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@Bob<br><br>Thank you for the enlightment, I will consider opening my wrists for misconduct in the next few days, thank you very much... :o<br><br><br><br>Ok seriously though, you guys should know that if there's one guy that could not care less about awards... it's Hans... :)I am really enjoying his season of the Crown.a big balfe influence in this season with hints of Churchil and Genius I think. Really excellent music/ it's me@ds "Ramin is also doing a lot of projects but is far, far behind in terms of styles and creativity."<br> <br>I think the same for Jablonsky, Zanelli, XL, Jackman and Mancina.@macejko<br><br>"All the time he acts like the hottest shit in town, refusing to score basically everything they offer him"<br><br>You said in another comment that you never read an interview with Powell, so not reason you take that kind of conclusion of your character.<br><br>"The man hides in a cave, doesn't evolve at all and for some mysterious reason he is still revered like a second coming of Jesus Christ."<br>Powell is a clearly talented composer. He suffered criticism at the beginning of his career by sounding like Zimmer, but soon showed substance. And much more than that created an identifiable style, which today is reference to other scores of modern animations (which may be good or bad to depend on of the point of view).<br>Today he is an established composer and it is common for these composers to move away for a few years or even close their careers without many explanations for the public. In recent years we watched the estrangement of Silvestri, Horner, Williams and in the past we saw Faltemeyer, Bill Conti and Brad Fiedel drop their careers when they were at the top of the game.<br><br>" Say anything you will about Lorne Balfe, but at least he is working his ass off and slowly getting better and better"<br><br>As they said in another comment, you're compared to newbies and veterans. Balfe's having the opportunity of his life now. Take it or leave it. There's no choice. Powell, as well as Zimmer others, on the other hand, is a "senior member" of the club. He can afford to go away for a few years to resolve comprehensible personal problems without affecting the hard work he has developed in the last 20 years. Will Balfe continue to be so creative in 10 or 15 years?<br><br>@ds<br><br>"<br>Powell has nothing to prove, he has already mastered all genres"<br><br>That's funny, but it's fair. Powell Is a good composer. Not the best, far from it. Your style really narrows your work down, but we can say that from all the composers out there. So it's not a problem.The problem is he wants to limit his work to animations and fantasy.because he abhors gratuitous violence.<br><br>@george<br><br>". Although, I hate to say it, we could say the same for Zimmer in my opinion"<br><br>Zimmer's at the end of his career. All the other composers when they arrived at 60 years (with the exception of JNH, Goldsmith and Morricone) reduced the amount of projects per year and went on to choose their work best. It's a natural way.Over the years, it tends to get worse with one exception here and there. Don't keep expectations like he's in his prime<br><br>"he has "nothing more to prove", he is creatively dead."<br><br><br>Powell will work with a little more frequently in the coming years (or not) that only depends on his ambitions. However, frankly, he's never going to do three again. 4.5. 6 projects in a year. It takes a lot of motivation for that.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
Just listened to the whole thing, kind of a let down. Nothing interessting except for some action moments. Donít even recall hearing some sort of theme. Overall it was like listening to Cars 4: Spanish World Cup.I have already listened to The Jumanji Overture and I must say it sounds really great. Let's see how the rest of the score sounds.Tracklist with track duration:<br>01. The Jumanji Overture (03:20)<br>02. Digging Up The Past (01:43)<br>03. Brantfort High (01:09)<br>04. Into The Jungle (01:23)<br>05. Out of Character (02:31)<br>06. The Legend of the Jewel (02:23)<br>07. The Adventure Begins (01:40)<br>08. Special Abilities (01:16)<br>09. The Bikers (03:44)<br>10. Van Pelt (01:00)<br>11. A Test Of Friendship (01:22)<br>12. The Bazaar (01:16)<br>13. Snake Charmer (03:41)<br>14. The Power of Bravestone (01:04)<br>15. Seaplane McDonough (02:17)<br>16. The Missing Piece (01:46)<br>17. Lost In Time (01:18)<br>18. Flirting With Danger (01:36)<br>19. Albino Rhinos (03:44)<br>20. Retrieving the Emerald (01:54)<br>21. Out of Lives (01:49)<br>22. First Kiss (01:22)<br>23. The Jaguars (03:03)<br>24. Ring of Fire (02:07)<br>25. Begin The Climb (01:56)<br>26. Call Out Its Name (02:23)<br>27. leaving Jumanji (03:03)<br>28. An Older Friend (02:40)<br>29. Back To School (01:53)@ds the same for desplat's victory with Budapest Hotel.Maybe. I'd sure be happy for you lot ;) And I'd definitely rather see Powell attached to a project than, say, RGW, Junkie or Desplat. <br><br>That Solo movie is going to be a disaster, though.
