give Zimmer credit for the unique and genuinely creative use of female choir in some of the cues, though.Not to disagree for its own sake, but I think Powell has been up there with the greatest film composers since the first HTTYD score. I just wish he'd take on more projects.Yeah, Jesus. This is a prime example of why I'm tempted to think John Powell is more talented than even Williams (yes, I went there).
There's so, so many great themes in the HTTYD scores. And he almost never lets a moment go by where he isn't stating or restating or developing one or more of them (although honestly that's true of a ton of Powell's scores and not an exclusive feature of HTTYD). You can never get bored listening to these, there's always something interesting around the next corner.I got confirmation HGW only wrote Haitian House Shootout (with the help of Mel Wesson). The same ideas were edited into the shorter cue Zoepound, so I'd say you can add this one to his credits.<br><br>Credits on IMDB mentions Paul Linford on the Main Titles.<br><br>Trevor Morris helped Jablonsky on the Ferrari Causeway Chase.<br>Jablonsky worked, for sure, on the Hallway and Helicopter Inserts.<br><br>100% sure Rabin worked on Tapia, Tapia Pissed Off, The Stuff, Wiretap Results, Ocean, Dead Bodies #2, Heart to Heart, Breaking Into Mortuary, Syd's Cover Is Blown, Tapia Has Syd (without Inserts), Prep for Tapia Sneak, Cuba Chase, Guantanamo (those tracks are on the Rabin only-bootleg).Hoping for the Rocketman score to get a release. Loved the score in the movie. Any updates on this ?Additionally, for anyone interested, I've managed to come up with a final list of themes from the series that I believe to be mostly accurate.<br><br>HTTYD 1: Hiccup & Toothless, The Friendship ostinato, Viking Theme, Viking "B" Theme, Dragons, Berk, The Dragon Tamer (Hiccup's unique qualities), Vikings & Dragons, Astrid<br><br>HTTYD 2: Loss, Exploration/Hiccup's Maturance, Drago, Hiccup & Valka, The Alpha, Stoick & Valka, The Chief<br><br>HTTYD 3: The Furies ostinato, Love, The Dragon Liberators, Moving On, The Hidden World, Toothless & The Light Fury, Grimmel, Dragon Trappers<br><br>A list more impressive than Star Wars, and with almost every new theme returning for the next film, while keeping most of the base themes. A masterful achievement by John Powell and his crew, as others have said!Just finished watching the movie, and while it's not much more than fine, it's sure as hell better than every other Star Wars movie that's come out since The Force Awakens (minus the ugly fucking visuals). <br><br>However the score is absolutely amazing. Powell's adaptation and development of the new Han Solo theme from Williams is flawless, the callbacks to other themes from the series are mostly appropriate (and good on him for not using the Force theme once!) and Powell's original material is fresh and exciting in a way that even Williams himself hasn't been able to pull off with the new films. <br><br>Powell might very well be up there with the greatest film composers if he continues to produce work like this from now on (which from HTTYD 3 seems very possible!)
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Pirates Of The Caribbean: Soundtrack Treasures Collection
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Disc 1 : Pirates Of The Caribbean soundtrack
Disc 2 : Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest soundtrack
Disc 3 : Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End soundtrack
Disc 4 : Brand new remixes
Disc 5 : DVD of behind the scenes, making of the music and interviews with composer Hans Zimmer
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LCB reply Replies: 2 || 2014-08-16 22:53:52
"Lord Culter Beckett" is by Zimmer and Balfe as "Just Good Businnes"?


LCB2014-08-19 13:46:01
And "Pirate Lord of Singapore"?


Mike2014-08-19 16:42:15
I always assumed those two were just Zimmer, but we don't know.

Jimmy reply Replies: 6 || 2013-07-26 22:43:00
Which of the following would Just Good Business fall under?

--Hans and Lorne working together
--Lorne based off Hans' other Beckett suite
--Just Lorne


Anonymous2013-07-27 02:38:35
I believe the second one (Lorne basing it off Hans' work). In one of the videos on disc 5, Lorne says something like, "I hear Hans in there going DA DA DA DA DA so I figure I need to go DA DA DA DA DA also" (in other words, he needs to imitate the overall style).


MacArthur2013-09-02 06:32:34
What is this of course Zimmer wrote it


Mike2013-09-02 14:36:27
No, it's on Lorne's website. With the exception of "Opening Titles" from MW2 and "Maestro" from The Holiday, everything on Lorne's site is by Lorne Balfe.


