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So what happened to the credits here? It used to be a mixture of solo Atli cues with Atli/Dave Fleming, and now all three guys are credited for every track even though Tillman is only listed as a musician? Is this like with Armageddon, where the "official" credits aren't as accurate as the older ones were? :pMost of the album is comprised of suites, with one consistent tempo per track. <br><br>The material that was scored to picture was scored using the risset rhythm technique, which gave a lot of those tracks their "infinitely getting faster" feeling in the film, so the tempo is always climbing in the film versions. The suites have a stable tempo (except for a couple normal tempo changes, which are different)Not really any... "Nothing Out There" contains the sad piano theme from Begins and Dark Knight, but otherwise the themes that get reprised are pretty much Hans stuff. <br><br>Speaking of credits, any chance the complete score page could be updated with what's out there and official?Could somebody tell me in what cues JNH's themes appear on album?Thanks MIKE, Any ideas of how can I Google it?
Yeah, that cue was either a last minute rewrite or one of the music editors did it.... As for where you can find it...Google is your friend. But it's not going to be available anywhere officially.I think it will be in between NOT ORDINARY CITIZEN / THE SLOW KNIFE and IMAGINE THE FIRE, Does anybody know where can I find it?<br>I noticed that this score doesn't has the soundtrack of the part where Blake is taking the people to the bridge and he is discusing with the other police officer before he blows the bridgeThat's right, I forgot about that... And I totally agree about the score vs. the album. I had no use for this score on album at first, but now that I've watched the movie a few times, I can really hear the logic behind the score and I "get it." <br><br>I still don't get the music as heard on album, though. Are the longer pieces some early suites Hans wrote? Or did he specifically make these arrangements for the album? Do you know the answer to that one, Hybrid?I wanna say I heard the full Cat Suite somewhere... I can't remember if it was legit, but it was 15:39 and it was indeed quite repetitive. It was basically the Selina Kyle Suite from the Z+ app, along with demos of several of the Catwoman-related cues in the final score. If you've listened through the score, you've basically heard the unreleased stuff.
@Mike<br>Zimmer has said in interviews that he “mapped out” the film with one long piece of music to establish the changing tempo of the story, and apparently the script was written to capture the rhythmic feel of the film. So from the very beginning the story was always split up between the three.<br><br>I think a big part of the initial disappointment with the score was the album presentation, which gives off the impression that the music is just some sound design that Zimmer threw together (this is how I personally felt when I first gave it a listen). In actuality it’s a technically impressive score, I really can’t think of any other film score that is so synchronized with a film’s tempo and flows as one long piece of music. Apparently it was a nightmare for Hans, especially when the smallest edits to the film would ruin the flow.<br><br>Doing the 59-minute album was a pretty big disservice to the whole purpose of the music. If you remove one piece the whole thing falls apart, which is part of the reason the album feels so disjointed.Anyone here listened "The Predator" FYC score? <br>Any chance to compare tracklist and running time with official release?These versions suites haven't been officially released, but maybe you can find them somewhere around the Internet unofficially.<br><br>As for the Cat Suite, the most important parts of it can be found in "Selina Kyle" (it's a shortened version of it actually) and "Mind if I cut in?" from the OST. I remember that Hybrid once said that the 15mins Cat Suite was too repetitive, that's why a 5min only version was released, so maybe you are just fine with those two.