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Right. The difference between Zimmer and many other composers (for me at least) is that you can almost immediately tell if you like a Zimmer score off the bat. DMTNT is something that needs a few listens to grow on you, and so far I'm liking what I hear.<br><br>When I heard Fantastic Beasts for the first time I was initially disappointed but after about 3 listens and hearing it in context it became my favorite score of the year. Everyone is different of course, but I feel like this score will grow on people with time.Well... as you say, Zanelli's tunes tend to be less streamlined. You can hear it in his themes for Into the West, The Pacific, Outlander (the movie) and even the Spaniards themes in OST. <br><br>Not to say Zimmer's aren't great in their own merit, but are not always the same exact approach.For everyone complaining about the mix of this album don't forget, nothing beats Curse of the Black Pearl in terms of an awful recording mix. When you have a 'synthy' sounding orchestra and bass gain distortions that actually make it to album this really isn't anything in comparison.<br><br>And I think the key difference between Zimmer and Zanelli (at least on this franchises' terms) is that most of the themes Zimmer wrote for the franchise (Davy Jones, Beckett, Kraken, pretty much all of the original tunes from the 1st one, etc.) were actually incredibly simplistic. Geoff's tunes are less streamlined. They aren't bad by any means, but it's telling when the strongest parts are the reprises of things like Hoist the Colours and Marry Me."How did they manage to make a 100 piece orchestra sound like a demo for an off the shelf sample library?"<br><br>MV/RC has existed for over two decades now and you're actually still surprised at this? XDfinal veredict?
Oh dear . Where is the theme ?Comes across very likeable and enthusiastic.Now I'm even more excited!I'm on track 9 at the moment. Nothing especially memorable so far, but I do love the return of the Love Theme and Hoist the Colors.<br><br>Salazar's theme isn't as bad as I thought it would be, but it does seem to get repetative quickly. Hopefully the score isn't as blatantly bad on-screen as OST was. That film and score was a mess.Cool insight on POTC 5 !
Now that the album is out there I can easily say that I love this score. Definitely my 2nd favorite behind MoS. <br><br>Musically, much of it has that "Last Samurai/Transformers" power anthem style (with one of the themes sounding like King Arthur) but with RGW's string writing style as opposed to the bass heavy approach of those scores. The WW cello theme isn't used a whole lot, but when it gets some screen time it feels earned, and steals the show. The villain material is the weakest part, but instrumentally is pretty cool with the incorporation of the cimbalom (it reminds me slightly of Sherlock at points)<br><br>Overall, easily one of the best scores so far this year.Hans has not done this one because he was working on dunkirk at the time as far as I know. I saw the movie last night and for sure things like "What shall we die for", "One day", "Jack Sparrow", the legendary "He's a pirate" or even the bit of the musical clock/bell theme from davy jones and Calypso at the VERY end of the film are things that Hans wrote of course. In the movie itself you hear this stuff very often especially in the first hour of the movie which is packed with old themes. But Geoff Zanelli still wrote the other 60%/65% of the music so I can imagine that Hans said that they can give it to Zanelli because even if most of the themes are from Hans, he was most likely not heavily involved at the writing and scoring process. He was most likely there at the beginning of the process like Zanelli said in an interview and made sure that this story needed things like one day or the medallion calls. And he is not credited because of the fact that he was doing dunkirk and for sure his live tour and so he was like mentioned before only there at the beginning of the process and wrote/refined the new versions of one day or he's a pirate if he did anything. But i thought as well that they could have mentioned him in the credits like they mentioned Zanelly or even Steve Jablonsky in the credits of the first one or John Williams at Rogue One.I missed that, sorry! I agree with your other comment.<br><br>Jackman's contribution to the 2nd half of love suite, his rollicking orchestral mayhem in "I don't know if now is the best time" provide plenty of evidence of him imposing his style effectively on the material. <br>"Going back to ground 0" doesn't mean "make a poor movie".<br>I would like more Pirates movies, but not if they make them as bad as the 4th and 5th ones. They could have written an original story (I'm sure there are good writers out there who could have found something fresh) and started a new adventure just like the 2nd and 3rd movies did. It's not impossible.