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Because i don't support the idea of 'only good scores are full orchestral', don't agree with that statement.<br><br>Yes, i love Your Highness and Steamboy, aslo really like stuff like TF (except the four) and TMNT 2. But also something like Pain & Gain, Bloodshot, A Nightmare on Elm Street, Friday the 13th or the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Deepwater Horizon, even i consider (unpopular opinion) guilty pleasure Battleship.<br><br>Yes, i'm weird :p<br>I love revisiting this score. It's just so much fun, and I love hearing this side of Steve's music. I remember watching interviews where he'd talk about programming John Williams' string patterns into midi instruments, and his love for Williams' work overall. This side of him is rarely shown in his projects. <br><br>But then you have scores like this that show off how much of a wizard he can be with music. Melodic action music, fun and creative use of synth, classic Jablonsky choir chants, and beautiful use of the orchestra. Perfect for a fantasy comedy with a modern twist. <br><br>I cannot stress enough how much I love tracks like "Isabel the Strong", "Labyrinths And Humps", and "Mean Knights and Horsies O' My!". "Playful Secrets" in particular shows just how much of an expert Steve is with an orchestra. It sounds straight out of a John Williams score like Harry Potter or Indiana Jones with a fun Danny Elfman choir on top. Not to mention the beautifully performed bassoon and French Horn combo at 0:39 and 0:44! <br><br>These are the kinds of projects I like to see from Jablonsky. Films and games that allow him to show off his skills and test his abilities to the point where he creates complex, unique, varied, thematically rich, and truly poignant music. <br><br>This is something that I can point to and say "that's 100% a Steve Jablonsky score". It has some influence from Zimmer, but is not copying him by any means. Maybe with the slight exception of "Thadeous".Can't really agree that much with Bloodshot. The reason I was able to be engaged in Jablonsky's past scores similar to this (e.g. TF5, TMNT 2) was his strong melodic voice. Even in the more sound design parts of those scores there was at least several themes that I enjoyed, easily identified, and analyzed some lovely development for them. <br><br>Bloodshot doesn't really have that, it's got themes so minimal (except for KT which I can't really enjoy because the melody sounds identical to "Optimus"), that whatever development is there, I feel nothing toward because it's easy and boring to develop a theme that's basically just a series of chords. <br><br>Keanu I can't entirely judge Jablonsky for as it was also Nathan Whitehead's score, but it just sounds like Bloodshot 0.5 to me. Guitar chords, sound design, string ostinatos, wandering piano theme, been there done that. <br><br>Good lord, do I hope Steve works on Orbital Era though. It would be so refreshing to hear a full-on orchestral Jablonsky score again.Not only better than Spenser, it's better than Skyscraper.<br><br>Ok, Bloodshot maybe isn't one of the best works by Jablonsky, but after such disappointing with Skyscraper, see Jab in a work with choir, guitars, cool themes (if don't catch the similarities between KT's theme with the Autobots theme ;D) and good action writing (hang in there, i'm not going say is something good as Steamboy or Your Highness, even some of the Transformers/The Island stuff), as for the sound design, i prefer people like Jab, Zimmer or Holkenborg MORE than something dreadful as Reznor/RossJust listen Bloodshot OST again and I like it better than for the first time. Yes there is a lot of sounddesign elements, but quiet and melodic moments are good at some parts. My favorite track is "Bloodshot". For me this work, despite all the problems, is far better than Spencer Confidential.<br><br>There is extremely need of new Sci-Fi (not like Bloodshot, lol) or Fantasy project for Steve to work on. I'm fairly certain that he could provide amazing music for this genres, but for some reason.<br>Also, I've listened a few tracks from his "Keanu" score (posted on his new website) and it's wonderful, hope there will be a full release sometime. This one reminds me of another genre where Steve is good - comedy and parody movies - "Your Highness", "Pain and Gain", "Sims 3" (yes, it's a game score but it has that comedy atmosphere I'm talking about) all are really great scores for its genre.<br><br>For me "Eternals" from Marvel could be a good movie for Steve to work. And honestly, I would like to see what he could brings to "Godzilla vs Kong" crossover more than Junkie XL.<br><br>At least I hope that Katsuhiro Otomo would like to work with Steve again on his new anime project "Orbital Era", truly a dream-project.
