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Right. The difference between Zimmer and many other composers (for me at least) is that you can almost immediately tell if you like a Zimmer score off the bat. DMTNT is something that needs a few listens to grow on you, and so far I'm liking what I hear.<br><br>When I heard Fantastic Beasts for the first time I was initially disappointed but after about 3 listens and hearing it in context it became my favorite score of the year. Everyone is different of course, but I feel like this score will grow on people with time.Well... as you say, Zanelli's tunes tend to be less streamlined. You can hear it in his themes for Into the West, The Pacific, Outlander (the movie) and even the Spaniards themes in OST. <br><br>Not to say Zimmer's aren't great in their own merit, but are not always the same exact approach.For everyone complaining about the mix of this album don't forget, nothing beats Curse of the Black Pearl in terms of an awful recording mix. When you have a 'synthy' sounding orchestra and bass gain distortions that actually make it to album this really isn't anything in comparison.<br><br>And I think the key difference between Zimmer and Zanelli (at least on this franchises' terms) is that most of the themes Zimmer wrote for the franchise (Davy Jones, Beckett, Kraken, pretty much all of the original tunes from the 1st one, etc.) were actually incredibly simplistic. Geoff's tunes are less streamlined. They aren't bad by any means, but it's telling when the strongest parts are the reprises of things like Hoist the Colours and Marry Me."How did they manage to make a 100 piece orchestra sound like a demo for an off the shelf sample library?"<br><br>MV/RC has existed for over two decades now and you're actually still surprised at this? XDfinal veredict?
Oh dear . Where is the theme ?Comes across very likeable and enthusiastic.Now I'm even more excited!I'm on track 9 at the moment. Nothing especially memorable so far, but I do love the return of the Love Theme and Hoist the Colors.<br><br>Salazar's theme isn't as bad as I thought it would be, but it does seem to get repetative quickly. Hopefully the score isn't as blatantly bad on-screen as OST was. That film and score was a mess.Cool insight on POTC 5 !
Now that the album is out there I can easily say that I love this score. Definitely my 2nd favorite behind MoS. <br><br>Musically, much of it has that "Last Samurai/Transformers" power anthem style (with one of the themes sounding like King Arthur) but with RGW's string writing style as opposed to the bass heavy approach of those scores. The WW cello theme isn't used a whole lot, but when it gets some screen time it feels earned, and steals the show. The villain material is the weakest part, but instrumentally is pretty cool with the incorporation of the cimbalom (it reminds me slightly of Sherlock at points)<br><br>Overall, easily one of the best scores so far this year.Hans has not done this one because he was working on dunkirk at the time as far as I know. I saw the movie last night and for sure things like "What shall we die for", "One day", "Jack Sparrow", the legendary "He's a pirate" or even the bit of the musical clock/bell theme from davy jones and Calypso at the VERY end of the film are things that Hans wrote of course. In the movie itself you hear this stuff very often especially in the first hour of the movie which is packed with old themes. But Geoff Zanelli still wrote the other 60%/65% of the music so I can imagine that Hans said that they can give it to Zanelli because even if most of the themes are from Hans, he was most likely not heavily involved at the writing and scoring process. He was most likely there at the beginning of the process like Zanelli said in an interview and made sure that this story needed things like one day or the medallion calls. And he is not credited because of the fact that he was doing dunkirk and for sure his live tour and so he was like mentioned before only there at the beginning of the process and wrote/refined the new versions of one day or he's a pirate if he did anything. But i thought as well that they could have mentioned him in the credits like they mentioned Zanelly or even Steve Jablonsky in the credits of the first one or John Williams at Rogue One.I missed that, sorry! I agree with your other comment.<br><br>Jackman's contribution to the 2nd half of love suite, his rollicking orchestral mayhem in "I don't know if now is the best time" provide plenty of evidence of him imposing his style effectively on the material. <br>"Going back to ground 0" doesn't mean "make a poor movie".<br>I would like more Pirates movies, but not if they make them as bad as the 4th and 5th ones. They could have written an original story (I'm sure there are good writers out there who could have found something fresh) and started a new adventure just like the 2nd and 3rd movies did. It's not impossible.