One more thing: if indeed the reason for Powell's semi-hiatus was to be with his family as much as possible, we may well see his activity increase again in coming years now that his wife has passed away and his son is close to graduating high school (I couldn't find an exact date of birth for him but I think he's 16 or 17). Him taking on a project as big and ambitious as Star Wars isn't exactly the sign of someone who wants to take it easy. It's too early to say yet though.hans should win the oscar for best sound effects and not for the best music/score. just as a statement.And it's also unfair to use Balfe to criticize Powell. He started working on American projects in 2005 with Batman Begins, and only after 2010 did he receive individual projects. Is it accurate to compare someone who entered the party at the last minute with two others who are in it for 20 (Powell) and 30 (Zimmer)?<br><br>I'm in a hurry and I put everything into a translator. Forgive the many mistakes.<br> <br><br><br>Composers do not need to worry about the attention, acceptance of the public of the same or the same intensity as pop music artists do. There's no need to do that. Occasionally some name draws attention to the public and causes many people to be in the genre, Williams and Zimmer are the main examples that I can bring the table. However it is not because Williams or Zimmer are extremely popular and perhaps worry about the material they are offering to the public who adores them that all the composers of the world need to do equal. Most of these men and women even enxeega as "celebrity". They are more like artisans or the rest of the crew of a film that occupies with the lights, effects and costumes and that will never have the same response from the public as the main actor. And they don't even expect it. So I think it's foolish to wait for Powell to occupy himself in 2,3 movies a year to please a fanbase.<br><br>I'll agree with you when it says it's deplorable to see CPR composers who talk so much about building a single voice and giving emerging talent the opportunity to use so many additional composers (many of them with a possible promise that in the future they will work with Zimmer and thus have the opportunity to show his face in Hollywood.The sense is almost always these.You start with a secondary composer, he arrives at Zimmer and gains some kind of notoriety). But Powell is not the only one who does this. So he should not be the only one criticized.Well...it's a film score. It has no obligation to provide a pleasant or enjoyable listening experience, and for an award like this that doesn't really come into consideration. So if it works in the film, it did its job and that's all that matters.<br><br>For me personally, as someone who cares about music first and films second, a score like Dunkirk has little value. A few years ago I probably would have been pretty mad about this score winning awards and acclaim (you should have seen how salty I got when The Social Network beat out HTTYD), but these days... *shrug*. I know what I like, Dunkirk isn't it, and that's fine. It wasn't written for me. Do I wish Hans still wrote the kind of music I like? Of course. But he gets to make his own choices as an artist, just as I get to choose what to listen to as a fan.
The score is already on itunes.This score... so many mixed emotions. Does it work for the film? Heck yeah. Does it improve the film? So much so. Did Hans do what he set out to do? Totally. Is it an award winning masterpiece? Um, not so fast.<br><br>Dunkirk, while super effective within the context of the film (I wouldnít change a thing about it), I must admit, it doesnít have nearly the same effect as a stand-alone listen. Itís literally the same textures and notes over and over again, just slightly rising and falling in pitch and tempo. Does that make it ďawardĒ worthy? Iím not sure. If based solely on the film, you betcha. If based purely on the music itself, I donít think so. Thatís where Interstellar succeeds so far and away over Dunkirk. As a pure listening experience, Interstellar is interesting, multi-layered and emotional. Whereas Dunkirk is just flat, void of any sort of feeling or ďactualĒ music (again, works IN the film). Itís glorified sound FX (save for the end, which, no doubt, is in large part to Ben).<br><br>Hmm... Iíve never had a score tear me apart more than this one. I both love it and hate it. Maybe it did itís job... lol.<br><br>Excuse me while I go listen to No Time for Caution yet again.I think most of us agree that he should've won for Interstellar but I think Dunkirk deserves it too. The work Hans and the music department did on this movie is just incredible. Must've been a lot of hard work. <br>An award is an award, Hans' 2nd Oscar is long overdue so I'd be glad to see him win. But it would be weird to see him win for THAT score, after all the greatnesses of the past 20 years. Same thing with Morricone who won his only Oscar for his very light and insignificant work on Hateful Eight. Good for the man, good for the fans, but doesn't really make sense. But have Oscars ever made sense? :-phaha hybrid :D made my day
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Hans ZimmerJames Newton HowardLorne BalfeHenry Jackman
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The Dark Knight
Label: Warner Bros. Records
Length: 73'24
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  1. Why So Serious? (9:14)
  2. I'm Not A Hero (6:34)
  3. Harvey Two-Face (6:16)
  4. Aggressive Expansion (4:35)
  5. Always A Catch (1:39)
  6. Blood On My Hands (2:16)
  7. A Little Push (2:42)
  8. Like A Dog Chasing Cars (5:02)
  9. I Am The Batman (1:59)
  10. And I Thought My Jokes Were Bad (2:28)
  11. Agent Of Chaos (6:55)
  12. Introduce A Little Anarchy (3:42)
  13. Watch The World Burn (3:47)
  14. A Dark Knight (16:15)
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Warheart reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-22 00:00:00
The Lion King is Zimmers best.

