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@Bob<br><br>Thank you for the enlightment, I will consider opening my wrists for misconduct in the next few days, thank you very much... :o<br><br><br><br>Ok seriously though, you guys should know that if there's one guy that could not care less about awards... it's Hans... :)I am really enjoying his season of the Crown.a big balfe influence in this season with hints of Churchil and Genius I think. Really excellent music/ it's me@ds "Ramin is also doing a lot of projects but is far, far behind in terms of styles and creativity."<br> <br>I think the same for Jablonsky, Zanelli, XL, Jackman and Mancina.@macejko<br><br>"All the time he acts like the hottest shit in town, refusing to score basically everything they offer him"<br><br>You said in another comment that you never read an interview with Powell, so not reason you take that kind of conclusion of your character.<br><br>"The man hides in a cave, doesn't evolve at all and for some mysterious reason he is still revered like a second coming of Jesus Christ."<br>Powell is a clearly talented composer. He suffered criticism at the beginning of his career by sounding like Zimmer, but soon showed substance. And much more than that created an identifiable style, which today is reference to other scores of modern animations (which may be good or bad to depend on of the point of view).<br>Today he is an established composer and it is common for these composers to move away for a few years or even close their careers without many explanations for the public. In recent years we watched the estrangement of Silvestri, Horner, Williams and in the past we saw Faltemeyer, Bill Conti and Brad Fiedel drop their careers when they were at the top of the game.<br><br>" Say anything you will about Lorne Balfe, but at least he is working his ass off and slowly getting better and better"<br><br>As they said in another comment, you're compared to newbies and veterans. Balfe's having the opportunity of his life now. Take it or leave it. There's no choice. Powell, as well as Zimmer others, on the other hand, is a "senior member" of the club. He can afford to go away for a few years to resolve comprehensible personal problems without affecting the hard work he has developed in the last 20 years. Will Balfe continue to be so creative in 10 or 15 years?<br><br>@ds<br><br>"<br>Powell has nothing to prove, he has already mastered all genres"<br><br>That's funny, but it's fair. Powell Is a good composer. Not the best, far from it. Your style really narrows your work down, but we can say that from all the composers out there. So it's not a problem.The problem is he wants to limit his work to animations and fantasy.because he abhors gratuitous violence.<br><br>@george<br><br>". Although, I hate to say it, we could say the same for Zimmer in my opinion"<br><br>Zimmer's at the end of his career. All the other composers when they arrived at 60 years (with the exception of JNH, Goldsmith and Morricone) reduced the amount of projects per year and went on to choose their work best. It's a natural way.Over the years, it tends to get worse with one exception here and there. Don't keep expectations like he's in his prime<br><br>"he has "nothing more to prove", he is creatively dead."<br><br><br>Powell will work with a little more frequently in the coming years (or not) that only depends on his ambitions. However, frankly, he's never going to do three again. 4.5. 6 projects in a year. It takes a lot of motivation for that.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
