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Just realized I’ve been calling the movie “Windows” instead of “Widows”. <br>Ugh it’s been a long day -_-Just took a look at the trailer and am really impressed with how the film looks, not what I was expecting at all. I honestly don’t know what approach Zimmer will take either, although if I had to guess probably more sound design-ish.<br><br>And outside of “Injection” and “Bare Island” I find MI2 to be bland and all over the place stylistically. Just my opinion though, I know a lot of people love that score ;-)mpolonest123, have you seen the trailer for Widows? Zimmer created the music for that trailer and I assume it came from the movie. If that is the case, it will sound nothing like TTRL.M:I2 is a blast to listen to. I just have a hard time imagine it to be a MI score. But it is one of the most fun scores from Zimmer.And as far Zimmer scores that I don’t like for the most part, there is a small handful (Madagascar, MI2, etc.)
That’s completely fair, and I honestly couldn’t defend this score and be genuine about it. I think it does help that I love this movie (despite being hard to watch) and have come to associate the music with it so much. Still, I can’t lie that I find portions of it to be incredibly effective, even when the music does become solely ambient. In terms of listenability/originality the best cue is, ironically, the 24-second “Washington” cue.<br><br>I would kill to know what Zimmer personally thinks of this score. I’m sure he had a great working relationship with Steve, hence him working on “Windows”, but I’m sure the temptrack must have been murder on his creativity...This is my least favorite Zimmer score, actually. Or else the one that I feel has the least going for it; I guess it doesn't make me mad like On Stranger Tides, but at the same time it lacks anything even remotely compelling. "Boat Trip to New Orleans" is the only halfway interesting cue and even then I don't really like to listen to it much. The experimental parts aren't interesting experiments (ooh...clapping...wow), and the Journey to the Line stuff is just tired and bland (on top of being super derivative). I get that it works in the movie or whatever but if I had a gun to my head with orders to delete one Hans score from my library and never listen to it again, I'm pretty sure this would be the one I'd go for.Even 5 years later, I’m still not sure how I feel about this score. <br><br>On one hand, the music complements the film extremely well. “Boat Trip to New Orleans” and “Soap” are both incredible in context, and even some of the more ambient cues are pretty effective. Alongside Interstellar probably Hans’ most minimilastic score, something which actually suits him well.<br><br>On the other hand, the Time/Journey to the Line temp is extremely blatant, and it definitely doesn’t help that 60% of the music used in film is basically a variation on that one idea (and some cues are purely sound effects). I still admire the score though, regardless of the familiarity issues.<br><br>With Windows coming out I’m very curious to see what approach will be. Personally, I like seeing Zimmer tackle a project with minimalism. Hopefully McQueen (who is a very talented director) doesn’t box Hans in with another TTRL temp... or any temp for that matter.Are you going to visit Russia?!) We are waiting for very much!)He posted it before this site added the tracklist.
Did you just copied and paste the tracklist above? lmaoThe reprise of "Batman on Fire" from Begins (1:59-2:30 in the Transfiguration suite) is good stuff! I wonder why Hans decided to reuse that particular idea.When are we going to see you in Chicago?Indeed, this score reminds me — in a good way — of The Rock.Track 11, Onwards, here is my most favorite cue from the CoH franchise. It has that old school "power anthem" thing going on about it with full force. I truly wish this style is brought back to life again soon.
Are there any more tour dates planned?Lord of the Rings - Shore<br>Battlestar Galactica - McCreary<br><br>Both are up there as my two favorite collection of works. GOT doesn't even compare to BSG. <br><br>For solo albums, my candidates are:<br><br>Titanic<br>The Lion King<br>Interstellar<br>Memoirs of a Geisha<br>Jurassic Park<br><br><br> <br><br>@superultramega<br>Honestly I feel like most of the issues with AUJ (and the other two hobbit films) were stemming from Peter Jackson editing the hell out of the music after the fact. It could be why they ended up dumping some themes in the following films.<br><br>Still, I don’t understand some of the criticism that the Hobbit trilogy scores received. DoS has some of the best action material imo, and the interpolations of Smaug’s theme(s) throughout the films are personally some of my favorite music from any LoTR project.<br><br>And this might be controversial, but I would put PoTC (the first three at least) on the level of Lord of the Rings in terms of the sheer amount of themes and development they receive. Maybe not quite as complex but they shouldn’t be overlooked.The Lion King and The Last Samurai are good choices, but I'm not as much of a fan as Zimmer's aesthetic or thematic work nearly as much as Howard Shore, or even Jablonskly at times. Game of Thrones I still can't comment on as I've never watched the show, or payed attention to Djawadi in general.<br><br>I would say Shore's heart wasn't in Desolation and Five Armies, but to say that about Unexpected Journey doesn't really feel right to me. Even themes like Gondor Restored and Nazgul's uses have some logic to them. <br><br>Gondor Restored was also used when the Ring is destroyed, meaning it also has a secondary meaning of victory against evil, (yes I know it affected Gondor too, but Gondor it isn't as direct). Which also applies in The Hobbit, as Bilbo saving Thorin was not only important for their relationship but also the future of Middle Earth as Thorin is vital to the battle against the orcs in Five Armies. <br><br>The Nazgul theme also makes sense as its first appearance is in Fellowship's opening, playing over Sauron's army of orcs, then Sauron himself. So it's linked both to Sauron himself and his servants, which includes Azog. Plus the version that plays in the film is the exact same variant (and lyrics) that plays in the Fellowship prologue. It serves almost as a precursor to the Nazgul. Plus I don't see why themes can't have several meanings anyway.  <br><br>Plus I love most of the new themes of AUJ (before they were abandoned in later films).Not really a fair comparison, Hybrid, since videogames as a medium are much younger than films, and their scores weren't using real orchestras right until... mid 90's, would be my guess (feel free to correct me, guys).<br><br>The all time best film score for me would be a battle between The Last Samurai and Lion King. If "movie" includes TV shows, then it's Game of Thrones without a doubt, but I'm not gonna have this argument again ;)<br><br>Btw. I wouldn't mention Hobbit in the same sentence with LotR, even music-wise. A couple of great cues cannot hide the fact that Shore's heart wasn't in it.
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Pirates Of The Caribbean: Soundtrack Treasures Collection
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Disc 1 : Pirates Of The Caribbean soundtrack
Disc 2 : Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest soundtrack
Disc 3 : Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End soundtrack
Disc 4 : Brand new remixes
Disc 5 : DVD of behind the scenes, making of the music and interviews with composer Hans Zimmer
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LCB reply Replies: 2 || 2014-08-16 22:53:52
"Lord Culter Beckett" is by Zimmer and Balfe as "Just Good Businnes"?


