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Hybrid, what did Danny think of what Hans was doing? Since he tries to claim that no Batman composer after him wrote a "theme"...Okay, so I'm not a fan of Balfe's; I think it's objectively the case that much of his music is very, very similar to work he's already done (seriously, how many times has he made obviously variations of Journey to the Line / Time?). However, his best work is both highly creative and emotionally compelling IMO, not sure how one could expect more than that. Ironclad is actually a good example of thisActually Hybrid my comment is based on their separate  interviews years apart. Zimmer's arguably dismissive comment years ago and Elfman's arguably stern remark about his theme being the only Batman theme, of recent note. <br><br>If they are both good friends who go to each other's barbecues on Sundays and drink beer together, more power to them. If they have a stellar working relationship, well, I obviously am not privy to that, but good on them. However based on what I've heard my impressions don't lean towards the latter.<br><br>If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. <br>  <br><br><br>"Listen to the 'scores' he composed. At best, marginal efforts in sound libraries, they are just utterly shitty."<br><br>Blackwood might want to have a word with you.Too many songs! But at least there is 15 tracks of score.<br><br>BTW, I don't think Djawadi is able just to do themes. His score in GoT Season 7 shows that he is able to do action tracks very well. Also, in GoT Season 6, he shows that he is able to have many themes and develop them in many different ways.
Meta your comment is based on smoke...<br><br><br>Do you have any idea of what Hans & Elfman's relation is ? How many scores Danny mixed at Remote Control ? That when Hans was writing Batman Begins, Danny was in the next room and Hans invited him to check what he was doing ? How many people from RCP Elfman recruited to help him ?lol it's too funny the guy even spent the time of typing all this...<br><br>Some people apparently have very boring lives on this planet !These comments by “Balfe” are comical.god knows where such venom comes from . Maybe an ex employee probably.he was correct on one point .He is indeed a trailer composer.He just did the mission impossible trailer!!!LOL. I guess this "Balfe" guy is one of those trolls from Stop RCP group.Many benevolent saviours explaining the error of our music tastes have surfaced recently, haven't they?
Eh, Mr. Ellipsis, I have to take issue with your appeal to popularity. Justin Bieber sells millions of records. That doesn't make his music good. Last year's piece of crap pointless Beauty and the Beast remake made a frankly terrifying amount of money at the box office. Doesn't stop it being a piece of crap.Guys, I know a lot of you probably think I'm an overly critical snob, but next time you do, just remember this guy and realize how much worse I could be. :pBalfe is not a composer, but still he gets to compose dozens of films and shows every single year, wow. He must be doing something good if he is on of the most busiest composers out there, don´t you think? Or you want to tell me that every producer, director or whoever hires him is deaf? Do you know how many films had to be re-scored by Balfe in the past few years? <br><br>Why you feed the troll?<br><br>Wrong.<br><br>1. Wallfish is a very fine composer, period. Hans is a synth guy.<br><br>2. If Hans wasn't concern about BR he wouldn't do it.<br><br>3. Slavery was abolished 150 years ago. Hans choose to did it and agreed to involve Wallfish.<br><br>4. Maybe true, but it wasn't the thought of Villeneuve.
here we go again:<br>Why Hans Zimmer Got The Job You Wanted (And You Didn’t)<br>https://behindtheaudio.com/2013/07/hans-zimmer/Hey you guys.<br><br>Balfe is a trailer composer not someone who composes real scores. He helps Hans out on his projects and occasionally may have a good idea. He is not an artist, simple as that.<br><br>Listen to the 'scores' he composed. At best, marginal efforts in sound libraries, they are just utterly shitty. The epitome of that is Terminator Genisys that even fans of the franchise found embarassing (and that is for a series based on synth scores). The samples are especially abhorrent<br><br>How he climbed to compose music for real films is a mystery. Go back to one of his earliest scores, the 2009 'score' for Ironclad, to find how utterly disappointing his work has been all the way throughout his career.<br><br>Balfe is a hack. He will never be considered a real composer. The industry knows Hans is pushing him and once that attention goes somewhere else, as it does with Hans frequently, Balfe will be immediately forgotten. Tell me - who actually wants a Lorne Balfe score for their film!!<br><br>You rapid fans supporting his work will be laughed at as being idiotic symbiotic followers. Get a fragging grip.<br><br>Balfe is not a composer. <br><br><br>This score is probably the largest failure of Zimmer's career - these would have been his objectives - think about it:<br><br>1. Enhancing the work of Vangelis for a project he has always admired.<br>2. The chance to work with an absolutely open palette of sounds<br>3. The opportunity to truly reinvent not only film music but MUSIC.