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I guess it's only fair that they do shoulder the blame, considering again that releases like these aren't really the norm for them. I still wouldn't expect a recall and replacement, since it'd be a lot of money down the drain there. Their loss ultimately at the end of the day.<br><br>A bit disappointed about the content being the exact same as the leak, as I would've liked some of the film edits or at least the alt mixes I've seen pop up. I guess I'll just have to hope Disney does end up cooperating with LLL sooner than later.You gotta realize one thing, most of the time, Hans doesn't even know about these releases (and honestly I think he doesn't care). Only a few labels like LLL play ball and have him involved (but as Hans doesn't own most of his music, they have no other reason than courtesy to do so).<br><br>As for MI2, people who complained about the "content" instead of the tech aspect of it were goddamn wrong. Yes, the film mixes / OST mixes are pretty different. Because you have suites & sometimes material specifically arranged for the album or alternate cues.<br><br>Mondo having released the final mixes (and I know what Paramount provided them, it's just exactly the same 2 CD set copy that leaked years ago), I have no problem if the content is different.<br><br>And that's the topic on which they answered, James. Technically, they're not wrong, but they are ditching the REAL problem, for which they are responsible for ! The speed issue is on them, not on what they got.Considering the recent issues with the isolated score on Days of Thunder's 4K release sounding very inconsistent, I do wonder if Paramount has simply been poor in preserving stuff. Especially when they mention the studio and not the record label, which might've had a better copy on hand (they did finally put the OST on digital recently, after all).<br><br>I am not going to hold Mondo responsible for this, especially considering they normally do just press the regular OSTs onto LPs. I don't expect them to be fully privy to if a score sounds fine or not, since they're often just given the stuff prepared for them. Besides, repressing records would be a super expensive ordeal, especially with how limited they're often designed to be now.<br><br>And honestly: since no one has made the comparison to Sherlock 2 yet, how bad sounding is it really? I'd much rather it be slightly off than it being complete trash like the Perseverance release of Rain Man was. If HZ was able to let that slide once, then he won't be so worked up over a small tempo issue.So this is what Mondo had to say about their massive screw up. I've never heard something so stupid in my life. If I had a direct line to Hans Zimmerman himself I'd call him about this. I'm sure he would be interested to know they butchered his album. <br><br>"Hi James,<br><br>I talked with the soundtracks department and here's what they had to say:<br><br>We’ve been made aware of a discrepancy between how the audio sounds on our album versus how it was previously released in original releases.<br><br>Our masters came directly from the studio and from original recording sessions, and we did not do any adjustments to the masters in post other than standard vinyl mastering process. But it seems any previous post production on those original releases, and cues used in the film itself, are absent from our release and may account for the differences you notice.<br><br>We currently do not have any plans on remastering the score."<br>Great. Thx.<br><br>Score has much similarities with Sherlock, so there is many of Lorne's cues...
Known credits are Runaway Train for Mazzaro (was on his website), for Andrew K : The Rangers, Cannibal, Dead Rangers & Finish Him (on his Soundcloud). Geoff is the only guy with Ann Marie Simpson that got the privilege of cuesheet credit.
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<br>Battle of Aughrim arrangement (so everything lifted from "Silver") is Hans & Ann Marie.
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<br>Geoff did a good part of the score, every other classical pieces arrangements are his (so, everywhere the William Tell Overture appears). Train Chase, the End Credits, This Is A Robbery.
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<br>The stuff that sounds more or less like Sherlock have definitely Lorne. And I suspect a bit more epic drama have RGW.Hello there!<br>Hybrid, do we have some composer's credits on this score?<br>Or this is situation like on Transformers score?<br><br>Somewhere I read that Geoff Zanelli helped Hans on Train Chase (pts 1&2), Mazzaro did Runaway Train and Kawczynski did like 2 or 3 tracks (the rangers, finish him). Is that correct?<br><br>btw good score, not genius, but pretty good action score.<br><br>Made in Italy<br><br>Beautiful new score by Alex Belcher, check it out!Oh, yes.<br><br>Maybe this month, right?The album is ready. Just waiting for legal to settle it... It'll happen.
And about The Rhythm Section?, Mazzaro said the score is mastered...If there'd only been the first movie prior, I think I'd get it a bit more. But the 2nd film did have a proper score release, so the only reason at this point is that it just isn't on Nick's mind after all the delays.Whoa, why not? Every obscure random shit gets released these days but a Hans Zimmer score to a fairly big mainstream movie doesn't?I doubt there'll be a score release.The Spongebob movie is being released next Friday here in Canada, could we see a release of the album soon? Assuming of course that there will be an album at all /:
I gotta say that short film was spectacular even with I Phone 11, the score by Lorne Balfe fitted very well with the scenes introduced.I'd say that this anthem was pretty great for Zimmer to score a soccer team that has been alive for 25 years.Cheers guys, much appreciated!<br>In my mind I had some video interview though, as I always like watching those as well. I do wonder if there was an extra section on the home release of the movie where ideally there might be.Hans Zimmer is one of the biggest film composers working in the industry today.  He won an Academy Award for his work on The Lion King, and has been nominated for six other films including Gladiator, The Thin Red Line, and As Good As It Gets. With The Last Samurai he celebrates his 100th film score, and SoundtrackNet had an opportunity to talk with Hans a few weeks ago during a rare break in his busy schedule working on Something's Gotta Give.<br><br>You've scored many projects during your career, and The Last Samurai is being touted as your 100th film score…<br><br>Well, I'm terrible with math, so I'm not doing the counting. It could be more, it could be less – but apparently it's the 100th.<br><br>So how did you get involved with the project?<br><br>If you're lucky enough to get nominated for an Oscar, you get invited to the Oscar nominee's luncheon where they hand out these little nomination certificates. There are usually 150 people standing there, and people are invited up in alphabetical order, starting with the As. By the time they get to the Cs, everybody's already back at their table chatting and eating, and while the first people called get thunderous applause, you can imagine what it's like when your name starts with Z!<br><br>So Ed Zwick and I were standing there, waiting at one of these luncheons about four years ago, and we started talking to each other. I asked him what he was working on and he told me about this movie called The Last Samurai, which I thought sounded interesting and I asked him to send me a script. After the script arrived, I didn't hear from him for a long time and I thought he'd forgotten about me, not thinking about how difficult it is to set up a samurai movie these days. The other thing I liked about the project was that Tom Cruise was involved, so it was like returning home, since I've scored a bunch of his movies – I knew we were going to have a good time.<br><br>Did it end up that way?<br><br>Ed and his editor Steve Rosenblum are such gentlemen, so together and professional, and they basically did one cut of the film, screened it, and everyone loved their work. So after this, they had plenty of time to come and hang with me, and while I usually love the re-cutting process because it's a diversionary tactic to keep the director and editor out of my life, these guys were great to have around. <br><br>Of course, my sense of paranoia made me think that something was going wrong all the time, waiting for the other shoe to drop, as it were, but it never happened. Ed phoned this morning and I thought, "Oh my god – rewrite!" It's just how my brain works. But I think he and I feel a bit odd now: we've been seeing each other every day for months, and suddenly we're done. I completely understand why people have a problem finishing a movie, because there's something really nice about the process – completion is far more boring.