LCB2014-08-19 13:46:01
And "Pirate Lord of Singapore"?


Mike2014-08-19 16:42:15
I always assumed those two were just Zimmer, but we don't know.

Jimmy reply Replies: 6 || 2013-07-26 22:43:00
Which of the following would Just Good Business fall under?

--Hans and Lorne working together
--Lorne based off Hans' other Beckett suite
--Just Lorne


Anonymous2013-07-27 02:38:35
I believe the second one (Lorne basing it off Hans' work). In one of the videos on disc 5, Lorne says something like, "I hear Hans in there going DA DA DA DA DA so I figure I need to go DA DA DA DA DA also" (in other words, he needs to imitate the overall style).


MacArthur2013-09-02 06:32:34
What is this of course Zimmer wrote it


Mike2013-09-02 14:36:27
No, it's on Lorne's website. With the exception of "Opening Titles" from MW2 and "Maestro" from The Holiday, everything on Lorne's site is by Lorne Balfe.


Mike2013-09-02 14:37:11
And who knows, perhaps Maestro is by Lorne Balfe, but I'd be surprised...


MacArthur2013-09-02 19:40:08
Wait are you talking the Pirates theme. (He's a Pirate) of course Zimmer wrote that cause when it was wrote Lorne wasn't even involved in RCP.


Mike2013-09-03 00:25:09
The original question was referring to the "Just Good Business" suite from At World's End.

Anonymous reply Replies: 3 || 2013-07-20 05:27:00
Did Klaus actually write any of the themes in the first movie or did he just arrange Hans' music?


