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Right. The difference between Zimmer and many other composers (for me at least) is that you can almost immediately tell if you like a Zimmer score off the bat. DMTNT is something that needs a few listens to grow on you, and so far I'm liking what I hear.<br><br>When I heard Fantastic Beasts for the first time I was initially disappointed but after about 3 listens and hearing it in context it became my favorite score of the year. Everyone is different of course, but I feel like this score will grow on people with time.Well... as you say, Zanelli's tunes tend to be less streamlined. You can hear it in his themes for Into the West, The Pacific, Outlander (the movie) and even the Spaniards themes in OST. <br><br>Not to say Zimmer's aren't great in their own merit, but are not always the same exact approach.For everyone complaining about the mix of this album don't forget, nothing beats Curse of the Black Pearl in terms of an awful recording mix. When you have a 'synthy' sounding orchestra and bass gain distortions that actually make it to album this really isn't anything in comparison.<br><br>And I think the key difference between Zimmer and Zanelli (at least on this franchises' terms) is that most of the themes Zimmer wrote for the franchise (Davy Jones, Beckett, Kraken, pretty much all of the original tunes from the 1st one, etc.) were actually incredibly simplistic. Geoff's tunes are less streamlined. They aren't bad by any means, but it's telling when the strongest parts are the reprises of things like Hoist the Colours and Marry Me."How did they manage to make a 100 piece orchestra sound like a demo for an off the shelf sample library?"<br><br>MV/RC has existed for over two decades now and you're actually still surprised at this? XDfinal veredict?
Oh dear . Where is the theme ?Comes across very likeable and enthusiastic.Now I'm even more excited!I'm on track 9 at the moment. Nothing especially memorable so far, but I do love the return of the Love Theme and Hoist the Colors.<br><br>Salazar's theme isn't as bad as I thought it would be, but it does seem to get repetative quickly. Hopefully the score isn't as blatantly bad on-screen as OST was. That film and score was a mess.Cool insight on POTC 5 !
Now that the album is out there I can easily say that I love this score. Definitely my 2nd favorite behind MoS. <br><br>Musically, much of it has that "Last Samurai/Transformers" power anthem style (with one of the themes sounding like King Arthur) but with RGW's string writing style as opposed to the bass heavy approach of those scores. The WW cello theme isn't used a whole lot, but when it gets some screen time it feels earned, and steals the show. The villain material is the weakest part, but instrumentally is pretty cool with the incorporation of the cimbalom (it reminds me slightly of Sherlock at points)<br><br>Overall, easily one of the best scores so far this year.Hans has not done this one because he was working on dunkirk at the time as far as I know. I saw the movie last night and for sure things like "What shall we die for", "One day", "Jack Sparrow", the legendary "He's a pirate" or even the bit of the musical clock/bell theme from davy jones and Calypso at the VERY end of the film are things that Hans wrote of course. In the movie itself you hear this stuff very often especially in the first hour of the movie which is packed with old themes. But Geoff Zanelli still wrote the other 60%/65% of the music so I can imagine that Hans said that they can give it to Zanelli because even if most of the themes are from Hans, he was most likely not heavily involved at the writing and scoring process. He was most likely there at the beginning of the process like Zanelli said in an interview and made sure that this story needed things like one day or the medallion calls. And he is not credited because of the fact that he was doing dunkirk and for sure his live tour and so he was like mentioned before only there at the beginning of the process and wrote/refined the new versions of one day or he's a pirate if he did anything. But i thought as well that they could have mentioned him in the credits like they mentioned Zanelly or even Steve Jablonsky in the credits of the first one or John Williams at Rogue One.I missed that, sorry! I agree with your other comment.<br><br>Jackman's contribution to the 2nd half of love suite, his rollicking orchestral mayhem in "I don't know if now is the best time" provide plenty of evidence of him imposing his style effectively on the material. <br>"Going back to ground 0" doesn't mean "make a poor movie".<br>I would like more Pirates movies, but not if they make them as bad as the 4th and 5th ones. They could have written an original story (I'm sure there are good writers out there who could have found something fresh) and started a new adventure just like the 2nd and 3rd movies did. It's not impossible.