<br><br>For Samurai, you used Japanese percussions and ethnic woodwinds, without getting too 'Japanese'.<br><br>My problem is that I feel Japanese music is really inaccessible to Western ears, and I was really struggling with this film initially, trying to figure out what I was doing. This idea popped into my head for using Western-style themes, but applying a Japanese aesthetic to them, which sounds great of course, until I had to ask myself what I meant! Actually, I think it's just my way of not overloading certain things with too many colors, or being geometrically precise about my cues and not making them too flowery.<br><br>The Tom Cruise character is one of those nasty drunks at the beginning, who obviously has some serious problems he's trying to deal with, or not deal with. He's obnoxious and restless, suffering sleepless nights and is very un-Tom. For me, this character's journey was about his need to earn tranquility and peace, so within the score there's this very romantic, overblown and passionate theme. It's like a juvenile way of dealing with life and death – the pain and liebestod.<br><br>However, to contrast with these very relentless themes, there are a number of stark, formal and sober pieces, because I wanted to take Tom's character on a journey. He comes from America and ends up in this foreign place where he doesn't speak the language or understand the culture. But at the end of the movie, I want the audience to think that there isn't a more beautiful place for him to be, that he is at home in Japan and finally at peace.<br><br>There are many useless acts of bravery we do out of misguided romanticism, and this movie is full of courageous and dignified acts of bravery. So I wanted to play off these acts, since both the American and Japanese cultures have a concept of heroism, and I just wanted to see if I could play with the nature of the two different concepts.<br><br>So you didn't want to do the stereotypical Japanese thing...<br><br>Absolutely not! Take Akira Kurosawa's Ran, for example, which has this brilliant score where Takemitsu writes Western music, but with an Eastern accent. Somebody asked me a few days ago why As Good As It Gets was European – why did I write a European score for a quintessentially American story? For me, it's because Jack Nicholson was crazy in the movie, and I felt one of the great things about America is how they always think we Europeans are crazy. So by writing a European-styled score, it's my way of saying that Jack is crazy, but it's alright!<br><br>How do you feel about people who criticize your work for not fitting into the time period, like Gladiator?<br><br>The reason I take these jobs is because I'm interested in foreign cultures, and every time I get to work on a movie I'm thrown into the adventure of whatever that culture is, the time, and wherever the story's taking place. So one of the things I'm very careful about is not to be historically correct to the culture, but, on the other hand, not to insult the underlying aesthetics of that culture either. I remember watching Chariots of Fire and thinking how brilliantly the music worked, never missing that it wasn't period instruments! I grew up listening to Bach played by a symphony orchestra – it's the wrong sized orchestra with the wrong instruments, but I don't think that's the point.<br><br>With Gladiator, Pietro Scalia brought in a CD saying "this is Ancient Roman music," and I said, "Says who? You went to the Ancient Roman music store and bought an Ancient Roman music CD? Bullshit!" We're not anthropologists. Look at he costumes Ridley Scott had: they were more Napoleonic than Roman, which was perhaps fitting since Napoleon had stolen all of his good ideas from the Romans regarding how to make his generals look cool – and so did Hitler! So I got criticized for making the "Entry into Rome" cue too Leni Riefenstahl – but that was the joke! I am allowed to have a sense of humor in my music!<br><br>Earlier this summer your credit on Pirates of the Caribbean was "Score Overproduced by". What was the deal with that?<br><br>Well, I thought honesty was a virtue! But seriously, Jerry Bruckheimer quite rightly asked me not to give him "that old-fashioned Pirate music," and Gore Verbinski, who I adore and did The Ring with, said, "Well, it is a pirate movie, so we have to disguise it." In the end, I spent a day and a half writing tunes, Klaus Badelt wrote a lot of stuff, and we rolled up our sleeves, got drunk, behaved in a debauched way, and produced a score!<br><br>There was a lot of criticism regarding that score, but in the end it had to serve the film - which it did. You seem to get a lot of criticism on any project you do.<br><br>I had the misfortune of going onto the Film Score Monthly web site recently to look something up and vanity made me type in my own name. I suddenly realized that you can't ever get it right. Who do people want me to be? The guy that writes Matchstick Men? Or the guy that writes The Rock? Or the guy that writes Driving Miss Daisy? My need is ultimately to write for myself. I mock myself and I'm ironic about the way I speak about it because if I take it too seriously, it would be a pompous and boring thing to do. But at the same time I take each note I write very seriously – none of them are random.<br><br>The Internet Movie Database always lists you as being attached to multiple projects, so I was curious, what's Sharktail?<br><br>I complained to Jeffrey Katzenberg that I couldn't cross any more Red Seas, or deal with any more horses that can't speak – I wanted to do one of the fun animated movies instead. There's also a hip-hop element in Sharktail, and I haven't been there yet, so it's new territory! King Arthur is still in production, and I literally just got the first bits of footage just before you came here.<br><br>Are you working on all of these projects simultaneously?<br><br>I'm thinking about them! I'm also working with Jim Brooks on his new comedy, Spanglish.<br><br>And speaking of comedies, you recently did Matchstick Men for Ridley, which had a very Nino Rota vibe to it....<br><br>And I gave him credit! I thought, what if Nino had written the theme and I was just doing the variations? But I bet I'm going to get criticized for that because it's not like Gladiator.<br><br>So when did you last have a vacation?<br><br>Well, I went to Japan for a couple of days at the end of November for the Japanese premiere of Samurai, but look, I love what I do! In January I'll travel to Morocco because Ridley will be shooting his next movie, Kingdom of Heaven, so that's like a holiday!<br><br>My family and I are going away at Christmas, and what we used to do would be to rent a house in the mountains and go on these skiing holidays. It would be a crappy house, not as nice as the one we live in, my wife was still going to the market, and we're still washing our plates – so it wasn't a vacation, it was a lot of work! It's taken us a long time, but we just figured it out: we're not practical with vacations – we're staying at hotels! But while the Zimmer family isn't talented when it comes to vacations, we're talented when it comes to work!<br><br>I sat through Samurai the other day, and for the first time watched the whole movie from top to tail with everything finished and completed. It felt really good, better than a vacation. But luckily there were enough things wrong for me to think that I learned something from the experience, and now I can't wait for the next project to try these new ideas out.<br><br>The soundtrack to The Last Samurai is available from Elektra Records, and the film is currently in theaters. Matchstick Men is available on Varese Sarabande Records.<br><br>With thanks to Chet Mehta at Chasen & Co, Jason Cienkus at Warner Brothers, and Nina Lynch and Mark Wherry at Media Ventures for helping with this interview. And, of course, special thanks to Hans.Mulan get his release... through Disney+, 4th September.
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  1. Prime (2:14)
    Steve Jablonsky
  2. Einstein's Wrong (3:35)
    Steve Jablonsky
  3. Nest (2:08)
    Linkin Park, Steve Jablonsky, Ryeland Allison
  4. The Shard (2:42)
    Steve Jablonsky, Lorne Balfe
  5. The Fallen (4:03)
    Steve Jablonsky
  6. Infinite White (3:58)
    Steve Jablonsky
  7. Heed Our Warning (4:26)
    Steve Jablonsky
  8. The Fallen's Arrival (3:47)
    Steve Jablonsky, Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  9. Tomb Of The Primes (2:47)
    Steve Jablonsky
  10. Forest Battle (2:04)
    Steve Jablonsky
  11. Precious Cargo (1:38)
    Steve Jablonsky
  12. Matrix Of Leadership (3:50)
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  13. I Claim Your Sun (3:06)
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  14. I Rise, You Fall (3:35)
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kathie reply Replies: 7 || 2012-02-20 16:14:36
Excuse me, can someone explain to me, will there ever been a Full Score? Unless, of course, there is information


