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@Bob<br><br>Thank you for the enlightment, I will consider opening my wrists for misconduct in the next few days, thank you very much... :o<br><br><br><br>Ok seriously though, you guys should know that if there's one guy that could not care less about awards... it's Hans... :)I am really enjoying his season of the Crown.a big balfe influence in this season with hints of Churchil and Genius I think. Really excellent music/ it's me@ds "Ramin is also doing a lot of projects but is far, far behind in terms of styles and creativity."<br> <br>I think the same for Jablonsky, Zanelli, XL, Jackman and Mancina.@macejko<br><br>"All the time he acts like the hottest shit in town, refusing to score basically everything they offer him"<br><br>You said in another comment that you never read an interview with Powell, so not reason you take that kind of conclusion of your character.<br><br>"The man hides in a cave, doesn't evolve at all and for some mysterious reason he is still revered like a second coming of Jesus Christ."<br>Powell is a clearly talented composer. He suffered criticism at the beginning of his career by sounding like Zimmer, but soon showed substance. And much more than that created an identifiable style, which today is reference to other scores of modern animations (which may be good or bad to depend on of the point of view).<br>Today he is an established composer and it is common for these composers to move away for a few years or even close their careers without many explanations for the public. In recent years we watched the estrangement of Silvestri, Horner, Williams and in the past we saw Faltemeyer, Bill Conti and Brad Fiedel drop their careers when they were at the top of the game.<br><br>" Say anything you will about Lorne Balfe, but at least he is working his ass off and slowly getting better and better"<br><br>As they said in another comment, you're compared to newbies and veterans. Balfe's having the opportunity of his life now. Take it or leave it. There's no choice. Powell, as well as Zimmer others, on the other hand, is a "senior member" of the club. He can afford to go away for a few years to resolve comprehensible personal problems without affecting the hard work he has developed in the last 20 years. Will Balfe continue to be so creative in 10 or 15 years?<br><br>@ds<br><br>"<br>Powell has nothing to prove, he has already mastered all genres"<br><br>That's funny, but it's fair. Powell Is a good composer. Not the best, far from it. Your style really narrows your work down, but we can say that from all the composers out there. So it's not a problem.The problem is he wants to limit his work to animations and fantasy.because he abhors gratuitous violence.<br><br>@george<br><br>". Although, I hate to say it, we could say the same for Zimmer in my opinion"<br><br>Zimmer's at the end of his career. All the other composers when they arrived at 60 years (with the exception of JNH, Goldsmith and Morricone) reduced the amount of projects per year and went on to choose their work best. It's a natural way.Over the years, it tends to get worse with one exception here and there. Don't keep expectations like he's in his prime<br><br>"he has "nothing more to prove", he is creatively dead."<br><br><br>Powell will work with a little more frequently in the coming years (or not) that only depends on his ambitions. However, frankly, he's never going to do three again. 4.5. 6 projects in a year. It takes a lot of motivation for that.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
Just listened to the whole thing, kind of a let down. Nothing interessting except for some action moments. Don’t even recall hearing some sort of theme. Overall it was like listening to Cars 4: Spanish World Cup.I have already listened to The Jumanji Overture and I must say it sounds really great. Let's see how the rest of the score sounds.Tracklist with track duration:<br>01. The Jumanji Overture (03:20)<br>02. Digging Up The Past (01:43)<br>03. Brantfort High (01:09)<br>04. Into The Jungle (01:23)<br>05. Out of Character (02:31)<br>06. The Legend of the Jewel (02:23)<br>07. The Adventure Begins (01:40)<br>08. Special Abilities (01:16)<br>09. The Bikers (03:44)<br>10. Van Pelt (01:00)<br>11. A Test Of Friendship (01:22)<br>12. The Bazaar (01:16)<br>13. Snake Charmer (03:41)<br>14. The Power of Bravestone (01:04)<br>15. Seaplane McDonough (02:17)<br>16. The Missing Piece (01:46)<br>17. Lost In Time (01:18)<br>18. Flirting With Danger (01:36)<br>19. Albino Rhinos (03:44)<br>20. Retrieving the Emerald (01:54)<br>21. Out of Lives (01:49)<br>22. First Kiss (01:22)<br>23. The Jaguars (03:03)<br>24. Ring of Fire (02:07)<br>25. Begin The Climb (01:56)<br>26. Call Out Its Name (02:23)<br>27. leaving Jumanji (03:03)<br>28. An Older Friend (02:40)<br>29. Back To School (01:53)@ds the same for desplat's victory with Budapest Hotel.Maybe. I'd sure be happy for you lot ;) And I'd definitely rather see Powell attached to a project than, say, RGW, Junkie or Desplat. <br><br>That Solo movie is going to be a disaster, though.