<br>But rather they just tried to remake the 1st movie. If they did it for the 5th one, why do you think they wouldn't do it for the 6th one? Judging by the post-credit scene, they are clearly not afraid of ripping off the previous movies even more... :-DHi Hans!<br><br>Your scores helped me pass through difficult times, in life.<br>Never heard music that touches me so deep inside.<br>Thanks - to you and your Team - and go on like this.<br>When do you come to Germany with your Team (live in concert)?<br><br>If you like to answer: atlantis42195@gmail.com<br>------------------------------------------<br>Hallo Hans!<br><br>Ein dickes Lob an Sie und Ihr Team.<br>Ihre Musik half mir, durch schwere Zeiten im Leben zu kommen.<br>Nie zuvor kannte ich Musik, welche mich derart berührt.<br>Wann kommen Sie wieder nach Deutschland, mit Ihrem Team?<br><br>Weiter so und beste Grüße, aus Düsseldorf!<br>Falls Sie antworten möchten:atlantis42195@gmail.com<br><br>Jill W.<br>
Yeah... I know what you mean...<br><br>First of all, I want this movie to be a fun ride. I cannot ask of it what I would ask of a Nolan production, for once. But I know I cannot ask of this movie what I would ask of a 2nd or a 3rd part. I say this because since DMTNT begins production they (producers) hinted it was the BEGINNING of a new adventure, So they had to go back to "ground 0". And is not too difficult to guess that they'd try the Star Wars formula; POTC 5 is basically Force Awakens in its intentions at the least.<br><br>So what really put me off is the fact that all this hate will only cause to not greenlit more adventures :( , because, well.. apparently audience doesn't want this dessert anymore.If that cheesy ending was "so so cool", it's just because it's a powerful reminder of how beautiful the 3rd movie was. And even more so in comparison to this dreadful 5th outing.Yeah I made a shitty suite ! :( :( :( lolLots of people complaining about the film and the score, makes me a little bit irritated. Of course this was never gonna reach the level of the first films. It never will be, it's been 10 years. I am a hugh fan of these films and after watching the new film I felt so good. That cheesy ending was actually so so cool. The movie wasn't perfect put they did some good things in it. I haven't heard this album yet but I listened to the samples and everything I wanted on this album, I did hear those parts in the samples. Afterwards I was humming that new adventure theme all day, even how unoriginal it is. It's cool and Carina's theme is a great new addition. This score is much than On Stranger Tides maybe think about that. Let this score grow on you. Most people now base their opinion on just this suite. Honestly ? It doens't reflect the score that well.I have yet to listen to the score, and I will after see the movie because I want to experience it on the movie itself first.<br><br>But if you read the very insightful interview with Zanelli for filmmusicamg, he talks about the "differences" between composers at RCP, and when Zimmer liked something of Zenelli its because, in Zimmer's words "it sounds so Geoff" (I think he was racalling it about Tia Dalma's theme and the tribal island music from DMC). So I think is kind of unfair to expect Geoff's music to sound very Zimmer's, realistically speaking. <br><br>I've been listening Zanelli's scores a few years now, and I think I Identify his style and his type os themes, which are not like Zimmer`s at all (talking about notes specifically)... so based on his scores I expect this to be a very Geoff Zanelli score leaning to POTC style and just a little of Zimmer.<br><br>You can see the differences in the OST album, just listen on what Zimmer composed and the listen the Spaniard's theme, which is by Zanelli.
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Main Themes - Score Producer
Hans ZimmerLorne BalfeNoah SorotaMark Mancina
Composer : Main ThemeComposerAdditional MusicAdditional Music
Call Of Duty - Modern Warfare 2 (VG)
Label: Activision (Digital Download Only)
Length: 52'31
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  1. Opening Titles (3:25)
  2. Extraction Point (3:35)
  3. Breach (3:22)
  4. Guerrilla Tactics (2:58)
  5. Seige (4:05)
  6. Infiltration (4:27)
  7. Espirit De Corps (3:07)
  8. Retreat And Reveille (2:57)
  9. Ordinance (1:58)
  10. Contingency (2:15)
  11. Onwards (2:27)
  12. Code Of Conduct (2:09)
  13. Chain Of Command (2:00)
  14. Safeguard (2:43)
  15. Deadline (3:55)
  16. Protocol (3:47)
  17. Coup De Grace (3:21)
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Dave reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-01 00:00:00
I Very like the estate themes "weit" & "escape". This is my favorite motive from the game.

