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He’s definitely not a bad reviewer, and his writing style is pretty sharp. The obvious problem is that he has a strong bias against Zimmer. Most of his recent Zimmer reviews are less spent talking about themes and more so the “issues” with his current style.'At World's End' is possibly one of his greatest 'missteps' for sure, but he is a mostly reasonable guy when reviewing, and simply has a taste that doesn't accomodate a lot of the more modern sounding scores, which I think is ok, since we all have our preferences. His 'Solo' review is a must read for any fan of the score though. :DIf you want to understand why he's persona non grata, just go and check out his review of Hans Zimmer's masterpiece At World's End, it sums up pretty nicely the guy's mental issues :p<br><br>But his other reviews are mostly OK and that Solo one is indeed very good, worth a read.Who is he and why is he a persona non grata? ô_OHow dare you mention his name ??<br><br>I should erase that post... :P
What site are his reviews on again? Not really sure where to look.As long as Steve knows to keep this score mostly melodic with little to no sound design, I'll probably be happy with it.I assume that's the official cover....<br><br>I dig it. Very Die Hard-y : )I know Clemmensen is kind of persona non grata around here (not without good reason), but he put up his review of Solo a few days ago and it's one of the best he's ever written, a fantastic in-depth analysis (and appropriately positive). Worth spending an hour or two reading and listening to help unpack this score's many complexities.Is it just me or does the “Catwoman” riff (not the main theme) in “Bar Shootout” and “Nothing Out There” sound very much like the main Scarface theme?<br><br>I’ve also noticed that Hans sometimes will write a main tune and a series of riffs for a character, but will mainly incorporate the smaller motifs in the film (Angelica’s music from OST, Megamind’s main tune, Catwoman, etc.) Definitely not a problem though, I like the variety.<br><br>Look at the evolution of Batman’s theme from Begins, where he had the 2-note motif and the actual theme, to here where it’s just the 2 notes and the chord theme. I wonder if that was Chris Nolan’s decision.
John Powell answered in Facebook there is still 45 minutes of music outside from the CD.Yep, he knows how to do BIG and small moments. He's so versatile. I'm praying rian johnson uses him for his new trilogyThank you! Glad you enjoyed it.If there is one who can replace John Williams on Star Wars than is it John Powell!!<br><br>Great Job!!It sounds great ! I think I will listen to the CD after the hamburg concert, to keep the surprise, because they will play some cues there ! <br><br>Are some french JP fans going to Hamburg next week ? It would be great to have a beer and talk about film music !
Dear Mr. Zimmer (or those interested), <br><br>  Over the years I have always enjoyed some of the higher-intensity compositions you have produced and made a point of putting my money where my mouth is and actually buying the soundtracks - money well spent. I've used specific songs of your's to get through moments of fatigue at work and also to prepare (silly as it may sound) for sporting events, even working out or running. I found them better than any rock or even electronic-type energetic music, until such a point, naturally, that I'd listened to them too many times and the magic wore off. Some of your songs rise to a crescendo that sometimes are powerful but perhaps lost on those who are unfamiliar with the corresponding movie scene ("Flight" from Man of Steel, it rises gradually but the concept you capture is magnificent, "Time" from Inception as well comes to mind). Some are obviously and undeniably potent like "A Dog Chasing Cars" or, going way back to when I learned of your work, "The Battle" from Gladiator which reminded me of "Mars, the Bringer of War", -- or even the latest "Sea Wall".<br><br>  Admittedly this is odd but I can't help but wonder if despite all the solicitations you must receive it seemed to me I might as well send the following two-fold feedback: in the same way I was pleased to learn that Daft Punk was handling the soundtrack for the modern remake of TRON (and what a fine job they did) I was also heartened to find that you were handling the soundtrack for Blade Runner 2049. It seemed a good sign to me at the time and I knew I would buy a ticket at that point. That was a movie (BR2049) I was worried they would BOTCH much in the same way they completely did whatever it was they did with remake of Total Recall (in which they completely stripped it of its cerebral essence and made it a very long chase-scene). <br><br>  All of this is to express some appreciation and also plug an obscure pianist from Montreal who has been on the CBC and all that, who, when I spoke to him after a show and compared some of his energetic imaginative work (Nostos comes to mind, and damn he hit 99% of those complex piano notes) to your's he admitted it was a dream of his to work with you under any capacity. Of course I suspect nothing will come of this but either way I think it harmless to tip my hat your way as a long-time fan who has utilized your music for motivation many, many, many times and also note that on my esoteric playlists five or six came from you and one or two came from him (Nostos, Il, Hypoctite)<br><br> Lastly, it should be noted for the historians that one time Jean-Michel Blais saved us Canadians (if you do the collective math based on viewership) a great deal of time and intellectual agony. Chevy was running commercials during the NHL playoffs (last year, not the the latest Washington Capitals win) in which an irritating scenario of "real people" were supposed to judge cars/trucks that popped out from behind sliding doors or lifted from basements (aircraft-carrier-style), and the poor fools/actors/allegedly "real people" had to say something nice about it all. It was such garbage. How splendid, how refreshing, then, that they ran a good commercial with someone just winding corners and enjoying driving the damn car to the music, which I recognized as JMB's "Hypocrite". He saved the society a good 10k hours of perniciousness.<br><br>Whew! That's all from me. Love the music, keep it up. Please give JMB a shot I think you'll find his attitude/ethic/skills refreshing. Regardless of that at least it was worthwhile of me to express my appreciation for ten years of masterful original music on your part anyway.Separate question:<br><br>Is Toby Chu part of RCP? I think he had some connections at least right?Why wouldn't Hans go all-out for something that's going to be viewed on this scale? I mean, how hard is it to compose 45 seconds of compelling, original music when you've worked on innumerable 2+ hour films?Woah, Hans actually did good work on this; it's admittedly a bit anonymous-sounding, but the combination of percussion, strings, and choir works in a way that's reminiscent of Angels & Demons (oh, those were the days...).John just precised this point, i was just too impatient ;)
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Mark MancinaDon HarperJohn Van TongerenChristopher Ward
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Speed 2 - Cruise Control
Label: La-La Land Records
Length: 70'24
HZimmer.com rating:        5/5
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  1. Twentieth Century Fox Fanfare - Motorcycle Chase (4:18)
    Mark Mancina
  2. Alex And Annie - Caribbean Cruise (4:42)
    Mark Mancina
  3. Engine Room (5:02)
    Mark Mancina, John Van Tongeren
  4. Overboard (8:40)
    Mark Mancina, Don Harper, John Van Tongeren
  5. Last Lifeboat (7:01)
    Mark Mancina, Don Harper
  6. Goodbye, Alex (4:06)
    Mark Mancina, Christopher Ward
  7. Reunion (2:43)
    Mark Mancina, Christopher Ward
  8. Tanker Turn (5:02)
    Mark Mancina, John Van Tongeren
  9. Geiger Grabs Annie (1:48)
    Mark Mancina, John Van Tongeren
  10. Escape (7:31)
    Mark Mancina
  11. The Harbor (7:16)
    Mark Mancina, Don Harper
  12. Final Chase (7:23)
    Mark Mancina, Don Harper
  13. Underwater Rescue (1:46)
    Mark Mancina
  14. Cruising (2:58)
    Mark Mancina
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Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 1 || 2012-02-03 12:51:23
A question: If Christopher Ward and Don Harper are only credited as arranger and orchestrator, does that mean they didn't actually compose the cues they are credited on?


