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See, I don't find Inception or Interstellar (or Thin Red Line) all that "complex". Especially not compared to At World's End (how many themes are in that score, like 15? 20? Pretty much all of which show up in rapid succession during the Maelstrom battle?). The Nolan scores are more about building up around very simple conceptual ideas.<br><br>Unless you're talking about emotional complexity, which is a very different thing and not really possible to objectively judge...You know, I don't think I've ever really gotten the full story surrounding that score. I've heard conflicting reports. My personal belief is that Ross did little to no substantial composition and that all the new stuff (themes, suites, new cues and also significantly fresh arrangements of old material) is pure Williams, but that film is full of reused music from the first film (it's actually quite frustrating, not as bad as On Stranger Tides or as heartbreaking as The Hobbit, but a bit of a rehashy mess and it makes the key error of using the Philosopher's Stone motif as a Voldemort theme). That's where I think Ross comes in and was responsible for taking those cues verbatim from the first film and tweaking/rearranging them just enough to match the timings of the scenes without actually adding any of his "own" notes. His role is likely somewhere between additional music, arrangement and music editing (but as Hybrid likes to point out, oftentimes those sorts of roles are really blurred and overlapping anyways).<br><br>A guy at jwfan did an analysis that helps understand the nature of that score, but be warned, it goes *really* deep:<br><br>www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27619-finished-chamber -of-secrets-thematic-and-originality-analysis/I'm trying to be objective* (sorry haha)@Anonymous Zimmer's best? Well... I'm trying to be subjective:<br>IMO The Thin Red Line remains the pinnacle of Hans' career from an artistic point of view. It's a turning point, though we've been used to this kind of writing since (so many scores have copied TTRL).<br><br>Inception and (especially) Interstellar are superior pieces of scoring as well. Their level of complexity is unmatched in Zimmer's discography.<br>Gladiator is another impressive score, as it combines some of the best action music, best drama and deepest emotions Hans has ever composed for a movie.<br><br>Seems like I'm quite objective here, as none of my favorites scores are on this list ! ;)Interesting you mention William Ross' role in Chamber of Secrets because I've never fully understood what his exact involvement was. Was he just an additional music composer? Or did he actually compose most of the score with John Williams only writing the suites? Just curious if you know.
I mean, the thematic situation *is* a bit messy. You've got new themes by Powell, one new Williams theme adapted by Powell, and then existing Star Wars themes adapted by Powell. I agree the credits are a bit long-winded but I can't think of a more concise way to convey all that information.<br><br>What does bother me (and maybe this is my inner fanboy talking) is that it seems to downplay Powell's role a bit, listing him second and with the use of the word "adapted" which makes him feel a bit second fiddle. Remember how William Ross "adapted" Williams' music for Chamber of Secrets, by which was meant largely copying and pasting bits from Sorcerer's Stone? I have no doubt that Powell has done a far, far more substantial job here (and they do say "composed and adapted", to be fair). Then again, it's a Star Wars score, and of course they're going to put Williams' name front and center as much as possible no matter what.<br><br>This is all such nitpicking of the highest order :pHans for Star Wars ?<br><br><br>Never.<br><br><br>Ron probably asked him first and Hans probably was like "JOHN POWELL !!"What would have happened if Ron Howard would have been the first choice to direct Solo? He would have chosen James Horner (if he wasn't dead) or try to convince Hans Zimmer to do the music. The only collaboration between Howard and maestro Williams was in the movie Far And Away.Poster in SpainA Star Wars score that sounds like a Powell score? I'm in.<br><br>From what I've heard of many people, the score is really great and apart from the Williams theme, I heard Powell also had a lot of great themes.<br><br>I cannot wait for it!
Your source?Just saw the film, really fun and faced paced movie. The score is great, it has a solid main theme by John Williams (not as great as Rey theme though) but still memorable and john powell adapts this main theme in various variations throughout the film. Star Wars fan might be dissapointed by the score because this overall sounds like a typical Powell score which doesn’t really sound like a typical Star Wars movie. Still fans of Powell will love this new score.La La-Land is going to release the scorePowell adapted ideas from Williams (i think in one interview, he saids the new themes come from tunes by Williams)Music providen by additional composers, mean like, diferent version or re-arranged parts from a cue
Sorry about my lack of knowledge on this...but somebody can explain me what means "Additional Music"?.<br><br>I know somebody composed the score, sometimes the same person is the arranger or orchestrator (like ussually do John Williams), but "Additional Music"??? I'm lost like always...Anyone else think the credits are too complicated? Why not just have "Han Solo theme by John Williams" and "Score by John Powell"? I know that Powell directly quotes some Williams cues, but I dunno. That's an overly complicated cover, in my opinion.I saw it in Paris, amazing show, my favourite after Zimmer's oneI think that credit connected with John Williams's music from the original Star Wars movies. So, Herbert Spencer was the original orchstrator on the first three movies (New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The Jedi). More of that, he's been credited on Rogue One: A Star Wars Story as orchestrator. All other people usually works with John Williams, except Mark Graham, who's heading music preparation in almost every Hollywood movies now (Jo Ann Kane Music Services)I am increasingly seeing two separate credits for the orchestration role: one being the usual "Orchestrated By" and the other is this "Additional Orchestrations" credit. I can understand what one might mean by "additional music" but what differentiates these two orchestration roles from one another?
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The Taking Of Pelham 123
Label: Sony Pictures Entertainment
Length: 45'00
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  1. Something On The Track (4:36)
  2. "It's Me, Man!" (4:09)
  3. Rigged Contracts (3:44)
  4. An Ass Model Named Lavitka (6:25)
  5. Money Run (1:04)
  6. Garber Meets Ryder (3:06)
  7. All Others Pay Cash (5:37)
  8. The Train Leaves The Station (3:51)
  9. The Lights Are All Green! (5:14)
  10. Manhattan Bridge (5:06)
  11. "You A Yankees Fan?" (1:59)
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Antas, Webmaster reply Replies: 0 || 2010-02-08 00:00:00
@Hakki : please do not ask for illegal downloads

