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So what do you think about the westworld competition and what is your most favorite entry?In sound quality (regardless of what certain peope might say about how great LPs sound; it's an analog format) the bootleg already trumps it I guess...I have the same question as wellIt could be possible, but there would be too many seconds of overlap between some of these tracks for that to be a possibility in this specific case. I really hope they haven't cut down the tracks to fit on vinyl, otherwise the bootleg will trump it in terms of content.Maybe the different time lengths is due to tracks slightly overlapping each other (as in many HZ soundtrack releases)?
Comparing the track times listed here, it seems (at first glance) that many of the tracks are edited down from the complete cues as heard on the bootleg. Could the listed track times be simply incorrect, or have edits been made to make the score fit onto four sides? I guess we can find out when the record ships in July.<br><br>Additionally, for those without a record player it sucks that a CD release was not possible for La-La Land. Whatever the reasons are for that, it's a bizarre situation that one independent label can release the same material on vinyl but another cannot on CD. Quite perplexing...@Hybrid, will you make the Scoob Page?Perhaps "The Cistern (Alternate)" is the album version. The music I heard in the film is not 100% the same with the track I heard in the OST.Dang I cant wait to hear the Alternate 'Cistern' cueVinyl only...How dumb can you get
Lol, you’re right! I though that was Rambo III climbing the cliffs for a moment.LLL made MI 1 Complete. So they are trying to make MI 2 Complete. That could move Varese to make MI 3 Complete. But studio (Disney) don't want it.Use the Wayback Machine on - it's all there! :)@Zimson<br>404 not found dudeWhy would a studio allow a vinyl release but no CD or digital release? That's utter nonsense. Almost like they're refusing to make money.
Any clue on where to find this Complete Score?.. and people wonder why there's "bootlegs" out there...Next time, we can expect a wax cylinder release... :(@Jerry<br><br>At the Film Score Monthly message board, MV said that La La Land has been trying to release this one for years but got shot down by the studio. So sadly, a CD release won't happen for nowNo.

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Robin Hood
Label: Varese Sarabande
Length: 51'12 rating:        5/5
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  1. Destiny (3:35)
  2. Creatures (2:09)
  3. Fate Has Smiled Upon Us (2:01)
  4. Godfrey (3:32)
  5. Ambush (1:14)
  6. Pact Sworn In Blood (2:52)
  7. Returning The Crown (1:13)
  8. Planting The Fields (1:17)
  9. Sherwood Forest (2:19)
  10. John Is King (4:01)
  11. Robin Speaks (2:31)
  12. Killing Walter (1:58)
  13. Nottingham Burns (2:11)
  14. Siege (2:09)
  15. Landing Of The French (2:46)
  16. Walter’s Burial (3:04)
  17. Preparing For Battle (2:38)
  18. Charge (1:18)
  19. Clash (2:41)
  20. The Final Arrow (2:29)
  21. The Legend Begins (1:27)
  22. Merry Men (1:48)
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Robin Hood reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-28 00:00:00

Thanks buddy. I do know quite a bit about the business but on the composing side of things? I think I'd prefer to stick to my admiration of it. I'm very interested by film music a great deal but I'm not really in the position where I would want to become a composer myself. Anyhow, Just look at all the great composers you have out there already. We're spoiled. :D

Enrico reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-27 00:00:00
Good clips from this score...I hope that isn't a score like the last one... Bleee
I hope that Marc has used good orchestral sound (and not synth sound)...

Miles reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-27 00:00:00
It seems pretty promising! "Fate Has Smiled Upon Us" sounds similar to "Arrival To Earth" from Transformers (which is a plus), and "Nottingham Burns" has a truly distinctive Celtic sound to it. Looking forward to both the music and the movie!

Robin Hood reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-27 00:00:00

I wasn't a huge fan of the Transformers score Miles. Outside of theme, there was nothing really about it that I hadn't heard before and done better.

That being said, I can understand you liking the similarity between "Fate Has Smiled Upon Us" and "Arrival To Earth" But that could also be a bad thing. You have to remember this is a Robin Hood film, and one that claims to be historically accurate.

Robin Hood isn't Robin Hood if the music doesn't hold any relation to the character, period etc.