Mike2013-09-02 14:37:11
And who knows, perhaps Maestro is by Lorne Balfe, but I'd be surprised...


MacArthur2013-09-02 19:40:08
Wait are you talking the Pirates theme. (He's a Pirate) of course Zimmer wrote that cause when it was wrote Lorne wasn't even involved in RCP.


Mike2013-09-03 00:25:09
The original question was referring to the "Just Good Business" suite from At World's End.

Anonymous reply Replies: 3 || 2013-07-20 05:27:00
Did Klaus actually write any of the themes in the first movie or did he just arrange Hans' music?


NM2013-07-20 16:44:58
Klaus has the entire soundtrack on his Soundcloud. Also, extract from an interview by Klaus about the 1st Pirates film:

"Composers always get help, because there is just so much music that has to be written. Hey, I compose the themes and I orchestrate them. But it’s not just about themes. I define the sound, or palette, for Pirates , which also relies heavily on synthesizers and percussion. We did specific sampling for percussion too. So, I define how the music sounds and thus how the movie sounds. And after that is done, then I run into all the different rooms."

"I have tons of orchestrators! And tons of helpers. I was basically running through eight rooms in the studio. I would play a theme on the piano or straight into the computer, give instructions as to how the cue should sound, but then, don’t take me too seriously because… what do I know! And then run to the next room, next cue. And then off to the next room and see what was written in there. So I was like the manager on this score."

Makes it sound like he wrote a lot of the material.

There kind of seems to be an unfair revision of history where some people think Zimmer did everything and Badelt did very little.


Hybrid Soldier2013-07-20 19:23:34
You don't know the story NM, and I got it confirmed not only by Hans but others who worked on it...

And, yes, nonetheless Klaus wrote some stuff, and I've already told what on I don't remember what POTC page... :D


NM2013-07-20 20:30:15
Well I only can go by what I've read in interviews, and on this site really. I don't claim to know much about it. There's so much information out there that all just contradicts each other, so I just enjoy the music.

I'd love if you filled me in a bit.

billy reply Replies: 3 || 2013-05-26 21:36:03
The "Just Good Buisness" track is an unused film cue or a theme suite too?


Anonymus2013-05-26 23:04:33
It' s a theme suite (have a look on the expanded score tracklist).


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-27 13:04:51
I also heard somewhere that it's an unused cue for the first part of the Maelstrom battle.


Mike2013-05-28 09:13:12
If I'm not mistaken, it's an alternate/shortened version of Beckett's so called "Demo Theme" found on Lorne Balfe's site.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-04-30 09:19:29
"Lord Cutler Beckett" is the perfect mix of elegant and ruthless. Bravo Hans.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2013-01-15 03:36:02
Finally got my hands on this thing, for about 30 bucks. Considering that it's not available on Amazon for under $85, that isn't bad.

DamnRight reply Replies: 5 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
@Matthew
"Am I the only one in this world that thinks movie soundtracks should be released WITH EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF MUSIC HEARD IN THE MOVIES ON THEM?

The first Pirates CD was pretty good, but Dead Man's Chest and At World's End have most of the music missing! I was TOTALLY AND UTTERLY DISAPPOINTED with both of them.

Why can't they just release the soundtracks with the COMPLETE SCORE on? Anyone agree? "

I second


Mike2012-11-30 19:44:39
Third. I'd pay as much as they want if they'd release the stuff.


Master of Fate2012-12-01 01:57:39
Haha, no. No, you wouldn't. Good joke. Just like everyone else, you would sit around waiting for one single person to buy them all and then pirate the hell out of everything.


Mike2012-12-01 03:43:59
Okay...? Did you see me ask if I could use that picture on the At World's End Expanded Score? I only get stuff I know I'm allowed to have.


Mike2012-12-01 03:47:45
Obviously, in this case I wouldn't be allowed to have it unless I bought it. There's no need for you to be rude.


Master of Fate2012-12-01 05:05:33
Oh. You're THAT guy. sorry

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
Why ?

Because to Disney's eyes the word "music" means "costs" instead of "opportunity".


And I strongly disagree with POTC 1's OST... So many great cues missing or edited... ;)


Agnt007dman2011-08-02 06:28:19
Disney absolutely has more than enough money for costs to release a full score!

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-06 00:00:00
Oh come on Hybrid, I'm sure you have POTC1 complete score ! Hehe

fan reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-06 00:00:00
best~~~~~~~~~~~

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
@ Matthew & DamnRight

I THIRD!!!!!

Chalsea reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-28 00:00:00
Dead Man's Chest and At World's End have most of the music missing! I was disappointed about this.