Anonymous2012-02-20 18:34:19
Never


Evenstar2012-02-20 20:44:35
Well... not for public ;)


Mycroft2012-02-21 00:30:45
Sure, only for those elitist bastards--or possibly not even them. In fact, sometimes I wonder if Hans Zimmer, himself, even has any of the scores that are so much sought after.


bhd2012-04-09 01:51:58
I'm almost positive that every composer gets a copy of the full recordings for each of their films they've composed music for. Whether those recordings get given out to the public or private soundtrack collectors is the blank.


Hybrid Soldier2012-04-12 17:24:04
Well it's not that simple. You basically have people that would keep all, indeed. But you have guys that just keep what they worked on, and you also have people that just don't give a damn and whose only interest is in the next project coming (and trust me, there are a lot like that !) !


Mr. Charles2012-04-12 18:03:20
Hey look, it's Hybrid Soldier!!! Tell us Hybrid, you did you add the complete score to RoTF? We all know how much you administrators hate scores leaking, and we know you only add legit things! So enlighten us then, please, why you added it?!


RealFfingMusic2014-02-11 15:50:22
I didn't find a full score, but there's a Recording Sessions.

Anonymous reply Replies: 2 || 2013-05-25 01:44:01
Anybody else hear Curse of the Black Pearl in the first fifty seconds of "I Claim Your Sun"?


MacArthur2013-08-22 18:51:54
Yeah I kinda do


RealFfingMusic2014-02-11 15:48:09
Whoa! You're right.
Can't believe I missed that.

DRM reply Replies: 0 || 2013-04-20 23:58:42
THANKS

Ricardo reply Replies: 2 || 2012-01-30 03:17:15
Still waiting for an expanded release... Come on RCP!!

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Mr. Fate2012-01-30 16:35:15
Aye....that *would* be nice. But ask yourself: when has RCP ever released an expanded version of one of their scores? Very rarely, if ever--that's when. It just isn't in the stars...


The President of the United States of America2012-01-31 04:58:28
HA! I wish! That'll be the day. I'm willing to bet this exists among the elitists. In fact, I'm almost positive it does

jame reply Replies: 0 || 2012-01-16 01:01:23
great score, aye? shame not much released..

Mr. Charles reply Replies: 11 || 2011-11-12 05:22:55
Seriously, how has no one commented on all of the newly added additional music to Lorne Balfe's site? This is why everyone should check out each composer's site. They have unreleased music posted. Unreleased to the public, anyway.

From Revenge of the Fallen, here it what has been posted:

1m07 Reedman
2m33a Forest Battle
4m69-70 Dynasty of Primes
4m71 Matrix of Leadership

Only they are all improperly named. None of the track names correspond to the film.

