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So what happened to the credits here? It used to be a mixture of solo Atli cues with Atli/Dave Fleming, and now all three guys are credited for every track even though Tillman is only listed as a musician? Is this like with Armageddon, where the "official" credits aren't as accurate as the older ones were? :pMost of the album is comprised of suites, with one consistent tempo per track. <br><br>The material that was scored to picture was scored using the risset rhythm technique, which gave a lot of those tracks their "infinitely getting faster" feeling in the film, so the tempo is always climbing in the film versions. The suites have a stable tempo (except for a couple normal tempo changes, which are different)Not really any... "Nothing Out There" contains the sad piano theme from Begins and Dark Knight, but otherwise the themes that get reprised are pretty much Hans stuff. <br><br>Speaking of credits, any chance the complete score page could be updated with what's out there and official?Could somebody tell me in what cues JNH's themes appear on album?Thanks MIKE, Any ideas of how can I Google it?
Yeah, that cue was either a last minute rewrite or one of the music editors did it.... As for where you can find it...Google is your friend. But it's not going to be available anywhere officially.I think it will be in between NOT ORDINARY CITIZEN / THE SLOW KNIFE and IMAGINE THE FIRE, Does anybody know where can I find it?<br>I noticed that this score doesn't has the soundtrack of the part where Blake is taking the people to the bridge and he is discusing with the other police officer before he blows the bridgeThat's right, I forgot about that... And I totally agree about the score vs. the album. I had no use for this score on album at first, but now that I've watched the movie a few times, I can really hear the logic behind the score and I "get it." <br><br>I still don't get the music as heard on album, though. Are the longer pieces some early suites Hans wrote? Or did he specifically make these arrangements for the album? Do you know the answer to that one, Hybrid?I wanna say I heard the full Cat Suite somewhere... I can't remember if it was legit, but it was 15:39 and it was indeed quite repetitive. It was basically the Selina Kyle Suite from the Z+ app, along with demos of several of the Catwoman-related cues in the final score. If you've listened through the score, you've basically heard the unreleased stuff.
@Mike<br>Zimmer has said in interviews that he “mapped out” the film with one long piece of music to establish the changing tempo of the story, and apparently the script was written to capture the rhythmic feel of the film. So from the very beginning the story was always split up between the three.<br><br>I think a big part of the initial disappointment with the score was the album presentation, which gives off the impression that the music is just some sound design that Zimmer threw together (this is how I personally felt when I first gave it a listen). In actuality it’s a technically impressive score, I really can’t think of any other film score that is so synchronized with a film’s tempo and flows as one long piece of music. Apparently it was a nightmare for Hans, especially when the smallest edits to the film would ruin the flow.<br><br>Doing the 59-minute album was a pretty big disservice to the whole purpose of the music. If you remove one piece the whole thing falls apart, which is part of the reason the album feels so disjointed.Anyone here listened "The Predator" FYC score? <br>Any chance to compare tracklist and running time with official release?These versions suites haven't been officially released, but maybe you can find them somewhere around the Internet unofficially.<br><br>As for the Cat Suite, the most important parts of it can be found in "Selina Kyle" (it's a shortened version of it actually) and "Mind if I cut in?" from the OST. I remember that Hybrid once said that the 15mins Cat Suite was too repetitive, that's why a 5min only version was released, so maybe you are just fine with those two.<br>Where can I listen to the Cat Suite? Or is it literally: Selina Kyle Theme? <br>The Mole P1 (0-1:57)<br>Regimental Brothers P1 (0-1:19)<br>The Mole P2 (1:57-3:44)<br>Regimental Brothers P3 (2:44 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier<br>Supermarine P1 (0-2:47)<br>The Mole P3 (3:45 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back (again) <br>Supermarine P2 (*5:33)<br>Impulse<br>The Tide<br>Home <br>The Oil <br>Variation 15<br>End Credits <br><br>As everyone said already, the album is made up of suites that combine several cues and several "sounds" used in various places. For example, the is a sound in The Mole (At 2:05) that sounds like a fuse being ignited. This sound is actually right after The Tide in the film.<br>The only tracks that are almost identical to the film are: The Tide, Variation 15 and End Credits, the rest is different. <br><br>So if you were to order the tracks as first heard in the film it would be: <br>The Mole <br>Regimental Brothers <br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier <br>Supermarine <br>Impluse <br>The Tide <br>Home <br>The Oil<br>Variation 15<br>End credits<br><br>As much as I enjoyed listening to this release, I wish they didn't butcher the score the way they did. I like the suites but there are so many great cues in this film that weren't released. If only they released an isolated score track on Blu-ray. Listening to film extracts is just not enough.