One more thing: if indeed the reason for Powell's semi-hiatus was to be with his family as much as possible, we may well see his activity increase again in coming years now that his wife has passed away and his son is close to graduating high school (I couldn't find an exact date of birth for him but I think he's 16 or 17). Him taking on a project as big and ambitious as Star Wars isn't exactly the sign of someone who wants to take it easy. It's too early to say yet though.hans should win the oscar for best sound effects and not for the best music/score. just as a statement.And it's also unfair to use Balfe to criticize Powell. He started working on American projects in 2005 with Batman Begins, and only after 2010 did he receive individual projects. Is it accurate to compare someone who entered the party at the last minute with two others who are in it for 20 (Powell) and 30 (Zimmer)?<br><br>I'm in a hurry and I put everything into a translator. Forgive the many mistakes.<br> <br><br><br>Composers do not need to worry about the attention, acceptance of the public of the same or the same intensity as pop music artists do. There's no need to do that. Occasionally some name draws attention to the public and causes many people to be in the genre, Williams and Zimmer are the main examples that I can bring the table. However it is not because Williams or Zimmer are extremely popular and perhaps worry about the material they are offering to the public who adores them that all the composers of the world need to do equal. Most of these men and women even enxeega as "celebrity". They are more like artisans or the rest of the crew of a film that occupies with the lights, effects and costumes and that will never have the same response from the public as the main actor. And they don't even expect it. So I think it's foolish to wait for Powell to occupy himself in 2,3 movies a year to please a fanbase.<br><br>I'll agree with you when it says it's deplorable to see CPR composers who talk so much about building a single voice and giving emerging talent the opportunity to use so many additional composers (many of them with a possible promise that in the future they will work with Zimmer and thus have the opportunity to show his face in Hollywood.The sense is almost always these.You start with a secondary composer, he arrives at Zimmer and gains some kind of notoriety). But Powell is not the only one who does this. So he should not be the only one criticized.Well...it's a film score. It has no obligation to provide a pleasant or enjoyable listening experience, and for an award like this that doesn't really come into consideration. So if it works in the film, it did its job and that's all that matters.<br><br>For me personally, as someone who cares about music first and films second, a score like Dunkirk has little value. A few years ago I probably would have been pretty mad about this score winning awards and acclaim (you should have seen how salty I got when The Social Network beat out HTTYD), but these days... *shrug*. I know what I like, Dunkirk isn't it, and that's fine. It wasn't written for me. Do I wish Hans still wrote the kind of music I like? Of course. But he gets to make his own choices as an artist, just as I get to choose what to listen to as a fan.
The score is already on itunes.This score... so many mixed emotions. Does it work for the film? Heck yeah. Does it improve the film? So much so. Did Hans do what he set out to do? Totally. Is it an award winning masterpiece? Um, not so fast.<br><br>Dunkirk, while super effective within the context of the film (I wouldn’t change a thing about it), I must admit, it doesn’t have nearly the same effect as a stand-alone listen. It’s literally the same textures and notes over and over again, just slightly rising and falling in pitch and tempo. Does that make it “award” worthy? I’m not sure. If based solely on the film, you betcha. If based purely on the music itself, I don’t think so. That’s where Interstellar succeeds so far and away over Dunkirk. As a pure listening experience, Interstellar is interesting, multi-layered and emotional. Whereas Dunkirk is just flat, void of any sort of feeling or “actual” music (again, works IN the film). It’s glorified sound FX (save for the end, which, no doubt, is in large part to Ben).<br><br>Hmm... I’ve never had a score tear me apart more than this one. I both love it and hate it. Maybe it did it’s job... lol.<br><br>Excuse me while I go listen to No Time for Caution yet again.I think most of us agree that he should've won for Interstellar but I think Dunkirk deserves it too. The work Hans and the music department did on this movie is just incredible. Must've been a lot of hard work. <br>An award is an award, Hans' 2nd Oscar is long overdue so I'd be glad to see him win. But it would be weird to see him win for THAT score, after all the greatnesses of the past 20 years. Same thing with Morricone who won his only Oscar for his very light and insignificant work on Hateful Eight. Good for the man, good for the fans, but doesn't really make sense. But have Oscars ever made sense? :-phaha hybrid :D made my day
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The Dark Knight
Label: Warner Bros. Records
Length: 73'24
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  1. Why So Serious? (9:14)
  2. I'm Not A Hero (6:34)
  3. Harvey Two-Face (6:16)
  4. Aggressive Expansion (4:35)
  5. Always A Catch (1:39)
  6. Blood On My Hands (2:16)
  7. A Little Push (2:42)
  8. Like A Dog Chasing Cars (5:02)
  9. I Am The Batman (1:59)
  10. And I Thought My Jokes Were Bad (2:28)
  11. Agent Of Chaos (6:55)
  12. Introduce A Little Anarchy (3:42)
  13. Watch The World Burn (3:47)
  14. A Dark Knight (16:15)
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emily reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-20 00:00:00
ok im just wondering which song is it when batman is in hong kong catching lau? im not sure which one it is? please let me know thanks.
dark knight was amazing. ive seen it 3 times. thursday at midnight friday evening and saturday evening. i love it!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-20 00:00:00
I think that is I'm not a hero