And a note to Hybrid Soldier: Yes, while this music is new to the general public, it may not be new to you. So go ahead and call it "cute" in that we're just discovering this. Or whatever you think, I don't care.

I will be posting this on other releases that have additional music on Lorne's site


MacDawson2011-11-12 09:56:21
Good one. Thanks for the heads up. :)


Dawn2011-11-12 10:20:25
What's your problem with Hybrid Soldier ? Ok, he joked ONCE or maybe TWICE because someone came here with "new informations" when those had already been posted everywhere on various HZ-related forums all around the web.
Thanks to Hybrid, you have "life" on this website (composers promotion, news from all the upcoming releases, complete tracklists, informations coming from the studios...). Without him this website would be long forgotten, and he's not spending all his time on boards.
...Frankly, your behavior towards this nice guy starts to be really annoying !


Mr. Fate2011-11-12 16:33:02
I believe you have missed the point of Mr. Charles' post.

The main point was not to bash Hybrid Soldier. The main point was to find more decent names for these new cues. I don't think I can help you much, Mr. Charles, since we don't have a track list to go off for this like we do for, say, Sherlock Holmes, or DotM. The best you could probably do is go watch the movie yourself to find where these appear and name the tracks whatever you deem appropriate.


MacDawson2011-11-13 09:00:33
Great addition to the score, now at 21 (20, really) tracks and counting :) Though, as it's been pointed out elsewhere, the names don't fit. Skorponok fans (me included) will be happy to know that variant, used when the planes are launching from the aircraft carrier, is there. Now, all we need is... all the rest. XD


Hale2011-11-13 10:05:55
It lacks "Arrival to Earth" variations, "Autobots/Allspark reprise" (beginning of the movie) and the music played during the "Story of the Fallen"(Arrival to Egypt).


Alex.2011-11-14 06:11:24
Re MacDawson:

which cue contains the Skorponok variant ?


Mr. Fate2011-11-14 14:35:44
4m71 Matrix of Leadership, 0:47 to about 1:23.

@Hale, I think I know what themes you are referring to. There is one amazing theme that only sort of shows itself in "Einstein's Wrong" and "Signs 2" from Magic Box Music. Examples: both before and after they use the space bridge to get to Egypt, and possibly when Sam freaks out in the middle of that college class (I don't have a DVD rip of that one finished because of voice echoes). It occurs in SO MANY other places, but I haven't listened to my own bad DVD rips of it for a while.


Mr. Fate2012-01-15 02:32:12
I apologize, Mr. Charles, that no one has been able to help you out (not even me). Here's what I've come up with in terms of titles that are more relevant:

Reed Man --> The All Spark Sliver (my own title)
Forest Battle --> Alice, Decepticon Pretender (my own title)
Dynasty of the Primes --> Bumblebee Wins (ASCAP title)
Matrix of Leadership --> Lennox and Kids Get Closer (ASCAP title)

If someone can pinpoint exactly which two ASCAP titles correspond to those first two, that'd be even better!


Mr. Chalres2012-01-15 03:03:15
Thanks, Mr. Fate. Here's what I did myself:

1m07 Reedman > The Shard (Film Version)
2m33a Forest Battle > Alice Attacks
4m69-70 Dynasty of Primes > Bumblebee VS Rampage
4m71 Matrix of Leadership > Bombs Away

4m71 - Isn't that the cue where the jet drops the bomb causing the huge explosion, when Megatron comes out of the smoke and shoots Sam?


Mr. Fate2012-01-15 03:56:28
I didn't know whether you needed any help finding proper titles for these cues. One thing I'd like to point out though: I don't know how great the title "The Shard (Film Version)" fits, considering "The Shard" appears all throughout the film as different "film versions". You would likely have "Film Version #1", "Film Version #2", and so on, which isn't the best way to title stuff (but it's as creative as Danny Elfman's "Alice Reprises" I suppose).

If you wanted an ASCAP title, and since nobody else frequents this site like I do, here's what I'd guess would be the right names for 1m07, and 2m33a, respectively: "The Shard is Saved" and "Alice Gets Angry".

It's too bad we couldn't get a couple thousand bootleg releases for this film like we did for the first one--and that ASCAP track list appears to be not long enough. I would like to point out one interesting thing though: "Witwicky," "Satan's Camaro," and "Camaro on the Run" are all included in that track list. I am well aware that they tracked in music from the first film and remixed it a bit (a remixed version of "Sam at the Lake" also appears) but I am surprised to see those titles reused from the first film despite having no relevance to RotF. Can anyone explain this?


Mr. Charles2012-01-15 08:35:20
I hear what you're saying about my "film version" of The Shard. I thought the version we recently got from Lorne Balfe was the film version, because they sound very similar, yet still different.

I'll probably just stick with what I have named already, I'm fine with it.

I know exactly what you mean. Every time I go to ASCAP I look at the tracklist and I too notice it's way too short. And yes, I've also noticed the same cues appear on the list from the first film. Weird.

Mr. Charles reply Replies: 4 || 2012-01-14 04:59:21
FINALLY, we get the credits! Thank Hybrid


Hybrid Soldier2012-01-14 10:26:09
Yep, the OST really is based on Steve's work...


Mr. Fate2012-01-14 15:28:10
And now we can see why "The Fallen's Arrival" got cut so short! I don't really know how composing stuff works when you have multiple people working on the same cue, I could see how things could get messy. I'm going to assume something, on a probably inaccurate assumption, and say that the parts of that track that were cut out of the album edit were by Zimmer and Balfe. Am I right?

But that's good to see that most of this score was actually written by the guy it says it was written by, unlike the Pirates scores.


Hybrid Soldier2012-01-14 16:56:31
The Fallen's Arrival is actually a montage of 2 film cues :

The first 1:18 are a Jablonsky cue.

