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/ it's me@ds "Ramin is also doing a lot of projects but is far, far behind in terms of styles and creativity."<br> <br>I think the same for Jablonsky, Zanelli, XL, Jackman and Mancina.@macejko<br><br>"All the time he acts like the hottest shit in town, refusing to score basically everything they offer him"<br><br>You said in another comment that you never read an interview with Powell, so not reason you take that kind of conclusion of your character.<br><br>"The man hides in a cave, doesn't evolve at all and for some mysterious reason he is still revered like a second coming of Jesus Christ."<br>Powell is a clearly talented composer. He suffered criticism at the beginning of his career by sounding like Zimmer, but soon showed substance. And much more than that created an identifiable style, which today is reference to other scores of modern animations (which may be good or bad to depend on of the point of view).<br>Today he is an established composer and it is common for these composers to move away for a few years or even close their careers without many explanations for the public. In recent years we watched the estrangement of Silvestri, Horner, Williams and in the past we saw Faltemeyer, Bill Conti and Brad Fiedel drop their careers when they were at the top of the game.<br><br>" Say anything you will about Lorne Balfe, but at least he is working his ass off and slowly getting better and better"<br><br>As they said in another comment, you're compared to newbies and veterans. Balfe's having the opportunity of his life now. Take it or leave it. There's no choice. Powell, as well as Zimmer others, on the other hand, is a "senior member" of the club. He can afford to go away for a few years to resolve comprehensible personal problems without affecting the hard work he has developed in the last 20 years. Will Balfe continue to be so creative in 10 or 15 years?<br><br>@ds<br><br>"<br>Powell has nothing to prove, he has already mastered all genres"<br><br>That's funny, but it's fair. Powell Is a good composer. Not the best, far from it. Your style really narrows your work down, but we can say that from all the composers out there. So it's not a problem.The problem is he wants to limit his work to animations and fantasy.because he abhors gratuitous violence.<br><br>@george<br><br>". Although, I hate to say it, we could say the same for Zimmer in my opinion"<br><br>Zimmer's at the end of his career. All the other composers when they arrived at 60 years (with the exception of JNH, Goldsmith and Morricone) reduced the amount of projects per year and went on to choose their work best. It's a natural way.Over the years, it tends to get worse with one exception here and there. Don't keep expectations like he's in his prime<br><br>"he has "nothing more to prove", he is creatively dead."<br><br><br>Powell will work with a little more frequently in the coming years (or not) that only depends on his ambitions. However, frankly, he's never going to do three again. 4.5. 6 projects in a year. It takes a lot of motivation for that.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Just listened to the whole thing, kind of a let down. Nothing interessting except for some action moments. Donít even recall hearing some sort of theme. Overall it was like listening to Cars 4: Spanish World Cup.I have already listened to The Jumanji Overture and I must say it sounds really great. Let's see how the rest of the score sounds.
Tracklist with track duration:<br>01. The Jumanji Overture (03:20)<br>02. Digging Up The Past (01:43)<br>03. Brantfort High (01:09)<br>04. Into The Jungle (01:23)<br>05. Out of Character (02:31)<br>06. The Legend of the Jewel (02:23)<br>07. The Adventure Begins (01:40)<br>08. Special Abilities (01:16)<br>09. The Bikers (03:44)<br>10. Van Pelt (01:00)<br>11. A Test Of Friendship (01:22)<br>12. The Bazaar (01:16)<br>13. Snake Charmer (03:41)<br>14. The Power of Bravestone (01:04)<br>15. Seaplane McDonough (02:17)<br>16. The Missing Piece (01:46)<br>17. Lost In Time (01:18)<br>18. Flirting With Danger (01:36)<br>19. Albino Rhinos (03:44)<br>20. Retrieving the Emerald (01:54)<br>21. Out of Lives (01:49)<br>22. First Kiss (01:22)<br>23. The Jaguars (03:03)<br>24. Ring of Fire (02:07)<br>25. Begin The Climb (01:56)<br>26. Call Out Its Name (02:23)<br>27. leaving Jumanji (03:03)<br>28. An Older Friend (02:40)<br>29. Back To School (01:53)@ds the same for desplat's victory with Budapest Hotel.Maybe. I'd sure be happy for you lot ;) And I'd definitely rather see Powell attached to a project than, say, RGW, Junkie or Desplat. <br><br>That Solo movie is going to be a disaster, though.One more thing: if indeed the reason for Powell's semi-hiatus was to be with his family as much as possible, we may well see his activity increase again in coming years now that his wife has passed away and his son is close to graduating high school (I couldn't find an exact date of birth for him but I think he's 16 or 17). Him taking on a project as big and ambitious as Star Wars isn't exactly the sign of someone who wants to take it easy. It's too early to say yet though.hans should win the oscar for best sound effects and not for the best music/score. just as a statement.
And it's also unfair to use Balfe to criticize Powell. He started working on American projects in 2005 with Batman Begins, and only after 2010 did he receive individual projects. Is it accurate to compare someone who entered the party at the last minute with two others who are in it for 20 (Powell) and 30 (Zimmer)?<br><br>I'm in a hurry and I put everything into a translator. Forgive the many mistakes.<br> <br><br><br>Composers do not need to worry about the attention, acceptance of the public of the same or the same intensity as pop music artists do. There's no need to do that. Occasionally some name draws attention to the public and causes many people to be in the genre, Williams and Zimmer are the main examples that I can bring the table. However it is not because Williams or Zimmer are extremely popular and perhaps worry about the material they are offering to the public who adores them that all the composers of the world need to do equal. Most of these men and women even enxeega as "celebrity". They are more like artisans or the rest of the crew of a film that occupies with the lights, effects and costumes and that will never have the same response from the public as the main actor. And they don't even expect it. So I think it's foolish to wait for Powell to occupy himself in 2,3 movies a year to please a fanbase.<br><br>I'll agree with you when it says it's deplorable to see CPR composers who talk so much about building a single voice and giving emerging talent the opportunity to use so many additional composers (many of them with a possible promise that in the future they will work with Zimmer and thus have the opportunity to show his face in Hollywood.The sense is almost always these.You start with a secondary composer, he arrives at Zimmer and gains some kind of notoriety). But Powell is not the only one who does this. So he should not be the only one criticized.Well...it's a film score. It has no obligation to provide a pleasant or enjoyable listening experience, and for an award like this that doesn't really come into consideration. So if it works in the film, it did its job and that's all that matters.<br><br>For me personally, as someone who cares about music first and films second, a score like Dunkirk has little value. A few years ago I probably would have been pretty mad about this score winning awards and acclaim (you should have seen how salty I got when The Social Network beat out HTTYD), but these days... *shrug*. I know what I like, Dunkirk isn't it, and that's fine. It wasn't written for me. Do I wish Hans still wrote the kind of music I like? Of course. But he gets to make his own choices as an artist, just as I get to choose what to listen to as a fan.The score is already on itunes.This score... so many mixed emotions. Does it work for the film? Heck yeah. Does it improve the film? So much so. Did Hans do what he set out to do? Totally. Is it an award winning masterpiece? Um, not so fast.<br><br>Dunkirk, while super effective within the context of the film (I wouldnít change a thing about it), I must admit, it doesnít have nearly the same effect as a stand-alone listen. Itís literally the same textures and notes over and over again, just slightly rising and falling in pitch and tempo. Does that make it ďawardĒ worthy? Iím not sure. If based solely on the film, you betcha. If based purely on the music itself, I donít think so. Thatís where Interstellar succeeds so far and away over Dunkirk. As a pure listening experience, Interstellar is interesting, multi-layered and emotional. Whereas Dunkirk is just flat, void of any sort of feeling or ďactualĒ music (again, works IN the film). Itís glorified sound FX (save for the end, which, no doubt, is in large part to Ben).<br><br>Hmm... Iíve never had a score tear me apart more than this one. I both love it and hate it. Maybe it did itís job... lol.<br><br>Excuse me while I go listen to No Time for Caution yet again.
