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Well, considering there's a lot more advanced orchestral writing in a lot of Transformers: The Game (which was composed by Jablonsky and Flood), than in many of Steve's other projects, I can't help but feel the more advanced stuff here was Flood too. Plus Flood's contribution to "Flying Battle" in D-War kind of makes him seem like the more advanced orchestra composer.Any idea about Bobby's credits here Hybrid? ASCAP doesn't list anything for the specific album cues and I got no idea what to search for regarding session names. Bobby is credited on the "Outlander Theme" though, so does that mean that every cue with the main theme present he should be credited?If you have no idea what exactly Flood contributed to the cues then theres not much reason to be sad about it.Credits for Jay Flood taken from his soundcloud: <br><br>Divine Magic Kingdom (Prelude)<br>Blessing (Annette Raleigh Theme)<br>Wonderland (Mark Theme)<br><br>Kind of sad to see "Blessing" and "Wonderland" were at least partially composed by Flood instead of Jablonsky, as those were the most rich, unique, and impressively composed.Some credits for Jay Flood taken from his soundcloud: Flashback, and Flying Battle<br><br>Sadly no credits for Pieter A. Schlosser that I've been able to find...
The greatest thing that could happen, if Katsuhiro Otomo, who returns after very long 15 years break, reunited with Steve for his new anime «Orbital Era». I don't know the story behind the creation of «Steamboy» and how Steve get that job, but this was one of the best works of Jablosnky and my favorite. <br><br>It could be the greatest joy to hear Steve in full-orchestral mod and in anime-project like this.<br><br>I know, that all of this is a long shot and almost imposible, but you never know how things could turn.I am still surprised that "X-SS" isn't inserted into "Gap." That is easily the best iteration of the main theme.This is seems like HBO wanting to get Djawadi and couldn't get him so they get the guy next door. <br><br>Honestly, they should have gone for Wallfisch or Harry Gregson-Williams (probably too busy with Mulan).Poor Micheal thinks Mikeal's response is simple disagreement when it contains sentences like;<br><br>"Also film music doesn’t have to sound like it’s from the 1960’s all the time." Implying that's the only music Edmund likes.<br><br>Also, poor Micheal thinks pages can't have any other discussion other than the movies on them! (Plus, considering the fact that Balfe does do projects in a short time span all the time, it's not exactly negative to point out that producers hire him for that task too much.)Poor Edmund thinks disagreeing is having a go !thought this page was about crawl and the music by Aruj and Steffen????they did a great job and the film was fun.
Been a while since one of Balfe's paid (or unpaid?) shills had a go at me. I'm almost nostalgic. :pEdmund maybe listen and watch the show first before being negative about it?Nice strawmanning there MikealTypical Edmund response!!<br>Balfe doesn’t always write the most amazing scores but when he does it’s the best.if Balfe was only “good enough” why do the world top directors want to work with him ????????<br>Also film music doesn’t have to sound like it’s from the 1960’s all the time.Balfe seems to choose projects that don’t always require big melodies all the time.Zaras a girl and I agree with Edmund there is some sine signals and noise in the upper register that is noticeable in some cues. But that's the nature of the media it was recorded on. <br><br>You could use a spectral repair tool and non-destructive noise removal tool to fix them, such as those found in iZotope RX<br>
so only you can hear it eh? Zaralyth? that you? lolWhile I'm sure the Lorne haters will be unhappy, I was very excited today to learn that Mr. Balfe is composing the score for the BBC's new "His Dark Materials" series (adaption of the same book that guided the 2007 film "The Golden Compass", composed by Desplat). I think there might actually be enough emotional material in this project to have Lorne finally write some melodies again! :)Has anyone noticed a high-pitched whining in the background of some tracks? It's particularly bad in the mid-section of "Witt in Brig/Tall and Quintard", from about 4 minutes onwards. It's such a high frequency that I bet a lot of people wouldn't hear it (including the QA team at LLL, I guess), but I can and it's really debilitating.Yeah it's an underwhelming choice for me. Balfe feels like the guy you get when you want "good enough", or when you need a score turned over in a really short time. Doesn't speak to much ambition on the showrunners' part when it comes to the music in this series. I'm sure it won't be bad, but I doubt it will be amazing.Heh, if it's anything like the 1994 score, then you'll be waiting a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time.
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Mark MancinaDon HarperJohn Van TongerenChristopher Ward
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Speed 2 - Cruise Control
Label: La-La Land Records
Length: 70'24
HZimmer.com rating:        5/5
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  1. Twentieth Century Fox Fanfare - Motorcycle Chase (4:18)
    Mark Mancina
  2. Alex And Annie - Caribbean Cruise (4:42)
    Mark Mancina
  3. Engine Room (5:02)
    Mark Mancina, John Van Tongeren
  4. Overboard (8:40)
    Mark Mancina, Don Harper, John Van Tongeren
  5. Last Lifeboat (7:01)
    Mark Mancina, Don Harper
  6. Goodbye, Alex (4:06)
    Mark Mancina, Christopher Ward
  7. Reunion (2:43)
    Mark Mancina, Christopher Ward
  8. Tanker Turn (5:02)
    Mark Mancina, John Van Tongeren
  9. Geiger Grabs Annie (1:48)
    Mark Mancina, John Van Tongeren
  10. Escape (7:31)
    Mark Mancina
  11. The Harbor (7:16)
    Mark Mancina, Don Harper
  12. Final Chase (7:23)
    Mark Mancina, Don Harper
  13. Underwater Rescue (1:46)
    Mark Mancina
  14. Cruising (2:58)
    Mark Mancina
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Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 1 || 2012-02-03 12:51:23
A question: If Christopher Ward and Don Harper are only credited as arranger and orchestrator, does that mean they didn't actually compose the cues they are credited on?