<br>But rather they just tried to remake the 1st movie. If they did it for the 5th one, why do you think they wouldn't do it for the 6th one? Judging by the post-credit scene, they are clearly not afraid of ripping off the previous movies even more... :-DHi Hans!<br><br>Your scores helped me pass through difficult times, in life.<br>Never heard music that touches me so deep inside.<br>Thanks - to you and your Team - and go on like this.<br>When do you come to Germany with your Team (live in concert)?<br><br>If you like to answer: atlantis42195@gmail.com<br>------------------------------------------<br>Hallo Hans!<br><br>Ein dickes Lob an Sie und Ihr Team.<br>Ihre Musik half mir, durch schwere Zeiten im Leben zu kommen.<br>Nie zuvor kannte ich Musik, welche mich derart berührt.<br>Wann kommen Sie wieder nach Deutschland, mit Ihrem Team?<br><br>Weiter so und beste Grüße, aus Düsseldorf!<br>Falls Sie antworten möchten:atlantis42195@gmail.com<br><br>Jill W.<br>
Yeah... I know what you mean...<br><br>First of all, I want this movie to be a fun ride. I cannot ask of it what I would ask of a Nolan production, for once. But I know I cannot ask of this movie what I would ask of a 2nd or a 3rd part. I say this because since DMTNT begins production they (producers) hinted it was the BEGINNING of a new adventure, So they had to go back to "ground 0". And is not too difficult to guess that they'd try the Star Wars formula; POTC 5 is basically Force Awakens in its intentions at the least.<br><br>So what really put me off is the fact that all this hate will only cause to not greenlit more adventures :( , because, well.. apparently audience doesn't want this dessert anymore.If that cheesy ending was "so so cool", it's just because it's a powerful reminder of how beautiful the 3rd movie was. And even more so in comparison to this dreadful 5th outing.Yeah I made a shitty suite ! :( :( :( lolLots of people complaining about the film and the score, makes me a little bit irritated. Of course this was never gonna reach the level of the first films. It never will be, it's been 10 years. I am a hugh fan of these films and after watching the new film I felt so good. That cheesy ending was actually so so cool. The movie wasn't perfect put they did some good things in it. I haven't heard this album yet but I listened to the samples and everything I wanted on this album, I did hear those parts in the samples. Afterwards I was humming that new adventure theme all day, even how unoriginal it is. It's cool and Carina's theme is a great new addition. This score is much than On Stranger Tides maybe think about that. Let this score grow on you. Most people now base their opinion on just this suite. Honestly ? It doens't reflect the score that well.I have yet to listen to the score, and I will after see the movie because I want to experience it on the movie itself first.<br><br>But if you read the very insightful interview with Zanelli for filmmusicamg, he talks about the "differences" between composers at RCP, and when Zimmer liked something of Zenelli its because, in Zimmer's words "it sounds so Geoff" (I think he was racalling it about Tia Dalma's theme and the tribal island music from DMC). So I think is kind of unfair to expect Geoff's music to sound very Zimmer's, realistically speaking. <br><br>I've been listening Zanelli's scores a few years now, and I think I Identify his style and his type os themes, which are not like Zimmer`s at all (talking about notes specifically)... so based on his scores I expect this to be a very Geoff Zanelli score leaning to POTC style and just a little of Zimmer.<br><br>You can see the differences in the OST album, just listen on what Zimmer composed and the listen the Spaniard's theme, which is by Zanelli.
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Main Themes - Score Producer
Hans ZimmerLorne BalfeNoah SorotaMark Mancina
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Call Of Duty - Modern Warfare 2 (VG)
Label: Activision (Digital Download Only)
Length: 52'31
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  1. Opening Titles (3:25)
  2. Extraction Point (3:35)
  3. Breach (3:22)
  4. Guerrilla Tactics (2:58)
  5. Seige (4:05)
  6. Infiltration (4:27)
  7. Espirit De Corps (3:07)
  8. Retreat And Reveille (2:57)
  9. Ordinance (1:58)
  10. Contingency (2:15)
  11. Onwards (2:27)
  12. Code Of Conduct (2:09)
  13. Chain Of Command (2:00)
  14. Safeguard (2:43)
  15. Deadline (3:55)
  16. Protocol (3:47)
  17. Coup De Grace (3:21)
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Jack reply Replies: 3 || 2011-09-23 00:23:47
I have a question: why Thomas Bergersen and Nick Phoenix aren't listed on the website anymore?