I noticed that as well — the ticking goes all through the movie, except for the boat scenes, and only stops when they get on the train. <br><br>I wonder...could the film have originally been shot so that the beach, sea, and air sequences were there own arcs, and the longer album tracks were written for that? And then Nolan went in and turned the movie into the frenetic, constantly cutting-back-and-forth final product? <br><br>While the album is fine, I personally don't understand why we couldn't have just gotten the film cues. They might have had to stitch several together for each track, but it could have worked.Does anyone know where you can get a digital version of the Japanese versions 2 bonus tracks?Comparing it to YFM’s sfx edit this is what I’ve got;<br><br>“The Mole” seems to be an alternate of the opening sequence. The first minute or so is used, while the rest isn’t. “We Need Our Army Back/Regimental Brothers” are both made up of several cues from different points in the film. <br>“Home” is completely different in the film, which makes me think it may have been recorded specifically for the album. Similar situation with “Oil”. <br>“Supermarine” is definitely a suite. The rest is chronological.<br><br>Interesting thing to note, it seems like a lot of the tempo changes/ticking effects/bass overlays were removed from the album release, making almost every track sound different from the actual film versions. The music in context has a constant pulse going, especially in the way cues segue into each other and change tempo.It's not really possible to chronologically order the album because the album doesn't use the same tracks as the movie. Plus, the album is more or less chronological anyway, given the areas where they are the same.<br>With the complete cue sheet out now. Does anyone know what the chronological order of the album would be?
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Trevor RabinSteve JablonskyHarry Gregson-WilliamsPaul Linford
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Bad Boys II (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 133'28
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  1. Main Titles (4:19)
  2. Swamp - KKK (3:14)
  3. Swamp Shootout (1:44)
  4. Tapia (0:34)
  5. How Your Machine Works (1:08)
  6. Zoepound (0:47)
  7. Ambush - Miami Streets Chase (4:09)
  8. Intersection Shootout (2:47)
  9. Ferrari Causeway Chase (4:24)
  10. Drop Point (1:31)
  11. Whoosah (0:29)
  12. Tapia Pissed Off (1:08)
  13. Icepick (0:49)
  14. Haitian House Shootout (3:48)
  15. Camera (0:13)
  16. Watching Video (0:27)
  17. The Stuff (Part 1) (3:18)
  18. The Stuff (Part 2) (1:07)
  19. Find Out Who They Are (0:33)
  20. Wiretap Results (0:45)
  21. Ocean (1:38)
  22. A Cop Or A Model (0:21)
  23. Remember Me? (0:09)
  24. Dixie 7 (Part 1) (2:16)
  25. Dixie 7 (Part 2) (2:47)
  26. Dead Bodies (Part 1) (4:34)
  27. Dead Bodies (Part 2) (2:24)
  28. Heart To Heart (0:39)
  29. Breaking Into Mortuary (1:37)
  30. Mortuary (Part 1) (0:46)
  31. Mortuary (Part 2) (0:24)
  32. Mortuary (Part 3) (0:31)
  33. Mortuary Groove (4:41)
  34. Syd's Cover Is Blown (5:45)
  35. Tapia Has Syd (5:30)
  36. Tunnel (0:52)
  37. Prep For Tapia Sneak (3:33)
  38. Target House (5:37)
  39. Cuba Chase (3:21)
  40. Guantanamo (2:11)
  41. End Credits (Part 1) (1:01)
  42. End Credits (Part 2) (1:05)
  43. Main Titles (Alternate) (2:43)
  44. Swamp Shootout (Alternate) (1:35)
  45. Intersection Shootout (Alternate) (2:50)
  46. Ferrari Causeway Chase (Alternate) (4:37)
  47. Whoosah (Alternate) (0:29)
  48. The Stuff (Part 1) (Alternate) (3:17)
  49. The Stuff (Part 1) (Insert 1) (0:16)
  50. The Stuff (Part 1) (Insert 2) (0:14)
  51. The Stuff (Part 2) (Insert 1) (0:27)
  52. The Stuff (Part 2) (Insert 2) (0:37)
  53. Wiretap Results (Alternate I) (0:23)
  54. Wiretap Results (Alternate II) (0:24)
  55. Heart To Heart (Alternate) (0:37)
  56. Tapia Has Syd (Alternate I) (5:19)
  57. Tapia Has Syd (Alternate II) (5:26)
  58. Tapia Has Syd (Hallway Insert) (0:44)
  59. Tapia Has Syd (Helicopter Insert 1) (1:17)
  60. Tapia Has Syd (Helicopter Insert 2) (1:25)
  61. Prep For Tapia Sneak (Alternate I) (3:33)
  62. Prep For Tapia Sneak (Alternate II) (3:31)
  63. Cuba Chase (Alternate) (3:13)
  64. Guantanamo (Alternate) (2:10)
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mpolonest123 reply Replies: 6 || 2017-11-30 04:26:41
Didn't know where else to post this but if anyone is a big fan of Trevor Rabin check out some of his music for the Disney World ride 'Mission: Space'. It's a pretty cool companion to Armageddon, although nothing has been officially released unfortunately.