Yes, the sound mixing in the movie is bad, you can't listen the music properly, is buried under a lot of sound effects.<br><br>It was one of those situations where 'the music is trying to overlook the thunderous sound effects',I do kinda prefer the 2014 score over the KOTM score, but McCreary's work does deserve more love than just being called a 'retreat of the original theme'.<br>It also deserved to be heard more, but the movie's sound mixing was terrible.Wasn't expecting to see someone else here for the same reason. Really hoping those two soundtracks return, they're great for studying music.Are Steve Jablonsky and Rupert Greyson-Williams still apart of RCP or they went solo too?I wouldn't disagree that Godzilla KOTM is a good score since it works very well for the movie and by itself. I'm just saying that Junkie XL can bring something new and interesting to the franchise which hasn't been done before.
Before someone jump, i will said in this kind of movies, change a composer is very common, don't say i don't want McCreary will be back, only i prefer other people try other things.<br><br>Like i said, i listen very OFTEN the three scores in this movies, and i love each style (as for the movies... well, prefer G14 and KSI over KOTM)@Moggyman<br><br>If you think that all McCreary did was modernize the Godzilla theme, you clearly haven't listend to the score.<br>He indeed used and modernized the themes for Godzilla & Mothra.<br>Besides that he wrote new themes for Rodan, Ghidorah, Monarch, The Russel Family and a theme he called the Ancient theme.<br><br>Besides this, he used the orchestra, choir, soloist and specialty instruments in the best way they can be used.<br><br>His score was one of the best blockbuster and orchestral scores of the last couple of years, in my opinion.<br><br>Until I hear Holkenborg's score I can't really comment on if it will be good. But at the moment I am sad McCreary isn't coming back. But I am very curious what Holkenborg will doI disagree, the McCreary's score in that movie is really, really good... but I put this, as myself i listen very often the other two: G14 and Skull Island, also really, really good, can't put a score over another because one composer uses a theme (a very mytical one, if you are a movie monster fan), specially in that franchise.<br><br>Yes, Ifukube create a wonderful theme (and the original movie have a really tough score to listen isolated of the movie), but other composer make a wonderful themes (and polaraising), like Otani (which his score for GMK is FULL electronic, but really good) or Oshima (great theme, maybe the inspiration for Desplat's theme), even the most forgotten Reijiro Koroku create a terrific theme for the character in 1984Bear McCreary is a good composer but all he did for Godzilla KOTM was modernize the original Godzilla theme, which isnt super creative. Junkie, on the other hand, may give us a really creative score based on his eagerness to do the project.Yeah besides the massive disappointment that is the movie Godzilla: King of the Monsters, the even bigger disappointment is that Bear McCreary won't be back for more.
you fool.... its impossible ! everybody knows that there is only one batman theme.... (joke)In a recent interview, Junkie mentioned that he's bringing back themes for Superman and Wonder Woman, while everything else is new. I wonder if he's gonna make a new Batman theme.It's true, there is completely different team from composer to director in crossover :)But the film was particularly bad...<br><br>So I rather have a whole other team do something ELSE lol...Yeah... McCreary's score is one of the best from last year so I'd rather have him again.
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Pirates Of The Caribbean: Soundtrack Treasures Collection
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Disc 1 : Pirates Of The Caribbean soundtrack
Disc 2 : Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest soundtrack
Disc 3 : Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End soundtrack
Disc 4 : Brand new remixes
Disc 5 : DVD of behind the scenes, making of the music and interviews with composer Hans Zimmer
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LCB reply Replies: 2 || 2014-08-16 22:53:52
"Lord Culter Beckett" is by Zimmer and Balfe as "Just Good Businnes"?


