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Not as simply as that.... Training is Ramin's arrangement of a Hans theme, and the core of Mr. Charles when the Fischer theme isn't playing is a Hans idea, too, as far as I know. Take the Zimmer out and those moments wouldn't be the same.I think Balfe working with Nolan would have done a great jobBob,The Training is basically Ramin Djawadi and Mr.Charles is BalfeI hope these two team up again. Zimmer's score is the main driving force for some memorable scenes. Just a few<br>Batman Begins-The Training<br>TDK- Joker crash the party, Gordon's speech and ending<br>Inception - Time, Mr.Charles, <br>TKDR - the climb, imagine the fire and orphan<br>Interstellar-Stay, Docking, coward, mountain<br>Dunkirk - well the entire movieJustin Hurwitz I can see. I enjoyed La La Land and First Man. But Both Hurwitz and Göransson are several notches above Lorne Balfe. <br><br>I think 80/100 directors would rather work with Göransson than Balfe.
I really believe that Nolan has made a mistake as a composer.I think Lorne Balfe, David Julyan or Justin Hurwitz would be much better options than Ludwig Goransson.Interesting news. <br><br>Geoff Zanelli is one of those composers who I’ve loved his additional music over his solo efforts, Pirates 5 excluded. I hope he gets a chance to write some great fantasy music for this, regardless if he reuses JNH’s themes or not.I think I am the only one, who would be glad about David Julyan return.<br><br>I really like his music for early Nolan's films, especially Insomnia, and it's what i can call an "atmospheric experience".<br><br>Don't know how his music fits for espionage timetraveling movie, but, for me, i'st would be something interesting to hear.@mpolonest123: those Pemberton scores are indeed pure gold, very cool on album but insanely good in the movie. My favorite is still his King Arthur, that was a beast of a score that stuck with the movie like glue and really enhanced Guy Ritchie's dark, twisted, trippy vision.*3 things
Sure, but there's two things to consider. <br>1). Pirates has such an iconic sound that it'd be really stupid for them to suddenly abandon it at #5. Especially when we hired the guy who has worked on the previous 4. 2). Maleficent, as successful as it was to warrant a sequel, isn't quite as well known in the score department, despite being well received by those who have heard it. 3). Because Zanelli worked on all Pirates, he had enough familiarity with the sounds and motifs that he knew where to go once he led the ship. In Maleficent's case, he's taking over from a previous composer, and is working with a director who likely only knows his work on POTC5. As such, there's no knowing yet if he might be compelled to continue on from JNH, or if it's decided he just does his own thing.<br><br>I'm happy that Geoff at the very least has a safe career at Disney, considering two of their recent live action successes has had him involved. However, considering I hear his recently work hasn't been his best, JNH likely would've benefited from returning to a world that had some of his best material after he wasn't given the opportunity to do so with Glass. As such, it really is a severely missed opportunity, even if newer blood is getting more opportunities.Just listening to this again. It really is a best of both score. What I think is so great, is that you can hear both of the brothers' own voice but they blend so well together!! Really really great score!<br><br>It's a really remarkable score, the swifts in tone between dramatic and jazz is top-notch. It's higher on favorite list from 2019 already, than I thought it would ever be.<br><br>Give me more Gregson-Williams brothers scores!!!!!!I was hoping for JNH, but we'll see what he does. JNH's themes were amazing zo it would be stupod not to use them. But he used the Pirates themes, so I'm feeling actually quite ok about itTrue, but he didn’t really get credit for The Lone Ranger or any of the Pirates films other than #5... those are billed strictly as HZ scores. I would say Christopher Robin likely was a result of the success of his Pirates score, and Timothy Green wasn’t really a Disney tentpole release. Maleficent isn’t a Marvel or Star Wars level tentpole, but it is still a blockbuster film that I think he’ll do an awesome job with.@Mephariel - you’re right. However Interstellar and Inception, musically speaking, are simple scores. They are moving, beautiful, and masterpieces, but still simple. Which is great! <br><br>But if we are wanting Zimmer to return to a type of music, I’d much rather prefer something along the lines of Pirates, The Rock, The Last Samurai, Crimson Tide, etc. Tonally, of course it would be more modern and new, but melodically a return to those forms would be a dream come true.
Geoff has done several other Disney projects besides Pirates 5.  (All Pirates movies since the first, Lone Ranger, Christopher Robin, Odd Life of Timothy Green). And I have to say that I would rather JNH return for the sequel, as that would allow him to expand on his fantastic score for the first film.@George<br><br>To be fair, Interstellar is a genuine masterpiece score and maybe one my favorite score of all time, but I am not sure when Nolan will allow Zimmer to return to that type of scoring. <br><br>Hell, Time is my favorite cue ever, but again, I am not sure if Nolan is interested in that kind of music anymore.  <br><br>I guess we will see with Tenet. And yes, I absolutely think Göransson can be a future star in the making and if anyone is allow write his or her own "Time" cultural moment, it may as well be him.@mephariel @mpolonest123 - glad I’m not the only one who’s more excited for those compared to cold and dark Nolan/Zimmer scores. I’m kinda over those to be honest.And if I’m completely honest, I’m more excited by WW84, Spongebob, Top Gun, and Dark Phoenix than another potential Nolan collab.@mephariel <br>I can definitely see that, especially with King Arthur and Spiderverse. I do think his music adds a lot to the films he scores (Steve Jobs and Man From Uncle being two great examples) where he consistently switches up styles and tones to keep things fresh. Maybe not the strongest theme writer but I do love his approaches.
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My Winter Storm
Label: Universal Records
Length: 75'16
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  1. Ite, Missa Est (0:27)
  2. I Walk Alone (3:53)
  3. Lost Northern Star (4:22)
  4. Seeking For The Reign (0:58)
  5. The Reign (4:07)
  6. The Escape Of The Doll (0:32)
  7. My Little Phoenix (4:02)
  8. Die Alive (4:04)
  9. Boy And The Ghost (4:36)
  10. Sing For Me (4:16)
  11. Oasis (5:10)
  12. Poison (4:01)
  13. Our Great Divide (5:05)
  14. Sunset (0:36)
  15. Damned And Divine (4:29)
  16. Ciarán's Well (3:37)
  17. Minor Heaven (4:00)
  18. Calling Grace (3:06)
  19. Bonus : Damned Vampire & Gothic Divine (5:01)
  20. Bonus : I Walk Alone (Artist Version) (4:23)
  21. Bonus : I Walk Alone (In Extremo Remix) (4:31)
  22. Bonus : The Seer (4:17)
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Ariel reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-18 00:00:00
Tarja is so amazing, and special, anette cant hold a candle to her grace and all aroung good taste.Tarja is a diva, and rightly so.Congratulations Tarja,you have changed many lives with your amazing voice, including mine, you ,and you alone, are my greatest inspiration.

