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what the hell is Quaker steak and lube????I disagree on Catwoman. I love Zimmer's theme and I thought it is one of his most underrated themes.Loved the new tracks!<br><br>Hans & Chris really did something special.<br><br>I enjoyed the Tenet score, but honestly Ludwig's work doesn't compare to Zimmer's. I just hope they work together again instead of Chris choosing Ludwig as his main collaborator from now on.Agreed.<br><br>I don’t know, TDKR feels a little oppressive to me in comparison with BB and TDK , probably as a result of Nolan’s musical tastes veering away from symphonic to more abstract. Reading the new book on Nolan gives me the impression that he has a very similar approach to his music as he does his filmmaking. With that said though, TDKR is still a solid conclusion to the franchise. Bane’s theme is excellent and the culmination of the various “Bat-Themes” do feel well earned. Catwoman’s theme is solid, but for some reason is dropped from most of the movie in favor of the repeating two-note phrase.<br><br>@Moggyman<br>Honestly I feel as if JNH’s work on the first two Hunger Games sequels showed a strong improvement in writing and theme building. The last score was a bit too much of a pastiche, but orchestrally a stronger fit than the first one. And “Crimes of Grindelwald” is easily one of the best sequel scores in the past few years (alongside Star Wars and HTTYD). Unfortunately we still don’t have a good album situation for that though. -_-Counterpoint: I liked Crimes of Grindelwald more than the first Fantastic Beasts. And forget Hanging Tree - "Air Raid Drill" from the first and "Sewer Attack" from the second Mockingjay are the best cues from that series. Plus, JNH honestly hasn't worked on that many sequels so we don't really have enough to go on here. <br><br>I think having JNH on board for Catwoman would have done wonders for this score. Hans' theme is okay, but feels like a bit of an afterthought compared to Bane.
TDK & TDKR have amazing theme suites.<br><br>But as for the scores in film, they don't even get close to Batman Begins !I like Tom but idk he's gone downhill in my book. Alita was boring, i was over the moon excited for Terminator cause that was a perfect mix and it was disappointed big time. I'd love to hear Steve Jablonsky tackle that and get back to being as great as he used to, he has been phoning it in big time latelyOk, before I eat my words, JNH did create the Hanging Tree in Mockingjay p1 which was good, but nothing else other than that in the sequels.For being the so called "weakest", it's very good. And if you think that Bane's theme is repetitive, I would say the same about the Joker's theme in TDK (to me they are both good though). <br><br>Now in all fairness, JNH could have probably added good material to the score since he's a genius, but I personally think he doesn't do well on sequels. Sure, in TDK he gave harvey dent a theme that resonated with his character (but was similar to material already used in BB). Yet, if you look at his work in the hunger games, its seems to me that he couldn't bring something both new and compelling to the sequels as he did in the first movie. I will agree with you that Batman Begins has the best music of the series though.After re-listening to this one, it's clearly the weakest of the trilogy. Of course it's not bad, the new themes are pretty good (though I think Bane's theme is a bit too repetitive and dry at times), there's still emotional moments, but JNH's absence really left a hole in this score.<br><br>I get to an extent that's the point, that all of Bruce's potential for a happy life is gone, but even the emotional tracks to me have nowhere near the emotional resonance that JNH's themes brought to the films. <br><br>"Come With Me" is the best example, where the slow emotional Selina Kyle chords just don't leave much of an impact. Definitely could have used JNH's "Courthouse Pt. 1" or the main theme from "Bruce Left For Dead" to emphasize Bruce's giving up of a quiet life. <br><br>Of course I still appreciate the way the 2 note motif is developed into a theme of its own, as well as the score as a whole, but then you get tracks like "Many Forms of Immortality" which just emphasize how much more effective the thematic work in Batman Begins was.
It could also be Tom, who worked on Run All Night, and is already an established DC composer<br>Either way I'll be happyI lowkey think James is gonna score the Black Adam movie. it's the same director from Jungle Cruise so I'm sure he'll be brought along for itsameNo no, it's just a fake rumor. I was just responding to that MusoPT guy who made it sound like it's totally inconceivable that Balfe could ever be replaced.Wait!<br>So has Balfe been replaced due to having other projects?<br>I thought it had been completed?