<br>4. Ability to work with Denis Villeneuve, a man who gets scores nominated for the fact that they are innovative.<br><br>How did Hans fail here?<br><br>1. Wallfisch, a very fine composer is not a synth guy.<br><br>2. Hans does not give a shit anymore, seriously.<br><br>3. An imposed composer on a passion project rarely works<br><br>4. Johannson's work on Arrival is so beyond Zimmer's abilities that he had to go secure.This score is probably the largest failure of Zimmer's career - these would have been his objectives - think about it:<br><br>1. Enhancing the work of Vangelis for a project he has always admired.<br>2. The chance to work with an absolutely open palette of sounds<br>3. The opportunity to truly reinvent not only film music but MUSIC.<br>4. Ability to work with Denis Villeneuve, a man who gets scores nominated for the fact that they are innovative.<br><br>How did Hans fail here? <br><br>1. Wallfisch, a very fine composer is not a synth guy. <br><br>2. Hans does not give a shit anymore, seriously.<br><br>3. An imposed composer on a passion project rarely works<br><br>4. Johannson's work on Arrival is so beyond Zimmer's abilities that he had to go secure. <br><br><br>Dunkirk is a sound experiment and not a score. It is rather sad to see a fine composer like Benjamin Wallfisch deal with this nationalistic nonsense.
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Iron Man (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 106'55
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  1. Smoke Clears - Main Titles (0:53)
    Ramin Djawadi
  2. Newsreel - Stark History (1:13)
    DJ Boborobo
  3. Stark Introduction (0:27)
    Jack Urbont, John O'Brien, Rick Boston
  4. Casino (1:05)
    Jack Urbont, John O'Brien, Rick Boston
  5. Sex With Reporter (0:26)
    Jack Urbont, Ramin Djawadi, Ryeland Allison
  6. Lights Up (0:40)
    Ramin Djawadi, Hans Zimmer, Bobby Tahouri
  7. Birthday (0:28)
    Ramin Djawadi
  8. Stark Drives To Airport (0:43)
    Ramin Djawadi, Ryeland Allison
  9. Tarmac Afghanistan (0:30)
    Ramin Djawadi, Bobby Tahouri
  10. Missile Demonstration (0:50)
    Ramin Djawadi, Bobby Tahouri
  11. Heart Machine (0:36)
    Ramin Djawadi
  12. Demands (1:10)
    Ramin Djawadi
  13. Torture (1:59)
    Ramin Djawadi
  14. Getting Started (2:36)
    Ramin Djawadi, Hans Zimmer
  15. The Ring & The Diagram (1:51)
    Ramin Djawadi, Hans Zimmer
  16. Suspicions (1:08)
    Ramin Djawadi
  17. Raza (2:54)
    Ramin Djawadi
  18. Anvil (1:49)
    Ramin Djawadi
  19. Race To Finish (2:17)
    Ramin Djawadi
  20. Escape (5:02)
    Ramin Djawadi, Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  21. Rescue (2:10)
    Ramin Djawadi, Bobby Tahouri
  22. Cheesburger - Stark Arrives (0:56)
    Ramin Djawadi, Hans Zimmer, Bobby Tahouri
  23. Press Conference (0:52)
    Ramin Djawadi
  24. Heart Reveal (0:57)
    Ramin Djawadi
  25. Pepper Called To Lab (0:59)
    Ramin Djawadi
  26. Never Again (0:32)
    Ramin Djawadi
  27. Rhodie Hangar Speech (0:43)
    Ramin Djawadi, Bobby Tahouri
  28. Get Your Mind Right (0:19)
    Ramin Djawadi
  29. Keep Off The Server (0:46)
    Ramin Djawadi, Hans Zimmer
  30. Finding Iron Mask (0:50)
    Ramin Djawadi
  31. Test I (0:51)
    Ramin Djawadi
  32. Test II (1:01)
    Ramin Djawadi, Hans Zimmer
  33. Test Day Eleven (1:47)
    Ramin Djawadi
  34. First Flight (3:10)
    Ramin Djawadi, Hans Zimmer, Ryeland Allison
  35. Trophies (1:06)
    Ramin Djawadi
  36. Paint It Red - Drive To Benefit (1:15)
    Ramin Djawadi, Ryeland Allison
  37. Kiss (0:28)
    Ramin Djawadi
  38. A Town Called Gulmira (1:21)
    Ramin Djawadi
  39. Realization - Suiting Up (2:25)
    Ramin Djawadi
  40. Gulmira (1:38)
    Ramin Djawadi, Bobby Tahouri
  41. Targeting Weapons (2:08)
    Ramin Djawadi, Lorne Balfe
  42. Dog Fight (5:41)
    Ramin Djawadi, Hans Zimmer, Atli Örvarsson
  43. Obadiah Meets The Enemy (3:01)
    Ramin Djawadi
  44. Pepper Quits (2:03)
    Ramin Djawadi
  45. Pepper Steals Files (4:33)
    Ramin Djawadi, Clay Duncan, Bobby Tahouri
  46. Heart Removal (3:05)
    Ramin Djawadi
  47. Find Tony (1:12)
    Ramin Djawadi, Lorne Balfe
  48. Cardiac (0:46)
    Ramin Djawadi
  49. Monger Heart (1:48)
    Ramin Djawadi
  50. Rhodes Finds Stark (0:55)
    Ramin Djawadi, Lorne Balfe, Clay Duncan
  51. Rhodes In Lab (0:30)
    Ramin Djawadi
  52. Monger Attacks (5:55)
    Ramin Djawadi, Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  53. Rooftop (4:02)
    Ramin Djawadi, Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
  54. Sign Of Life (0:39)
    Ramin Djawadi
  55. Alibis (3:47)
    Ramin Djawadi, Atli Örvarsson
  56. End Titles (3:15)
    Ramin Djawadi, Hans Zimmer, Ryeland Allison
  57. Driving Montage (2:15)
    Ramin Djawadi, Ryelan Allison
  58. Test Montage (2:47)
    Ramin Djawadi, Hans Zimmer
  59. Lights Up (Alternate) (0:58)
    Ryeland Allison
  60. Never Again (Alternate) (0:32)
    Ramin Djawadi
  61. Targeting Weapons (Alternate) (1:00)
    Ramin Djawadi, Lorne Balfe
  62. Rooftop (Alternate) (3:56)
    Ramin Djawadi, Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
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Mike reply Replies: 8 || 2012-12-08 09:05:55
Whoa, Hans Zimmer did more than I thought. Cool! It's interesting how a lot of RCP scores are collaborative efforts.