From North Africa reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-20 00:00:00
Congratulations Mr.Zimmer & Mr.Howard You've Composed The #1 Movie From The Top 250 IMDB This is What The Movie Deserve and What You Deserve Too I'm Soooooooo Happy That The Dark Knight is #1 :) :) :)

coburnbatman reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard seriously deserve an award for the movie. I too enjoy listening to it. Especially when im on the road. Hands down, Zimmer is my favorite composer of all time. He and i are both German. Like that has to do with anything. IDK. The "End Credits" from Batman Begins i have and love. All I gotta do now is get The Dark Knight "End Credits" and i'll be happy!

Ratheesh reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
Thanks for tracks!!

Max reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
Im also looking for the song playing in Dark knight's trailer + credits

thx in advance

josh reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
For almost 30 years he gave us the most kitch, all american cheasy empty easy theme music ever. He even steal from other composer, for exemple Gustav Holst, Mars from The Planets for gladiator. And now with this Dark Knight, nothing interesting, nothing new, the score is almost the same as Batman begins. I am a big fan of Batman since I was young and this boring music makes me angry ! I prefer the Elfman score from the original Batman, 1000000 times better.

From North Africa reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
Hi Roy you can find it in batman begins original score the of the song is ''Molossus'' Or in the expanded score of batman begins too in The ''End Credits'' of begins and because you've heard it in The Dark Knight there are 3 other releases of the dark knight score coming soon i heard i think it will be there but you can find in batman begins score the Original in ''Molossus'' and the Expanded In The End Credits

Now I haven't seen the dark knight yet because it hasn't released yet in my country and i have a question the song you're talking about played in the dark knight in some scenes?????????

bruceV reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
A Sentient Being, you got me first!! I couldn’t agree more with what you‘ve said in your last post. I was about to post something here too, after seeing the movie..

Well, maybe the guys that posted an answer to what I’ve said earlier are right and I was overzealous/ passionate.. /Apologizes for that.

After seeing the movie yesterday I’d like to add something that you are probably aware of already: THE MUSIC OF Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard FITS LIKE A GLOVE to the Picture of THE DARK KNIGHT.

As for the other subject, you people Sascha and KEN s., perhaps you (think you) have such a strong name as John Williams, Ennio Morricone, Howard Shore or anyone else music composer of our time, that you can criticise and judge Hans Zimmer’s and James Newton Howard’s decisions and work?? Who are you people really? Tell us, so that we recognise you publicly and then you CAN have your opinion HEARD and written.. Maybe then you will compose YOUR OWN themes and the ONES you prefer to what H.Z. and J.N.H. have done here.

Until then, maybe you should KEEP your PERSONAL opinion on Hans Zimmer’s WORK for YOURSELVES..

Because there are a few of us who believe that if there’s something out there in the world that we don’t like, then the first thing that should be changed would be our stance / OURSELVES ...

Greetings!!! : - )


* And by the way, RemoteDead6 you are completely out of the subject... Maybe it’s not A Sentient Being who is an idiot, but someone else...

You are right about what you said on Beethoven’s being deaf, BUT was Beethoven BLIND or incapable to READ too???.....