warheart reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-22 00:00:00
I love Zimmers work. I listen to the Pirates of the Caribbean scores religiously.

CHRIS PAPPAS reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-21 00:00:00
What is the difference between the limited edition and special edition soundtrack for the film, and will we see a complete score in the future?

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-21 00:00:00
You know, these clips act as spoilers for me. So I guess I'll abstain till I get the actual soundtrack in my hands and then spend a day relishing it! :D

A Sentient Being reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-20 00:00:00
I believe the Joker's one-note motif is that rising note heard in "Why So Serious"?

mojo reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-20 00:00:00
This is a very promising score. Thanks for that url. The samples on exlibris.ch are amazing! The most promising cues are Agent Of Chaos, Aggressive Expansion, and I Am The Batman. Agent Of Chaos uses the cue at the end of the End Credits Suite from the first Batman movie. Go to about 3 and 15 seconds left in the piece and that is the cue I'm talking about. Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard are going to deliver on this one. And the theme, or rather, the one note motif for The Joker will send chills up your spine! Amazing music; I can't wait for this one!

Maagkat reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-20 00:00:00
Why So Serious (probably the one note motif) sounds a lot like the Hannibal score. Wich is a good thing. The 15th of July is still so far away!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-20 00:00:00
One note motif???

WTF is one note motif?

The smallest musical motif consists of two notes!

A Sentient Being reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-20 00:00:00
Thanks for the link!

Totally amazing! Zimmer and Newton-Howard are using the old themes, and yet The Dark Knight will be loaded with bunch of new ones!

Outstanding!

johnny reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-20 00:00:00
The one note motif is heard in the first track, which i think is also the bank heist scene...not sure though. I dont know if the one note thing is a perfect motif for him, but i guess depending on how Zimmer layers it it'll take on a life of its own...

i heard the samples though and DID hear alot of rehash themes from the previous soundtrack...Supposedly they wrote over 2 hours of music....Last thing I wanna hear is the same cues from the previous soundtrack on here...

Deakins reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-20 00:00:00
Hybrid, you're not objective! :D (for thunderbirds)
I like the work who has been done on Batman Begins but this isn't the best that a duo like Zimmer and Newton Howard can do!
Listening the samples (and it's an extract maybe not representative of the ensemble), i don't find a real surprise, a big theme (hum.. maybe in the last track??).
For me, it's a copy-paste from the prequel with two three years of maturity of the themes. And it's over! But I hope I miss!

ZED reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-20 00:00:00
Ok i think everyone needs to just chill out and wait to hear the score for The Dark Knight before making any comments. I'm sure it will be great and i can't wait for it, but i'm not going to critique it on 30second clips.. C'mon guys and girls, your all starting to make this site annoying to visit! Everyone needs to just enjoy with their ears and let go a bit! People here are starting to leave comments as stupid as the ones you see on filmtracks.com. Please people... learn to just enjoy music, love or hate it, but don't spend your spare time talking about the technical points. It takes the fun out of listening to music. Peace to you all! :)

joe reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-20 00:00:00
I don't know what a one-motif is because like one of the previous posters said "the smallest musical motif consists of two notes." It will be interesting to see how Mr. Zimmer uses this "one note" in different ways. I can't wait until July 15th.

Mark reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-19 00:00:00
I cant wait for this. Zimmer and Howard are two of the very best.

A Sentient Being reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-19 00:00:00
>>The Dark Knight is also on cineguigui.skyblog.com<<

This should not serve as an advertising place!

And besides, the site is not special at all!

So, keep out!

A Sentieng Being reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-19 00:00:00
We are still waiting for samples!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go to see this excellent site quickly !!! reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-19 00:00:00
The Dark Knight is also on cineguigui.skyblog.com

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-19 00:00:00
there are many samples on : exlibris.ch
just write dark knight in the research ;)

Deakins reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-18 00:00:00
Because Zimmer does fantastic Album everytime! ^_^

Hum.. I'm a huge fan of hans and no.. hans doesn't always good scores. Example, Thunderbirds. :)
And more, Batman Begins, even if it's an efficient and a powerful score, the result isn't the best that you can wait of hans zimmer and james newton howard!
I'm decepteid by the approach taken in "Dark Knight". It seems a dark score, very dark, too dark? Batman isn't a hero?? Bad new!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-18 00:00:00
Thunderbirds isn't a Zimmer score, he just wrote the main themes...


And... I love Thunderbirds... Junior Mission is an amazing track... :D

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-18 00:00:00
I was wondering what's the difference betwen the standard and the limited edition of this soundtrack??

Sylvos reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-18 00:00:00
A different cover and packaging.

ema reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-17 00:00:00
I want to listen it the samples of all list

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-17 00:00:00
were you hear the cd ...please

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-17 00:00:00
"The point is to make more money :)"

Won't they make more money if they include only four bonus tracks on each release so finally combining we get a nearly complete score? :D

Deakins reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-17 00:00:00
I don't understand why people vote for the release then this one isn't yet released.. Fans are very troubled guys..

Falconet reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-17 00:00:00
Because Zimmer does fantastic Album everytime! ^_^

gno reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-17 00:00:00
can't wait for this one :)

joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-17 00:00:00
There are track samples at superherohype.com!!!!!!

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