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Think about Gemini Man, the score come out the same day as the movie (in that case, 11th October), and the details come the same week.<br><br>We'll likely get final details towards the end of the week or early next week. I guess I'm just a little surprised that it's taken this long. The movie had surprise screenings either yesterday or the day before, so it seems like everything's pretty final.Sorry, that is the wrong link above (film version)<br><br>This is the track I'm talking about. Does anyone recognize this version.<br><br>https://youtu.be/etkri6OKLpEThere is an expanded score album with the track called "Sniper/Border Post". It is different from the piece used in the film. Does anyone know the true identity of that track. I like the synth sound and the male vocal singing/wailing/crying in this cue.<br><br>https://youtu.be/DbENmej_cH0But the scores comes out in 1th November
The movie is out this Wednesday in some territories."In the third one he writes the "father and son" theme, it's okay but it's harmonically basic and the melody is UNMEMORABLE"<br><br><br>Aaaaaaaaaaaaand your whole analysis falls flat right there ! :PThanks Edmund.<br><br>@PaulH I am not meaning to say that Balfe cannot compose good music. There are compositions that I like: the Picasso theme is creative and well-written. Just that I find his arrangements of others more compelling usually than his own material.<br><br>An example that is good of this is kung fu panda. His arrangements of themes are really fun and energetic. In the third one he writes the "father and son" theme, it's okay but it's harmonically basic and the melody is unmemorable. Contrast to Hans: the Po theme and Spirit theme are precise, fun, harmonically clever, and memorable. But his score cues sometimes feel lacking: his transitions are clunky, the bridge material is uncreative and basic. <br><br>It must be so much fun to work on those projects together. Coming up with idea and hearing what someone can turn it into, or getting to play with someone's idea without the pressure of starting from scratch.And also, be prepared for more Studio Time for the scoreTom said in his Twitter: 'Details very soon'<br><br>Altough, is only a week away
The Nils Frahm track was released years agoNo one is mentioning "Says" from Nils Frahm. What a masterpiece of music. Love how it develops and getting so emotional even with that futuristic sound-effect. One of the highlights of this score, with those tracks Cerbei mentioned.Balfe is a great arranger but an even better composer.Beyond Two Souls is still one of the best game soundtracks.<br><br>I must have watched another movie in regards to Balfe filling in the gaps - that makes no sense?The soundtrack released seems not to relate to what was actually used in the film.Balfe “gap” music is featured much more and works brilliantly<br>Last night I was talking to Lorne, and he told me that in principle there is intention to release the full score.
I'd be very interested to hear the supposed Balfe complete score to picture where he apparently sought to elevate it, as someone here put it. The Richter is pitch-perfect and works massively well to picture and, not dissing Balfe at all, his stuff is literally 'additional music' to fill the gaps.Aplusle, that's really well put actually.Don't feel bad. You've just summed up why Hans and Lorne make a good team. Lorne is by all accounts a fantastic arranger and can bring out the best in others' ideas but I sometimes find his own compositions are a bit basic or leave me cold. Hans on the other hand always nails the theme and the concept but his scoring to picture to me feels clunky and a bit amateurish, especially when the music is dense. <br><br>Both super talented in their own ways. :-)Is there anyway o get sheet music for Into the pie machine for orchestra?Just saw Maleficent 2. There is a lot more Newton Howard in the movoe than there is on album.<br>I actually can't really understand why they didn't include the reprise of The Christening (the dinner scene) & the finale in the movie.<br><br>Zanelli's score is wonderful and I love it very much. But would have loved this on album
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Transformers - Revenge Of The Fallen
Label: Reprise Records
Length: 43'56
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  1. Prime (2:14)
    Steve Jablonsky
  2. Einstein's Wrong (3:35)
    Steve Jablonsky
  3. Nest (2:08)
    Linkin Park, Steve Jablonsky, Ryeland Allison
  4. The Shard (2:42)
    Steve Jablonsky, Lorne Balfe
  5. The Fallen (4:03)
    Steve Jablonsky
  6. Infinite White (3:58)
    Steve Jablonsky
  7. Heed Our Warning (4:26)
    Steve Jablonsky
  8. The Fallen's Arrival (3:47)
    Steve Jablonsky, Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  9. Tomb Of The Primes (2:47)
    Steve Jablonsky
  10. Forest Battle (2:04)
    Steve Jablonsky
  11. Precious Cargo (1:38)
    Steve Jablonsky
  12. Matrix Of Leadership (3:50)
    Steve Jablonsky
  13. I Claim Your Sun (3:06)
    Steve Jablonsky
  14. I Rise, You Fall (3:35)
    Steve Jablonsky
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Sam Spiteri reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-15 00:00:00
Where's the clip of I Rise, You Fall????