Max reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
From North Africa :

I have seen the movie 2 times in 24h (yeah thats how good it is my friend) and I recall enjoying that song of some very similar variation of that song during several action scenes.

Hope you can enjoy Heath Ledger's Joker as soon as possible.

From North Africa reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
I Really Can't Wait Max Until This Movie Release In My Country 23 July I'm So Sad That Heath Has Gone I Loved him Sooooo Much We Lost The Best Actor EVER My Friend I Hope He Gets Oscar For His Rule This Movie Is My Favorite Movie EVER Before I EVEN See It & Heath's Performance Is The Greatest Performance EVER May God Rest His Soul :(
I Hope He was Still with us to See How AMAZING He Was
ICan't Wait I Can't Stand The Wait I Feel Torture From Waiting I Can't Wait Anymore

I Cry Everytime I Hear Track 14 A Dark Knight Absolutely Brilliant Soooooo Emotional

Cameron reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
Zimmer: Nothing he does seems to be special to him. He seems to have no sense of occasion (which is weird because he's German and lived in England for a long time). He treats everything the same. For god's sake, his action music for the Dark Knight is almost the same as The Peacemaker.

He knew this was going to be a special film and yet he brought nothing special to the table. No great themes. Nothing. Just a vascillating 4-note figure that can only be the musical representation of Bruce Wayne/Batman's singularity of purpose and focus and a siren-like motif in the brass that can be a "help is on the way" idea.

Really I think old Hans has actually just composed himself out and may never have anything fresh to say again (that, of course, if your argument states he ever had anything fresh to say in the first place).

PJ2 reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
I can't wait the movie, but here in France it realises August the 13th!!! It's torture!!!!!!

A Sentient Being reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
bruceV, thank you so much for your support! You got the words out of my mouth regarding RemoteDead 6's post. He missed my point entirely!

Truly, guys, we may love it or hate it, but it sure does not mean it's bad.

Here, in Serbia, The Dark Knight has its premiere on July 23. I'm gonna eat my shorts (and everything that's in it) until then!!! Hopefully, my copy of TDK score arrives from Amazon.com on 22nd!

:-)

Cheers!

Geoffrey reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-19 00:00:00
August the 13TH in france? in belgium it's july the 23th ...weird.

From North Africa reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
Hi Roy Which end credits do you mean the end credits of the dark knight or batman begins???

is the music that in the trailer of The Dark Knight in the end credits of The Dark Knight??????

bruceV reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
Right….

I suppose, Sascha, (who you are a big fan of H.Z.) you are angry - about the soundtrack of The Dark Knight, is that so??

Well, since I consider myself too as a ‘fan’ of H.Z. and his music, I’d like to state a little something here too…

First of all, Sascha, would it be possible to indicate to me how many of these people that post a comment here are ‘angry’ with the soundtrack of The Dark Knight?...

Furthermore – and most important – is my second question to you AND to ALL of those ‘so called’ fans and big lovers and collectors of H.Z. music:
Beyond those comments of yours about this particular music (The Dark Knight) is there anything hiding?? I mean did you HAVE to pay (a lot of money) or had you been paid to criticize Hans Zimmer’s music and NOW WITH THIS SOUNDTRACK all of these stop to function and make your life so miserable that you can’ stand, despite the fact that you are a fan of H.Z. and judge his choices in this way??..
Because if it is so, you could simply stop hearing to this (insulting) soundtrack, TOSS IT AWAY and never buy a H.Z. soundtrack in your life again….

To sum up my comment I’d like to ask you Sascha and all of those people I mentioned before: Do you REALLY think you NEED to pay/ get/ hear to this soundtrack?? Or else something really serious will happen?....

I think there is still freedom of choice and there’s not an obligation to hear this PARTICULAR CD!!!!! If you don’t like it for some reason go on and hear anything else and don’t criticize the work that has been done here.

Greetings to ALL HANS ZIMMER and his Music fans!!!! : - )

Sascha reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
I'm a big fan of H.Z.
But like everybody here i'm angry.

Roy reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
hey great track but I am looking for the music in the trailers and also in the End credits of the movie.

Anyone has an idea which track that is?

Renan reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
Zimmer and Howard talked a lot about that THEME in many interviews...

I was really expecting something really COOL...as Howard keep saying "Zimmer wrote a wonderful big theme...". But it seems that the THEME wasn't used in this score.

At least I couldnt find it.