After that, it's a shortened version of a much bigger cue, which is by Hans & Lorne (using the general style of Steve). Hans told me working on that one was "a lot of fun" ! haha


Mr. Charles2012-01-15 02:56:48
That's cool, thanks for the info

SnakesInPantaloons reply Replies: 12 || 2011-09-10 19:57:06
I Have A Complete Tracklist If There Ever Is A Complete Score To ROTF :

1. 1m0 - Logos (0:41)
2. 1m1a - Main Title-First Contact (1:24)
3. 1m1b - Shanghai (0:50)
4. 1m1c - N.E.S.T. (2:08)
5. 1m4 - First Chase (1:07)
6. 1m5a - Second Chase (0:26)
7. 1m5b - Pursuit (0:44)
8. 2m7 - This Is Not Your Planet (0:38)
9. 2m7a - Sam To College (0:32)
10. 2m8a - The Shard (1:15)
11. 2m8b - Rooftop Escape / Bumblebee(0:47)
12. 2m9 - Retrieving The Shard (0:27)
13. 2m11 - Sad Bumblebee (0:47)
14. 2m12 - Autobot Hanger (0:49)
15. 3m13 - Director Galloway (0:54)
16. 3m14 - Origin Unknown (3:01)
17. 3m15 - What If We Leave? (1:17)
18. 3m18 - Tech-Head (1:17)
19. 3m19 - You Work For Me Now (0:13)
20. 3m21 - Freshman (0:23)
21. 3m22 - Mommy High (0:54)
22. 3m23 - Ravage (0:44)
23. 3m24a - Reedman (1:33)
24. 3m24b - Cakey Symbols (0:22)
25. 3m25 - Choose (1:34)
26. 4m27 - Diving For Megatron (2:18)
27. 4m28 - The Fallen's Lair (2:12)
28. 4m29 - Eintstein's Wrong (1:41)
29. 4m31 - Meltdown In Class (2:07)
30. 4m32 - Autobots On The Move (1:01)
31. 4m33 - 18 Inches Of Meat (0:18)
32. 4m34 - Alice (0:55)
33. 4m35 - A Tounge Twister (0:53)
34. 5m36 - Library Destruction (1:31)
35. 5m38a - Helicopter Abduction (0:21)
36. 5m38b - Megatron And Sam (1:55)
37. 5m39 - Foundry Save To Forest Fight (1:04)
38. 5m40 - Forest Battle (1:00)
39. 5m41 - Optimus Vs. The Decepticons (0:50)
40. 5m42 - The Fallen's Arrival (5:09)
41. 5m44 - The Fallen's Broadcast (2:24)
42. 5m46 - A Fallen Prime (1:01)
43. 6m47 - Don't Give Up (2:25)
44. 6m48 - New Divide(Instrumental) (0:49)
45. 6m50a - Meatlocker (0:39)
46. 6m50b - Signs (1:43)
47. 6m50c - Language Of The Primes (0:39)
48. 6m50d - Air And Space Museum (1:15)
49. 7m51 - Searching The Museum (1:11)
50. 7m53 - Jetfire (1:54)
51. 7m54 - Spacebridge To Egypt (0:43)
52. 7m55 - History Of The Primes (3:35)
53. 8m56 - Run Like An Egyptian (0:50)
54. 8m57 - Delivery (2:48)
55. 8m58 - NEST E.T.A. (0:21)
56. 8m59 - Under The Stars / The Three Kings (1:20)
57. 8m60 - Bailout (2:17)
58. 8m62 - Infinite White (1:25)
59. 8m63 - Tomb Of The Primes (2:34)
60. 8m64 - The Drop (1:20)
61. 9m66 - It's Up To Simmons (0:50)
62. 9m67 - We Need An Assist (3:24)
63. 9m68 - Hide, Seek And Run (2:57)
64. 9m69 - Mudflap's Sacrifice (0:16)
65. 9m70 - The Twins Vs. Devastator (1:20)
66. 9m71 - Bumblebee's Fight (1:05)
67. 9m72 - Letting Go (1:32)
68. 9m73 - Simmons' Orders / Running For Optimus (4:12)
69. 10m74 - Precious Cargo (2:11)
70. 10m75 - Devastator Destroyed / F22's To Egypt (1:55)
71. 10m76 - The Dynasty Of Primes (4:22)
72. 10m77a - I Claim Your Sun (1:13)
73. 10m77b - Optimus Destroys The Harvester (1:23)
74. 10m77c - Optimus Vs. Megatron And The Fallen (0:33)
75. 10m78 - I Rise, You Fall (2:34)


Mr. Fate2011-09-10 22:10:42
Broham, your statement has somehow managed to contradict itself and poke a hole in the universe. You can't possibly have a track list to the complete score before we know of the existence of the complete score. This must mean that you've made up your own track list and cue and reel numbers (they look somewhat professional, btw).

However, quite a few of your cue names appear to be identical to someone's made-up track list which was posted on a shrine several months back. I assume you used some of the track titles from the list registered on ASCAP as well, eh?

Besides, if ever the real complete score surfaces, did you consider that it mist already have cue and reel numbers, and possibly even track titles, thereby making this list obsolete?


Anonimo2011-09-11 03:12:19
This tracklist is different to the ASCAP tracklist awesome!!!!


Papapalpatine772011-09-11 03:30:05
Yes, but it says 'here is a complete tracklist if there is ever a complete score to RotF'. This makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE!!!!!!!!!!


Mr. Fate2011-09-11 03:33:18
You guys should really read my first post here; I think it explains mostly everything.

Also, in the last paragraph, 'mist' is supposed to be 'might'.


Papapalpatine772011-09-11 03:55:16
Yes, I read it. Nothing new to take in. This list is nothing. You can't have a list that 'might' correspond to a complete score. I don't think RotF will ever see the light of day. Now DotM is another matter. We have a legit tracklist for that, and I KNOW for a fact it's real.


SnakesInPantaloons2011-09-11 05:11:55
No its my dvd rip


Jakeson2011-09-11 05:14:08
nice cover snakes, you weren't suppose to post this, let alone here! good luck getting this score from me now, "buddy" >:(


Mr. Fate2011-09-11 14:31:17
Um...Oopsies! Wait a minute--Snakes getting rare music that's real?