LCB2014-08-19 13:46:01
And "Pirate Lord of Singapore"?


Mike2014-08-19 16:42:15
I always assumed those two were just Zimmer, but we don't know.

Jimmy reply Replies: 6 || 2013-07-26 22:43:00
Which of the following would Just Good Business fall under?

--Hans and Lorne working together
--Lorne based off Hans' other Beckett suite
--Just Lorne


Anonymous2013-07-27 02:38:35
I believe the second one (Lorne basing it off Hans' work). In one of the videos on disc 5, Lorne says something like, "I hear Hans in there going DA DA DA DA DA so I figure I need to go DA DA DA DA DA also" (in other words, he needs to imitate the overall style).


MacArthur2013-09-02 06:32:34
What is this of course Zimmer wrote it


Mike2013-09-02 14:36:27
No, it's on Lorne's website. With the exception of "Opening Titles" from MW2 and "Maestro" from The Holiday, everything on Lorne's site is by Lorne Balfe.


Mike2013-09-02 14:37:11
And who knows, perhaps Maestro is by Lorne Balfe, but I'd be surprised...


MacArthur2013-09-02 19:40:08
Wait are you talking the Pirates theme. (He's a Pirate) of course Zimmer wrote that cause when it was wrote Lorne wasn't even involved in RCP.


Mike2013-09-03 00:25:09
The original question was referring to the "Just Good Business" suite from At World's End.

Anonymous reply Replies: 3 || 2013-07-20 05:27:00
Did Klaus actually write any of the themes in the first movie or did he just arrange Hans' music?


NM2013-07-20 16:44:58
Klaus has the entire soundtrack on his Soundcloud. Also, extract from an interview by Klaus about the 1st Pirates film:

"Composers always get help, because there is just so much music that has to be written. Hey, I compose the themes and I orchestrate them. But it’s not just about themes. I define the sound, or palette, for Pirates , which also relies heavily on synthesizers and percussion. We did specific sampling for percussion too. So, I define how the music sounds and thus how the movie sounds. And after that is done, then I run into all the different rooms."

"I have tons of orchestrators! And tons of helpers. I was basically running through eight rooms in the studio. I would play a theme on the piano or straight into the computer, give instructions as to how the cue should sound, but then, don’t take me too seriously because… what do I know! And then run to the next room, next cue. And then off to the next room and see what was written in there. So I was like the manager on this score."

Makes it sound like he wrote a lot of the material.

There kind of seems to be an unfair revision of history where some people think Zimmer did everything and Badelt did very little.


Hybrid Soldier2013-07-20 19:23:34
You don't know the story NM, and I got it confirmed not only by Hans but others who worked on it...

And, yes, nonetheless Klaus wrote some stuff, and I've already told what on I don't remember what POTC page... :D


NM2013-07-20 20:30:15
Well I only can go by what I've read in interviews, and on this site really. I don't claim to know much about it. There's so much information out there that all just contradicts each other, so I just enjoy the music.

I'd love if you filled me in a bit.

billy reply Replies: 3 || 2013-05-26 21:36:03
The "Just Good Buisness" track is an unused film cue or a theme suite too?


Anonymus2013-05-26 23:04:33
It' s a theme suite (have a look on the expanded score tracklist).


Edmund Meinerts2013-05-27 13:04:51
I also heard somewhere that it's an unused cue for the first part of the Maelstrom battle.


Mike2013-05-28 09:13:12
If I'm not mistaken, it's an alternate/shortened version of Beckett's so called "Demo Theme" found on Lorne Balfe's site.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2013-04-30 09:19:29
"Lord Cutler Beckett" is the perfect mix of elegant and ruthless. Bravo Hans.

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Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2013-01-15 03:36:02
Finally got my hands on this thing, for about 30 bucks. Considering that it's not available on Amazon for under $85, that isn't bad.

DamnRight reply Replies: 5 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
@Matthew
"Am I the only one in this world that thinks movie soundtracks should be released WITH EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF MUSIC HEARD IN THE MOVIES ON THEM?

The first Pirates CD was pretty good, but Dead Man's Chest and At World's End have most of the music missing! I was TOTALLY AND UTTERLY DISAPPOINTED with both of them.

Why can't they just release the soundtracks with the COMPLETE SCORE on? Anyone agree? "

I second


Mike2012-11-30 19:44:39
Third. I'd pay as much as they want if they'd release the stuff.


Master of Fate2012-12-01 01:57:39
Haha, no. No, you wouldn't. Good joke. Just like everyone else, you would sit around waiting for one single person to buy them all and then pirate the hell out of everything.


Mike2012-12-01 03:43:59
Okay...? Did you see me ask if I could use that picture on the At World's End Expanded Score? I only get stuff I know I'm allowed to have.


Mike2012-12-01 03:47:45
Obviously, in this case I wouldn't be allowed to have it unless I bought it. There's no need for you to be rude.


Master of Fate2012-12-01 05:05:33
Oh. You're THAT guy. sorry

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
Why ?

Because to Disney's eyes the word "music" means "costs" instead of "opportunity".


And I strongly disagree with POTC 1's OST... So many great cues missing or edited... ;)


Agnt007dman2011-08-02 06:28:19
Disney absolutely has more than enough money for costs to release a full score!

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-06 00:00:00
Oh come on Hybrid, I'm sure you have POTC1 complete score ! Hehe

fan reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-06 00:00:00
best~~~~~~~~~~~

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-03 00:00:00
@ Matthew & DamnRight

I THIRD!!!!!

Chalsea reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-28 00:00:00
Dead Man's Chest and At World's End have most of the music missing! I was disappointed about this.