Dawn2012-02-04 14:49:14
That means they helped in some ways and at some point during the creation of those cues.

There is no way to know if they did 1% or 100% of the cues they worked on.

Aggelos reply Replies: 0 || 2011-12-04 16:21:52
This is a great score - 5/5! Too bad the La-La Land release didn't feature some extra music/cues from the Speed 2 promo....
Despite that, it's a freaking awesome release for all the Mark Mancina (and action score) fans out there!! Grab it while it lasts!


Jason LeBlanc did a quick comparison to the composer promo, and this is what he came up with :
01 Main Title (1:51) = 01 Twentieth Century Fox Fanfare / Motorcycle Chase (0:00-1:47) (with clean ending)
02 Annie & Alex (2:16) = 02 Alex and Annie (0:00-2:12) (with clean ending)
03 Seabourn Legend (2:54) = NOT ON LA LA LAND (Similar to 14 Cruising (2:58))
04 Geiger (3:46) = 03 Engine Room (0:00-3:20) then the tick tock percussion isolated on the composer promo plays under the next cue on the LLL
05 Eindhoven Lion (0:35) = NOT ON LA LA LAND
06 Close The Hatch (1:31) = 06 Goodbye Alex (2:38-4:06) (with clean opening)
07 Lifeboat (1:54) = 07 Reunion (0:00-1:50) (with clean ending)
08 Bow Thrusters (2:21) = 08 Tanker Turn (0:00-2:18) (with clean ending)
09 Grenade (0:54) = NOT ON LA LA LAND
10 Evacuation (6:59) = 05 Last Lifeboat (7:01)
11 Why Don't We Stop (0:48) = 12 Final Chase (0:00-0:42) (with clean ending)
12 Crashing Into The Island (6:42) = 12 Final Chase (0:42-7:23) (with clean opening)
13 Golfclubs (1:43) = 13 Underwater Rescue (1:46)
14 Caribbean (0:53) = NOT ON LA LA LAND
15 Tuneman (3:53) = NOT ON LA LA LAND
16 That's Odd (1:18) = 04 Overboard (0:00-1:14) (with clean ending)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-23 00:00:00
Engine Room => Mancina / Van Tongeren