I think most of us agree that he should've won for Interstellar but I think Dunkirk deserves it too. The work Hans and the music department did on this movie is just incredible. Must've been a lot of hard work. <br>An award is an award, Hans' 2nd Oscar is long overdue so I'd be glad to see him win. But it would be weird to see him win for THAT score, after all the greatnesses of the past 20 years. Same thing with Morricone who won his only Oscar for his very light and insignificant work on Hateful Eight. Good for the man, good for the fans, but doesn't really make sense. But have Oscars ever made sense? :-phaha hybrid :D made my dayHybrid, yes!wow man, hybrid. this isn't right from you. actually really embarrasing and an absolute no-go from a staff/member of this site to write such a comment. even if it's a joke, this is a shame and sad.
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Trevor RabinSteve JablonskyHarry Gregson-WilliamsPaul Linford
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Bad Boys II (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 133'28
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  1. Main Titles (4:19)
  2. Swamp - KKK (3:14)
  3. Swamp Shootout (1:44)
  4. Tapia (0:34)
  5. How Your Machine Works (1:08)
  6. Zoepound (0:47)
  7. Ambush - Miami Streets Chase (4:09)
  8. Intersection Shootout (2:47)
  9. Ferrari Causeway Chase (4:24)
  10. Drop Point (1:31)
  11. Whoosah (0:29)
  12. Tapia Pissed Off (1:08)
  13. Icepick (0:49)
  14. Haitian House Shootout (3:48)
  15. Camera (0:13)
  16. Watching Video (0:27)
  17. The Stuff (Part 1) (3:18)
  18. The Stuff (Part 2) (1:07)
  19. Find Out Who They Are (0:33)
  20. Wiretap Results (0:45)
  21. Ocean (1:38)
  22. A Cop Or A Model (0:21)
  23. Remember Me? (0:09)
  24. Dixie 7 (Part 1) (2:16)
  25. Dixie 7 (Part 2) (2:47)
  26. Dead Bodies (Part 1) (4:34)
  27. Dead Bodies (Part 2) (2:24)
  28. Heart To Heart (0:39)
  29. Breaking Into Mortuary (1:37)
  30. Mortuary (Part 1) (0:46)
  31. Mortuary (Part 2) (0:24)
  32. Mortuary (Part 3) (0:31)
  33. Mortuary Groove (4:41)
  34. Syd's Cover Is Blown (5:45)
  35. Tapia Has Syd (5:30)
  36. Tunnel (0:52)
  37. Prep For Tapia Sneak (3:33)
  38. Target House (5:37)
  39. Cuba Chase (3:21)
  40. Guantanamo (2:11)
  41. End Credits (Part 1) (1:01)
  42. End Credits (Part 2) (1:05)
  43. Main Titles (Alternate) (2:43)
  44. Swamp Shootout (Alternate) (1:35)
  45. Intersection Shootout (Alternate) (2:50)
  46. Ferrari Causeway Chase (Alternate) (4:37)
  47. Whoosah (Alternate) (0:29)
  48. The Stuff (Part 1) (Alternate) (3:17)
  49. The Stuff (Part 1) (Insert 1) (0:16)
  50. The Stuff (Part 1) (Insert 2) (0:14)
  51. The Stuff (Part 2) (Insert 1) (0:27)
  52. The Stuff (Part 2) (Insert 2) (0:37)
  53. Wiretap Results (Alternate I) (0:23)
  54. Wiretap Results (Alternate II) (0:24)
  55. Heart To Heart (Alternate) (0:37)
  56. Tapia Has Syd (Alternate I) (5:19)
  57. Tapia Has Syd (Alternate II) (5:26)
  58. Tapia Has Syd (Hallway Insert) (0:44)
  59. Tapia Has Syd (Helicopter Insert 1) (1:17)
  60. Tapia Has Syd (Helicopter Insert 2) (1:25)
  61. Prep For Tapia Sneak (Alternate I) (3:33)
  62. Prep For Tapia Sneak (Alternate II) (3:31)
  63. Cuba Chase (Alternate) (3:13)
  64. Guantanamo (Alternate) (2:10)
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mpolonest123 reply Replies: 6 || 2017-11-30 04:26:41
Didn't know where else to post this but if anyone is a big fan of Trevor Rabin check out some of his music for the Disney World ride 'Mission: Space'. It's a pretty cool companion to Armageddon, although nothing has been officially released unfortunately.

