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Olive, if you think Brothers In Arms is nothing more than a RCP power anthem, then you're obviously missing something... To me it's one of the most brilliant action tracks of the last few years.Ola team ! <br>Maybe you do know Joe Kramer won't return to score Mission Impossible 6. And no one seems to know who will.<br>So here's my question : any chance to see someone from RC doing this ? <br><br>Thanks for reading me. Keep goin' your good job here, it's appreciated. :)<br>Wow. Pretty solid! It keeps the core track intact and, somehow, adds even more raw power into it. Thanks for sharing!@MrZimmerFan<br><br><Is better because there is variety and orchestration><br><br>It is not because a score is orchestrated that it is automatically superior to one half orchestrated and half electronic. My problem with JL is that it's a small score for a composer with as many facets as Elfman. The music is uninspired and (taking one or another track) ends as it begins, nothing catches yours ears beyond of the romantic moments and of the new interpretations of the themes for the heroes.<br><br>@mpolonest<br><br><I actually love that score, but I think the main issue is Elfman completely ignoring what came before and trying to force the classic themes.><br><br>Elfman had two paths: Ignore everything and do things his way or respect what Zimmer did and maintain the sound of previous films. What did he do? He made an uninspiring hybrid of both.<br><br>@HybridSoldier<br><br><Leagues above, and yet I doubt Ben will be able to write something like "Brothers In Arms" from Mad Max.><br><br>Everyone in RCP knows how to do a power anthem these days.<br><br>@Mephariel<br><br><I would not have gotten a chance to work on blockbuster films like Dunkirk, Blade Runner 2049 without Zimmer's influence.><br><br>Obviously not. It could be in smaller jobs and present some potential for years to come.<br>I think I just sharted myself. Thanks!
I'm surprised to have not seen more discussion of this score; I honestly think it represents some of the best music out of RCP in the past half-decade. Yeah, it still has the Journey to the Line / Time four-chord power anthem thing going on, but outside of those themes you have some really creative material that at times doesn't even feel stylistically RCP, and hell, even those structurally-simplistic themes are unusually well-orchestrated. And there's a real orchestra!Some of you may like this guy's cover of Brothers in Arms! Pretty epic, honestly. <br><br> com/watch?v=LCIY41hopq4This score has improved my mood on more than one occasion. Nancy Meyers needs to make another movie, so Hans can score it. lol.Hello great team of Hans Zimmer,<br><br>I was recently listening to "The Might of Rome" (Gladiator soundtrack) and I am craving to listen the long version of the piece around 2:38 - 2:48 (something like an oriental flute). Does it exist as a standalone composition? Is it inspired from some third party artist, if yes, can you please tell my which one?<br><br>Thanks!@Olive<br><br>Wallfisch's career unquestionably benefited from his involvement with Zimmer. He wouldn't have gotten a chance to work on blockbuster films like Dunkirk, Blade Runner 2049 without Zimmer's influence. Wallfisch is a very talented composer, but let's be honest here, his music doesn't immediately strikes anyone as a big action guy. Having Zimmer's name pushing you helps.
Hybrid, what do you admire more: Black Hawk Down or Tears of the Sun?"Elfman's score is like Whedon, horrendous & out of place."<br><br>Out of place, yes. Horrendous, no.Leagues above, and yet I doubt Ben will ever be able to write something like "Brothers In Arms" from Mad Max.<br><br>Comparing people is kinda useless...<br><br>The only who's right is Hans in the end, he knows when to use one and when to use the other... ;)@Edmund<br>Iím in the same boat. When I watch a movie I normally donít pay attention to the music unless itís really distinctive. As a stand alone listening experience I usually want to get music that fits a mood and can hold my interest throughout. Take Silvestriís Avengers score for example. The big statements of the main theme and some of the action cues are excellent. Unfortunately itís surrounded by generic underscore that slows the album down imo. But then you have TASM2, which constantly has something going on no matter what. I feel like thatís something which does relate to the directors, not so much the talent level of the composers.<br><br>@olive<br>Ben Wallfisch is LEAGUES ahead of JXL as a composer, partly because heís had years of experience in film composing. Hopefully his recent successes give him more high profile projects.<br><br>As for Justice League, I actually love that score, but I think the main issue is Elfman completely ignoring what came before and trying to force in the classic themes. Had he done his own spin on Zimmerís material there would a better connection to the previous ones.Elfman's score is like Whedon, horrendous & out of place.
@Olive: Is better because there is variety and orchestration, and i'm not a purist (i liked BvS, there is more complexity in it than in MoS), but Danny Elfman has more integrity in that score than in that two scores.He did!<br><br>The action material in "Do You Bleed?" is by XL! <br>Wallfisch has shown himself to be a superior composer to XL, let's face it. I do not even see why he's running after Zimmer since he's able to run a career himself.<br><br>@TheZimmerFan <br><br><But the score by Elfman is miles better than MoS and BvS (for those two, BvS is much interesting and better than MoS, which is only good)><br><br><br>The music is less simplistic and may please the purists, but, no, MoS and BvS are better by a small margin than JL by one factor: thematic material and characterization of the movie.  Elfman should have had more freedom to work on the themes he and Williams wrote.<br>It's a half-truth to everyone who makes up the RCP team, unfortunately. <br><br>But I honestly doubt that ANYONE wants to work with XL.<br><br>Snyder worked with him 3 times. 300, BvS and Man of Steel. Sometimes I even get the impression that he's always liked Tom's approach more than Zimmer's approach. See all the percussion and synths of all those scores that are far more present in the Xl field than Zimmer's.Got this today..well not my music type so pass it...