There has been, indeed, some evolution in Batman's Two Note Motif. In track 2, there is a Bass/Cello line added to the main Motif. Its very beatiful, emotional and touching. But it doesnt really made any difference. It worked more as a fulfilling line.

Someone said that track 8 "Like a Dog Chasing Cars" featured the THEME. Thats not true, what we have at track 8 is Variations on Track 2 (I'm not a Hero) motifs and "themes". The opening for track 8 is a motif very similar to what we heard at 44 seconds on track 2, but now its fast-paced and harmony is more tense.

For the Joker theme, come on! We cant even say its a theme. There is no such thing as an "One note" theme. Its a motif...nothing but that.

I loved the score, thats true. Its a masterpiece, on its own purposes. But there are definitely many flaws.

Steve reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
I don't like it. The joker theme is the worst. The rest is just reprise of the "molossus" theme from batman begins... Very disappointing.

Sascha reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
sorry for my bad english.
Angry i meen disappointed
what track plays first in intro on this site???

Sascha reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
I dont care about his ways. He makes music for maney and for as and he must do it well,but this score is bullshit. I think time of Mr. H.Z have past. ########

KEN s. reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
I like this Batman Dark Knight soundtrack, but only the hero theme song (Like a dog chasing cars and Introduce a little anarchy).

But somehow I think H.Z. work is not as good as before. I'm a big fan, but I think Pirates of the Caribbean 1,2 (not 3), Gladiator is a lot better than his latest work.

Just a note, I don't agree that "if i don't like his work, don't buy and stop listen" I think if I'm H.Z. I will listen to the angry people, try to find the problem and fix it, rather than listen to the big fan that always say "H.Z. is the best composer in the world" He will have no improvement, if he don't listen to comments

From Noth Africa reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
Am i the only one who think that this soundtrack is a MASTERPIECE I've heard every single soundtrack for Mr.Zimmer and He has never disappointed me in any score this guy is angle i think he is the King Of Music
This Score is The Most Emotional Score EVER have you listened to A Dark Knight The Track 14 Its BRILLIANT

Thank You Mr.Zimmer For Your All Music You Are The King Of Kings

roy reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
hey from north africa

the end credits of dark knight.

Brian reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
I believe this soundtrack is the finest music ever to grace a film screen. It's brilliance, with the brilliance of a solid script, and solid acting makes this film the ultimate movie going experience. Mr. Zimmer, and Mr. Howard have outdone themselves. Bravo, Maestro's. Genius!!!!!!

A Sentient Being reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
Now, again, for everybody there who is still asking about the NEW THEME: the theme you're looking for, i.e. the Batman heroic theme is heard in Track 8: "Like a Dog Chasing Cars", in Track 12: "Introduce a Little Anarchy" and Track 14: "A Dark Knight". Listen to those three tracks one after another and you'll notice it. BTW, the theme is outstanding!

Just one other thing: HANS ZIMMER DOES NOT NEED TO LISTEN TO HIS FANS!!! Nor any other composer should listen to his fans' demands. Composers should not indulge their fans' wishes. We may like/love/adore his music, but Hans Zimmer does not need to ask for our opinion any time he composes a new music! That's ridiculuos. He is an artist, as every other composer is. Have you ever heard of Beethoven asking his fans how his 9th Symphony should have sounded?!? Or Van Gogh asking his fans what he should paint next?!? No composer does that! No artist does that! Not even John Williams, James Horner, Harry Gregson-Williams, and certainly not Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard.

Hans and James did their best to musically describe Batman, Joker, Gotham, Harvey Dent. And, objectively, they really succeeded. It is totally another subject wether we like/love/adore it or not. The Joker's theme may be "unlistenable", but that theme IS the Joker! So, great work, Hans! Yay!

So, people, nobody denies you your taste for good music, but it says on the cover of this score "music composed by Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard", not "music composed by Sascha" or anybody else! Therefore, do not deny Zimmer and Howard THEIR ideas and THEIR music! When you come up with something even close to this, we would be listening to your stuff. Until now, close your eyes, play the CD in your stereo, and emerge into the world of The Dark Knight.

Cheers!

RemoteDead6 reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-18 00:00:00
dude, your an idiot! van gogh never had any fans, he only sold one painting his entire life.. And by Beethovens 9th symphony he was completely deaf so he wouldnt hear anyone anyways... Why don't read a book once in a while!!

...joker theme, by the way, works great in the movie!

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