That's one of the reasons Clash Of The Titans got such a poor response from the large majority of film score listeners. In all that rush to the finish, Djawadi forgot what he was scoring. If the music doesn't say Ancient Greece? Then why put it in a film that wants you to believe it is?

It's not about old-fashioned vs. modern. It's about pure common sense. If Djawadi isn't to blame, then the producers most certainly are.

Even when Zimmer scored Gladiator which was a considerable U-turn from the established sound, he still used a collection of instruments and Lisa Gerrard's vocals to say to the listening, you are in Rome. This is what I believe and hope Robin Hood will achieve also.

Lasse reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-27 00:00:00
@ Robin Hood

thats true, the score really have to fit the time periode of the movie

Robin Hood reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-27 00:00:00

Yes that's right Lasse.

This "McDonalds" approach to film scoring has to stop. I have no problem with Remote Control being part of the business and the talent that come from Zimmer's company, but they cannot just be putting the same score into one film, they would another. This approach will in the long run do nothing but backfire badly.

Even Revenge Of The Fallen, whilst Modern and set in the present day, Jablonsky/Bay didn't even attempt to reflect the fact that the action for the last half of the film was taking place in Egypt. They could have had the entire cast in New York and the music would have been just as suitable. Not to mention the ruining of the score by having Linkin Park involved. Bay needs to be keeping these kinds of popular artists completely away from the scoring duties.

I thought both Transformers scores had their moments, the original was enjoyable, nothing special, the sequel was worse, I don't recall a standout track like "Arrival To Earth" from the original in Fallen and I doubt a complete release would change that.

Maybe Jablonsky will pull a Zimmer and his third score will be a vast improvement on the previous two.

If Robin Hood does appear to be the sort of score a film of this kind should absolutely have? I hope it's a huge success. As everybody knows, these Hollywood producers only know money, and if they see this film with that sort of score? They will only want the same. Now nobody wants the "same" but we all know what that means, it means scores that reflect their setting, reflect their characters, reflect their time period and bring well written, memorable music to the table in the process.

This is the turnaround that needs to happen in film music. Hopefully Hans and the folks at Remote Control will realise this, and bring good work to the table, before it's too late.

The way things are going now? Scores like Clash Of The Titans are already going out of fashion. People grow, people change. Eventually this sort of Remote Control scoring is going to become so oversaturated that it will lead to the general public complaining about it like they would anything else. We all know producers take the general public very seriously who attend their test screenings. Therefore all that will happen is you will start seeing your first batch of RC scores being rejected, thus starting the downfall of manufactured film music.

I don't want to see this happen.

Remote Control have talent to offer and I really do hope they will get their act together.

We shall have to wait and see.

Robert James reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-27 00:00:00
@ Robin Hood

Amen to that! ;)

Lasse reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-27 00:00:00
@ Robin Hood

whit your knowledge of score you should have been a composer :) im sure you would done a really great job :D

Lasse reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00
thank you Ravi Krishna , the soundtrack sounds amazing :D
i love Fate has smiled upon us and landing of the french sounds interesting along whit Nottingham burns :D

this soundtrack is really gonna be great ;D

Robert James reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00
John Williams
James Horner
Alan Silvestri
Danny Elfman

---> John Powell <---

How To Train Your Dragon. HOLY CRAP!!! AWESOME.

These guys are the MASTERS of ORCHESTRATION right now! ;)

craig reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00
@Ravi Krishna

wow thanks! i missed your post before, just heard the samples. :)

i think i was right! this music is making my blood boil!!! something none of zimmer's latest works have done for me.

i love love love clash!!!!!! the orchestration is awesome, im really pumped for this score now!!!!!!!!!!

Miles reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00
What does "orchestration" mean? Is it how the music is arranged or something like that? I'd like to know.

Michael reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00
Hahaha and people said Streitenfeld was going to SUCK.

Who's laughing now? :P

Robin Hood reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00

Yes you are on the right wavelength buddy. It's what part of the orchestra performs which instrument at any given point in the music, the overall sound of the performance and how the performance of the players come across.

Also here is the website :)

You just need to search for Robin Hood.

Robin Hood reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00
I agree craig.