Why was there the change of composers?...wouldn't being really busy be an argument *for* him possibly being replaced? When you're signed on to 10 movies and release schedules are being constantly pushed around because nobody has a clue when theaters are going to open again, you shouldn't be surprised if eventually you might run into some conflicts.Jackman is not replacing Balfe! <br>Balfe is the most busiest composer at the moment so he isn’t going to get replaced last minute!!!!!Thank you for your replies. On IMDB she is listed.Alright, after re-listening to the score, I've made a few educated guesses of what the additional composers did, based on what we know about the score and their previous work. Note that none of this is confirmed by Hybrid, just my opinion.<br><br>Lorne Balfe: Seems to practically be a co-composer here. I hear a lot of him in this score. It seems he did Invasion (as he's known for contributing trailer music to films he works on) seemingly the suites "Brooding", "Deciphering the Signal", "Battle", and the one we know he cowrote, "Journey Suite". Based on this here's my guess as to what he contributed. <br><br>Soccent Attack - Sounds like his style, probably him arranging AllSpark and Decepticon material. <br><br>Keller's Briefing - Arrangement of "Deciphering the Signal"<br><br>Deciphering the Signal - Obviously another arrangement of "Deciphering the Signal" with Batman Begins-like action at the end.<br><br>Sam's Pink Bike Ride (Part 2) - Sounds like an arrangement of "Brooding" material. <br><br>(Possibly?) Are You LadiesMan217? - Some arrangement of "Brooding" and "Journey Suite" material, although hard to say whether the theme at 1:10 is Steve's or Lorne's. Could be Steve arranging Lorne material, as it sounds more Jablonsky-esque to me. <br><br>Autobots to the Rescue - Could be Steve imitating Batman Begins style, but sounds far too Lorne for me to not consider it a co-written track. <br><br>Sector 7 Chase - Part 1 sounds more Jablonsky than Lorne, but there's no question to me that part 2 has a lot of Balfe in there. <br><br>Where Is My Car? - Batman Begins-like again, probably Lorne solo, or Lorne and Steve<br><br>Decepticons Mobilize (Part 2) - Arrangement of "Brooding"<br><br>Freeway Fight - Battle version of Decepticon theme from "Brooding"<br><br>Stumble Bumble (Part 1) & (Part 2 Alternate) - Arrangement of "Journey Suite", second part not used in the film sounds like Steve & Lorne Combo to me. Film version of part 2 sounds pure Steve to me. <br><br>You're A Soldier Now (Parts 1 & 3) - Lorne being heavily involved in the final battle is known, and Parts 1 and 3 have arrangements of Lorne material. I'm also fairly certain that Lorne wrote the Optimus vs Megatron theme from Part 3 and "Optimus vs Megatron".<br><br>Optimus vs Megatron - Finale of theme introduced in "You're A Soldier Now (Part 3)" as well as the "Journey / AllSpark" theme which could be Lorne's or Steve's. <br><br>Trevor Morris: I can infer from his work on Pirates 2, The Island, and the one track we know he worked on. <br><br>Soldiers Arrive - Not sure why, but I've always assumed this military theme was Morris'.<br><br>Arctic 1897 - Dark theme that reminds me a lot of his work from Pirates 2. <br><br>Scorponok - Known fact that he co-wrote this. <br><br>Hoover Dam - Arrangement of military theme<br><br>Transforming -  Same theme from Arctic 1897<br><br>Sam on the Roof (Part 2) - Arrangement of theme from Scorponok, though could be Steve or Lorne arranging it.<br><br>Optimus vs Megatron - A slight hint to the Military theme when they begin attacking Blackout, and Scorponok theme reprisal, once again could be Steve or Lorne arranging these themes. <br><br>Creeper Suite / A Call to Arms (Unused) - Original music for Optimus' Epilogue, contains arrangement of military theme. <br><br>Jay Flood: Can be inferred from his work on Transformers: The Game, his overall more orchestral writing, and his contributions to Nightmare on Elm Street, Sims 3, and Desperate Housewives. <br><br>Camaro on the Run - Definitely has a TF: The Game sound to it overall. As well as a bit of Thomas Newman-esque music. <br><br>Witwicky (Parts 1-3) - Definitely some of his style here along with Steve's overall Desperate Housewives-esque music. <br><br>Decepticons 2 Suite / Frenzy - The suspenseful strings make me think of Flood's Nightmare on Elm Street work, and the brass writing seems more characteristic of him than Jablonsky to me, though it was still probably a co-written suite. <br><br>Tense Action Suite - Once again reminds me of Flood's Nightmare suspenseful string writing, probably at least co-composed with Jablonsky. <br><br>Clay Duncan - I can guess somewhat based on his contributions to "The Island" but otherwise I don't know much about him so I'm not sure about any of the inferences I'm about the make. <br><br>Angry Camaro - This sort of drone music sounds like it could be him as his contributions were very electronic in The Island.<br><br>Bumblebee vs Barricade - Strange electronics and sounds plus more minimalist writing make me think Duncan. <br><br>Tow Truck Charge - Definitely has The Island's sound. Could be Trevor Morris too. <br><br>TJ Lindgreen: I know so little about his style except he works with Elfman and did additional music for TF: The Game so not much I can say for what he did. <br><br>Belly Shot(?) - The ethereal choir style sounds somewhat like TF: The Game's score and Elfman's choir. <br><br>Not to Hear That(?) - Maybe he composed this motif for Mikaela that also appeared in "Belly Shot". <br><br>Surreal Mikaela(?) - Once again I'm hoping the specific choir sound is part of his style. <br><br>Anything I didn't mention is a track I'm assuming is all Jablonsky. Please note that I'm not trying to take away from Steve's work on this score, and that for most of these track I'm assuming Steve had some involvement in as well, I'm just speculating for fun because I've always wanted to know who did what on this score.
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The Peacemaker
Label: Dreamworks Records
Length: 54'43
HZimmer.com rating:        5/5
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  1. Train (13:53)
  2. Devoe's Revenge (5:15)
  3. Sarajevo (8:42)
  4. Chase (17:07)
  5. Peacemaker (9:44)
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UPSer reply Replies: 4 || 2018-04-02 21:45:29
Did Gavin Greenaway wright the melody for Devoe or did he just arrange Hans' theme?