Brad reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-12 00:00:00
Hybrid, another tracklisting question. Do you think you could detail who composed what on the 4th CD of this collection? Meaning, all of the extra suites from the films. I'd love to know who composed "Marry Me" and "The Heart of Davy Jones." Also, I have in mp3 format, the audio from each film's end titles suite. Could you tell me who composed what on each end title? Thanks a million! Appreciate all you do on here too!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-12 00:00:00
The Theme Suites are all HZ... ;)

emirhan reply Replies: 0 || 2009-07-20 00:00:00
asd

farouk reply Replies: 0 || 2009-05-23 00:00:00
really i love Hans zemmer because he create a very very good soundtrack specially music of pirates of carrebben and batman

Anurag tiwary reply Replies: 0 || 2009-05-03 00:00:00
I had never been though the feeling before listening this feeling. great music really great.

nanana}¿ reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-07 00:00:00
no entiendo una verga tio esta mas de la chingada ha ha la puta cuca

Rick reply Replies: 0 || 2009-02-23 00:00:00
For those who wonder should you get this set. Are the extra Disc 4 and 5 worth it.
Yes! Especially disc 4, all the suites are a great listen and is a treat to your ear. You can listen to all of them without skipping. (you may want to stop when the remix starts thou)
The beautiful theme of POTC 3 is finally given a full complete treatment of wondorous 9 mins. Dont like Pirate lord of Singapore in POTC original album? listen to the Pirate lord of Singapore suite and your opinion will change.
I am a true Hans Zimmer fan with over 50 discs in collection. I must admit thou I am not a fan of FULL and COMPLETE soundtrack because I listen to those tracks that are beautiful and skip those that are not.
I fully support suite as it developed those little sweet tunes that often I find ended too soon on usual movie score into one grand finale. Great work.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2008-11-01 00:00:00
hoist the colours high!! hans you doing a magnificent job here.....you can do a 4th movie and hoist the colours even higher. CMON!

Pedal reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-06 00:00:00
Yes, these are great. Great music. Actually, what's wrong with them, really? Well yeah I kind of wonder why they have to put all 3 soundtracks in and we have to buy it just to get the 4th disc. Well I mean the bonus and the one on Hans ZImmer. The thing is, they don't sell it in my country D: At least there's no sign of it anywhere. So I just listen to it on Youtube(:
And I thought the remixes are okay. I know some are a bit funny but then, you see them as UNIQUE(: yay. Pirate music is beautiful. Hans Zimmer is amazing.

Steven reply Replies: 0 || 2008-08-05 00:00:00
Beckett theme rules as for the Lord of Singapore and Hoist the Colours actually they all are great

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-16 00:00:00
I beg to differ. Pirate Lord of Singapore, although not recorded the way we hear it in the film, still has some nice motifs that didn't make it to the CD. Marry Me too has the Hearts Stabbed theme and Cutler Beckett has that dude's theme which was never really given that much playtime on the soundtrack album. It's a superb CD with awesome concert suites.

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-16 00:00:00
The suites are just arrangements of various unused material, demos or possibly alternates. They don't have any real unreleased music from any of the movies as such.

just007 reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-18 00:00:00
great treasure collection, i love it, also seeing Hans Zimmer live playing his score...

Peter Bezemer reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-18 00:00:00
I have it right here :-D

The live performance on the premiere is cool!!!

ADAM reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-04 00:00:00
It Is really great, i love it, i wish that they would release more too, but what can we do, i love what i got

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-03 00:00:00
Ok, I feel the need to say this is an absolutely ridiculous release. I bought the Japanese special edition of the first two scores (which already has a bonus DVD) and the regular for the third. Now I'd most definately buy the additional and unreleased score CD (some nice stuff on there I must say) from this crazy box set if it were available separately. Am I gonna buy all three scores again just to get the 4th CD? No way. Another thing... who on Earth decided to put all of those horrible remixes on there again? I mean does someone actually enjoy film score being remixed into trance? That's just sick. I think Disney should either release the complete scores for the trilogy or stop messing around with people.

Matthew reply Replies: 0 || 2007-12-30 00:00:00
Am I the only one in this world that thinks movie soundtracks should be released WITH EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF MUSIC HEARD IN THE MOVIES ON THEM?

The first Pirates CD was pretty good, but Dead Man's Chest and At World's End have most of the music missing! I was TOTALLY AND UTTERLY DISAPPOINTED with both of them.

Why can't they just release the soundtracks with the COMPLETE SCORE on? Anyone agree?

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