Come on, bro! A DVD rip complete with slate numbers? This, however, still doesn't explain why several of the tracks seem to match titles of the track list posted on the Shrine...

Is this seriously real, Jakeson?


Jakeson2011-09-11 15:37:30
nah I just wanted to scare the shit out of snakes. I gave him the tracklist, as its shows up on sheet music, but I have yet to find this rare gem myself, and it wouldn't surprise me if snake's attempts to make a dvd rip.


Mr. Fate2011-09-11 15:44:27
But this track list *is* legit, in the sense that if the sessions surfaced, these would be the titles? Well, that somewhat explains Snakes' contradictory statement.

How come several of the cue names match ones from that made up track list I keep mentioning?

Snakes already had his own track list.


Dimensioner2011-10-05 03:46:08
What...the heck is this?! So many of these track titles match the ones that I made up for my edit of the score. I suppose this is what Mr. Fate is referring to?

I even posted a bundle of these not too long ago. And no, they don't have slate numbers--it's a DVD rip. I just find it to be beyond pure coincidence that my track count is one fewer than this (and that's only because I grouped Snakes' 6m48 with the cue prior to it into a single track) and also that this track list borrows roughly TEN of my titles (not including the ones that match OST or Magic Box Music titles, of course).


Areozz2011-12-14 15:48:54
@Ahmad: clearly you did not read the posts following this fake-as-Twinkies track list. This whole track list is total BS and does NOT correspond to anything real aside from some dude watching the movie, documenting track lengths, making up some track names and then pulling some slate numbers out of his ass.

This can be confirmed by checking out the four new tracks for this film posted on Lorne Balfe's website. While Balfe had to make up track names instead of using the real official ones, due to whatever rule causes that to be necessary, I am confident the attached slate numbers are genuine. Try to find those slate numbers in this track list posted above and see if anything corresponds.

Also, as Dimensioner pointed out, several of the track titles were borrowed from his DVD rip of the score, and I find it hard to believe that he would have used official titles for a DVD rip, considering that the only official titles known are listed on ASCAP, and all we have are those titles to go from.

TL;DR: this track list is fake.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-10-05 05:55:26
SILVA SCREEN RECORDS PRESENTS
MUSIC FROM THE TRANSFORMERS TRILOGY

A stirring collection of Steve Jablonsky’s epic themes from one of the most successful recent franchises

Steve Jablonsky’s long association with Transformers director Michael Bay began in the 1990s, creating additional music for Armageddon, Pearl Harbor and Bad Boys II, and forming a close link with prolific composer Hans Zimmer. His career spans film, TV and video games and includes the remakes of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Amityville Horror and Friday The 13th.

Performed by the London Music Works.

Tracklisting:
1. Transformers - Autobots
2. Transformers - The All Spark
3. Transformers - Optimus
4. Transformers - Bumblebee
5. Transformers - Arrival To Earth
6. Transformers - Optimus Vs. Megatron
7. Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen - Nest
8. Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen - Infinite White
9. Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen - Tomb Of The Primes
10. Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen - Forest Battle
11. Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen - Matrix Of Leadership
12. Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen - Prime/I Rise, You Fall
13. Transformers: Dark Of The Moon: Dark Side Of The Moon
14. Transformers: Dark Of The Moon - Sentinel Prime
15. Transformers: Dark Of The Moon - It’s Our Fight
16. Transformers: Dark Of The Moon - Our Final Hope

* The digital release comes with an exclusive 17th digital only track and a downloadable booklet:

17. Transformers: Dark Of The Moon - Prelude (Trailer Music)

------------------------------------------------------------
CD: SILCD1365
US Release Date: October 11, 2011

Digital Album: SILED1365
US Release date: August 16, 2011


Jimmer reply Replies: 2 || 2011-07-31 20:29:04
I'd still like to here some of the demos of Hans Zimmer and Linkin Park and the track "New Divide." The little taste that we have of it in "Nest" is cool with the brass near the middle of the cue, but a full orchestral version of that song would be great under Zimmer's supervision. Just my two cents.


Dakota2011-07-31 21:10:19
It's way too short in the movie and it's a shame we don't have the piece where it plays again when Optimus and Bumblebee rescue Sam from Megatron


Ricky2011-08-13 20:46:07
I don't know why they didn't include in the score the part when Optimus and Bumblebee rescue Sam (the prelude to Forest Battle)... It's so powerful!!

Snakes reply Replies: 3 || 2011-07-18 04:08:56
For Some Odd Reason, I Think We're Getting Closer To A Release! I Have The Cover Posted And A New Tracklist(I Don't Think It Matches The Expanded Release Though)... But I Can Feel We're Getting Closer!!!!!


Dakota2011-07-27 08:30:45
*Magicboxmusic*


The Dimensioner2011-07-31 03:08:28
*responded to wrong post*


Dakota2011-07-31 06:22:47
Haha yup. Thought I'd just leave until someone had to say something

Phil reply Replies: 1 || 2011-07-16 11:49:28
I've the Additional Music by Tom Gire and John Sponsler
they're just 3 Tracks:

1. Signs (1:53)
2. Don't Give Up (2:44)
3. We Need An Assist / One Man (3:56)


zach2011-07-16 16:33:43
magicmusicbox

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-16 00:43:09
how can someone get unreleased music? how can we contact the composer or company?

Ricardo reply Replies: 25 || 2011-05-28 23:54:08
Still no news from the complete score?


Epix2011-05-29 00:42:45
I think a reason why complete / promo scores aren't released is due to many factors including. but not limited to:

1 - Film's success - a example of this I believe, if my memory serves me correct is xXx State of the Union by Marco Beltrami. From what I was told, the reason it wasn't released was lack in the film's box office success and popularity. So that may be a reason why a score doesn't get released.