<br>But rather they just tried to remake the 1st movie. If they did it for the 5th one, why do you think they wouldn't do it for the 6th one? Judging by the post-credit scene, they are clearly not afraid of ripping off the previous movies even more... :-DHi Hans!<br><br>Your scores helped me pass through difficult times, in life.<br>Never heard music that touches me so deep inside.<br>Thanks - to you and your Team - and go on like this.<br>When do you come to Germany with your Team (live in concert)?<br><br>If you like to answer: atlantis42195@gmail.com<br>------------------------------------------<br>Hallo Hans!<br><br>Ein dickes Lob an Sie und Ihr Team.<br>Ihre Musik half mir, durch schwere Zeiten im Leben zu kommen.<br>Nie zuvor kannte ich Musik, welche mich derart berührt.<br>Wann kommen Sie wieder nach Deutschland, mit Ihrem Team?<br><br>Weiter so und beste Grüße, aus Düsseldorf!<br>Falls Sie antworten möchten:atlantis42195@gmail.com<br><br>Jill W.<br>
Yeah... I know what you mean...<br><br>First of all, I want this movie to be a fun ride. I cannot ask of it what I would ask of a Nolan production, for once. But I know I cannot ask of this movie what I would ask of a 2nd or a 3rd part. I say this because since DMTNT begins production they (producers) hinted it was the BEGINNING of a new adventure, So they had to go back to "ground 0". And is not too difficult to guess that they'd try the Star Wars formula; POTC 5 is basically Force Awakens in its intentions at the least.<br><br>So what really put me off is the fact that all this hate will only cause to not greenlit more adventures :( , because, well.. apparently audience doesn't want this dessert anymore.If that cheesy ending was "so so cool", it's just because it's a powerful reminder of how beautiful the 3rd movie was. And even more so in comparison to this dreadful 5th outing.Yeah I made a shitty suite ! :( :( :( lolLots of people complaining about the film and the score, makes me a little bit irritated. Of course this was never gonna reach the level of the first films. It never will be, it's been 10 years. I am a hugh fan of these films and after watching the new film I felt so good. That cheesy ending was actually so so cool. The movie wasn't perfect put they did some good things in it. I haven't heard this album yet but I listened to the samples and everything I wanted on this album, I did hear those parts in the samples. Afterwards I was humming that new adventure theme all day, even how unoriginal it is. It's cool and Carina's theme is a great new addition. This score is much than On Stranger Tides maybe think about that. Let this score grow on you. Most people now base their opinion on just this suite. Honestly ? It doens't reflect the score that well.I have yet to listen to the score, and I will after see the movie because I want to experience it on the movie itself first.<br><br>But if you read the very insightful interview with Zanelli for filmmusicamg, he talks about the "differences" between composers at RCP, and when Zimmer liked something of Zenelli its because, in Zimmer's words "it sounds so Geoff" (I think he was racalling it about Tia Dalma's theme and the tribal island music from DMC). So I think is kind of unfair to expect Geoff's music to sound very Zimmer's, realistically speaking. <br><br>I've been listening Zanelli's scores a few years now, and I think I Identify his style and his type os themes, which are not like Zimmer`s at all (talking about notes specifically)... so based on his scores I expect this to be a very Geoff Zanelli score leaning to POTC style and just a little of Zimmer.<br><br>You can see the differences in the OST album, just listen on what Zimmer composed and the listen the Spaniard's theme, which is by Zanelli.
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Main Themes - Score Producer
Hans ZimmerLorne BalfeNoah SorotaMark Mancina
Composer : Main ThemeComposerAdditional MusicAdditional Music
Call Of Duty - Modern Warfare 2 (VG)
Label: Activision (Digital Download Only)
Length: 52'31
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  1. Opening Titles (3:25)
  2. Extraction Point (3:35)
  3. Breach (3:22)
  4. Guerrilla Tactics (2:58)
  5. Seige (4:05)
  6. Infiltration (4:27)
  7. Espirit De Corps (3:07)
  8. Retreat And Reveille (2:57)
  9. Ordinance (1:58)
  10. Contingency (2:15)
  11. Onwards (2:27)
  12. Code Of Conduct (2:09)
  13. Chain Of Command (2:00)
  14. Safeguard (2:43)
  15. Deadline (3:55)
  16. Protocol (3:47)
  17. Coup De Grace (3:21)
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Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-18 00:00:00
eto sovsem ne ploho!