Here's the area suite, not the best quality but it gives you a general idea....
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mpolonest1232017-11-30 04:28:27
Main theme at 20:00.


rockhound2017-11-30 10:07:02
sounds great. the theme at the beginning and the drums are pure rabin. i love it.


Bayhem2017-11-30 13:34:24
Pretty awesome, thanks for sharing.

By the way, since we're on the BB2 page.....I finally found the film version of the badass "We ride Together, We die Together" music. That piece (the one a lot of people were looking for) was missing from the Tapia Has Syd track. Don't know why....

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rockhound2017-11-30 17:05:26
i think the second version of Tapia has Syd sounds much better, because the theme goes through the whole track and is much more intense. sadly they didn't use this.
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Bayhem2017-12-01 14:23:10
"====EDITED===="

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Were the YT links considered spam? Because they weren't.


Damien, Moderator2017-12-01 20:34:57
No, they were not spam.
At least one of them claims "I do not own the rights for this music". So he does something illegal despite he knows it. I did'nt look in detail to others, but none since to be related to some legal source.

Bayhem reply Replies: 4 || 2017-11-13 22:51:27
You know, a lot of people complain about the fact that Mancina was dropped from the project, along with his cues from the original movie, but if you think about it you'll see that it makes perfect sense. It makes sense why Michael and Jerry wanted a different sound. Look at the two movies: the first Bad Boys is a contained, low-budget buddy-cop action comedy. While Bad Boys 2 is literally a full-blown $130 million blockbuster movie. It's bigger and more epic in every sense of the words.

And as much as I like the themes from the original, a similar sound would not, IMO, have been appropriate for the sequel. And clearly both Michael and Jerry felt the same way. The movie itself is much "heavier" and bombastic and it makes sense that they brought in Trevor and Steve. I mean, I like Mancina a lot but Rabin is, IMO, better with those big, epic movies. And, if you're able to focus only on the second movie, without comparing its sound to the first one, you'll realize that the score is actually pretty damn good. Big, bombastic, energetic with some pretty solid emotional cues.

Yes, the Mancina score for the first one is more melodic and it absolutely deserves its cult status, but I really feel that the BB2 score is very underrated, exactly because the BB1 score is so popular and beloved. Because of that very reason some score fans simply refused to accept the Rabin/Jablonsky score, even though, as I already stated, it's actually a very effective and competent score. It fits the movie perfectly. Again, this is my opinion and I know it might be unpopular. I just think that there's more than meets the eye when it comes to the BB2 score.

P.S. Harry Gregson-Williams worked on the BB2 score?? Hmm, interesting, considering that he didn't get along with Michael while they were working on Armageddon. I guess they were able to put their differences behind them. Or maybe Gregson-Williams's involvement was not that significant....


Leonard Dante2017-11-14 03:07:53
Maybe, but my interpretation goes to another way.

Zimmer did not want to do Armageddon, Bruckheimer calls Mancina and he's busy with Tarzan.

So, ok, let's find another guy from MV.

Glennie Smith worked with Brukeheimer the same year with "Man with Iron Mask" and in 1996 with "The Rock", but the music production of the two films was troubled. We will not repeat this again.

Who will be next? Rabin and HGW.

Jablonsky was the next when Rabin and HGW lost the interest in working with Bay or otherwise.


Per2017-11-14 08:34:19
I don't think Bruckheimer had anything to do with The Man In The Iron Mask...


Bayhem2017-11-14 08:37:39
Personally, I've never heard of Bruckheimer wanting Mancina for Armageddon. Maybe I missed it...As for Zimmer, he actually did some work on Armageddon.

The Man with the Iron Mask is not a Bruckheimer production though. Nick worked on most of Bruckheimer films (as a conductor or composer), starting with Crimson Tide and Bad Boys 1. As for Rabin and Harry Gregson-Williams, I doubt they suddenly lost interest because after Armageddon and Enemy of the State they were involved in one way or another in quite a few Bruckheimer or Bay projects. Hell, Rabin was hired by Bay Films to score I Am Number Four in 2011. And I'm sure that they will work again in the future. At the end of the day, it's not unusual for a director to go from one MV/RC composer to another. Tony Scott did it, Bay did it, Antoine Fuqua did it, Ridley Scott did it.


rockhound2017-11-14 08:55:41
zimmer was in talk, maybe already hired for Enemy of the State, because i remember that i saw his name in the first trailer. but for whatever reason, rabin took over and because rabin was at the same time very busy with Jack Frost, they asked harry to help out again. this time with a co-composer credit. im sure zimmer was never in talk for Armageddon and trevor was first choice for bruckheimer, because he already scored Con Air almost alone. but because it was such a big project and bay is a complicated director, trevor got alot of help.

same with Bad Boys 2. mancina and bay had creative differences and when it was clear, that he was out, trevor took over. but as always with bay, it was a difficult task and maybe also not enough time. thats why trevor got alot of help again. Bad Boys 2 has the typical bay sound, which his movies have until this day. i would love to have an official release, because it is a great actionscore.