Just listened to the whole thing, kind of a let down. Nothing interessting except for some action moments. Donít even recall hearing some sort of theme. Overall it was like listening to Cars 4: Spanish World Cup.I have already listened to The Jumanji Overture and I must say it sounds really great. Let's see how the rest of the score sounds.Tracklist with track duration:<br>01. The Jumanji Overture (03:20)<br>02. Digging Up The Past (01:43)<br>03. Brantfort High (01:09)<br>04. Into The Jungle (01:23)<br>05. Out of Character (02:31)<br>06. The Legend of the Jewel (02:23)<br>07. The Adventure Begins (01:40)<br>08. Special Abilities (01:16)<br>09. The Bikers (03:44)<br>10. Van Pelt (01:00)<br>11. A Test Of Friendship (01:22)<br>12. The Bazaar (01:16)<br>13. Snake Charmer (03:41)<br>14. The Power of Bravestone (01:04)<br>15. Seaplane McDonough (02:17)<br>16. The Missing Piece (01:46)<br>17. Lost In Time (01:18)<br>18. Flirting With Danger (01:36)<br>19. Albino Rhinos (03:44)<br>20. Retrieving the Emerald (01:54)<br>21. Out of Lives (01:49)<br>22. First Kiss (01:22)<br>23. The Jaguars (03:03)<br>24. Ring of Fire (02:07)<br>25. Begin The Climb (01:56)<br>26. Call Out Its Name (02:23)<br>27. leaving Jumanji (03:03)<br>28. An Older Friend (02:40)<br>29. Back To School (01:53)@ds the same for desplat's victory with Budapest Hotel.Maybe. I'd sure be happy for you lot ;) And I'd definitely rather see Powell attached to a project than, say, RGW, Junkie or Desplat. <br><br>That Solo movie is going to be a disaster, though.
One more thing: if indeed the reason for Powell's semi-hiatus was to be with his family as much as possible, we may well see his activity increase again in coming years now that his wife has passed away and his son is close to graduating high school (I couldn't find an exact date of birth for him but I think he's 16 or 17). Him taking on a project as big and ambitious as Star Wars isn't exactly the sign of someone who wants to take it easy. It's too early to say yet though.hans should win the oscar for best sound effects and not for the best music/score. just as a statement.And it's also unfair to use Balfe to criticize Powell. He started working on American projects in 2005 with Batman Begins, and only after 2010 did he receive individual projects. Is it accurate to compare someone who entered the party at the last minute with two others who are in it for 20 (Powell) and 30 (Zimmer)?<br><br>I'm in a hurry and I put everything into a translator. Forgive the many mistakes.<br> <br><br><br>Composers do not need to worry about the attention, acceptance of the public of the same or the same intensity as pop music artists do. There's no need to do that. Occasionally some name draws attention to the public and causes many people to be in the genre, Williams and Zimmer are the main examples that I can bring the table. However it is not because Williams or Zimmer are extremely popular and perhaps worry about the material they are offering to the public who adores them that all the composers of the world need to do equal. Most of these men and women even enxeega as "celebrity". They are more like artisans or the rest of the crew of a film that occupies with the lights, effects and costumes and that will never have the same response from the public as the main actor. And they don't even expect it. So I think it's foolish to wait for Powell to occupy himself in 2,3 movies a year to please a fanbase.<br><br>I'll agree with you when it says it's deplorable to see CPR composers who talk so much about building a single voice and giving emerging talent the opportunity to use so many additional composers (many of them with a possible promise that in the future they will work with Zimmer and thus have the opportunity to show his face in Hollywood.The sense is almost always these.You start with a secondary composer, he arrives at Zimmer and gains some kind of notoriety). But Powell is not the only one who does this. So he should not be the only one criticized.Well...it's a film score. It has no obligation to provide a pleasant or enjoyable listening experience, and for an award like this that doesn't really come into consideration. So if it works in the film, it did its job and that's all that matters.