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Guess a sessions leak of a score that was already 90 minutes long on the original album isn't worth getting super excited for...Is it me or does the main theme sound a lot like Hannibal? No doubt Zanelli’s stamp on the score...Hybrid, did Zimmer composed any of the music in the second trailer? <br><br>Interesting that nobody's mentioned the sessions leak. Pretty sure I posted a cue list but it must have been deleted.@mephariel<br>None of the styles work for me really. Most of the score comes across as a pastiche of ideas from other Zimmer scores where they were better developed (Gladiator, The Rock, Crimson Tide, etc.) and Even the action is kind of hit or miss. I just don’t find it to be an interesting score honestly.
@kiki: delete inferno for me aswell......and a very good solo Balfe cue, at that. That theme and Hans' Moriarty theme are the most engaging ideas of these movies, to me. <br><br>Hey, while I'm here, any word on Hans doing the third movie?i would delete Dunkirk immediately from that library. That's the WORST score ever written from any composer out there. This isn't even a score or film music. Just pure sound effects.No, "Psychological Recovery" is scored to picture, a bunch of cues put together from the climax of the film. IIRC the first three minutes or so are a solo Balfe cue actually.Nope, not a suite, a mix of about 4/5 cues.
M:I2 is definitely a polarizing score. But I have to say, this is the first time I heard the criticism stylistically bland refer to this score. Because for most people who dislike the score, they think the score is too stylish.love this score. hasn't grown on me. was listening to it on my commute today. do you guys know if the track "psychological recovery" is the "suite" that came first. and then other cues developed from it? thanksEven then, I feel like its still irrelevant to post the titles for it does us no good and it will be posted here eventually. But whatever I guessJust realized I’ve been calling the movie “Windows” instead of “Widows”. <br>Ugh it’s been a long day -_-Just took a look at the trailer and am really impressed with how the film looks, not what I was expecting at all. I honestly don’t know what approach Zimmer will take either, although if I had to guess probably more sound design-ish.<br><br>And outside of “Injection” and “Bare Island” I find MI2 to be bland and all over the place stylistically. Just my opinion though, I know a lot of people love that score ;-)
mpolonest123, have you seen the trailer for Widows? Zimmer created the music for that trailer and I assume it came from the movie. If that is the case, it will sound nothing like TTRL.M:I2 is a blast to listen to. I just have a hard time imagine it to be a MI score. But it is one of the most fun scores from Zimmer.And as far Zimmer scores that I don’t like for the most part, there is a small handful (Madagascar, MI2, etc.)That’s completely fair, and I honestly couldn’t defend this score and be genuine about it. I think it does help that I love this movie (despite being hard to watch) and have come to associate the music with it so much. Still, I can’t lie that I find portions of it to be incredibly effective, even when the music does become solely ambient. In terms of listenability/originality the best cue is, ironically, the 24-second “Washington” cue.<br><br>I would kill to know what Zimmer personally thinks of this score. I’m sure he had a great working relationship with Steve, hence him working on “Windows”, but I’m sure the temptrack must have been murder on his creativity...This is my least favorite Zimmer score, actually. Or else the one that I feel has the least going for it; I guess it doesn't make me mad like On Stranger Tides, but at the same time it lacks anything even remotely compelling. "Boat Trip to New Orleans" is the only halfway interesting cue and even then I don't really like to listen to it much. The experimental parts aren't interesting experiments (ooh...clapping...wow), and the Journey to the Line stuff is just tired and bland (on top of being super derivative). I get that it works in the movie or whatever but if I had a gun to my head with orders to delete one Hans score from my library and never listen to it again, I'm pretty sure this would be the one I'd go for.
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Klaus BadeltGeoff ZanelliRamin DjawadiJim Dooley
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The Time Machine (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 71'01
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  1. Main Titles (3:24)
  2. Wish Me Luck (1:20)
  3. Marry Me (1:10)
  4. Emma Dies #1 (1:31)
  5. In A Week (3:09)
  6. Bleeker Street (2:26)
  7. Emma Dies #2 (0:56)
  8. Moon Sign (1:06)
  9. I Don't Belong Here (3:56)
  10. In The Year 2030 (1:02)
  11. Time Travel - Asteroid (2:11)
  12. Where Am I (0:38)
  13. Are The Friendly (3:33)
  14. Goodnight (4:37)
  15. Stones & River - Village (4:52)
  16. Morlocks Attack (7:04)
  17. Where The Ghosts Are (1:43)
  18. Morlock World (6:27)
  19. The Master (5:42)
  20. Time Machine Returns - Fight (4:08)
  21. Alex Reconsiders (1:29)
  22. The Escape (3:24)
  23. Freedom - Godspeed (5:17)
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ThePhantasm reply Replies: 29 || 2018-02-18 05:00:01
So Johan johannson (R.I.P) was actually going to be the composer for Christopher Robin instead of the previously announced Klaus Badelt, where does that leave Klaus? Its honestly heartbreaking that the guy can't get a damn good project he is so talented and deserves a chance. He's proved himself with The Promise, pirates, time machine, solomon kane etc. How is it that henry jack and lorne balfe both of which I'm a fan of can get projects no problem but Klaus can't??