Brad reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-12 00:00:00
Hybrid, another tracklisting question. Do you think you could detail who composed what on the 4th CD of this collection? Meaning, all of the extra suites from the films. I'd love to know who composed "Marry Me" and "The Heart of Davy Jones." Also, I have in mp3 format, the audio from each film's end titles suite. Could you tell me who composed what on each end title? Thanks a million! Appreciate all you do on here too!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-12 00:00:00
The Theme Suites are all HZ... ;)

emirhan reply Replies: 0 || 2009-07-20 00:00:00
asd

farouk reply Replies: 0 || 2009-05-23 00:00:00
really i love Hans zemmer because he create a very very good soundtrack specially music of pirates of carrebben and batman

Anurag tiwary reply Replies: 0 || 2009-05-03 00:00:00
I had never been though the feeling before listening this feeling. great music really great.

nanana}¿ reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-07 00:00:00
no entiendo una verga tio esta mas de la chingada ha ha la puta cuca

Rick reply Replies: 0 || 2009-02-23 00:00:00
For those who wonder should you get this set. Are the extra Disc 4 and 5 worth it.
Yes! Especially disc 4, all the suites are a great listen and is a treat to your ear. You can listen to all of them without skipping. (you may want to stop when the remix starts thou)
The beautiful theme of POTC 3 is finally given a full complete treatment of wondorous 9 mins. Dont like Pirate lord of Singapore in POTC original album? listen to the Pirate lord of Singapore suite and your opinion will change.
I am a true Hans Zimmer fan with over 50 discs in collection. I must admit thou I am not a fan of FULL and COMPLETE soundtrack because I listen to those tracks that are beautiful and skip those that are not.
I fully support suite as it developed those little sweet tunes that often I find ended too soon on usual movie score into one grand finale. Great work.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2008-11-01 00:00:00
hoist the colours high!! hans you doing a magnificent job here.....you can do a 4th movie and hoist the colours even higher. CMON!

Pedal reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-06 00:00:00
Yes, these are great. Great music. Actually, what's wrong with them, really? Well yeah I kind of wonder why they have to put all 3 soundtracks in and we have to buy it just to get the 4th disc. Well I mean the bonus and the one on Hans ZImmer. The thing is, they don't sell it in my country D: At least there's no sign of it anywhere. So I just listen to it on Youtube(:
And I thought the remixes are okay. I know some are a bit funny but then, you see them as UNIQUE(: yay. Pirate music is beautiful. Hans Zimmer is amazing.

Steven reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-05 00:00:00
Beckett theme rules as for the Lord of Singapore and Hoist the Colours actually they all are great

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-16 00:00:00
I beg to differ. Pirate Lord of Singapore, although not recorded the way we hear it in the film, still has some nice motifs that didn't make it to the CD. Marry Me too has the Hearts Stabbed theme and Cutler Beckett has that dude's theme which was never really given that much playtime on the soundtrack album. It's a superb CD with awesome concert suites.

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-16 00:00:00
The suites are just arrangements of various unused material, demos or possibly alternates. They don't have any real unreleased music from any of the movies as such.

just007 reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-18 00:00:00
great treasure collection, i love it, also seeing Hans Zimmer live playing his score...

Peter Bezemer reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-18 00:00:00
I have it right here :-D

The live performance on the premiere is cool!!!

ADAM reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-04 00:00:00
It Is really great, i love it, i wish that they would release more too, but what can we do, i love what i got

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-03 00:00:00
Ok, I feel the need to say this is an absolutely ridiculous release. I bought the Japanese special edition of the first two scores (which already has a bonus DVD) and the regular for the third. Now I'd most definately buy the additional and unreleased score CD (some nice stuff on there I must say) from this crazy box set if it were available separately. Am I gonna buy all three scores again just to get the 4th CD? No way. Another thing... who on Earth decided to put all of those horrible remixes on there again? I mean does someone actually enjoy film score being remixed into trance? That's just sick. I think Disney should either release the complete scores for the trilogy or stop messing around with people.

Matthew reply Replies: 0 || 2007-12-30 00:00:00
Am I the only one in this world that thinks movie soundtracks should be released WITH EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF MUSIC HEARD IN THE MOVIES ON THEM?

The first Pirates CD was pretty good, but Dead Man's Chest and At World's End have most of the music missing! I was TOTALLY AND UTTERLY DISAPPOINTED with both of them.

Why can't they just release the soundtracks with the COMPLETE SCORE on? Anyone agree?

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