Overboard => Mancina / Van Tongeren / Harper

Last Lifeboat => Mancina / Harper

Goodbye, Alex => Mancina / Ward

Reunion => Mancina / Ward

Tanker Run => Mancina / Van Tongeren

Geiger Grabs Annie => Mancina / Van Tongeren

The Harbor => Mancina / Harper

Final Chase => Mancina / Harper


To be extreeeeeeemely precise !! ;)

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-23 00:00:00
I know only 2 cues credited John Van Tongeren (from his own website) :
"Auto-Pilot" which is heard in the last minute of "Engine Room", and "Man Overboard" which is the first minute of "Overboard".
But as "additional music credits" always is quiet tricky, I'm not sure these cues were fully arranged by JVT...

Btw, from what I read in the Speed 2 liner note, I think the promo cues "Seabourne Legend" and "We Not Gonna Stop" are some kind of themes suites (cues not meant to synchronize to pictures but developping primary ideas from the score) that the music editor incorporated several small bits into the movie.

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-23 00:00:00
Is any of Van Tongeren's music contained in this release?

Iceboy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-17 00:00:00
Mr Tweedy, I dont have this score nor have I seen the film. What tracks are different to the film music?

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-17 00:00:00
@Iceboy
Here we go :

"Caribbean Cruise" is different from the film version. You can find the film version on Speed 2 promo ("Welcome to the Seabourne Legend"). IMO, film/promo version is WAY better than Lala version !

"Engine Room" is a mix of two cues used in the movie, but the sound editor decided to butcher both those tracks in the movie.

There's a cue missing after "Engine Room", featured on the promo (sometimes called "We Not Gonna Stop" or "Evacuation"). But in the movie they butchered it, and you only hear a few seconds of it.

There's a cue missing after "Goodbye, Alex" (when Annie opens a door with a chainsaw). You can hear similar music during the middle of "Escape". Not featured on the promo.

There's a cue missing after "Tanker Turn", featured on the promo, but I don't find its name. It was called "Grenade" I think, but was used when Geiger is about to leave the ship.

Another cue missing, after "Escape", featured on the promo : "A Peaceful Village" or "Caribbean", depending on which version you got. In fact, this "Caribbean" cue replaces a few seconds of "The Harbor" in the movie (just before the action section begins).

The end of the film doesn't contain any unreleased material. They edited "Alex and Annie" and "Welcome to the Seabourne Legend" so the music matches the pictures. But these are not "unreleased cues".

"Cruising" has its beginning used earlier in the movie, but all the saxophone part was rejected. You hear something like 40 seconds of it.

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-17 00:00:00
@Iceboy

Oh well, I forgot to fill the name !
That was... me :)

Andy reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-15 00:00:00
Thank you very much Mark Mancina!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-08 00:00:00
Sometimes I wonder if La-La's doing it on purpose...

Generally they misspell Names, like "Pouchet" instead of "Fouchet" in Bad Boys, "Gieger" instead of "Geiger" here...

Legal issues ? :P

Boss reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-08 00:00:00
My bad, it really has errors on back cover.

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-08 00:00:00
What do you mean; "Carribean" with two Rs is written on the back cover. How is that not a spelling error? ;) Unless of course they corrected it on a newer batch.

Boss reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-08 00:00:00
There are no spelling errors on CD's tracks, only in this website.

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-25 00:00:00
Wow, there's two spelling errors on the back of the case - "Carribean" instead of "Caribbean" and "Gieger" instead of "Geiger"... how the hell does that happen, is there no one to check the spelling before they friggin' print it 3000 times? Otherwise flawless album presentation by La-La Land though...

fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-25 00:00:00
Probably the best from Mark. Rythmic, thematic and lyric at the same time with this touch of Zimmer 's sound sometimes.. awesome!

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-22 00:00:00
Yeah, fantastic score!

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-18 00:00:00
Great release, La La Land!!! :D

Mikel Siw (a fan from Spain) reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-18 00:00:00
Nice Album :__:

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-18 00:00:00
Wonderful score. 13 years and we finally get it. Can't wait, really ! Mancina at his best.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-10 00:00:00
Caaaaaaaan't wait !!! :D

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