DimkaBimka reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-04 00:00:00
Eto prosto klass!

Norm reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-22 00:00:00
@RuthlessGravity - Thanx!!!!

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-22 00:00:00
@ Norm

Opening Titles is main theme for the entire game, which is later broken down to sub-varients of the theme through-out the game and in the soundtrack.

Norm reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-21 00:00:00
Can you tell me which song plays the main theme (which can be heard in the game exactly before the end credits). Please help me! The Main Theme sounds so awesome - I just need it!

Jannik reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-20 00:00:00
I want the song of the infamy trailer! Serach at google! Over 1000 people want this song. Nobody can say, from who the song is! PLEASE tell us where we can buy it! PLEASE!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-17 00:00:00
*Coup De Grace* is so A.M.A.Z.I.N.G & I.N.C.R.E.D.I.B.L.E.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-06 00:00:00
Hi H.R.Taghavi, I'm so sorry about what happens in Iran, Iran is a great country and a great nation, i hope things are going to be better soon,and i wanna tell you that I'm very proud of a great Iranian composer Ramin Djawadi who works sometime with the great Hans Zimmer, you can search for him here, He's the composer of Prison Break and Iron Man. :)

Troy reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-05 00:00:00
Mr. Zimmer ive always wanted to see you and a band proforming the music from modern warfare 2 i believe it nwas some of your best work

wywern209 reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-25 00:00:00
Mr. Zimmer, is there any chance of getting on a CD? i am one of those people of the dying breed that like to hear music as it was recorded( lossless/ uncompressed). As an excellent composer of music, i am sure you understand the problem that compressed MP3 and AAC have. i would like the modern warefare 2 soundtrack to be released on CD so that i can listen to it in full sonic fidelity.

SIN reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-19 00:00:00
Where is "The Enemy of my enemy"?

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-19 00:00:00
SIN:
It is the Code of Conduct track.

H.R.Taghavi reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-17 00:00:00
hi Mr.Zimmer
my name is "H.R Taghavi".I'm a video clip maker, u know some thing about IRAN?
if u don't know any thing i can say u this is a name of country and it was the best country in world in 2500 years old but now.... it's change, u know Cpt.Price saied history is written by the victor.... every thing's changed,iran's chenged...! let me say better iran's going to fuck!!and i made a video clip for this disaster.the iranian's goverment are so demonly bad men.they killed their doghter, their mother, their family and their pepole for power(if u don't belive me search in google about "Neda Aghasoltan")!!! i was so sorry about this happened and i decied to make a clip with your track(modern warfare 2-start title),if u want to see this video i can send it for u,i realy love ur tracks, and every time i'm listening to ur traks spcialy "carraiben 3" and "modern warefare 2",i hope u make an track about iran and that track can say to the world what happend about iran,iran was the best country and now iran is not iran, iran now is I.R.Iran(Islamic Republic of Iran),u r an artist and ur langu is art,pls help us.
we don't want to kill... we don't want to be in prison, we don't want to be alive.... just we wanna life and love each other, in my country love is bad feel and every boy or gril when fall in love the police arested them u know that was so sadly,
my name is H.R,I'm a clip maker, i come from iran,and my yahoo mail is "h.r_cuteboy_2007@yahoo.com"
pls help us Mr.Zimmer...

