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Don't feel bad. You've just summed up why Hans and Lorne make a good team. Lorne is by all accounts a fantastic arranger and can bring out the best in others' ideas but I sometimes find his own compositions are a bit basic or leave me cold. Hans on the other hand always nails the theme and the concept but his scoring to picture to me feels clunky and a bit amateurish, especially when the music is dense. <br><br>Both super talented in their own ways. :-)Is there anyway o get sheet music for Into the pie machine for orchestra?Just saw Maleficent 2. There is a lot more Newton Howard in the movoe than there is on album.<br>I actually can't really understand why they didn't include the reprise of The Christening (the dinner scene) & the finale in the movie.<br><br>Zanelli's score is wonderful and I love it very much. But would have loved this on albumI can't imagine how someone likes Balfe's part over Richters. As you said Thomas, Richters work sounds more like suites, and Balfes work is written more to picture. BUT, it sounds to me also like a typical RCP-work with Hans. While Hans gives the direction with his suites and melodies, Balfe and co are adapting those suites to the specific scenes and writing some "new" stuff to fill any gap if there is any need of it, so they become additional composers in the credits.<br><br>And here, we have the same. Richter shows the direction and some cues are real intense and beautiful. Balfes parts sounding like a gap-filler. I don't want to talk bad about Balfe, he's a composing machine, but still i can't find anything remarkable on those parts and so i can't understand how Richters work hasn't been used but instead the more colorless cues from Balfes part :/<br><br>Again, don't feel insulted guys, it's just my sensationBalfe’s part is the best I think.<br>It also seems written to picture instead of just long suites.<br>My understanding is the Balfe wrote half of the score but the album doesn’t seem to represent that for some reason.
I really liked Richter’s score over balfesI listened Max Richter for years. He is the kind of select or minority composer who does his solo works and soundtrack for movies not so famous. <br>His solo works are really really good with quintet and piano and voice. "on the nature of daylight" is definitely the best. <br>His sountrack is not good as his solo, to be honest. I think "the Leftovers" (2014-2017, HBO series), "Miss Slaone" (2016) and "Mary Queen of Scots" (2019) are cool.<br>If you need some peaceful music for meditation or good sleep, listen to his work.Richter did his recording in january and june 2019. The Director himself is a fan of Richter, so the deadline and director are not the reason.<br>It seemed that producers were not satisfied with Richter's music and they wanted something new, that's why they got Lorne. It turned out Lorne brought a very limited new...@Cercei<br>Hybrid can definitely answer that best. Richter’s score is used (alongside Balfe’s material) as well as some source pieces. If I remember correctly it’s a mish-mash of the two.I do know that piece, it’s very pretty. I’ll check out his other works, thanks for the recommendation. In terms of minimalism I really am into Brian Eno at the moment. His “Music For Airports” and “The Lovely Bones” are excellent if you like more introspective music.
btw, you're saying Lorne recomposed and reworked the entire score. as i haven't seen the movie yet, did the producers end up with not using richters score for it at all and just used the score from Lorne?thanks for your information. but i actually don't understand why they have done that. i've heard now Lornes cues and Richters cues. all those cues from Lorne, they sound very similiar to that what Richter composed, but somehow with less melodies. And you really have to work hard to not use fewer melodies then Richter, as he's a minimalist at its best ^^ with that being said, i can't hear any groundbreaking differences from Lornes part, so what was their idea on hiring it and getting the same style of music, but in a more "light" version? :/i really admire Max Richters work, he isn't that new in this scene. his style is that repeating minimalism. maybe you've heard once the cue "on the nature of daylight" which was used a lot by many other movies. his last score which knocked me out was "Hostiles". such an emotional and intense score, you need to hear that, and probably see the movie as well (with Christian Bale). <br><br>Really surprised at this album, I’ve never really heard anything from Max Richter but I really like what he ended up writing for this score. It surprisingly flows well for a stand alone listen. It’s funny that the producers wanted a different approach, I think Richter nailed it.<br><br>Balfe’s contribution is excellent as well, I particularly like that repeating chord progression (which is starting to become one of his trademarks considering how many times he has used it). It’s disappointing that they didn’t include more of his contribution though, since he apparently rewrote the entire score.Lorne said in his Twitter, the first album for His Dark Materials come 3rd November, no date, for the moment, for the second album.
Was the producersi haven't understood the fact, that Lorne was involved in this. Can someone explain it for me? Was the director not satisfied with Richters music? Was the deadline too near? Or what was the reason why they have brought Lorne to this project?"The Wanderer", "Event Horizon", "You Have To Let Me Go" and "Tuesday (Voiceless)" = WOW WOW WOW!!!Zanelli is no James Newton Howard, but he did a fantastic job with writing a large scale fantasy score. I’ll even say that, while I think the first Maleficent is stronger overall, I personally like the action writing better here. Also 2 little things I’ve noticed;<br><br>1. The new theme here sounds fairly similar to the Father/Son tune from KFP3<br>2. 2:20-3:30 sounds like it may have been temped from the finale of Fantastic Beasts. (Or maybe I’m just crazy lol)Great work of Zanelli, if is not as good like JNH's Maleficent, is a tremendous work, with a terrific writing and orchestrations, even the most tender parts are terrific.
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The Forbidden Kingdom
Label: Lionsgate Records
Length: 67'00
HZimmer.com rating:        4/5
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  1. The Mountain Of Fruit & Flowers (1:43)
  2. The Peach Banquet (1:46)
  3. Monkey Business (4:31)
  4. China Begins (4:11)
  5. Hops' Shop (3:07)
  6. J&J Temple Fight (5:34)
  7. The Legend Of The Temple Staff (1:59)
  8. Two Tigers - Two Masters (2:49)
  9. Tea House Fight (5:07)
  10. The Tyranny Of War (5:23)
  11. Don't Forget To Breathe (0:52)
  12. Ni Chang & Her Cult Killers (4:35)
  13. Drunken Master Wounded (3:40)
  14. The Seeker Of The Prophecy (5:05)
  15. Let The Journey Begin (2:37)
  16. Monkey King Released (2:27)
  17. Battle Of The Bride (3:01)
  18. Her Destiny Was Written (4:12)
  19. As One Tale Ends... (2:46)
  20. ... Another Tale Begins (1:35)
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Mcbain reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-20 00:00:00
Great news! :P