Dawn2018-04-03 00:36:37
That's just my opinion but... If Gavin Greenaway had written the themes for Devoe, shouldn't he be credited for the other cues that contain those themes (Train, Chase, Peacemaker...)?
I think Devoe's Revenge is arranged by Gavin Greenaway, but it's mostly Hans content. Greenaway probably wrote many other tracks for this film (but they're not featured on this release).


Hybrid Soldier2018-04-03 00:51:20
Back in the days crediting worked differently.

If someone arranged a lot of music on a film, he wouldn't necessarly be credited on all those cues, but instead Hans would give them 100% of credit on one of the cues (even if said cue is actually using Hans' music). Like Devoe's Revenge here with Gavin, or Flashback & Fries for NGS on Drop Zone, or I Dreamt I Woke Up for Nick again on Beyond Rangoon.

Nowadays it's a little more realistic, the guy will rather get 25% or 15% or 10% or whatever of all he co-wrote...


Mike (OTM)2018-04-03 17:36:26
Wait, Hybrid, do they actually list those percentages somewhere, or is it a money thing?


Hybrid Soldier2018-04-03 20:22:01
It's rarely listed but on ASCAP or BMI, if let's say you have a Batman V Superman cue listed to Hans (ASCAP) & Andrew K (BMI), you can see that the percentage is 80% for ASCAP, then it's 80% Hans... ;)

If they both are BMI or both are ASCAP, you can't see, cause it'll be 100% for either ASCAP or BMI... lol

And yes, it's mainly a money thing. Percentages kinda depend. Let's just say the "convention" is mostly if an additional did a cue, like almost all of it, it'll be devided 50% / 50% with the main composer, cause the man basically for the additional the job. But sometimes it can be very precise, like 77,5% / 22,5% or whatever. Most of the time Hans will give 1 to 5% to various staff, music editors, a soloist or even a tech guy for he helped design Hans' gear... lol

SPECTER reply Replies: 0 || 2018-02-06 15:58:47
8:30 of track 5 "Peacemaker" is absolutely incredible.
Such Emotion, Such Sadness, Such Passion.

Dimitris Krommidas reply Replies: 0 || 2015-07-15 11:46:25
Another classic from mr.Zimmer!!
I am very glad to own this album too.
Together with Crimson Tide and The Rock, this score complete a favorite trilogy of scores from the 90s".