<br>Where can I listen to the Cat Suite? Or is it literally: Selina Kyle Theme? <br>The Mole P1 (0-1:57)<br>Regimental Brothers P1 (0-1:19)<br>The Mole P2 (1:57-3:44)<br>Regimental Brothers P3 (2:44 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier<br>Supermarine P1 (0-2:47)<br>The Mole P3 (3:45 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back (again) <br>Supermarine P2 (*5:33)<br>Impulse<br>The Tide<br>Home <br>The Oil <br>Variation 15<br>End Credits <br><br>As everyone said already, the album is made up of suites that combine several cues and several "sounds" used in various places. For example, the is a sound in The Mole (At 2:05) that sounds like a fuse being ignited. This sound is actually right after The Tide in the film.<br>The only tracks that are almost identical to the film are: The Tide, Variation 15 and End Credits, the rest is different. <br><br>So if you were to order the tracks as first heard in the film it would be: <br>The Mole <br>Regimental Brothers <br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier <br>Supermarine <br>Impluse <br>The Tide <br>Home <br>The Oil<br>Variation 15<br>End credits<br><br>As much as I enjoyed listening to this release, I wish they didn't butcher the score the way they did. I like the suites but there are so many great cues in this film that weren't released. If only they released an isolated score track on Blu-ray. Listening to film extracts is just not enough.
I noticed that as well — the ticking goes all through the movie, except for the boat scenes, and only stops when they get on the train. <br><br>I wonder...could the film have originally been shot so that the beach, sea, and air sequences were there own arcs, and the longer album tracks were written for that? And then Nolan went in and turned the movie into the frenetic, constantly cutting-back-and-forth final product? <br><br>While the album is fine, I personally don't understand why we couldn't have just gotten the film cues. They might have had to stitch several together for each track, but it could have worked.Does anyone know where you can get a digital version of the Japanese versions 2 bonus tracks?Comparing it to YFM’s sfx edit this is what I’ve got;<br><br>“The Mole” seems to be an alternate of the opening sequence. The first minute or so is used, while the rest isn’t. “We Need Our Army Back/Regimental Brothers” are both made up of several cues from different points in the film. <br>“Home” is completely different in the film, which makes me think it may have been recorded specifically for the album. Similar situation with “Oil”. <br>“Supermarine” is definitely a suite. The rest is chronological.<br><br>Interesting thing to note, it seems like a lot of the tempo changes/ticking effects/bass overlays were removed from the album release, making almost every track sound different from the actual film versions. The music in context has a constant pulse going, especially in the way cues segue into each other and change tempo.It's not really possible to chronologically order the album because the album doesn't use the same tracks as the movie. Plus, the album is more or less chronological anyway, given the areas where they are the same.<br>With the complete cue sheet out now. Does anyone know what the chronological order of the album would be?
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The Bourne Supremacy (Expanded Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 107'43
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CD1
  1. Goa Flashback (1:18)
  2. Goa Flashback (Demo) (1:02)
  3. New Memories (2:16)
  4. New Memories (Alternate) (2:48)
  5. New Memories (Alternate II) (1:36)
  6. New Memories (Alternate III) (2:15)
  7. New Memories (Demo) (1:59)
  8. Morning Run (1:45)
  9. Morning Run (Demo) (1:50)
  10. Goa Chase (4:55)
  11. Underwater (2:18)
  12. The Drop (3:51)
  13. Exposition (1:43)
  14. Funeral Pyre (2:19)
  15. Gathering Data (1:51)
  16. Customs (1:44)
  17. Bourne Again (5:30)
  18. Nach Deutschland (2:39)
  19. Nach Deutschland (Demo) (2:37)
  20. Toaster Bomb-Diner (2:26)
  21. To The Roof (6:34)
  22. To The Roof (Demo) (4:59)
CD2
  1. Alexanderplatz (3:10)
  2. Tube Flashback (1:18)
  3. Room 645 (4:47)
  4. Berlin Foot Chase (5:17)
  5. Abbott Spews (Part 1) (2:32)
  6. Abbott Spews (Part 2) (1:32)
  7. Death Of Abbott (1:31)
  8. To Moscow (2:15)
  9. Moscow Wind Up (7:54)
  10. Moscow Wind Up (Demo) (7:09)
  11. Road Rage (5:09)
  12. Irena (3:05)
  13. Atonement (1:33)
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JB reply Replies: 0 || 2018-09-27 08:22:35
Is there a chance of a rearranged and proper track listing for this score?