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The Dark Knight
Label: Warner Bros. Records
Length: 73'24 rating:        4/5
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  1. Why So Serious? (9:14)
  2. I'm Not A Hero (6:34)
  3. Harvey Two-Face (6:16)
  4. Aggressive Expansion (4:35)
  5. Always A Catch (1:39)
  6. Blood On My Hands (2:16)
  7. A Little Push (2:42)
  8. Like A Dog Chasing Cars (5:02)
  9. I Am The Batman (1:59)
  10. And I Thought My Jokes Were Bad (2:28)
  11. Agent Of Chaos (6:55)
  12. Introduce A Little Anarchy (3:42)
  13. Watch The World Burn (3:47)
  14. A Dark Knight (16:15)
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emily reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-20 00:00:00
ok im just wondering which song is it when batman is in hong kong catching lau? im not sure which one it is? please let me know thanks.
dark knight was amazing. ive seen it 3 times. thursday at midnight friday evening and saturday evening. i love it!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-20 00:00:00
I think that is I'm not a hero

From North Africa reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-20 00:00:00
Congratulations Mr.Zimmer & Mr.Howard You've Composed The #1 Movie From The Top 250 IMDB This is What The Movie Deserve and What You Deserve Too I'm Soooooooo Happy That The Dark Knight is #1 :) :) :)

coburnbatman reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard seriously deserve an award for the movie. I too enjoy listening to it. Especially when im on the road. Hands down, Zimmer is my favorite composer of all time. He and i are both German. Like that has to do with anything. IDK. The "End Credits" from Batman Begins i have and love. All I gotta do now is get The Dark Knight "End Credits" and i'll be happy!

Ratheesh reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
Thanks for tracks!!

Max reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
Im also looking for the song playing in Dark knight's trailer + credits

thx in advance

josh reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
For almost 30 years he gave us the most kitch, all american cheasy empty easy theme music ever. He even steal from other composer, for exemple Gustav Holst, Mars from The Planets for gladiator. And now with this Dark Knight, nothing interesting, nothing new, the score is almost the same as Batman begins. I am a big fan of Batman since I was young and this boring music makes me angry ! I prefer the Elfman score from the original Batman, 1000000 times better.

From North Africa reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
Hi Roy you can find it in batman begins original score the of the song is ''Molossus'' Or in the expanded score of batman begins too in The ''End Credits'' of begins and because you've heard it in The Dark Knight there are 3 other releases of the dark knight score coming soon i heard i think it will be there but you can find in batman begins score the Original in ''Molossus'' and the Expanded In The End Credits

Now I haven't seen the dark knight yet because it hasn't released yet in my country and i have a question the song you're talking about played in the dark knight in some scenes?????????

bruceV reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
A Sentient Being, you got me first!! I couldnít agree more with what youĎve said in your last post. I was about to post something here too, after seeing the movie..

Well, maybe the guys that posted an answer to what Iíve said earlier are right and I was overzealous/ passionate.. /Apologizes for that.

After seeing the movie yesterday Iíd like to add something that you are probably aware of already: THE MUSIC OF Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard FITS LIKE A GLOVE to the Picture of THE DARK KNIGHT.

As for the other subject, you people Sascha and KEN s., perhaps you (think you) have such a strong name as John Williams, Ennio Morricone, Howard Shore or anyone else music composer of our time, that you can criticise and judge Hans Zimmerís and James Newton Howardís decisions and work?? Who are you people really? Tell us, so that we recognise you publicly and then you CAN have your opinion HEARD and written.. Maybe then you will compose YOUR OWN themes and the ONES you prefer to what H.Z. and J.N.H. have done here.