<br><br>For me personally, as someone who cares about music first and films second, a score like Dunkirk has little value. A few years ago I probably would have been pretty mad about this score winning awards and acclaim (you should have seen how salty I got when The Social Network beat out HTTYD), but these days... *shrug*. I know what I like, Dunkirk isn't it, and that's fine. It wasn't written for me. Do I wish Hans still wrote the kind of music I like? Of course. But he gets to make his own choices as an artist, just as I get to choose what to listen to as a fan.
The score is already on itunes.This score... so many mixed emotions. Does it work for the film? Heck yeah. Does it improve the film? So much so. Did Hans do what he set out to do? Totally. Is it an award winning masterpiece? Um, not so fast.<br><br>Dunkirk, while super effective within the context of the film (I wouldnít change a thing about it), I must admit, it doesnít have nearly the same effect as a stand-alone listen. Itís literally the same textures and notes over and over again, just slightly rising and falling in pitch and tempo. Does that make it ďawardĒ worthy? Iím not sure. If based solely on the film, you betcha. If based purely on the music itself, I donít think so. Thatís where Interstellar succeeds so far and away over Dunkirk. As a pure listening experience, Interstellar is interesting, multi-layered and emotional. Whereas Dunkirk is just flat, void of any sort of feeling or ďactualĒ music (again, works IN the film). Itís glorified sound FX (save for the end, which, no doubt, is in large part to Ben).<br><br>Hmm... Iíve never had a score tear me apart more than this one. I both love it and hate it. Maybe it did itís job... lol.<br><br>Excuse me while I go listen to No Time for Caution yet again.I think most of us agree that he should've won for Interstellar but I think Dunkirk deserves it too. The work Hans and the music department did on this movie is just incredible. Must've been a lot of hard work. <br>An award is an award, Hans' 2nd Oscar is long overdue so I'd be glad to see him win. But it would be weird to see him win for THAT score, after all the greatnesses of the past 20 years. Same thing with Morricone who won his only Oscar for his very light and insignificant work on Hateful Eight. Good for the man, good for the fans, but doesn't really make sense. But have Oscars ever made sense? :-phaha hybrid :D made my day
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The Bourne Supremacy (Expanded Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 107'43
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CD1
  1. Goa Flashback (1:18)
  2. Goa Flashback (Demo) (1:02)
  3. New Memories (2:16)
  4. New Memories (Alternate) (2:48)
  5. New Memories (Alternate II) (1:36)
  6. New Memories (Alternate III) (2:15)
  7. New Memories (Demo) (1:59)
  8. Morning Run (1:45)
  9. Morning Run (Demo) (1:50)
  10. Goa Chase (4:55)
  11. Underwater (2:18)
  12. The Drop (3:51)
  13. Exposition (1:43)
  14. Funeral Pyre (2:19)
  15. Gathering Data (1:51)
  16. Customs (1:44)
  17. Bourne Again (5:30)
  18. Nach Deutschland (2:39)
  19. Nach Deutschland (Demo) (2:37)
  20. Toaster Bomb-Diner (2:26)
  21. To The Roof (6:34)
  22. To The Roof (Demo) (4:59)
CD2
  1. Alexanderplatz (3:10)
  2. Tube Flashback (1:18)
  3. Room 645 (4:47)
  4. Berlin Foot Chase (5:17)
  5. Abbott Spews (Part 1) (2:32)
  6. Abbott Spews (Part 2) (1:32)
  7. Death Of Abbott (1:31)
  8. To Moscow (2:15)
  9. Moscow Wind Up (7:54)
  10. Moscow Wind Up (Demo) (7:09)
  11. Road Rage (5:09)
  12. Irena (3:05)
  13. Atonement (1:33)
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TPM reply Replies: 2 || 2010-03-22 00:00:00
There's actually a track missing on here - the scene where Bourne looks for Neski's hotel on the computer, it was used in Ultimatum too in a similar scene