Cheers

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-15 00:00:00
@ nomnom
Not "Bumblebee" but "You're a Soldier Now", from the scene where Sam runs of with the cube until Optimus arrives in Mission City and transforms.

@bay

If this is really from the ROTF Score then i think were in for a treat, the feel of that cue is Transformers all the way. It bodes well for the new score. Hope it has high moments like "Arrival to Earth".

As for the 1st score, is the full score 2 CD edition put to rest or is Warner still thinking about it?

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-15 00:00:00
That sucks. Let's just hope they're 43 eppic minutes.

At Amazon.de there are now 6 samples:
The Fallen Arrives - Eppic and chilling;

Tomb of the Primes - This just might be this scores "Arrival to Earth", though it has half the length;

Forest Battle - Kicks Ass;

The Shard - Fast Paced but the more generic from the 6;

Precious Cargo - Knowing what the precious cargo is, i understand the sad and majestic feel of this one;

I Claim Your Sound - The films endgame cue, reminiscent of "Downtown Battle" in the use of certain sounds, ear it and you'll understand what i mean;

All in all, it seems despite the sucky length, this score will still deliver though i'm guessing that like the first one, it will have the fans wanting more.
The 2 CD full score never came despite good sales and if not for that 52 track promo score, we would still be waiting. Hope the same happens for ROTF. Or tha Warner wises up and give people what they want. FULL SCORES.

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-15 00:00:00
OOPS!!! That last one should read "I Claim Your Sun"... Sound?WTH? Gotta take my meds...LOL

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-15 00:00:00
OK, small update. Full score samples at Amazon.de.
"Prime" is the "Autobots" from this score, recurring in other tracks, mainly in the beautiful "Tomb of the Primes", "Matrix of Leadership" and the haunting "Infinite White". This sounds awesome. Now i'm really counting the days. I'll end up buying the MP3s so i can ear it until the CD arrives. Did it with first and will do it with this. Kudos Mr. Jablonsky, kudos.

Miles reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-15 00:00:00
Absolutely incredible! Jablonsky and Co. have really outdone themselves, judging by what I've heard so far. Admittedly, a longer CD would have been nice, but even a 1:38 track can sound longer than it actually is. We should probably be grateful that Warners needing no prodding this time to release a score.

Favorite Tracks:

Prime
Einstein's Wrong
The Fallen
Infinite White
Tomb of the Primes
Forest Battle
Matrix of Leadership

A Sentient Being reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-15 00:00:00
@Hybrid Soldier

At first, I thought the first score was 60 min long because of the demand by the fans. In fact, I thought the fist score would never have seen the light of day if not for the fans (us!) who signed all those petitions. However, this second score was already planned and thus I thought is official and having less music on it.

But, after your explanation I can see you are right. This has nothing to do with fans' demand, but (unfortunately) new economic situation...

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-15 00:00:00
And then they complain about bootleg CDs and DLs. I would have gladly pay 2 or 3 times the price of the original CD Score for a Full Score 2 CD Box. But since they don't publish it i have to make do with the original CD and the promo scores. It's not all there but its better than what they gave us.

Skyler reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-15 00:00:00
That's interesting information, Hybrid - it explains quite a bit.
But exactly how much are reuse fees? Does anyone know?
Also, how do the costs compare to creating a digital download-only version? It seems to me like it might be a good idea to release the commercial CD then have a complete/expanded score available on itunes or Amazon mp3 at a later date.
(That's what they did with David Arnold's score to Casino Royale).

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-15 00:00:00
Hybrid Soldier....
Thanks!!! Wow...never new that :)

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-15 00:00:00
Adrian...no wonder half the world wants to LIVE in America!