2 - It has occurred to me that a lot of scores by Remote Control Productions composers aren't either complete or released. I think a reason for this is the fact that numerous composers from this group seem to contribute to a score. It seems that only the credited composers music are released officially, and a lot of the times other composers contributions aren't released.

3 - Also, some composers works just don't get released, whether because of film's success/popularity or the genre, or amount of score produced. Rupert Gregson-Williams and Teddy Castellucci are good examples of which not many of their works get released.

that's the main 3 I feel like typing up atm :D


Dakota2011-05-31 01:42:08
Guys, there is definitely something out there. This is from BMI:
h t t p://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher =True&blnArtist=True&page=1&keyid=11210296&ShowNbr=0&ShowSeq Nbr=0&querytype=WorkID

This track is called "Galloway Parachutes". There was also another one I saw titled "Reed Man", obviously the music playing after Ravage attacks the military base and the reed man transformer steals the shard.


Dakota2011-05-31 01:43:01
Ya, ok. Here's the complete tracklist:

17 000 B C
SHANGHAI
OPTIMUS TO THE RESCUE
FALLEN SHALL RISE AGAIN THE
SAM OFF TO COLLEGE
BUMBLE BEE OUT OF GARAGE
SHARD IS SAVED THE
NEST OPPS
GALLOWAY S ARRIVAL
GALLOWAY S ARRIVAL INSERT
GALLOWAY MEETS OPTIMUS
WHAT IF YOU RE WRONG
TECH HEAD
YOU WORK FOR ME NOW
HOT FRESHMAN
MOMMY HIGH
CAKEY SYMBOLS
YOU DON T NEED ME
DIVING FOR MEGATRON
FALLEN S LAIR THE
EIGHTEEN INCHES OF MEAT
ALICE GETS ANGRY
FOUNDRY SAVE TO FOREST FIGHT
FOREST BATTLE PT 1
FOREST BATTLE PT 2
FALLEN S ARRIVAL PT 1 THE
DON T GIVE UP
SIMMONS SYMBOLS
SEEKERS THE
WITWICKY
CAMERO ON THE RUN
SATAN S CAMERO
MODEL AIRPLANES JETFIRE UP TO
JETFIRE RAMBLES THE PLOT
POLICE CHASE
PLANNING THE DROP OOMPA
PYRAMID ROMANCE
SIMMONS TAKES IT OFF
THREE STARS THE
INFINITE WHITE PT 2
TOMB OF THE PRIMES
DROP THE
BUMBLE BEE WINS PARENTS SAY
LENNOX AND KIDS GET CLOSER
PRECIOUS CARGO
MATRIX OF LEADERSHIP
I CLAIM YOUR SUN
I RISE YOU FALL PT 1
I RISE YOU FALL PT 2




zach2011-05-31 02:07:21
anyone know if this exist to hear?


Dakota2011-05-31 02:12:25
I seriously, seriously hope it exists. I just go soooooo excited when I found it. I need this.


zach2011-05-31 02:13:01
where did you find it?


Dakota2011-05-31 02:22:11
BMI, so it's legit. I didn't just make this up.


zach2011-05-31 02:26:06
i wish we could buy it off BMI website.


Anonymous2011-05-31 03:39:19
chillllll, its not the real thing, every composer registers stuff on there, this is not the legit tracklist...

hopefully someone has the real deal, though


Dakota2011-05-31 04:38:12
SOMEONE had The Dark Knight. SOMEONE had Batman Begins. SOMEONE had A Nightmare on Elm Street. SOMEONE had National Treasure: Book of Secrets. My point is, SOMEONE definitely has this. Hrbrid had said back on The Dark Knight page that so so many things exist that we don't even know about. I know this exists. Someone has something, and maybe one day we will get it.


Uga2011-05-31 05:11:48
Just like Inception.


Dakota2011-05-31 05:24:36
EXACTLY, Uga. Just like Inception.


Fry2011-05-31 08:12:20
and also "The Thin Red Line"?


michel2011-06-03 18:45:21
They should create a bandcamp profile for Steve Jablonsky and put the files for the complete score on it. The same Klaus Badelt does. So, what does it cost? And it makes the fans happy. :)


Dakota2011-06-04 05:11:57
What is a bandcamp profile?


michel2011-06-04 16:06:06
Bandcamp is a platform, where artists can sell their music. Fans can buy and download the music in formats like MP3 or FLAC. The latest releases by Klaus Badelt are sold through bandcamp.
I mean it is not a big deal to sell music digitally via bandcamp. Though I do not know other reasons, why not releasing such great music.


Hybrid Soldier2011-06-04 16:41:14
It's simple !

RIGHTS !

I mean, if Klaus can release so much, it's because he signs contracts to OWN the rights of his scores, so he can do whatever he wants with it !

Stuff like Warner/Fox/Paramount/DreamWorks films, you'll never have deals like that... That's why !


michel2011-06-04 18:42:33
Didn't know it's that simple. But as I mentioned that _they_ should create for instance this kind of profile, I meant it can't be difficult to release more music digitally in a good quality (FLAC)?!


Dingmaster2011-07-15 15:14:52
Dakota. Nice find on this score. It looks like an expanded score instead of a recording session, but still works.

You said this website has music that we can listen to?
h t t p://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher =True&blnArtist=True&page=1&keyid=11210296&ShowNbr=0&ShowSeq Nbr=0&querytype=WorkID

Where did you find "Reed Man"? I noticed that the 'Ravage attack base' music is missing from the tracklist provided.


kaka2011-07-15 15:30:43
Dakota...The BMI Reptoir website doesnt list or show anything song related other than the composer working on the title. Where is all this coming from? Do you got a link?


kaka2011-07-15 15:33:15
INteresting that the tracklist does not include the tracks that Sponsler and Guire did...


Dakota2011-07-15 16:16:49
I simply Googled BMI and took it form there. That link to the BMI site is the only one I have. No clue why Tom Gire & John Sponsler's tracks are not listed....