Here's the area suite, not the best quality but it gives you a general idea....
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mpolonest1232017-11-30 04:28:27
Main theme at 20:00.


rockhound2017-11-30 10:07:02
sounds great. the theme at the beginning and the drums are pure rabin. i love it.


Bayhem2017-11-30 13:34:24
Pretty awesome, thanks for sharing.

By the way, since we're on the BB2 page.....I finally found the film version of the badass "We ride Together, We die Together" music. That piece (the one a lot of people were looking for) was missing from the Tapia Has Syd track. Don't know why....

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rockhound2017-11-30 17:05:26
i think the second version of Tapia has Syd sounds much better, because the theme goes through the whole track and is much more intense. sadly they didn't use this.
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Bayhem2017-12-01 14:23:10
"====EDITED===="

?????


Were the YT links considered spam? Because they weren't.


Damien, Moderator2017-12-01 20:34:57
No, they were not spam.
At least one of them claims "I do not own the rights for this music". So he does something illegal despite he knows it. I did'nt look in detail to others, but none since to be related to some legal source.

Bayhem reply Replies: 4 || 2017-11-13 22:51:27
You know, a lot of people complain about the fact that Mancina was dropped from the project, along with his cues from the original movie, but if you think about it you'll see that it makes perfect sense. It makes sense why Michael and Jerry wanted a different sound. Look at the two movies: the first Bad Boys is a contained, low-budget buddy-cop action comedy. While Bad Boys 2 is literally a full-blown $130 million blockbuster movie. It's bigger and more epic in every sense of the words.

And as much as I like the themes from the original, a similar sound would not, IMO, have been appropriate for the sequel. And clearly both Michael and Jerry felt the same way. The movie itself is much "heavier" and bombastic and it makes sense that they brought in Trevor and Steve. I mean, I like Mancina a lot but Rabin is, IMO, better with those big, epic movies. And, if you're able to focus only on the second movie, without comparing its sound to the first one, you'll realize that the score is actually pretty damn good. Big, bombastic, energetic with some pretty solid emotional cues.

Yes, the Mancina score for the first one is more melodic and it absolutely deserves its cult status, but I really feel that the BB2 score is very underrated, exactly because the BB1 score is so popular and beloved. Because of that very reason some score fans simply refused to accept the Rabin/Jablonsky score, even though, as I already stated, it's actually a very effective and competent score. It fits the movie perfectly. Again, this is my opinion and I know it might be unpopular. I just think that there's more than meets the eye when it comes to the BB2 score.

P.S. Harry Gregson-Williams worked on the BB2 score?? Hmm, interesting, considering that he didn't get along with Michael while they were working on Armageddon. I guess they were able to put their differences behind them. Or maybe Gregson-Williams's involvement was not that significant....


Leonard Dante2017-11-14 03:07:53
Maybe, but my interpretation goes to another way.

Zimmer did not want to do Armageddon, Bruckheimer calls Mancina and he's busy with Tarzan.

So, ok, let's find another guy from MV.

Glennie Smith worked with Brukeheimer the same year with "Man with Iron Mask" and in 1996 with "The Rock", but the music production of the two films was troubled. We will not repeat this again.

Who will be next? Rabin and HGW.

Jablonsky was the next when Rabin and HGW lost the interest in working with Bay or otherwise.


Per2017-11-14 08:34:19
I don't think Bruckheimer had anything to do with The Man In The Iron Mask...


Bayhem2017-11-14 08:37:39
Personally, I've never heard of Bruckheimer wanting Mancina for Armageddon. Maybe I missed it...As for Zimmer, he actually did some work on Armageddon.

The Man with the Iron Mask is not a Bruckheimer production though. Nick worked on most of Bruckheimer films (as a conductor or composer), starting with Crimson Tide and Bad Boys 1. As for Rabin and Harry Gregson-Williams, I doubt they suddenly lost interest because after Armageddon and Enemy of the State they were involved in one way or another in quite a few Bruckheimer or Bay projects. Hell, Rabin was hired by Bay Films to score I Am Number Four in 2011. And I'm sure that they will work again in the future. At the end of the day, it's not unusual for a director to go from one MV/RC composer to another. Tony Scott did it, Bay did it, Antoine Fuqua did it, Ridley Scott did it.


rockhound2017-11-14 08:55:41
zimmer was in talk, maybe already hired for Enemy of the State, because i remember that i saw his name in the first trailer. but for whatever reason, rabin took over and because rabin was at the same time very busy with Jack Frost, they asked harry to help out again. this time with a co-composer credit. im sure zimmer was never in talk for Armageddon and trevor was first choice for bruckheimer, because he already scored Con Air almost alone. but because it was such a big project and bay is a complicated director, trevor got alot of help.

same with Bad Boys 2. mancina and bay had creative differences and when it was clear, that he was out, trevor took over. but as always with bay, it was a difficult task and maybe also not enough time. thats why trevor got alot of help again. Bad Boys 2 has the typical bay sound, which his movies have until this day. i would love to have an official release, because it is a great actionscore.