Darkdave reply Replies: 0 || 2016-10-13 05:54:13
We ride together we die together that track on here is on separate tracks the first part is tapia has sid but not till the end about half way and the part u need to join it with is called hallway hope this helps

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2008-03-09 00:00:00
Strange score in the way it was done...

This contains very good parts unfortunately never used in the movie (they prefered Dr Dre's "Additional Music" 0_0)... And a real complete with all what Rabin and the MV Team wrote (Jablonsky, Morris, Wesson, Duncan etc.) would be great...

And why not Mancina's rejected score too ? :-P


Grumpywinter2013-11-15 19:04:07
Where do you find this CD or download the songs I have been looking for it for years....


Damien, Moderator2013-11-15 22:22:34
As any score marked 'Bootleg' or 'Unofficial' release, you can't get this information here.

Henny reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-25 08:32:50
Not bad at all fleals and gallas. Thanks.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-20 00:00:00
we still need the RCP music from this!!!

badboys reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-09 00:00:00
it's very cool score , i like it ###

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-17 00:00:00
That Highway Chase cue is the best cue from the film... incredible that it is not one this boot. Wonder why...

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-17 00:00:00
I think it's Bad Boys Heart to Heart or Syd's cover is blown. It's on it, I'm sure of it!

And no, the highway cue is not on this version. It's in an alternate form the End Credits on DVD.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-16 00:00:00
Is the Highway Chase cue on this? That cue is on the Trevor Morris official site but don't see it here...

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-16 00:00:00
Does anyone know wich track is used in the scene where the quote "we ride together- we die together-bad boys for life" and people start gathering to help in the rescue of Marcus´s sister Syd?? I can´t find it anywhere and it does not seem that its on this soundtrack. I hear something similar but not exactly the track which is used in the movie.

Thank you..

Roman reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-12 00:00:00
Best Score EVER. I Love it :-)

fan reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-01 00:00:00
hgw make not tapia house shootout!!!
syd`s cover is blown the last 40 seconds... is reprise in this track
bad boys 2 score ist only composed from trevor rabin! additional music by steve jablonsky & paul linford! look on trevor rabin fan site!

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-20 00:00:00
"HGW's cue is the "Tapia House Shootout" at the end of the film (with the rocket launcher etc...), quite hard to hear it with the LOADS of SFX !!!! :D "

But that is the best cue from the whole film.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-20 00:00:00
Your Mancina story is right, LP...


But after Rabin came in, he had several problems too (who hasn't with Bay ? It's always a mess !!!) !

Check this bootleg, it contains at least 25 minutes not in the film ! Many things got replaced !

The "Tapia Has Syd" film version contains the beginning of the Rabin track listed here, with the end fully reworked by Jablonsky (sounding like Transformers :P) !!!

And as usual, Bay/Bruckheimer requested a lot of people to work on it ! So Jablonsky worked with his friends Trevor Morris & Clay Duncan... And HGW was asked to provide a cue, which he did with Mel Wesson & Toby Chu !

HGW's cue is the "Tapia House Shootout" at the end of the film (with the rocket launcher etc...), quite hard to hear it with the LOADS of SFX !!!! :D

LP reply Replies: 0 || 2009-11-20 00:00:00
If anyone had bothered to read the liner in the Bad Boys complete score, you would found out the actual story. Mark Mancina had a meeting with Bay and Bruckheimer. Mark wanted to continue the themes and expand on the music from the first movie. Michael wanted more percussive/driving music. Mark didn't want to go with that route, so Rabin was brought in, along with Steve Jablonsky and others. Though I've never heard of Harry's involvement in the score. Can anyone verify this?

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-22 00:00:00
As far as I know Rabin and Mancina also had a disagreement.

And yeah a complete score is needed. All the action stuff is missing especially at the end when they break in Tapia's house.

Joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-21 00:00:00
Was Mancina originaly attached to this? I had no idea. Does anyone know why his score was rejected? Because his score for the first one was great!

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Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2009-03-21 00:00:00
Mancina was indeed hired and scored it...


But then was fired by Bay... :P

klugizzle reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
i really can't understand why they didn't release a score cd for this film.

Exxon reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-23 00:00:00
Way to go! I also got my hands on the original score for Bad Boys I by Mark Mancina! It is just great to finally have the entire original score.. I have been looking for it for ages.

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