Adam reply Replies: 3 || 2014-05-03 03:54:37
Expanded release confirmed by LLL! Out on the 20th.


Anonymous2014-05-03 04:31:31
man, i just bought this one recently.... *sigh*


trent easton navarro2014-05-03 14:17:04
Excellent! My fave Zimmer action score. There's so much good stuff missing on the original release. And another bootleg I can toss out


Hispano2014-05-03 14:34:58
I never liked the cover, LLL might have changed this.

badbu reply Replies: 16 || 2013-12-04 11:46:01
never heard :( is it a must have? :)


Ds2013-12-04 12:53:27
I don't think so. If i had discovered it 10 years ago maybe it'd have a special place in my heart. But i discovered it a few months ago and there isn't anything really new in it. It's like a mix of Gladiator, Crimson Tide and a few others, but never as good as they are. Not unpleasing though :-)


Ds2013-12-04 12:54:37
(of course this is just my opinion, judging by the HZimmer.com rating, i guess other people are quite fond of it)


badbu2013-12-04 13:03:27
thanks for the info :)


Mikel Siw (a fan from Spain)2013-12-04 14:28:58
Masterpiece!!!


trent easton navarro2013-12-04 18:17:11
In my opinion one of Zimmer's best action scores. Hope LLL or Intrada will release an expanded version one dat


MacArthur2013-12-04 18:49:18
Love the score myself.


Edmund Meinerts2013-12-04 19:26:18
I think it is. It's a very important transitional score for Zimmer, still written very much in that mid-90s MV style but also pushing a little bit in the direction of the pseudo-Holst/Stravinsky stylings of Gladiator. Has some great Russian flavor to it as well. Very solid score.


MacArthur2013-12-04 19:58:36
I've listened to holst/Stravinsky it's some weird stuff I think Zimmer's stuff makes more sense than the 2 I mentioned.


Edmund Meinerts2013-12-04 20:12:54
Oh MacArthur...you really are a goldmine of unintentional comedy. "Some weird stuff"...priceless :D


MacArthur2013-12-04 20:33:53
Heh it's what i'm known for. lol. :)


MacArthur2013-12-04 20:34:51
I meant Hey* pops :)


Lambegue2013-12-04 20:41:12
I agree with what Edmund said, it's an important transitional score. It is very interesting to listen as a Zimmer fan. But I don't think it is one of his best works overall, and for a lambda listener, it's maybe not really a must have.


Mike2014-01-10 18:07:58
I would say it's a must-have, myself. Sure, certain tracks are slightly obnoxious in their bombast (Devoe's Revenge, for example), but the unadulterated, masculine epicness of the score (particularly in "The Chase") and the interesting extension of the Crimson Tide sound make it worth having, especially for fans of the "90's action" Zimmer. To me, if you like Crimson Tide and The Rock, you'll like this one.


Edmund Meinerts2014-01-10 23:30:25
Devoe's Revenge is my favorite track!


Mike2014-01-11 00:12:26
lol....I'm sorry. It's definitely not bad at all, but it gets a little grating at points, imo.


Mortifer V.2014-01-24 21:37:36
definitely a must have.

MacArthur reply Replies: 2 || 2013-09-01 19:26:17
It's funny Greenway uses parts of Zimmer's stuff in Devoe's Revenge


trent easton navarro2013-12-04 09:26:37
Why is that funny? That part i basically one of the themes of the score, so seems logical Greenaway used it


Edmund Meinerts2013-12-04 19:23:10
Yeah, and it's funny how Balfe uses Zimmer's stuff in Inception, and how Zanelli/Jackman/Orvarsson/Balfe/Gire/Sponsler/Glennie-Smith/ Badelt/Jablonsky/Djawadi/Neely/Morris/Hendrickson use Zimmer's stuff in the Pirates scores.

No, wait, actually, it's perfectly normal. What was the point of this again?

Ds reply Replies: 2 || 2013-10-30 22:56:06
Re-discovering this score right now, it's amazing how it sounds like Gladiator! I had never noticed that before.


MacArthur2013-10-31 02:46:58
Agreed!