TPM reply Replies: 2 || 2010-03-22 00:00:00
There's actually a track missing on here - the scene where Bourne looks for Neski's hotel on the computer, it was used in Ultimatum too in a similar scene


Mike2012-12-29 09:38:19
Later reply, I know, but notice, this is only listed as an "expanded" score. Therefore, some cues would definitely be missing. Heck, even if it were considered complete, it's still possible that some cues wouldn't be listed--say, for example, if they were added later on. The Dark Knight Rises comes to mind. This site has a page for TDKR's complete score, but I can think, off the top of my head, of some cues that are missing from the list.


VJD2016-04-13 21:53:38
The track I believe you are looking for is Hotel Brecker above...

Mike reply Replies: 8 || 2015-08-11 19:18:33
So I was having a Bourne marathon this week, and I know this isn't gonna happen, if Greengrass' and Powell's relationship is as bad as it sounds, but I *really* wish Powell could be convinced to come back and score the fifth movie. On Supremacy and Ultimatum especially, his music really drives the film and ramps up the intensity and suspense. His absence was sorely felt in Legacy, IMO, and if the studio wants to reignite Bourne franchise fervor, they'll need to do all they can to get Powell, and Bourne's signature sound, back.


Edmund Meinerts2015-08-11 19:59:30
It would certainly be nice, although probably in violation of Powell's current work ethic (he's said a lot about staying away from violent films, only scoring things his son can watch etc). To be honest, you can see the cracks showing in the Greengrass/Powell relationship in Ultimatum...so many cues from Identity and Supremacy temped in to replace Powell's far superior original cues that you can hear on the complete score. But I think that Powell still would have had the capability to further develop the franchise sound - he wasn't out of things to say.

If not Powell, I certainly hope the franchise can find a worthier replacement than James Newton Howard's bore-fest that was Legacy. Hell, his own Salt is a far better Bourne score than Legacy.


Mike2015-08-11 21:33:35
"...he wasn't out of things to say."

My thoughts exactly. Like you said, a lot of the new material in Ultimatum ended up replaced with temp tracks from Supremacy, but you could tell listening to Ultimatum as originally written that Powell was really trying to develop the various motifs. And I'd love for him to get the chance to do that for real this time.

Another thing to me is, the music he wrote for this series is a vital part of its DNA. Even among non-score-enthusiasts, most Bourne fans I know have all agreed that the music plays a huge whole in making these movies what they are. Whether Powell wants to continue with these types of movies or not, he certainly did help define some of their appeal. If Howard *does* return (or whoever the composer ends up being), I hope he can be convinced to utilize more of Powell's signature themes beyond the oboe (or is it a bassoon?) theme that defines Bourne's uncertainty (which appeared twice in Legacy).


Anonymous2015-08-11 21:38:17
well he hasn't been active in recent years i don't think but i wonder if they could get james mckee smith to do bourne 5...he worked on the first and third ones and has experience with the series....


Hybrid Soldier2015-09-09 19:58:35
For those still hoping, Powell confirmed again he's not gonna score a sequel...


McKee Smith would be a great idea, but he got some serious injury a few years back which forced him to "retire" from film scoring... Too bad, great writer !!


Scorefan2015-09-09 20:58:44
@ Hybrid, what happened with James Mckee Smith?


Hybrid Soldier2015-09-09 21:08:59
Oh he's fine now, but he doesn't want to come back to film scoring... lol


Bioscope2015-09-10 05:54:32
Do you think they could mend relations with Henry Jackman? His distortes sequencer sounds could be a replacement to Powell's styles...


Brent2015-09-10 09:02:29
I think Jackman or Balfe could make the most sense in terms of musical style. Though, I'm sure neither of them wants to do this, especially Jackman.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2014-05-17 00:33:40
if only powell had come back for the unnecessary 4th bourne movie. JNH is usually a strong composer but his score there didn't do much for me and felt like a weak powell imitation.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2013-02-19 20:45:34
Seeing as this is expanded, does anyone know which tracks are missing? I can think of the scene where he's looking up information on Hotel Brecker, but what else?

sean reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-21 00:00:00
how do we get the expanded tracks

Andrew reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-22 00:00:00
Not surprising. There are always several tracks missing from bootlegs.

versatyl reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-21 00:00:00
Nowhere to buy it ?

TPM reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-19 00:00:00
Where on earth can I get this???

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-19 00:00:00
@ TPM

It is a bootleg, you won't be able to get it through retail. We are not authorized to share any link's, sites, or anything of that matter on here. Your all on your own.

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2010-01-29 00:00:00
@ Alex

Nope, but it is a true expanded score. Music that was in the film are here except for "Road Rage", a cover artist placed in 'Film Version' but its not. Everything else that is not on the retail is new music.

Alex reply Replies: 0 || 2010-01-25 00:00:00
Is this a promotional release ?

Bou reply Replies: 0 || 2010-01-16 00:00:00
wow!

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