Love Ariel

rakeli reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-17 00:00:00
Tarja is one of the best singers on this earth! I am happy that for this album she worked with great names!
I just hope that ppl will understand that Tarja is not NW anymore!
Now she walks alone! Well not alone because we all her fans are with her! We are her winter storm wich hold her awake!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-15 00:00:00
This CD is just CRAP

Kiitos reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-15 00:00:00
Anette has noting to do with Tarja's powerful voice.. She sang the old-Nightwish songs terribly... Anette is not a good singer and I think Tarja will surprise us with a really good album :)

keni reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-15 00:00:00
i love your voice tarja, you are the greatest!!!!!

Tais Lima reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-12 00:00:00
Tarja perfect!!!

Klaas reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-11 00:00:00
I as well was very pleased with Dark Passion Play. I'm not really a huge Nightwish fan, I just like them for their brilliant use of Symphonic music with metal. I've got all their cd's and I've seen them live two times, so I think I know what I'm talking about.

Anette's voice is something new, something different. Accepting her depends on what fan you are. If you like the music and the band, like me, the new album is just awesome. If you prefer Tarja's voice above all, then you'll probably hate the new album.

As I said, except for her old Nightwish fans I don't think she'll attract many listeners. I never said I didn't gave this album a try. Musically she's nothing without Tuomas - and I say that with the single in my hands.

Jön reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-10 00:00:00
In my OPINION I think people should be informed and should listen to some of the tracks, if you've heard the new nightwish album you could see it's only shit, totally comercial and the girl It's not right for the kind of music the used to play...
i heard tarja's ciaran's well and is so powerful tarja now is walking alone but she is a great musian also
toumas wrote the songs he didn't sing tarja put the melodies
and the last tour of evanescence amy lee was out of tune in most of the songs but i still like her
I think we all should give my winter storma a try
as i did with dark passion play and i hate it

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-10 00:00:00
I really like Dark Passion Play, better than Once (except for Creek Mary's Blood and Ghost Love Score), and I'm a HUGE fan of Nightwish... :-)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-07 00:00:00
personally i think Amy Lee's voice is more suited for this type of music. that being said Tarja has a really nice voice but is better suited in classical music. If she made a classical album i probably would buy it

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-06 00:00:00
I agree, Klaas... ;-)



But let's give a little chance to the RC Team... :-D

Klaas reply Replies: 0 || 2007-10-06 00:00:00
Except for her old Nightwish fans I don't think Tarja will have lots of succes. Her voice is excellent, but so far she can't offer the quality she could deliver previously with the Nightwish boys.

Musically she's nothing without Tuomas Holopainen, wether you like it or not. I hope mr. Holopainen starts writing filmscores soon by the way, he's a genius.

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