Dawn2012-02-04 14:49:14
That means they helped in some ways and at some point during the creation of those cues.

There is no way to know if they did 1% or 100% of the cues they worked on.

Aggelos reply Replies: 0 || 2011-12-04 16:21:52
This is a great score - 5/5! Too bad the La-La Land release didn't feature some extra music/cues from the Speed 2 promo....
Despite that, it's a freaking awesome release for all the Mark Mancina (and action score) fans out there!! Grab it while it lasts!


Jason LeBlanc did a quick comparison to the composer promo, and this is what he came up with :
01 Main Title (1:51) = 01 Twentieth Century Fox Fanfare / Motorcycle Chase (0:00-1:47) (with clean ending)
02 Annie & Alex (2:16) = 02 Alex and Annie (0:00-2:12) (with clean ending)
03 Seabourn Legend (2:54) = NOT ON LA LA LAND (Similar to 14 Cruising (2:58))
04 Geiger (3:46) = 03 Engine Room (0:00-3:20) then the tick tock percussion isolated on the composer promo plays under the next cue on the LLL
05 Eindhoven Lion (0:35) = NOT ON LA LA LAND
06 Close The Hatch (1:31) = 06 Goodbye Alex (2:38-4:06) (with clean opening)
07 Lifeboat (1:54) = 07 Reunion (0:00-1:50) (with clean ending)
08 Bow Thrusters (2:21) = 08 Tanker Turn (0:00-2:18) (with clean ending)
09 Grenade (0:54) = NOT ON LA LA LAND
10 Evacuation (6:59) = 05 Last Lifeboat (7:01)
11 Why Don't We Stop (0:48) = 12 Final Chase (0:00-0:42) (with clean ending)
12 Crashing Into The Island (6:42) = 12 Final Chase (0:42-7:23) (with clean opening)
13 Golfclubs (1:43) = 13 Underwater Rescue (1:46)
14 Caribbean (0:53) = NOT ON LA LA LAND
15 Tuneman (3:53) = NOT ON LA LA LAND
16 That's Odd (1:18) = 04 Overboard (0:00-1:14) (with clean ending)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-23 00:00:00
Engine Room => Mancina / Van Tongeren