hakk&#305; reply Replies: 0 || 2010-02-07 00:00:00
hello I'm Hakki

Do you want downloading in soundtracks ?

Please Help Me Dowload Soundtracks

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2010-01-18 00:00:00
I wish "money run" was longer, sounds so damn cool.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-20 00:00:00
We really need more music from you Harry, you are really amazing if you asked me.

Lasse reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-20 00:00:00
what is the soundtrack in the opening of the movie ?

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-20 00:00:00
'99 Problems' by Jay Z

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
This score is amazing, Harry you Rocks.

Antas, Webmaster reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-17 00:00:00
new extracts added

Reznor2112 reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-16 00:00:00
FYI...

The track in the credits with the heavy drums and guitars is by A Perfect Circle - "Count Bodies Like Sheep To The Rhythm of the War Drums"

Sato reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-15 00:00:00
Great score!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-15 00:00:00
Harry Gregson-Williams' scores never cease to amaze me :)

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-14 00:00:00
I'm liking this one too. Not too good but the electronics and synths develop a nice, suspenseful atmosphere which I think is suitable for the movie.

HGW Rocks! reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-14 00:00:00
AWESOME SCORE!!! I absolutely love this music; Good job Mr. Gregson-Williams...you never disappoint!

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Pelham reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-14 00:00:00
*deja vu

Pelham reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-14 00:00:00
The score reminds me too much to Men on Fire and Deju Vu... nothing new and just a temp score... :(

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-13 00:00:00
That is simply because the studio licenses source pieces into the movie... at a price.
If they then want to use that same licensed piece on a soundtrack
thats gonna cost the studio even more money & that's why you don't usually get these pieces on soundtracks.... unless the deal done includes a soundtrack release too.

EB reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-13 00:00:00
Just saw Pelham 123...nice score but I was blown away by the end creds music....percussion and super guitar track....is it Peter Destefano??? I see he has creds listed fr Pelham 123 on his MySpace page. I want to hear this track again....how can I find it and how do I get it?
If record producers would actually reproduce and market what songs we hear in the movie, the record buying public would be much happier. I cannot tell you the number of soundtracks I have purchased and the songs are NOT the ones in the movie. RIP OFF!

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-09 00:00:00
The Train Leaves the Station = Final comfrotation from Enemy Of The State?

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-09 00:00:00
Déjà Vu :D

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-09 00:00:00
AWESOME!!! Job well done...great score!

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-09 00:00:00
Man I hope this better than the Wolverine score. Seeing how this is a semi techno-thriller. I hope Harry goes back to the awesomeness of Enemy of The State and Spy Game.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-09 00:00:00
Now up on I-Tunes UK, so there is a digital release too.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-07 00:00:00
They don't sell well because they don't market them well. The only way we can find out about scores is through forums like this...that not many people know about. Half the time stores don't even carry them until well after their official release date. Perhaps if studios paid to have them advertised in sale adds they might do better. There are plenty of people out there who want these scores, they just need to make it easier for us to find them!!!!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-07 00:00:00
Right !

And that's one of the main reasons why our website is here ! :D

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-07 00:00:00
I have a pressed CD of the Spirit... It's a Silva Screen pressing, it was even in Dutch stores for a very low price...

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-07 00:00:00
Adrian...
How did you obtain it??? Is there a way we can order it here in the states??? Thanks!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-07 00:00:00
Adriaan is right...


Amazon first sold The Spirit as CD-R, before Silva Screen released a proper pressed CD... :)

DemonStar reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-06 00:00:00
If it's anything like Spy Game then it'll be great! Eagerly waiting.

Kristi reply Replies: 0 || 2009-06-06 00:00:00
What does it mean available as CD-R from Amazon.com????

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