Mike2013-12-03 19:35:39
There's also a lot of The Rock and Crimson Tide... ;)

trent easton navarro reply Replies: 0 || 2013-11-16 22:34:10
Decided to give this one a spin today. Still a wonderful score, truly one of Zimmer's best action scores.

I remember when I bought this one, I was still in high school. The day after I got it, the day at school seemed to last forever. I just wanted to go home and play it again and again. Here's hoping La La Land or Intrada will release an expanded version soon

MacArthur reply Replies: 0 || 2013-09-01 19:25:02
My favorite part is the last 2 minutes of Chase epic music one of Zimmer's best love it.

inspector mittens reply Replies: 0 || 2012-08-29 21:07:04
Gavin Greenaway wrote track #2, other tracks are written by Hans Zimmer.

Sanyey reply Replies: 0 || 2008-09-30 00:00:00
Hi all! Anyone knows who wrote the chore song (Russian kind) in the beginning of the train seen.. when they took a camera shot on the steamer from a helcopter or somekind... I would really love to have that song. but I cant find a site even mentioning this song.. #### . anyone has ideas? ##### thx to all! :)

me reply Replies: 0 || 2008-07-23 00:00:00
This is a great soundtrack. This is Zimmer's greatest action score to date! And the choir pieces rival those in Crimson Tide. Great score for any Zimmer collector.

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2008-06-03 00:00:00
I really want to get my hands on the 2 CD set of The Peacemaker: Soundtrack. I know it is very hard to find but if anyone knows how i can get my hands in one oleas let me know

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-18 00:00:00
We have 2 Anthonys here how?!

Anthony reply Replies: 0 || 2008-05-18 00:00:00
Why is this Cd So hard to find? Does any one know?
And why is it for sale @ $45.00 and up?

If only iTunes would get it, i would be sooooo happy.

John Doe reply Replies: 0 || 2008-01-16 00:00:00
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Lesleylionel reply Replies: 0 || 2007-08-10 00:00:00
Just amazing!!! The best!!!

gjsdhivncv reply Replies: 0 || 2007-06-14 00:00:00
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Angel reply Replies: 0 || 2007-02-04 00:00:00
We said that the piano composition that the little girl performs is Frederic Chopin's Nocturne (=Nocturnal) Opus 55 No. 1 In F Minor.
Also the other piano composition that the guy performs (because he has lost his spouse and daughter) is again Chopin's Nocturne No.20 In C Sharp Minor. These compositions ain't Hans Zimmer. Frederic Chopin is the composer. AND THEY AIN'T SONGS EITHER. THEY ARE NOCTURNES!!!!!! DO YOU COPY THAT?


Go here for music sheets
http://www.sheetmusicarchive.net/index.cfm

http://vkgfx.com/scores/

Or purchase an album with Chopin's Nocturnes at www.amazon.com

Bjorn reply Replies: 0 || 2007-02-02 00:00:00
I would like to inquire what the classic song is in the movie The Peacemaker. It is the classic piano song I am referring to and I was wondering if this is a Hans Zimmer track as well?

Regards,

bjorn

Suicune reply Replies: 0 || 2007-01-16 00:00:00
The best Zimmer action-movie soundtrack after Crimson Tide. Excellent to listen in a boring afternoon. Be careful. It's very militaristic.

David Annel reply Replies: 0 || 2006-12-10 00:00:00
great score !!!!!
my favourite soundtrack :-)

many greetings from germany !
david annel

OKKU reply Replies: 0 || 2006-09-25 00:00:00
ONLY CHASE TRACK.
THANKS Z&#304;MMER

roger reply Replies: 0 || 2006-09-11 00:00:00
It's a pity that the two Chopin pieces wre not included in the subject soundtrack. Anyone know of a version where they are included? Tks v m

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2006-09-08 00:00:00
Anyone knows the lyrics for the choir parts?

Many thanks.

Dusan reply Replies: 0 || 2006-07-10 00:00:00
For Vincent- It was Serbian! Not Russian! But anway, it's the St. Dimitrija Choir and they were singing "Jelici" (or "Elici").

Angel reply Replies: 0 || 2006-03-02 00:00:00
Buy the OST man

Jelmer reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-28 00:00:00
Where can i find the song called "--train"-- when the train rides throught the mountains ??


Angel reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-23 00:00:00
Perhaps it is the London Choir &-- a choral cue??

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