Overboard => Mancina / Van Tongeren / Harper

Last Lifeboat => Mancina / Harper

Goodbye, Alex => Mancina / Ward

Reunion => Mancina / Ward

Tanker Run => Mancina / Van Tongeren

Geiger Grabs Annie => Mancina / Van Tongeren

The Harbor => Mancina / Harper

Final Chase => Mancina / Harper


To be extreeeeeeemely precise !! ;)

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-23 00:00:00
I know only 2 cues credited John Van Tongeren (from his own website) :
"Auto-Pilot" which is heard in the last minute of "Engine Room", and "Man Overboard" which is the first minute of "Overboard".
But as "additional music credits" always is quiet tricky, I'm not sure these cues were fully arranged by JVT...

Btw, from what I read in the Speed 2 liner note, I think the promo cues "Seabourne Legend" and "We Not Gonna Stop" are some kind of themes suites (cues not meant to synchronize to pictures but developping primary ideas from the score) that the music editor incorporated several small bits into the movie.

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-23 00:00:00
Is any of Van Tongeren's music contained in this release?

Iceboy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-17 00:00:00
Mr Tweedy, I dont have this score nor have I seen the film. What tracks are different to the film music?

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-17 00:00:00
@Iceboy
Here we go :

"Caribbean Cruise" is different from the film version. You can find the film version on Speed 2 promo ("Welcome to the Seabourne Legend"). IMO, film/promo version is WAY better than Lala version !

"Engine Room" is a mix of two cues used in the movie, but the sound editor decided to butcher both those tracks in the movie.

There's a cue missing after "Engine Room", featured on the promo (sometimes called "We Not Gonna Stop" or "Evacuation"). But in the movie they butchered it, and you only hear a few seconds of it.

There's a cue missing after "Goodbye, Alex" (when Annie opens a door with a chainsaw). You can hear similar music during the middle of "Escape". Not featured on the promo.

There's a cue missing after "Tanker Turn", featured on the promo, but I don't find its name. It was called "Grenade" I think, but was used when Geiger is about to leave the ship.

Another cue missing, after "Escape", featured on the promo : "A Peaceful Village" or "Caribbean", depending on which version you got. In fact, this "Caribbean" cue replaces a few seconds of "The Harbor" in the movie (just before the action section begins).

The end of the film doesn't contain any unreleased material. They edited "Alex and Annie" and "Welcome to the Seabourne Legend" so the music matches the pictures. But these are not "unreleased cues".

"Cruising" has its beginning used earlier in the movie, but all the saxophone part was rejected. You hear something like 40 seconds of it.

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-17 00:00:00
@Iceboy

Oh well, I forgot to fill the name !
That was... me :)

Andy reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-15 00:00:00
Thank you very much Mark Mancina!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-08 00:00:00
Sometimes I wonder if La-La's doing it on purpose...

Generally they misspell Names, like "Pouchet" instead of "Fouchet" in Bad Boys, "Gieger" instead of "Geiger" here...

Legal issues ? :P

Boss reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-08 00:00:00
My bad, it really has errors on back cover.

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-08 00:00:00
What do you mean; "Carribean" with two Rs is written on the back cover. How is that not a spelling error? ;) Unless of course they corrected it on a newer batch.

Boss reply Replies: 0 || 2010-07-08 00:00:00
There are no spelling errors on CD's tracks, only in this website.

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-25 00:00:00
Wow, there's two spelling errors on the back of the case - "Carribean" instead of "Caribbean" and "Gieger" instead of "Geiger"... how the hell does that happen, is there no one to check the spelling before they friggin' print it 3000 times? Otherwise flawless album presentation by La-La Land though...

fabien reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-25 00:00:00
Probably the best from Mark. Rythmic, thematic and lyric at the same time with this touch of Zimmer 's sound sometimes.. awesome!

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-22 00:00:00
Yeah, fantastic score!

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-18 00:00:00
Great release, La La Land!!! :D

Mikel Siw (a fan from Spain) reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-18 00:00:00
Nice Album :__:

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-18 00:00:00
Wonderful score. 13 years and we finally get it. Can't wait, really ! Mancina at his best.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2010-06-10 00:00:00
Caaaaaaaan't wait !!! :D

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