Anonymous2011-07-15 19:12:21
> I mean, if Klaus can release so much, it's because he signs
> contracts to OWN the rights of his scores, so he can do whatever
> he wants with it !
> Stuff like Warner/Fox/Paramount/DreamWorks films, you'll never
> have deals like that...

Even though some of the music on his site (that you can get for free) is from just those studios :P


Dakota2011-07-15 21:59:14
The only link I have is that one from BMI, which I already posted. I don't think there's anything to get excited over, guys....


kaka2011-07-16 00:32:31
I wonder if researching those composers might yeild any info...

Danny reply Replies: 1 || 2011-07-14 14:56:07
Well, somebody knows where some expanded music is. Check this out. Completely new music from ROTF.

h t t p :/ /www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgNXV_RplV4&feature=related


SJ2011-07-14 18:56:49
Everyone has those cues, those cues are available on the magicboxmusic website

Richard reply Replies: 13 || 2011-07-01 01:08:11
Dakota, any news from that complete score list you found?


Dakota2011-07-01 02:50:37
Nothing =(

If I found it / had it by now, you guys would surely know. Someone I know says it's just the cues that the composer has to register with BMI, and that it's nothing. If I ever get it, you guys will know


Richard2011-07-01 07:18:43
Thanks for your answer, its good to know I'm not the only one who wants this score :)


Dakota2011-07-01 20:54:17
No problem. I would die to get a complete release.....


Anonymous2011-07-02 03:09:10
Expanded one is coming...


Mike C. 2011-07-02 03:22:02
Expanded one is coming? How do you know?


Anonymous2011-07-02 05:57:46
Coming to a shrine near you soon!


Noble 2011-07-02 07:43:50
What does coming to a shrine near you for? Is it coming out or not.


Dakota2011-07-02 07:50:35
Very nice. Enough said =)


Gregson2011-07-02 12:53:59
Fuck Yeah!!!!!Complete recordings from Angels & Demons is coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Anonymous2011-07-02 13:13:53
where and when? fromwhere did you get the informations?


T-Mann0362011-07-02 17:06:14
I don't give a rat's butt if Revenge of the Fallen is complete or expanded, I want 'em all!!!!!!!!


David2011-07-02 18:28:49
I hope to be able to get a hold of it because 43 mins and those few tracks found elsewhere just still miss out on so many amazing cues - mainly for me the opening action scene and when the bots rescue sam from hmmmm (having his brain tampered with!!)


zach2011-07-05 15:57:59
a FULL release for DOTM??!?! :)

SJ reply Replies: 0 || 2011-07-01 02:11:24
In terms of release, Dark of the Moon takes the win. More music, more action music, however they didn't utilize a lot of themes in Dark of the Moon.

Revenge of the Fallen probably has the better score of the three. However, the release sucks, and hardly features any of the action pieces...or at least, complete pieces.

Gloriane reply Replies: 1 || 2011-06-15 17:29:49
This forum needed shankig up and youÂ’ve just done that. Great post!


Dakota2011-06-16 00:45:10
No it did not. GO THE F AWAY

Mitch reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-14 13:20:22
Your asewnr was just what I needed. ItÂ’s made my day!

Shanna reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-14 06:48:11
Wow! That's a raelly neat answer!

Kasara reply Replies: 3 || 2011-06-13 23:56:13
No more s***. All posts of this qlautiy from now on


Dakota2011-06-14 02:50:26
What are you talking about?


Charlie Sheen2011-06-14 02:58:52
he's the troll thats been tryin to run this website. xD sorry I had to use this name as my post, just to perfect to pass up lol but seriously, GET LOST TROLL!


Dakota2011-06-14 03:37:08
Yup, now that I see what scores have the latest comments, I realize. THE MODERATORS NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS!!!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2011-03-24 00:00:00
Dakota, please, stop requesting and posting your email... This is not a supermarket ! :S


doesnt matter!2011-06-05 00:47:46
your annoying and arrogant.

Michael reply Replies: 3 || 2011-05-04 18:26:37
HI.I like to now which song is played in T2:RotF starts in 2:04:11.PLZ help


Dakota2011-05-10 04:00:55
Michael, the music heard at that part when the jets are taking off from the ship is a slightly different rendition of "Skorponok" from the first film. It's also on the first film's commercial soundtrack.


Michael2011-05-10 10:35:13
You saved my life Mate.beer for you :D


Dakota2011-05-10 17:07:50
Thanks :-)

Adam Krysinski reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-26 14:34:24
Megakult!!!

Evenstar reply Replies: 3 || 2011-04-26 09:57:49
Score for Transformers 3 available for pre-order!
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B004XKR6NC/
This title will be released on June 7, 2011.


Adrian2011-04-26 11:00:33
NO WAY :-)
This is great news... Less than 2 months to go!


Andrew2011-04-26 13:08:13
That date does not sound right. Why would they offer "the score" a month earlier than the film's release date? July 7th would make more sense.


Adrian2011-04-26 13:38:24
Andrew, sounds plausible, but it's not impossible they release something prior to the film's release. Look what they did for Atli's Season of the Witch...

Bar reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-21 17:16:31
Does anyone knows anything about the transformers 3 score?
like how many tracks ?

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-21 00:00:00
Expanded, Complete, Recording Sessions, whatever. I'll take anything at this point. It's coming up on 2 years now. The Transformers complete score came out not long after the first film. I hope Dark of the Moon is much longer than Revenge of the Fallen is, it's way too short.

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-20 00:00:00
This is why we need a complete score for T2, to fully appreciate how Steve incorporated "New Divide" into the overall score. I'm excited by the prospect of T3 being darker too!

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-04-20 00:00:00
I am so freaking excited they're doing the theme song again. This makes the trilogy that much better. Is Steve working with LP on the score again? I hope so. I love how New Divide was incorporated into ROTF's score. Maybe since it's coming up on 2 years now, there will be a complete score release for this. It's my second favorite ever.....

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