Hybrid Soldier2012-12-08 09:10:17
Though HZ confirmed to me working on things like Armageddon or Transformers 2, he's never really admitted "working" on that one.

He's on the cue sheet but told me he "helped Ramin find his way" (meaning in this big mess).

So he probably never really sat down and took the keyboard to write anything, but was probably behind the guys giving ideas & where to go. ;)


Mike2012-12-08 09:13:22
I see. I really liked this score, though. They should've kept Ramin on for #2. The score to 2 was forgettable, in my opinion.


Edmund Meinerts2012-12-08 12:12:23
Personally I liked 2 a lot more than 1. There was a stronger balance between orchestral and electronic with Debney, and the Russian theme for Whiplash was just badass!

Granted I haven't heard this complete Iron Man 1, but from the OST I always thought it was a bit of a mess. Really simplistic and hardly any themes beyond DUN-DUN-DUN-DUN...DUN-DUN-DUN-DUN...DUN-DUN - which got old really fast. Djawadi definitely improved after this one.


Hybrid Soldier2012-12-08 12:26:39
Apart from the opening, there's nothing in Debney's score. Empty score for an empty film.

The first one is better in every way, and Iron Man had a THEME !


Edmund Meinerts2012-12-08 13:14:18
Debney did write a theme for Iron Man 2 ("I Am Iron Man", and it sounds a bit like Jerry Goldsmith's Total Recall), but for whatever reason it's hardly used in the rest of the score. Apparently that's not his fault, though, because the producers forced him not to use it (kind of the way the producers forced him not to write the first score at all...it's like they've got it out for him or something). Djawadi's theme (are you referring to the one heard in "Vacation's Over"?) is OK, but it's not much, and sounds a lot like TMNT by Klaus Badelt...

And what exactly do you mean by an "empty" score?