Maybe he needs a better agent.


Anonymous2018-02-18 09:27:44
Or. Maybe he's just choosey with his projects like Powell is.


gringo2018-02-18 10:13:40
@ThePhantasm: It breaks my heart aswell. He was the heart in Zimmers most beautiful era and would have wished to see him making his own great carreer. I've never understood the hype for Lorne etc. For me Badelt >> Lorne,Junkie,etc


Edmund Meinerts2018-02-18 10:14:13
I don't think so...remember those years when he did all sorts of random low-budget French comedies and thrillers? Didn't seem too choosy to me.

This is pure idle speculation, mind you, but I wonder if Klaus might not have burned some bridges here and there...his departure from the MV/RC/Hans inner circle seemed awfully abrupt.


Hybrid Soldier2018-02-18 10:30:34
There's a lot more to the Klaus story I can't really disclose here...


Bob Belcher2018-02-18 10:50:00
because it would put a bad light to zimmer? are his hands involved in this that badelt isn't getting any big movies at all?


rockhound2018-02-18 11:10:27
klaus said in an interview last year, that he was looking to do some french movies, because he saw one on a flight to paris and was amazed by that movie and also because he loves paris and has a couple of friends there. he contacted people there to get in the french film business. he likes the way the people work there in the business. more freedom for him. in the interview he doesn't sound like he had to do these movies, because otherwiese he wouldn't get work. he really wanted to do these movies.


Hybrid Soldier2018-02-18 11:22:30
On Hans ? No. On Klaus...


I'll say one thing : waste of talent... I loved Klaus' music and his amazing scores while he was in RCP, but he didn't need the help of anyone to destroy his own career... Too bad...


Hybrid Soldier2018-02-18 11:24:10
In fact, he's not even a composer anymore, he has his own company which deals with movie broadcasting worldwide... He does a score here & there but it never was his vocation... He just happened to be ridiculously talented (and Hans will confirm this to anyone even to this day).


Bob Belcher2018-02-18 11:35:08
Thanks Hybrid for those informations. I always had some fear Hans had his fingers in his departure from rcp and making his career-life as hard as it can get. It's too bad to see he doesn't appreciate the gift it was given to him. That talent was beyond, and the collaboration between Hans and Klaus was magical. I so would have wished it would never have stopped. And by reading your comments, Hans seems to think that aswell :(


...2018-02-18 11:36:33
and what about Trevor Rabin? He is amazing composer as well, sadly we don´t hear about him anymore


rockhound2018-02-18 11:43:31
trevor rabin is taking a break from composing filmmusic and was on tour the last 2 years with jon anderson and rick wakeman from YES. they created a new band called ARW. at the moment they are working on new songs.