Damien, Moderator2011-09-23 05:27:58
Because they request to be removed.


Jack2011-09-23 10:59:50
Thank you.


Ele2011-11-03 01:12:20
But they are still part of RCP team, right? Or they just gave some additionals here and here and they went away?

TIENVIELEN reply Replies: 6 || 2011-10-06 02:01:32
YES!!! Brian Tyler composed the Score for Modern Warfare 3... He is so much better than Remote Control Composers.


Papapalpatine772011-10-06 03:26:32
In your opinion he is


TIENVIELEN2011-10-06 16:57:27
RC Composers are not creative. stolen from another composers or from hans zimmmer. hans zimmer copied himself.


Papapalpatine772011-10-06 17:41:29
Omm......then why are so many RCP scores sought-after? The Dark Knight, Sherlock Holmes, Inception, Pirates of the Caribbean,, Transformers, The Lion King, Crimson Tide, King Kong......the list goes on. Those are just off the top of my head.


cheesy2011-10-06 18:45:54
I think there's a big difference between "creativity" and "innovation". Honestly, I personally think Zimmer's protegees could work on the latter. It's not a matter of being creative, it's a matter of coming up with their own styles and ideas. Balfe, Djawadi, Badelt; they're all excellent composers, no doubt about that, but there is room for innovation with their solo projects. i.e., they don't have to make everything sound exactly like something HZ himself would write. I'm not saying I have a problem there, I mean, if it ain't broke don't fix it, and I certainly don't think it's broken. But I can feasibly see where you're coming from.

Now, the whole "mass-collaboration" thing may screw that up a bit, but I guess that's why I always think of Remote Control Productions as a mass amount of composers working as one. Like gears in a clock, to be cliche. Hans could do it all by himself, no doubt, but I respect his ideals regarding music being a collaborative process. So I think they all work congruent to one another on purpose, to keep continuity in the style for a film score.


Trent Easton Navarro2011-11-02 00:25:16
"Omm......then why are so many RCP scores sought-after?"

Same reason why McDonalds is so popular. It's easy, gives you instant satisfaction, and when in the mood there is nothing like it. But you'll always regret it after 30 minutes ;)

And King Kong is not a RCP score. Zimmer and JNH may be friends, but that doesn't make him part of the studio. The minions can only dream of being as talented as Howard :)


Anonymous2011-11-02 06:15:23
Hehe, nicely put Trent :)

Drunkenmunkey reply Replies: 2 || 2011-10-27 23:46:03
Any word on MW3 soundtrack release?


Evenstar2011-10-29 19:55:45
Yes: amazon.com/gp/product/B005ZLRT5S/


Alex.2011-10-30 01:28:16
I highly recommend RCP fans check this out - as it has musical continuity with Gregson-Williams/Barton's Modern Warfare & Zimmer/Balfe/Metzger's Modern Warfare 2.

The end credits just owns about 1/2 of the previous score.


cheesy reply Replies: 5 || 2011-09-14 02:50:59
Anyone know if Lorne Balfe and Hans Zimmer are scoring Modern Warfare 3?


T-Mann0362011-09-14 04:35:45
Bad news... Brian Tyler will be composing the video game scores for Call of Duty: MW3 (Modern Warfare 3).


cheesy2011-09-14 04:46:04
...whoops. Maybe I should've scrolled down a little further first lol sorry. But it could be worse... I was afraid I'd hear the name "Sean Murray" again... *shudders*


Levente2011-09-14 13:17:17
I would not call it bad news for Brian Tyler scoring the next MW game.


Khun2011-09-15 07:38:27
Brian Tyler has always been a good choice for action/thriler genre. Though his scores can be both great and just okay, they never go bad for me. I assume there will be some sort of RAMBO, THE EXPENDABLES and maybe BATTLE: LOS ANGELES in it but I strongly believe he can do much better than Sean Murray.


Ele2011-09-15 12:44:07
One of the gameplay trailers had music from Brian Tyler. And after what I've heard, I'm really satisfied. I believe Brian can deliver as good music as Balfe did.

fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-23 00:35:22
ok...

fabien reply Replies: 1 || 2011-06-22 14:25:05
musically, it looks for me evident that mark mancina worked on Safeguard...?


Bondo2011-06-22 23:22:15
"Safeguard" is actually on Noah Sorota's website

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-22 11:59:23
As far as which composer worked on which track, this is what I have so far:

1 - Hans Zimmer
2 - Lorne Balfe
3 - Lorne Balfe
4 - Atli Orvarsson
5 - Lorne Balfe
6 - Lorne Balfe
7 - Noah Sorota
8 - Lorne Balfe
9 - Lorne Balfe
10 - Lorne Balfe
11 - Lorne Balfe
12 - Atli Orvarsson
13 - Lorne Balfe
14 - Noah Sorota
15 - Nick Phoenix and Thomas Bergersen
16 - Lorne Balfe
17 - Lorne Balfe

Anyone know what Mark Mancina, Jacob Shea, and Dave Metzger worked on? From what I've gathered in interviews, they divided the levels up by composer.

Lynsey reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-15 17:32:28
That saves me. Thanks for being so sneibsle!