Anonymous2012-12-08 14:47:55
To @Hybridyou say Debney´s Score for Iron Man 2 is empty. So, this question here is: What Tha Fuck are you talking about? What the hell did you hear? I´m not saying Djawadi did bad job. Djawadi's Iron Man has good themes, but Debney's Iron Man 2 extend the sound Djawadi did in the first Iron Man. And has a better balance between Orchestral and Electronic and add Chorus.


Hybrid Soldier2012-12-08 14:58:52
I'm based on the (not really good) film, not the OST. Never heard it, never will. I've seen the film a couple of time, and I keep to my point.


Mike2012-12-09 03:02:51
I've actually not listened to either of the Iron Man scores by themselves, just with the movies. And judging from that I can say that I liked the score to #1 more.

dav reply Replies: 0 || 2011-03-15 00:00:00
merci

Skyler reply Replies: 0 || 2010-09-27 00:00:00
track two (Newsreel - Stark History) is actually DamnKid by DJ Boborobo

JohnF reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-31 00:00:00
The soundtrack sounds a hell of a lot better then the quality of the film tracks... you can tell more production went into the production of the soundtrack. Wish this had that quality....

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-31 00:00:00
In this version, you can hear all the nuances drowned out by sound sx in the theater. My particular favorite is "Dog Fight" by Atli Örvarsson; you'd never notice the variety of sounds in the theater or on DVD.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-31 00:00:00
Well, Bondo, you can explain that cause a part of the track is just cut in the film...


The last part of the cue is mainly... silence in the movie... :O


Same for Rescue or Monger Attacks... :S

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-31 00:00:00
I meants Escape, not Rescue, which is a great Bobby Tahouri arrangement... :P

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-31 00:00:00
Well that's unfortunate! Guess I'll have to re-watch the film now and sync up all the unused cues... =D

Falconet reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-30 00:00:00
It's a beautiful score!! 10/10

Enrico reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-30 00:00:00
This is a really BAD BAD BAD score...like most of Djawadi...Bleah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hale reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-30 00:00:00
I prefer seen complete scores like 'Revenge of the Fallen', 'Pirates' than this 'Iron Man' but it's already good.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-30 00:00:00
Others arleady is an Angels & Demons expanded/complete, but it's a rip w/ SFX. It's not that bad... 2 discs

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-30 00:00:00
It's not a DVD rip... :| ??

Yeah I put those credits...

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-30 00:00:00
By the way Hybrid! Did you gave credits to each tracks, who did what?

Levente reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-30 00:00:00
I still think this is a very good (probably one of the best) DVD rip.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-30 00:00:00
It's no the way it works, people ! ;)

Send a list to Santa !

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-30 00:00:00
I hope for an angels and demons complete/expanded, but time will tell :3

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-29 00:00:00
damn, I found this, cept without the last 5 tracks :/

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-29 00:00:00
So, is this score so good, that it deserves 10/10?

Hale reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-29 00:00:00
For me, that score values 7/10.
10/10 is just a proof of excitation to discover a complete score. :D

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-29 00:00:00
It's certainly better in chronological order as inteded! I overlooked this score when it first came out, but it gets better with repeated listens. The themes are more obvious in the new presentation; it's also interesting to hear who composed what

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-29 00:00:00
"10/10 is just a proof of excitation to discover a complete score."

Not really as I "discovered" this bootleg about 10 months ago... ;)


I put 10 cause I love it ! :P

Hale reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-29 00:00:00
Je te charrie Hybrid ;-)
Belle présentation avec celui qui a fait quoi.
Objectivement, il ne vaut tout de même pas la note suprême :
---Peu de thèmes(et très peu accrocheurs), forte répétitivité, manque d'originalité.
Néanmoins,
+++ Très punchy.

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-29 00:00:00
For me its 6/10, but I'm glad you like it Hybrid :)


Now Batman Begins Complete pls!

John reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-29 00:00:00
so you have brought those complete scores that are recently on the internet hybrid? :)
oh please, is there a chance for BATMAN BEGINS complete score too? Or The Thin Red Line (recording session) and lion king or last samurai??

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-29 00:00:00
or even a Hannibal complete score?
personally i look forward to a batman begins complete score though

Skyler reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-28 00:00:00
with specific credits too! awesome!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-27 00:00:00
awesome wish I had this

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-27 00:00:00
Here we are, people !

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