Hybrid Soldier2018-02-18 11:56:42
Yeah I agree, the problem with Trevor is that he never adapted to his environment, so to speak... He never changed his style, always the same kind of writing (big amazing theme + big action + guitars) and slowly lost the interest of everyone...

Key is being able to renew yourself (for better or for worse). But I miss his themes cause he's an amazing melody writer.

I know he wants to work, he wants to be hired to score, even if he doesn't "need" it really, and yes he has his solo/band career going on as well...

Funny story about Trevor he never really liked being listed on Hans-Zimmer.com as he never was a regular RCP occupant (even if I think having worked with Mancina and then done pretty much 5 scores at RCP, and then having in his team former RCP members, it did justify to me)... But since I'm probably the last one promoting his career on the internet, and having his brother-in-law Steve Kofsky being RCP's boss, I keep him there ! lol


rockhound2018-02-18 12:07:40
im actually very happy, that trevor didn't renew his style like hans for a couple of times. i just wish, he would compose more for orchestra only without guitars and cheap sounding samples. scores like Remember The Titans, The Great Raid and Flyboys prove that he can do it. maybe bruckheimer will hire him someday again. trevor composed amazing scores for him....with help by rcp on a couple of movies. ;)


mpolonest123 2018-02-18 12:30:28
Lol, maybe Trevor can return for Deep Blue Sea 2! Not that THAT would help his career much....



MrZimmerFan2018-02-18 12:43:25
Rabin himself has never considered to be a Zimmer-guy.


ThePhantasm2018-02-18 15:29:28
Damn so he ruined his own career? i hope he gets a second shot. Would to see what he can do with a superhero movie. I know he'd kill it if given the chance. Hopefully disney will let him score Christopher Robin. Here's hoping!


Edmund Meinerts2018-02-18 15:36:32
Well, there's always Catwoman...


ThePhantasm 2018-02-18 16:29:28
Hey man, that was a really good score okay lol but i mean like a good superhero movie like a marvel or DC


Dudu2018-02-18 22:20:35
@Hybrid,
Speaking of klaus, do you know how the other rcp members feel about him? Do they still keep in touch or is he persona non grata?
I know that geoff zanelli is completely pissed (check his website, for all the projects he names his colleagues like steve jablonsky or else, and then for the klaus projects he just puts « the composer »), and you told that hans avoids him as much as he can ( which I can see when the pirates topic is brought during interviews post 2006...no mention of klaus)
Hell even michael levine in his post about « why hans gets the job » name-dropped EVERYONE at rcp but klaus
So i was wondering how people act towards jim nowadays, especially ramin djawadi who is really popular now and started as his assistant!


Olive2018-02-19 02:43:12
From the way you talk it even seems like the man turned into a criminal. lol


rockhound2018-02-19 09:37:03
when i take a look on IMDB, klaus is still busy with filmmusic. just because he doesn't score hollywood blockbusters anymore and is not busy as lorne balfe, doesn't mean that he destroyed his career.


ok2018-02-19 12:09:01
he is doing Christopher Robin (2018, its disney
that is a big movie is it not


Balfe2018-02-19 13:32:17
Well, Klaus did compose a lot of the essential music from 1997 to 2005. As we know, Hans says - Hans does. Why do we trust this 'Hybrid Soldier', who calls them themselves that anyway? Tell us more mr rcp. How are you top of the line when you are French. Who is Hybrid - must be a reject from HZ line....



Olive2018-02-19 13:33:48
Johánnsson was hired for Christopher Robin little time before his death. Now will be another composer.


Olive2018-02-19 13:33:48
Johánnsson was hired for Christopher Robin little time before his death. Now will be another composer.