Lexine reply Replies: 0 || 2011-06-14 05:10:24
Now we know who the sesnible one is here. Great post!

T-Mann036 reply Replies: 10 || 2011-06-03 05:24:38
I wonder when Lorne will return in Modern Warfare 3?


Ele2011-06-03 19:34:13
He won't. Modern Warfare 3 will be scored by Brian Tyler :) Maybe Margesson will be aboard


Tim2011-06-05 19:04:08
@Ele
Is Brian Tyler/Matthew Margesson confirmed to score MW3? It would be very kind of you to share a link refering your info :)


Trent Easton Navarro2011-06-05 23:07:39
@ Tim

I've also heard the rumor Brian Tyler is scoring the 3th MW, but never anything official. Would be cool if Tyler got the gig. He's probably the best composer around these days.


Anonymous2011-06-06 04:21:11
@ Trent
Wrong.


Tim2011-06-06 12:07:18
@ Trent
Agreed. One of my fav composers. He did an awesome job on Lego Universe. :)


Alex2011-06-07 08:43:18
Hybrid - can you ask anyone at RCP whether they are scoring MW3 or not.

So - who is definitvely scoring Modern Warfare 3.

Though I agree Brian Tyler is a great choice.


Tim2011-06-07 16:43:46
h t t p://w w w.youtube.com/watch?v=eabDmJMC0tg - this is a live gameplay demonstration of MW3. you hear in some parts cues from both MW2 and MW2 for demonstration purposes. but from 6:44 till the end (during the awesome boat ride on Hudson River) you'll be note a new cue which sounds very much like Brian Tyler (pretty much like Rambo and Battle LA)!


Trent Easton Navarro2011-06-07 17:11:23
@ Tim

Hard to hear the music due to all the sound effects but it indeed sounded very Tyler-esque.

Slightly OT: the game looks pretty cool, although really over the top.


Trent Easton Navarro2011-06-08 01:48:56
According to Keith Power, one of Brian Tyler's arrangers, Tyler is indeed scoring MW3. Awesome!


Ele2011-06-08 08:19:46
In 8:00 (demo) a really cool cue starts, this is probably the main theme. And yeah, it seems music from MW1 and MW2 will be used as well. Or maybe that was just a temptrack

ettivon reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-08 00:00:00
cool

arevs reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-02 00:00:00
sry guys.. but where can i find the download link ? cant see it.. or am i blinded by mw2 flashes ? xD

Damien, Moderator reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-02 00:00:00
You have a link to amazon on the left side of the page.

Tim reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-11 00:00:00
In this game epic and exciting things are happening, but the music takes the experience to an unexpected high level of tension, pressure and drama.
btw am I the only person who was disappointed of the Black Ops score? (played it with Inception's music underneath :P)

M.M.r reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-11 00:00:00
He is Hans Zimmer ... no more in music world, he made the best sound trucks for the best like Black Hawk Dawn and Call of duty MW2 for example.. when i hear his music i feel it is talk to my deep mind and heart.
what do you think of him.... he is german this great beautiful country
Long live Hans Zimmer

jakiub reply Replies: 0 || 2010-12-31 00:00:00
good

drow reply Replies: 0 || 2010-12-25 00:00:00
thx

Snake reply Replies: 0 || 2010-12-19 00:00:00
God! I love this soundtrack! LONG LIVE ZIMMER!!!!!!!!!!

tom reply Replies: 0 || 2010-12-09 00:00:00
nice track

tTIKA reply Replies: 0 || 2010-12-06 00:00:00
Hans Zimmer is the best!

mohd zailee reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-15 00:00:00
u know what..i am metalhead and just listening to a real and honest music..i know this soundtrack is honest because i'm crying listening to it..u're great!!!!!!!!

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-01 00:00:00
It's probably second part of Extraction Point

Allan D reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-01 00:00:00
Hmm where is the Track "Whitehouse Battle" ?
it so grate... i love it.. but it not on the tracklist..

insertion reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-30 00:00:00
This are THE composers and musicians you want when you make a movie

Andrew reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-02 00:00:00
Love the game and all the music in it. The music makes things way me exciting...thax

Andrew reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-02 00:00:00
Love the game and all the music in it. The music makes things way me exciting...thax

Andrew reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-02 00:00:00
Love the game and all the music in it. The music makes things way me exciting...thax

Joker Fan reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-27 00:00:00
Just thanks for every Soundtrack you made, it's just amazing how they sound!

Andrik reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-19 00:00:00
Lorne Balfe, good work! Thank you, Hans Zimmer and Lorne Balfe for recording this amazing soundtrack.

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