Zimmer has such great ideas, yet to this day continues to ruin them all with his really bad approach to the orchestration. :(

craig reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00
i think i will enjoy robin hood much more than any of zimmer's last scores, like sherlock holmes, angels & demons, the dark knight and even pirates 3.

why? because whilst zimmer can come up with a catchy melody and potential for a great sounding score, the orchestration on his big scores always blows, it sounds completely banal.

look at when horner ripped off part of gladiator in avatar, he actually improved upon it and made it sound far better simply because horner is a master at orchestration.

thats why i wouldnt ever put zimmer in the same league as powell.

powell knows how to orchestrate well, he may not be quite as big of a name as of yet, but he's getting there and hope he does.

just like the samples of this score i have heard so far have a good classically orchestrated sound to them, marc's score doesn't sound like a bunch of musicians playing the same note, along with an in your face mix reminiscent more of rock music than classical in structure.

it may sound like im ripping on zimmer, im not, im just stating the facts. i do like zimmer alot, but none of his scores sound as good as they could because of the completely amateurish approach to the orchestration.

remember all those re-recordings you have heard of zimmer that sound crap? it's not down to a bad performance 9 times out of 10, it's down to the orchestration. zimmer covers up bad orchestration by making everything sound loud and banal. if he would just know how to orchestrate the right way he wouldn't even need to do what he does. maybe one day he will.

composers like powell and gregson-williams etc have clearly figured it out already, so what's the problem with zimmer? i say it's either carelessness to his approach or a pure ego-driven mindset, one of the two.

food for thought.

Ravi Krishna reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00
You can now hear sound clips at the Colosseum page. Sounds pretty good IMO. "Nottingham Burns" is... interesting. Is it actual 'real' Celtic material?

Christopher reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00

Lasse reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00
Enrico: I think its wrong to say that Marc Streitenfeld isnt good to make score for great films.

he made a awsome job whit the score for american gangster, and from what i have heard the robin hood score will be awsome :)
i like Marc Streitenfelds score and i hope he will make score for more then just ridley scotts movies.

Sorry for my bad englis :S Im from norway so that explains it :P

Enrico reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00
Lately is coming up very bad music from MV (except Zimmer)... :(
It's noise, not music...I mean Ramin, Steve and others...very bad scores

Enrico reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00
I agree with Craig: I think that Robin Hood should have the elements that he wrote...however I thought and think that Robin Hood should be done by Zimmer...This composer (M.S.) isn't so good to do these great films...

craig reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00
"The musical score is good as well, but not very memorable"

thats what i read on one review.

to me? thats good enough. believe it or not? alot of people dont remember the score to gladiator either.

now a lot here will say "i remember it!!" as do i, i think it was very memorable, then again i know the score extremely well. i think alot of people out side of the closing music wouldnt remember a note, especially with the oversaturation of the zimmer sound in hollywood now and the crappy knockoffs like clash of the titans.

i for one am still very much looking forward to it, i think that also do to it appearing to have 3 things i really wanted it too:

1) a celtic feel reflective of the period and character
2) a symphonic sound that sounds old-fashioned yet modern too
3) a good main theme, which this film has.

Robert James reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00
OMG How could I forget?!

Michael Giacchino goes on that list also. Whoops! :D

Michael reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00
Yep, Giacchino is AWESOME. Very good with handling his orchestration, absolutely. ;-)

Miles reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00
Thanks :)

Lasse reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00
@Robin Hood

Thats good to hear :) i like the people on this site very much and i think its fun to know others thoughts on film score :)

craig reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00
i can see that happening too. :(

oh well at least i have robin hood to look forward too!!!! :D

Paul reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00
@ Robin Hood

I agree about "I Don't Think Now Is The Best Time". That cue probably has the best orchestration of Zimmer's entire career so far. Even then it could still be improved considerably.

I wish he would have scored Pirates 4 maybe he could have continued with that sort of approach. I have a real worry though that the franchise is only going to go backwards, musically especially. Oh well. :/

Robin Hood reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-26 00:00:00

That's true and I have the same feelings towards continuing the Pirates films.

I really cannot see Bruckheimer wanting to progress with the music in the direction it started to go with At World's End, more so digress.

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