Hybrid Soldier2018-02-19 13:35:40
Then explain to me why his career went downhill after he left Remote in 2006 ?


rockhound2018-02-19 15:04:31
hybrid, what do you mean with downhill? to compose music for smaller movies doesn't mean you don't earn money or your career is ruined. i really don't see the problem with his career.


ThePhantasm2018-02-19 21:54:51
Well john powell left RCP as well and he still has a great career, i think Klaus just has a shitty agent, it makes me so angry cause he's so talented and I want to hear more from him but he doesn't get great movies. Or even big summer movies, I don't know about his career going downhill though.


Scorefan2018-02-20 00:21:23
And who's the agent of Klaus?

Bayhem reply Replies: 0 || 2017-06-16 23:14:42
Ok, I love this piece of music, but I don't think it's part of the score album. I can't find it anywhere! It's the music during the "So I'm not just a wandering idiot?" scene. 50 minutes or so into the movie. It's such a nice, sweet melody. Beautiful stuff. Any help would be appreciated, folks.

Aggelos reply Replies: 1 || 2014-06-19 15:02:59
There seems to be some Final mixes on Badelt's newly updated webpage.

klausbadelt.com/


Per2014-06-19 16:17:01
It's the same material as on the old 'expanded' version listed on this very page, and nothing more than that it seems...

Yes, there's more tracks, but it seems to be just repeated tracks. But I'll be glad to stand corrected if any are indeed different.

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-24 00:00:00
Yes, that is correct, track '11 - Time Travel - Asteroid' listed here is actually Eloi, and yes, it's also different than the one on the soundtrak. It uses the same, or similar, "choir-words" (if that makes any sense) as in 'Godspeed'.

Also, track '14 - Goodnight' is actually 'Time Travel', and should be placed (to place it in a chronlogical order) after track 10. (And so track 11-12-13 would be 12-13-14, respectively)

Some other differences in this other than Eloi, is 'Where The Ghosts Are', which is a slightly different mix with less/no choir (compared to the one on the soundtrack) (the one with less choir is the mix in the film).
And the flute thingy, which can be heard from ca. 4:55 - 5:32 on track 14 on the soundtrack, is not on this version. But if that piece is just a different piece/cue added to that place on the soundtrack, or if it's a revised version of the cue (track '21 - Alex Reconsiders') I don't know.
And of course the Good Night cue (track '13 - Are They Friendly' on this version), is different.

But even though you have two different versions of the 'Good Night' on the soundtrack and this version, none of these are the one in the film, "of course"... But beyond the 'film version' of that cue, there's not much more missing (as heard in the film anyway), other than a short piece (after 'Good Night' and before 'Stone Language' in the film), which I believe to be the same as the last half minute or so of 'Stone Language', only without the percussion !

D reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-06 00:00:00
Is Time Travel - Asteroid meant to be Eloi (from the retail soundtrack)? The vocal sounds a bit different?

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-11 00:00:00
@ The_Dimensionalist

It's a bootleg. You're not gonna find it in a store.

The_Dimensionalist reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-11 00:00:00
What is this? Where is its release date? How are there tracks with times, if this soundtrack does not exist? Can someone explain what is going on?

Slither reply Replies: 0 || 2007-12-04 00:00:00
Quite liked this score but I think the promise is without a dought Badelts best score to date, he was really inspired during his stay in China that he really came out of the experience with a score which tops even Zimmers latest offerings. I cant wait to see a complete release of the promise score, because i have seen the film and there are a lot of great cues missing from the album, one in which features in the trailer.

hans-batman-zimmer reply Replies: 0 || 2007-12-01 00:00:00
Zimmer's sound had a lot effect on POTC1.
So I think this is the best.

(From Japan)

Xxxxxxx Xxxx reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-30 00:00:00
Im not sure I would agree... POTC1 was alot catchier.... but that's my opinion.

hans-batman-zimmer reply Replies: 0 || 2007-11-27 00:00:00
This is the Badelt's best.

(From Japan)

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