Until then, maybe you should KEEP your PERSONAL opinion on Hans Zimmerís WORK for YOURSELVES..

Because there are a few of us who believe that if thereís something out there in the world that we donít like, then the first thing that should be changed would be our stance / OURSELVES ...

Greetings!!! : - )

* And by the way, RemoteDead6 you are completely out of the subject... Maybe itís not A Sentient Being who is an idiot, but someone else...

You are right about what you said on Beethovenís being deaf, BUT was Beethoven BLIND or incapable to READ too???.....

Max reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
From North Africa :

I have seen the movie 2 times in 24h (yeah thats how good it is my friend) and I recall enjoying that song of some very similar variation of that song during several action scenes.

Hope you can enjoy Heath Ledger's Joker as soon as possible.

From North Africa reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
I Really Can't Wait Max Until This Movie Release In My Country 23 July I'm So Sad That Heath Has Gone I Loved him Sooooo Much We Lost The Best Actor EVER My Friend I Hope He Gets Oscar For His Rule This Movie Is My Favorite Movie EVER Before I EVEN See It & Heath's Performance Is The Greatest Performance EVER May God Rest His Soul :(
I Hope He was Still with us to See How AMAZING He Was
ICan't Wait I Can't Stand The Wait I Feel Torture From Waiting I Can't Wait Anymore

I Cry Everytime I Hear Track 14 A Dark Knight Absolutely Brilliant Soooooo Emotional

Cameron reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
Zimmer: Nothing he does seems to be special to him. He seems to have no sense of occasion (which is weird because he's German and lived in England for a long time). He treats everything the same. For god's sake, his action music for the Dark Knight is almost the same as The Peacemaker.

He knew this was going to be a special film and yet he brought nothing special to the table. No great themes. Nothing. Just a vascillating 4-note figure that can only be the musical representation of Bruce Wayne/Batman's singularity of purpose and focus and a siren-like motif in the brass that can be a "help is on the way" idea.

Really I think old Hans has actually just composed himself out and may never have anything fresh to say again (that, of course, if your argument states he ever had anything fresh to say in the first place).

PJ2 reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
I can't wait the movie, but here in France it realises August the 13th!!! It's torture!!!!!!

A Sentient Being reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
bruceV, thank you so much for your support! You got the words out of my mouth regarding RemoteDead 6's post. He missed my point entirely!

Truly, guys, we may love it or hate it, but it sure does not mean it's bad.

Here, in Serbia, The Dark Knight has its premiere on July 23. I'm gonna eat my shorts (and everything that's in it) until then!!! Hopefully, my copy of TDK score arrives from on 22nd!



Geoffrey reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
August the 13TH in france? in belgium it's july the 23th ...weird.

From North Africa reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
Hi Roy Which end credits do you mean the end credits of the dark knight or batman begins???

is the music that in the trailer of The Dark Knight in the end credits of The Dark Knight??????

bruceV reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00

I suppose, Sascha, (who you are a big fan of H.Z.) you are angry - about the soundtrack of The Dark Knight, is that so??

Well, since I consider myself too as a Ďfaní of H.Z. and his music, Iíd like to state a little something here tooÖ

First of all, Sascha, would it be possible to indicate to me how many of these people that post a comment here are Ďangryí with the soundtrack of The Dark Knight?...

Furthermore Ė and most important Ė is my second question to you AND to ALL of those Ďso calledí fans and big lovers and collectors of H.Z. music:
Beyond those comments of yours about this particular music (The Dark Knight) is there anything hiding?? I mean did you HAVE to pay (a lot of money) or had you been paid to criticize Hans Zimmerís music and NOW WITH THIS SOUNDTRACK all of these stop to function and make your life so miserable that you caní stand, despite the fact that you are a fan of H.Z. and judge his choices in this way??..
Because if it is so, you could simply stop hearing to this (insulting) soundtrack, TOSS IT AWAY and never buy a H.Z. soundtrack in your life againÖ.

To sum up my comment Iíd like to ask you Sascha and all of those people I mentioned before: Do you REALLY think you NEED to pay/ get/ hear to this soundtrack?? Or else something really serious will happen?....

I think there is still freedom of choice and thereís not an obligation to hear this PARTICULAR CD!!!!! If you donít like it for some reason go on and hear anything else and donít criticize the work that has been done here.

Greetings to ALL HANS ZIMMER and his Music fans!!!! : - )

Sascha reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
I'm a big fan of H.Z.
But like everybody here i'm angry.

Roy reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
hey great track but I am looking for the music in the trailers and also in the End credits of the movie.

Anyone has an idea which track that is?