NM2013-07-20 16:44:58
Klaus has the entire soundtrack on his Soundcloud. Also, extract from an interview by Klaus about the 1st Pirates film:

"Composers always get help, because there is just so much music that has to be written. Hey, I compose the themes and I orchestrate them. But it’s not just about themes. I define the sound, or palette, for Pirates , which also relies heavily on synthesizers and percussion. We did specific sampling for percussion too. So, I define how the music sounds and thus how the movie sounds. And after that is done, then I run into all the different rooms."

"I have tons of orchestrators! And tons of helpers. I was basically running through eight rooms in the studio. I would play a theme on the piano or straight into the computer, give instructions as to how the cue should sound, but then, don’t take me too seriously because… what do I know! And then run to the next room, next cue. And then off to the next room and see what was written in there. So I was like the manager on this score."

Makes it sound like he wrote a lot of the material.

There kind of seems to be an unfair revision of history where some people think Zimmer did everything and Badelt did very little.


Hybrid Soldier2013-07-20 19:23:34
You don't know the story NM, and I got it confirmed not only by Hans but others who worked on it...

And, yes, nonetheless Klaus wrote some stuff, and I've already told what on I don't remember what POTC page... :D


NM2013-07-20 20:30:15
Well I only can go by what I've read in interviews, and on this site really. I don't claim to know much about it. There's so much information out there that all just contradicts each other, so I just enjoy the music.

I'd love if you filled me in a bit.

billy reply Replies: 3 || 2013-05-26 21:36:03
The "Just Good Buisness" track is an unused film cue or a theme suite too?


Anonymus2013-05-26 23:04:33
It' s a theme suite (have a look on the expanded score tracklist).


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-27 13:04:51
I also heard somewhere that it's an unused cue for the first part of the Maelstrom battle.


Mike2013-05-28 09:13:12
If I'm not mistaken, it's an alternate/shortened version of Beckett's so called "Demo Theme" found on Lorne Balfe's site.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-04-30 09:19:29
"Lord Cutler Beckett" is the perfect mix of elegant and ruthless. Bravo Hans.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2013-01-15 03:36:02
Finally got my hands on this thing, for about 30 bucks. Considering that it's not available on Amazon for under $85, that isn't bad.

DamnRight reply Replies: 5 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
@Matthew
"Am I the only one in this world that thinks movie soundtracks should be released WITH EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF MUSIC HEARD IN THE MOVIES ON THEM?

The first Pirates CD was pretty good, but Dead Man's Chest and At World's End have most of the music missing! I was TOTALLY AND UTTERLY DISAPPOINTED with both of them.

Why can't they just release the soundtracks with the COMPLETE SCORE on? Anyone agree? "

I second


Mike2012-11-30 19:44:39
Third. I'd pay as much as they want if they'd release the stuff.


Master of Fate2012-12-01 01:57:39
Haha, no. No, you wouldn't. Good joke. Just like everyone else, you would sit around waiting for one single person to buy them all and then pirate the hell out of everything.


Mike2012-12-01 03:43:59
Okay...? Did you see me ask if I could use that picture on the At World's End Expanded Score? I only get stuff I know I'm allowed to have.


Mike2012-12-01 03:47:45
Obviously, in this case I wouldn't be allowed to have it unless I bought it. There's no need for you to be rude.


Master of Fate2012-12-01 05:05:33
Oh. You're THAT guy. sorry

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
Why ?

Because to Disney's eyes the word "music" means "costs" instead of "opportunity".


And I strongly disagree with POTC 1's OST... So many great cues missing or edited... ;)


Agnt007dman2011-08-02 06:28:19
Disney absolutely has more than enough money for costs to release a full score!

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-06 00:00:00
Oh come on Hybrid, I'm sure you have POTC1 complete score ! Hehe

fan reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-06 00:00:00
best~~~~~~~~~~~

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
@ Matthew & DamnRight

I THIRD!!!!!

Chalsea reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-28 00:00:00
Dead Man's Chest and At World's End have most of the music missing! I was disappointed about this.