Mcbain reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-19 00:00:00
It's been a long time since I haven't been that enthusiastic about 30-second samples! I can't wait for this to be released!
Please, relieve us from pain!
Anyway, great first solo attempt!

Nash reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-19 00:00:00
hey admins, there is anohter track list found at
http://www.tracksounds.com/reviews/forbidden_kingdom_david_b uckley.htm
which one is right??

Track Title Track Time Rating
1 The Dream 1:42
2 The Peach Banquet 1:45
3 China Begins 4:11
4 Boston, China Town 3:06
5 Temple Fight 5:34
6 The Legend of the Staff 1:58
7 Two Tigers 2:49
8 Tea House Fight 5:07
9 The Tryanny of War 5:23
10 Don't Forget to Breath 0:52
11 Peach Blossom Battle 3:36
12 Drunken Master Wounded 3:39
13 Boy Becomes Man 5:05
14 Heroes Enter 2:37
14 Bride Fight 3:00
14 Her Destiny Was Written 4:12
14 China Ends 2:45
14 Kung Fu Legends 1:35

Total Running Time (approx) 59 minutes

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-19 00:00:00
Your tracklist isn't wrong Nash, but Buckley himself told us that they updated it... :-)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-19 00:00:00
Well I don't know really...


According to the Lionsgate website, it WILL come out (but no release date, just a coming soon :S)...

According to David's e-mails, it's not sure at all... He is not really confident... It seems nobody is really interested in releasing it...

So wait & see...

Feared reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-19 00:00:00
I suppose if the composer himself isn't confident, then the score could really go to the shelves of the studio warehouse, instead of taking it's place on our shelves among the collection.
What a waste, long time since I've heard such an enjoyable MV style score.
Of course I hope i can get my hands on the promo, but it is not the same, as having the official release in your hands.

Feared reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-19 00:00:00
I contacted Mr. Buckley, who told me that the cd is in production, and it is definitely being released!

David Buckley reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-19 00:00:00
It WILL BE RELEASED. 100% certain. NO DOUBT. Just finalising details. Over an hour of score... Will let you know as soon as I do, and I hope that will be very soon...

All best

Dave

Feared reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-19 00:00:00
Hi Hybrid!

Did Buckley tell You what's up with the official release?

Feared reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-18 00:00:00
I've just finished the movie. It was great so was the score. Like Pirates Of The Caribbean meats The Promise.
The theme was typical chinese, the motif for the 'evil girl' had a definite Morricone touch. The action cues sounded hauntingly like the action material from POTC, just with chinese arrangement.
All in all, a very enjoyable score from Buckley.
I hope Lionsgate releases the score in the near future!

Krazie835 reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-18 00:00:00
The extract of Track 17 sounds like Batman Begins, I guess everyone from Remote Control can't help taking samples from Zimmer scores huh?

I enjoyed the score in the movie, and I hope I can pick it up soon.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-14 00:00:00
I hope it will be available soon... :S

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