Mike2012-12-29 09:38:19
Later reply, I know, but notice, this is only listed as an "expanded" score. Therefore, some cues would definitely be missing. Heck, even if it were considered complete, it's still possible that some cues wouldn't be listed--say, for example, if they were added later on. The Dark Knight Rises comes to mind. This site has a page for TDKR's complete score, but I can think, off the top of my head, of some cues that are missing from the list.


VJD2016-04-13 21:53:38
The track I believe you are looking for is Hotel Brecker above...

Mike reply Replies: 8 || 2015-08-11 19:18:33
So I was having a Bourne marathon this week, and I know this isn't gonna happen, if Greengrass' and Powell's relationship is as bad as it sounds, but I *really* wish Powell could be convinced to come back and score the fifth movie. On Supremacy and Ultimatum especially, his music really drives the film and ramps up the intensity and suspense. His absence was sorely felt in Legacy, IMO, and if the studio wants to reignite Bourne franchise fervor, they'll need to do all they can to get Powell, and Bourne's signature sound, back.


Edmund Meinerts2015-08-11 19:59:30
It would certainly be nice, although probably in violation of Powell's current work ethic (he's said a lot about staying away from violent films, only scoring things his son can watch etc). To be honest, you can see the cracks showing in the Greengrass/Powell relationship in Ultimatum...so many cues from Identity and Supremacy temped in to replace Powell's far superior original cues that you can hear on the complete score. But I think that Powell still would have had the capability to further develop the franchise sound - he wasn't out of things to say.

If not Powell, I certainly hope the franchise can find a worthier replacement than James Newton Howard's bore-fest that was Legacy. Hell, his own Salt is a far better Bourne score than Legacy.


Mike2015-08-11 21:33:35
"...he wasn't out of things to say."

My thoughts exactly. Like you said, a lot of the new material in Ultimatum ended up replaced with temp tracks from Supremacy, but you could tell listening to Ultimatum as originally written that Powell was really trying to develop the various motifs. And I'd love for him to get the chance to do that for real this time.

Another thing to me is, the music he wrote for this series is a vital part of its DNA. Even among non-score-enthusiasts, most Bourne fans I know have all agreed that the music plays a huge whole in making these movies what they are. Whether Powell wants to continue with these types of movies or not, he certainly did help define some of their appeal. If Howard *does* return (or whoever the composer ends up being), I hope he can be convinced to utilize more of Powell's signature themes beyond the oboe (or is it a bassoon?) theme that defines Bourne's uncertainty (which appeared twice in Legacy).


Anonymous2015-08-11 21:38:17
well he hasn't been active in recent years i don't think but i wonder if they could get james mckee smith to do bourne 5...he worked on the first and third ones and has experience with the series....


Hybrid Soldier2015-09-09 19:58:35
For those still hoping, Powell confirmed again he's not gonna score a sequel...


McKee Smith would be a great idea, but he got some serious injury a few years back which forced him to "retire" from film scoring... Too bad, great writer !!


Scorefan2015-09-09 20:58:44
@ Hybrid, what happened with James Mckee Smith?


Hybrid Soldier2015-09-09 21:08:59
Oh he's fine now, but he doesn't want to come back to film scoring... lol


Bioscope2015-09-10 05:54:32
Do you think they could mend relations with Henry Jackman? His distortes sequencer sounds could be a replacement to Powell's styles...


Brent2015-09-10 09:02:29
I think Jackman or Balfe could make the most sense in terms of musical style. Though, I'm sure neither of them wants to do this, especially Jackman.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2014-05-17 00:33:40
if only powell had come back for the unnecessary 4th bourne movie. JNH is usually a strong composer but his score there didn't do much for me and felt like a weak powell imitation.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2013-02-19 20:45:34
Seeing as this is expanded, does anyone know which tracks are missing? I can think of the scene where he's looking up information on Hotel Brecker, but what else?

sean reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-21 00:00:00
how do we get the expanded tracks

Andrew reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-22 00:00:00
Not surprising. There are always several tracks missing from bootlegs.

versatyl reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-21 00:00:00
Nowhere to buy it ?

TPM reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-19 00:00:00
Where on earth can I get this???

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2010-03-19 00:00:00
@ TPM

It is a bootleg, you won't be able to get it through retail. We are not authorized to share any link's, sites, or anything of that matter on here. Your all on your own.

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2010-01-29 00:00:00
@ Alex

Nope, but it is a true expanded score. Music that was in the film are here except for "Road Rage", a cover artist placed in 'Film Version' but its not. Everything else that is not on the retail is new music.

Alex reply Replies: 0 || 2010-01-25 00:00:00
Is this a promotional release ?

Bou reply Replies: 0 || 2010-01-16 00:00:00
wow!

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