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-15 00:00:00
No wonder half the world hates America!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-15 00:00:00
Regarding the length, there's an explanation...

Bob Badami, who co-produced the score, told me how it works...

In the US, when you make a movie, you HAVE to use a US orchestra...

And the law in the US is => on a CD, each 15 minutes of music put on a CD, you pay reuse fees...

A 15 minutes costs a price, then for 30, it's more expensive, for 45, more etc...

On Transformers 1, they ran the risk (with the success of the film, the high demand on the score) to put 60 minutes...

For that CD, unfortunately, they did not invest on 60 min like the previous one, that's why we get a 44 min CD...

It's sad, yes, but logical... :P

MK reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-15 00:00:00
At Amazon.de you can hear samples from all 14 score tracks. They sound very huge and entertaining but too much like Gears of War 2.

Deakins reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-15 00:00:00
By the samples, the score seems to be less good than the first one.
Tracks which seem to be good :

1. Prime-- new theme, this is the slightly modifyied of th rejected version of'Arrival to Earth'.
3.NEST-- fusion of linkin park and jablonsky elements smell good.
6. Infinite White -- "Optimus Prime" style with female vocal arrangements.
7. Tomb of the Primes -- A pure jablonsky composition!
12. Matrix of Leadership -- Another version, more dense of the new 'Transformers' theme.
14. I Rise, You Fall -- Reprise of the new theme. Appearly, the score seems to be repetitive...

So, a good score but which has the perfume of "not enough"...

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-15 00:00:00
I admit this one seems to be less spectacular than the first (by the samples, i reserve full judgement to friday), but come on, the 1st score was so epic we all knew it would be hard to top. Still, this one seems to be a solid piece of work that is sure to compliment the 1st score. Also, what i think is missing is, and this hapened to me with some less enjoyable cues from the 1st movie and with many other scores, we're still missing that raport that comes from associating the music with the visuals. They add to the experience and make you ear and feel the music in a different way.

Score reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-15 00:00:00
Only ~41min? Thats too short... i hope there will be a complete score.

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-15 00:00:00
Wow... the score sounds awesome! Infinite White sounds real good, but the woman should be shut up... :P Even NEST sounds good!

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-14 00:00:00
At www.steve-jablonsky.ch there are 2 clips of music that play randomly, it seems when you open the page. One is a piece of the song "New Divide", the 2nd is a piece of "You're a Soldier Now" from the 1st score. The 3rd, however, though it sounds like something out of the 1st score, seem to be something new. It's either a sample from this new score or a previously unreleased track from the 1st film. Take a listen and tell me what you think.

Griff reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-14 00:00:00
hey, i am really looking forward to the soundtrack it's bound to have some really awesome music on there i am exspecially waiting for NEST and the matrix of leadership - gonna be awesome.

Mikel S.i.W (from Spain) reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-14 00:00:00
Anywone know the length of the disc? I pre-order last week and i´m waiting xD

Frank reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-14 00:00:00
@ westfall

I think the songs are:

- New Divide (ughh)
- music from the part where Sam runs with the Cube
- and "Bumblebee" from the score album

westfall reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-14 00:00:00
@Frank

I've heard "Bumblebee" hundreds of times and its not it. The track that resembles that clip the most is the the 2nd half of "Sam on the Roof" but the instrumentation is different. I guess it may also be from any other Jablonsky score but it has a definite Transformers feel to it.

nomnom reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-14 00:00:00
westfalls impression of the SAm on the Roof track being different is correct - it IS a different variation. The others are new divide and the Bumblebee track....hmmm....

bay reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-14 00:00:00
clips ov transformers revenge of the fallen score

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-14 00:00:00
clips ov i rise you fall

Klaas reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-13 00:00:00
I recently noticed Hans is credited for Additional Music?! Is there any extra information available about this? I must admit it sounded funny though, the master serves his (ex-)novice...

A Sentient Being reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-13 00:00:00
This CD is available on June 19 on German Amazon.de!!!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-13 00:00:00
No, Klaas, no extra info for now...


But HZ does this all the time, more or less directly... ;)

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