Darkdave reply Replies: 0 || 2016-10-13 05:54:13
We ride together we die together that track on here is on separate tracks the first part is tapia has sid but not till the end about half way and the part u need to join it with is called hallway hope this helps

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2008-03-09 00:00:00
Strange score in the way it was done...

This contains very good parts unfortunately never used in the movie (they prefered Dr Dre's "Additional Music" 0_0)... And a real complete with all what Rabin and the MV Team wrote (Jablonsky, Morris, Wesson, Duncan etc.) would be great...

And why not Mancina's rejected score too ? :-P


Grumpywinter2013-11-15 19:04:07
Where do you find this CD or download the songs I have been looking for it for years....


Damien, Moderator2013-11-15 22:22:34
As any score marked 'Bootleg' or 'Unofficial' release, you can't get this information here.

Henny reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-25 08:32:50
Not bad at all fleals and gallas. Thanks.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-20 00:00:00
we still need the RCP music from this!!!

badboys reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-09 00:00:00
it's very cool score , i like it ###

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-17 00:00:00
That Highway Chase cue is the best cue from the film... incredible that it is not one this boot. Wonder why...

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-17 00:00:00
I think it's Bad Boys Heart to Heart or Syd's cover is blown. It's on it, I'm sure of it!

And no, the highway cue is not on this version. It's in an alternate form the End Credits on DVD.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-16 00:00:00
Is the Highway Chase cue on this? That cue is on the Trevor Morris official site but don't see it here...

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-16 00:00:00
Does anyone know wich track is used in the scene where the quote "we ride together- we die together-bad boys for life" and people start gathering to help in the rescue of Marcusīs sister Syd?? I canīt find it anywhere and it does not seem that its on this soundtrack. I hear something similar but not exactly the track which is used in the movie.

Thank you..

Roman reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-12 00:00:00
Best Score EVER. I Love it :-)

fan reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-01 00:00:00
hgw make not tapia house shootout!!!
syd`s cover is blown the last 40 seconds... is reprise in this track
bad boys 2 score ist only composed from trevor rabin! additional music by steve jablonsky & paul linford! look on trevor rabin fan site!

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-20 00:00:00
"HGW's cue is the "Tapia House Shootout" at the end of the film (with the rocket launcher etc...), quite hard to hear it with the LOADS of SFX !!!! :D "

But that is the best cue from the whole film.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-20 00:00:00
Your Mancina story is right, LP...


But after Rabin came in, he had several problems too (who hasn't with Bay ? It's always a mess !!!) !

Check this bootleg, it contains at least 25 minutes not in the film ! Many things got replaced !

The "Tapia Has Syd" film version contains the beginning of the Rabin track listed here, with the end fully reworked by Jablonsky (sounding like Transformers :P) !!!

And as usual, Bay/Bruckheimer requested a lot of people to work on it ! So Jablonsky worked with his friends Trevor Morris & Clay Duncan... And HGW was asked to provide a cue, which he did with Mel Wesson & Toby Chu !

HGW's cue is the "Tapia House Shootout" at the end of the film (with the rocket launcher etc...), quite hard to hear it with the LOADS of SFX !!!! :D

LP reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-20 00:00:00
If anyone had bothered to read the liner in the Bad Boys complete score, you would found out the actual story. Mark Mancina had a meeting with Bay and Bruckheimer. Mark wanted to continue the themes and expand on the music from the first movie. Michael wanted more percussive/driving music. Mark didn't want to go with that route, so Rabin was brought in, along with Steve Jablonsky and others. Though I've never heard of Harry's involvement in the score. Can anyone verify this?

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-22 00:00:00
As far as I know Rabin and Mancina also had a disagreement.

And yeah a complete score is needed. All the action stuff is missing especially at the end when they break in Tapia's house.

Joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-21 00:00:00
Was Mancina originaly attached to this? I had no idea. Does anyone know why his score was rejected? Because his score for the first one was great!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-21 00:00:00
Mancina was indeed hired and scored it...


But then was fired by Bay... :P

klugizzle reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
i really can't understand why they didn't release a score cd for this film.

Exxon reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-23 00:00:00
Way to go! I also got my hands on the original score for Bad Boys I by Mark Mancina! It is just great to finally have the entire original score.. I have been looking for it for ages.

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