Feliz Lombriz reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-14 00:00:00
So Nick Phoenix did the Oil Rig/Deadline. What parts did Thomas Bergersen do? Are they on this album? And is the bit Nick did for the Afghanistan caves on this album?

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-13 00:00:00
@ logos:

Nick Phoenix scored the Oil Rig part(s) and the Afghanistan Caves at the end.

logos reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-13 00:00:00
what did two steps from hell make for this game? Trailer music?

pureocean reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-12 00:00:00
Credits info from http://blog.roodo.com/koalalin/archives/12568387.html

Main Theme Composed and Score Produced by Hans Zimmer
Score Composed by Lorne Balfe
Score Mixer: Alan Meyerson
Additional Score by Atli Örvarsson, Dave Metzger, Mark Mancina, Noah Sorota, Jacob Shea, Nick Phoenix & Thomas Bergersen

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-07 00:00:00
@ Unknown

My version is titled "Evacuation - Crash Site", but there's no real official title to it.

Unknown reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-06 00:00:00
Whats the song called at the end of the mission "Of their Own Accord" when your flying in the Black Hawk???

Richard reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-05 00:00:00
@Levente

"Chain of Command" is actually an extended version of a small "Cliffhanger" action cue (cliffhanger_stealth_busted from the game rip). Everything else looks good, though.

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-05 00:00:00
I made a mistake:

"Code of Conduct" is played on The Enemy of My Enemy, in the airplane graveyard. This is good.

"Chain of Command" this is not in the game.

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-05 00:00:00
Jeff, End Credits is exactly Extraction Point. Only charge theme is little different, here is playing in full version, which is advantage for sure.

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-05 00:00:00
I had my chance to listen this new version and I have to tell that some tracks are a bit different than in the game.

But here is what i have got, to clear some tracks:

"Extraction Point" this is the second half of the End Credits.

"Breach" this is during the Gulag, but it is a new mix, not from the game, but I think sometimes when you are alredy in the Gulag prison and have to go through all the levels deep down.

"Guerrilla Tactics" it is when you try to escape Rojas, it is right at the beginning when that passenger airplane passes almost over you.

"Infiltration" when you are ordered to shoot down the Russian soldiers with the Javelins and after that, you have to shoot out the Russian armored vehicles with you Javelin, to help with the escape.

"Espirit De Corps" this is indeed during the "Cliffhanger" game but not in this from. This is a new mix.

"Retreat And Reveille" The first part is after you infiltrate Site Hotel Bravo, when Price says "Go Loud!". But the second part is a mixture with another track.

"Ordinance" is a mixture of two tracks. The knife scene at the end and from the "Remember...No Russian" part.

"Onwards" this piece is from exactly when you enter in to the Gulag with the help of the helicopters. During that you have to sniper out some enemy guys.

"Code of Conduct" is played on The Enemy of My Enemy, in the airplane graveyard.

"Chain of Command" used in the 2The Enemy of My Enemy is My Friend" but the first 20-30 seconds are different, nut sure from where.

"Deadline" the first seconds is on the submarine yes, but the rest is when you go aournd the oil rig and the Russians know you are there.

"Coup De Grace" not just when Roach and Ghost gets burned but also, when you see all the Russian airplanes and parachutes in the game "Wolverines!"

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-05 00:00:00
So far these are the only ones I think...

07 Espirit de corps (Noah Sorota)
12 Code of Conduct (Atli Örvarsson)
15 Deadline (Nick Phoenix)

Thoughts/suggestions?

Jeff reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-05 00:00:00
Great soundtrack, missing the best track though..."end credits" but still a great soundtrack! Is Hans on the new Black Ops game?

Dave reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-03 00:00:00
Jerry Goldsmith

fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-03 00:00:00
Even better than the bootleg score!!!! Amazing staff!

Coup De Grâce reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-03 00:00:00
Coup De Grâce is so unbelievable, one of the most incredible tunes I've ever heard, Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe are the most incredible people ever.

sb reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-02 00:00:00
okay, so who composed what? (specific tracks)

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