Renan reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
Zimmer and Howard talked a lot about that THEME in many interviews...

I was really expecting something really Howard keep saying "Zimmer wrote a wonderful big theme...". But it seems that the THEME wasn't used in this score.

At least I couldnt find it.

There has been, indeed, some evolution in Batman's Two Note Motif. In track 2, there is a Bass/Cello line added to the main Motif. Its very beatiful, emotional and touching. But it doesnt really made any difference. It worked more as a fulfilling line.

Someone said that track 8 "Like a Dog Chasing Cars" featured the THEME. Thats not true, what we have at track 8 is Variations on Track 2 (I'm not a Hero) motifs and "themes". The opening for track 8 is a motif very similar to what we heard at 44 seconds on track 2, but now its fast-paced and harmony is more tense.

For the Joker theme, come on! We cant even say its a theme. There is no such thing as an "One note" theme. Its a motif...nothing but that.

I loved the score, thats true. Its a masterpiece, on its own purposes. But there are definitely many flaws.

Steve reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
I don't like it. The joker theme is the worst. The rest is just reprise of the "molossus" theme from batman begins... Very disappointing.

Sascha reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
sorry for my bad english.
Angry i meen disappointed
what track plays first in intro on this site???

Sascha reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
I dont care about his ways. He makes music for maney and for as and he must do it well,but this score is bullshit. I think time of Mr. H.Z have past. ########

KEN s. reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
I like this Batman Dark Knight soundtrack, but only the hero theme song (Like a dog chasing cars and Introduce a little anarchy).

But somehow I think H.Z. work is not as good as before. I'm a big fan, but I think Pirates of the Caribbean 1,2 (not 3), Gladiator is a lot better than his latest work.

Just a note, I don't agree that "if i don't like his work, don't buy and stop listen" I think if I'm H.Z. I will listen to the angry people, try to find the problem and fix it, rather than listen to the big fan that always say "H.Z. is the best composer in the world" He will have no improvement, if he don't listen to comments

From Noth Africa reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
Am i the only one who think that this soundtrack is a MASTERPIECE I've heard every single soundtrack for Mr.Zimmer and He has never disappointed me in any score this guy is angle i think he is the King Of Music
This Score is The Most Emotional Score EVER have you listened to A Dark Knight The Track 14 Its BRILLIANT

Thank You Mr.Zimmer For Your All Music You Are The King Of Kings

roy reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
hey from north africa

the end credits of dark knight.

Brian reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
I believe this soundtrack is the finest music ever to grace a film screen. It's brilliance, with the brilliance of a solid script, and solid acting makes this film the ultimate movie going experience. Mr. Zimmer, and Mr. Howard have outdone themselves. Bravo, Maestro's. Genius!!!!!!

A Sentient Being reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
Now, again, for everybody there who is still asking about the NEW THEME: the theme you're looking for, i.e. the Batman heroic theme is heard in Track 8: "Like a Dog Chasing Cars", in Track 12: "Introduce a Little Anarchy" and Track 14: "A Dark Knight". Listen to those three tracks one after another and you'll notice it. BTW, the theme is outstanding!

Just one other thing: HANS ZIMMER DOES NOT NEED TO LISTEN TO HIS FANS!!! Nor any other composer should listen to his fans' demands. Composers should not indulge their fans' wishes. We may like/love/adore his music, but Hans Zimmer does not need to ask for our opinion any time he composes a new music! That's ridiculuos. He is an artist, as every other composer is. Have you ever heard of Beethoven asking his fans how his 9th Symphony should have sounded?!? Or Van Gogh asking his fans what he should paint next?!? No composer does that! No artist does that! Not even John Williams, James Horner, Harry Gregson-Williams, and certainly not Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard.

Hans and James did their best to musically describe Batman, Joker, Gotham, Harvey Dent. And, objectively, they really succeeded. It is totally another subject wether we like/love/adore it or not. The Joker's theme may be "unlistenable", but that theme IS the Joker! So, great work, Hans! Yay!

So, people, nobody denies you your taste for good music, but it says on the cover of this score "music composed by Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard", not "music composed by Sascha" or anybody else! Therefore, do not deny Zimmer and Howard THEIR ideas and THEIR music! When you come up with something even close to this, we would be listening to your stuff. Until now, close your eyes, play the CD in your stereo, and emerge into the world of The Dark Knight.


RemoteDead6 reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
dude, your an idiot! van gogh never had any fans, he only sold one painting his entire life.. And by Beethovens 9th symphony he was completely deaf so he wouldnt hear anyone anyways... Why don't read a book once in a while!!

...joker theme, by the way, works great in the movie!

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