Richard reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-01 00:00:00
I think "Chain of Command" is also the stealth-broken music for the airbase level.

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-31 00:00:00
"Extraction Point" is on the last level of the Rangers. Fighting your way through the White House, before finally popping green flares.

"Breach" is I remember correctly is the Prisoner 627 level, fighting through the castle.

"Guerrilla Tactics" is played when your chasing Rojas.

"Seige" is played when your walking out to the battlefield of Washington D.C.

"Infiltration" I think is played when your on the oil rig.

"Espirit De Corps" is played during the infiltration of the snow outpost, when you're first introduced to Roach.

"Retreat And Reveille" is I remember this correctly, is played when your leaving Makarov's safehouse.

"Ordinance" is played when your trying to pull the knife out from Roach's gut.

"Contingency" is played on Contingency level, short version though.

"Onwards" is played several times, but more prominently when your searching through the cell's, looking for Captain Price.

"Code of Conduct" is played on The Enemy of My Enemy, in the airplane graveyard.

"Chain of Command" is probably the most re-arranged piece to me. Not too sure.

"Safeguard" is a re-arranged piece of the snowmobile chase.

"Deadline" is played when your about to infiltrate the Oil Rig's, opens up in the submarines.

"Protocol" is played as a chase music on the zodiac's.

"Coup De Grace" is played when Roach and Ghost are about to burned by Shepard's private military, at the end of Loose Ends

Not 100% sure, but there ya have it.

Kusi81 reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-31 00:00:00
some corrections ;-)

"Guerrilla Tactics" -> I think that's a track from the escape mission from favela, after the roja chase

"Infiltration" -> DC-Mission, where you've to defend the house and shot some helicopters ;-)

"Ordinance" -> Airport-Mission? Also not sure about that

"Chain Of Command" -> Multiplayer-Remix Arrangement - a part of this track comes at the start of a multiplayer game.

"Retreat And Reveille" -> in the last mission where you walk through the caves of afganistan.

... The others are I think right, but I'm also not sure! :-)

Kusi81 reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-31 00:00:00
"Onwards" is played several times, but more prominently when your searching through the cell's, looking for Captain Price....

...and also when you're on the helicopter and on the flight to the gulag! :-) great cue!!!

Jeff R reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-31 00:00:00
I do not see this on iTunes anywhere. Did they pull it off for some reason?

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-31 00:00:00
@ Jeff R
Got mine from Amazon.com

@ Kusi81

"Chain of Command" is a multiplayer-remix? Woah, that's awesome.

Kusi81 reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-31 00:00:00
@RuthlessGravity: I think so yes, because when you start a mulityplayer game, then a short track with music starts. I think there are three or four. But the beginning of "Chain Of Command" is extended version of one of these tracks. I think that sounds better than "REMIX" ;-)

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-30 00:00:00
I'd love to see who-scored-what in this, especially Mark Mancina! Great release!!

Richard reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-30 00:00:00
According to Nick Phoenix he did the Oil Rig and Afghan Caves. I'm not too surprised -- I always thought "Deadline" sounded very Nick Phoenix-esque.

www.soundsonline-forums.com/showpost.php?p=213164&postcount= 48

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-30 00:00:00
"Exodus" aka Code Of Conduct is by Atli

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-30 00:00:00
anyone want to take a shot at what levels each track come from?

Danny reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-29 00:00:00
Fantastic release! Love the re-arrangements of everything heard before. :D

jean reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-29 00:00:00
do u sell the sound track in stores

Hayley reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-28 00:00:00
<b> nice job </b>

zem reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-28 00:00:00
I don't know if anybody noticed, but if you search "Modern Warfare" in iTS, you can find the Score for MW2.
Just a heads up. Sorry if you already noticed this.

zem reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-28 00:00:00
Additonal Note: It says in iTS the release date is June 1st, but I don't know why but its already there if you do a search.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-28 00:00:00
Yes indeed on iTunes it's listed to be released on June the 1st but... it's already available...


It's quite expensive on the French store (11'99€ O_O !!), but who cares ? :P


Gonna buy it later today !!

And I already know which tracks I'm gonna add to the Webradio ! Opening Titles, Code Of Conduct... And maybe more, we'll see... :P

Charles reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-28 00:00:00
Love this music!!

Kusi81 reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-28 00:00:00
Already bought this release! Great arrangements!!! :-)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-28 00:00:00
Me too, fantastic release !!! :D

Feared reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-28 00:00:00
It has good quality, and few nice new arrangements, but misses a lot of great cues.
I'll stick with the 3 hours version, but this is a good album too!

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-27 00:00:00
I just don't get it. Why mp3? Why can't Amazon or iTunes be selling lossless audio files? FLAC, APE, whatever. No way I'm ever paying for lossy formats, that's like selling e-books with every 5th word taken out of the text ;)

marin reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-27 00:00:00
can´t wait!!

davecall reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-27 00:00:00
where can i buy the record of this ost? has it released yet?

Bast reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-26 00:00:00
Is there going to be on iTunes release ???

MK reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-26 00:00:00
Is there going to be a CD release?

jon reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-26 00:00:00
you have the amazon link directly at the left side ;o)

Sato reply Replies: 0 || 2010-05-26 00:00:00
Great news!!

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