Brad reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-12 00:00:00
Hybrid, another tracklisting question. Do you think you could detail who composed what on the 4th CD of this collection? Meaning, all of the extra suites from the films. I'd love to know who composed "Marry Me" and "The Heart of Davy Jones." Also, I have in mp3 format, the audio from each film's end titles suite. Could you tell me who composed what on each end title? Thanks a million! Appreciate all you do on here too!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-12 00:00:00
The Theme Suites are all HZ... ;)

emirhan reply Replies: 0 || 2009-07-20 00:00:00
asd

farouk reply Replies: 0 || 2009-05-23 00:00:00
really i love Hans zemmer because he create a very very good soundtrack specially music of pirates of carrebben and batman

Anurag tiwary reply Replies: 0 || 2009-05-03 00:00:00
I had never been though the feeling before listening this feeling. great music really great.

nanana}¿ reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-07 00:00:00
no entiendo una verga tio esta mas de la chingada ha ha la puta cuca

Rick reply Replies: 0 || 2009-02-23 00:00:00
For those who wonder should you get this set. Are the extra Disc 4 and 5 worth it.
Yes! Especially disc 4, all the suites are a great listen and is a treat to your ear. You can listen to all of them without skipping. (you may want to stop when the remix starts thou)
The beautiful theme of POTC 3 is finally given a full complete treatment of wondorous 9 mins. Dont like Pirate lord of Singapore in POTC original album? listen to the Pirate lord of Singapore suite and your opinion will change.
I am a true Hans Zimmer fan with over 50 discs in collection. I must admit thou I am not a fan of FULL and COMPLETE soundtrack because I listen to those tracks that are beautiful and skip those that are not.
I fully support suite as it developed those little sweet tunes that often I find ended too soon on usual movie score into one grand finale. Great work.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2008-11-01 00:00:00
hoist the colours high!! hans you doing a magnificent job here.....you can do a 4th movie and hoist the colours even higher. CMON!

Pedal reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-06 00:00:00
Yes, these are great. Great music. Actually, what's wrong with them, really? Well yeah I kind of wonder why they have to put all 3 soundtracks in and we have to buy it just to get the 4th disc. Well I mean the bonus and the one on Hans ZImmer. The thing is, they don't sell it in my country D: At least there's no sign of it anywhere. So I just listen to it on Youtube(:
And I thought the remixes are okay. I know some are a bit funny but then, you see them as UNIQUE(: yay. Pirate music is beautiful. Hans Zimmer is amazing.

Steven reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-05 00:00:00
Beckett theme rules as for the Lord of Singapore and Hoist the Colours actually they all are great

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-16 00:00:00
I beg to differ. Pirate Lord of Singapore, although not recorded the way we hear it in the film, still has some nice motifs that didn't make it to the CD. Marry Me too has the Hearts Stabbed theme and Cutler Beckett has that dude's theme which was never really given that much playtime on the soundtrack album. It's a superb CD with awesome concert suites.

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-16 00:00:00
The suites are just arrangements of various unused material, demos or possibly alternates. They don't have any real unreleased music from any of the movies as such.

just007 reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-18 00:00:00
great treasure collection, i love it, also seeing Hans Zimmer live playing his score...

Peter Bezemer reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-18 00:00:00
I have it right here :-D

The live performance on the premiere is cool!!!

ADAM reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-04 00:00:00
It Is really great, i love it, i wish that they would release more too, but what can we do, i love what i got

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-03 00:00:00
Ok, I feel the need to say this is an absolutely ridiculous release. I bought the Japanese special edition of the first two scores (which already has a bonus DVD) and the regular for the third. Now I'd most definately buy the additional and unreleased score CD (some nice stuff on there I must say) from this crazy box set if it were available separately. Am I gonna buy all three scores again just to get the 4th CD? No way. Another thing... who on Earth decided to put all of those horrible remixes on there again? I mean does someone actually enjoy film score being remixed into trance? That's just sick. I think Disney should either release the complete scores for the trilogy or stop messing around with people.

Matthew reply Replies: 0 || 2007-12-30 00:00:00
Am I the only one in this world that thinks movie soundtracks should be released WITH EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF MUSIC HEARD IN THE MOVIES ON THEM?

The first Pirates CD was pretty good, but Dead Man's Chest and At World's End have most of the music missing! I was TOTALLY AND UTTERLY DISAPPOINTED with both of them.

Why can't they just release the soundtracks with the COMPLETE SCORE on? Anyone agree?

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