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I was honored, back in 2006, to meet both Nick Glennie-Smith and Harry Gregson-Williams.<br><br>I talked with both about The Rock, and here's what they told.<br><br>Nick & Hans worked very closely on most of their cues. That's why it's so hard to notice any difference between their own styles (and why they share most of the credits).<br>Harry worked separately from Nick & Hans. He remembered working on the San Francisco Chase (though we know Don Harper helped at some point in the process), and on "a lot of the action material from the second half of the movie, once the heroes reach Alcatraz".<br>The credits here tend to prove they were right.<br><br>All the Opening Titles / SEAL Attack is a bit complicated. Hans might have written the theme, but it also might be arranged for pictures by Nick Glennie-Smith (plus there's a lot more going on in these tracks than the man theme alone). So, well, I guess the final result still is a collaborative effort.A brilliant score, no matter what some people might say. Some of the darkest and most beautiful themes by Hans Zimmer were born here, as well as a lot of very exciting and propulsive electronic techniques. <br>Heck, I even like the movie! The score fits like a glove.<br>It helps that I'm a huge Tony Scott fan though.<br><br>Zimmer would even 'steal' from this score quite a bit in some of his later films. The 'Wayne Manor Suite' from TDKR comes to mind, as well as one of the Blade Runner 2049 themes being strangely similar to The Fan's 'Opening Titles' theme, and I'm sure there are other examples.<br><br>I would love for a complete version to be officially released sometime. It's very unlikely, but one can dream...Listen to the first demo at NGS demos album of "The Rock". The opening and SEAL Attack have a few notes from original NGS theme. That's why NGS is credited to it.I remember hearing something about NGS not wanting his name in the opening credits since it was a Hans cue playing. So yeah. I think the opening is really just Zimmer and the NGS credit is a formality since it was supposed to be Nick’s score.I'm sorry, disregard EVERYTHING I just wrote...The credit on "SEAL Attack" is HZ/NGS/Stern, not HZ/HGW/Stern. Not sure how I missed that. *facepalm*
OK, so a thought...<br><br>"Opening" and "SEAL Attack" are functionally identical; Hybrid says that Hans originally wrote it for the latter scene and it was then placed over the main titles of the film. However, the former is credited to Hans and NGS, the latter to Hans, HGW and Steven Stern. Presumably, since HGW/Stern aren't credited on "Opening", their contribution to "SEAL Attack" is limited to that first minute, which does indeed have a lot of HGW-ish percussion work to my ears. That leaves the rest of "SEAL Attack" as Hans' work alone, which begs the question: why the heck is NGS credited for "Opening", then, since it's basically identical? Screw it, I'm labeling that a solo Hans cue. Always bugged me that there wasn't at least one on this score. :pHi dear hans , i'm farzin a film composer from iran , i composed many films & tv series in my country also winning some awards and some of them are in IMDB , but music comunity is verry small here and i think i'm wasting my time & music here , its pleasure to be your assistant or working with you or anything you think i can be useful (sorry my english language is not good). please please just listen to one track of my music (i will send some for you if you reply me with email) and if it was qualified email me and let me know , also i have to travel to california this December cause my family lives there. i'm always thankful hans for your help & attention. Email : farzingharahgozloo@yahoo.comHi dear hans , i'm farzin a film composer from iran , i composed many films & tv series in my country also winning some awards and some of them are in IMDB , but music comunity is verry small here and i think i'm wasting my time & music here , its pleasure to be your assistant or working with you or anything you think i can be useful (sorry my english language is not good). please please just listen to one track of my music (i will send some for you if you reply me with email) and if it was qualified email me and let me know , also i have to travel to california this December cause my family lives there. i'm always thankful hans for your help & attention. Email : farzingharahgozloo@yahoo.comThat's the 'Album Version' of Time To Suit UpI'm "missing" three of the tracks for the complete score - CA Suite, WS Suite, and the alternate version of Time to Suit Up. <br><br>It looks like the CA and WS suites are pretty much the same ones on the official release as the lengths match up perfectly, but where can I find the alternate of Suit Up?
Cheers mateI agree. Great score. This is "Hans Zimmer Dark Minimalism" done absolutely right. And the Oscorp stuff has to be temp. It goes up and down in just the right places.Forgot Macrotus, so the numbering messed up on 5-8 lol... Macrotus = Father to the Rescue + Hide in the Dark + Courthouse Pt. 1... Also, Myotis actually = Initiation into the League + Temple Fight. <br><br>If you have the End Credits too, that's a Batman Arrives/Backup mashup + Training + Father to the Rescue + Bruce Left for Dead + Batman Theme.<br>Gotcha covered. <br><br>1. Vespertilio = Batman Titles + The Long Walk<br>2. Eptesicus = Bruce Goes Home + Training <br>3. Myotis = Temple Fight<br>4. Barbastella = Mugging Pt. 2 + Bat Cave <br>6. Artibeus = Dockyard Ambush Pt. 1 + Meeting Ducard<br>7. Tadarida = Rachel in the Bat Cave + Fight in Crane's Lab Pt. 1 + Batman on Fire + Microwave Stolen<br>8. Antrozus = Facing the League + Gordon at Home <br>9. Nycteris = Prototypes + Why Bats? + Finders Keepers Pt. 1<br>10. Molossus = Batmobile Chase<br>11. Corynorhinus = Surveying the Ruins + Gordon Says Thanks <br>12. Lasiurus = Ra's al Ghul theme suite<br>Any chance you could do a what makes up the tracks for the BB album Hybrid?
Just want to give this score (and film) some major props. It seems like Ron Howard is one of those great directors who brings the best out of the composers he works with. It’s also interesting hearing just how much Lorne Balfe’s voice really comes through here.<br><br>Also, I wonder if it’s a coincidence just how much the OSCORP tune from TASM2 sounds like “Watergate Montage” (or did Marc Webb like a temp lol)Yeah, that theme starting at 1:35 is totally Black Rain! I love it though.So is nobody going to point out that Hans just casually slipped a theme from Black Rain into the middle of "Millennium Theme"...like, note for note? :pI hope there will be an album for Angel Has Fallen by 	David Buckley.PM me on YouTube for further questions.
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The Simpsons Movie (Complete Score)
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  1. 1m02v3 (0:32)
  2. 1m03-04v4 (0:24)
  3. 1m05v2 (0:20)
  4. 1m06v11 (0:30)
  5. 1m07s - Green Day Theme (1:24)
  6. 1m03s v2 (0:15)
  7. 1m09s - American Idiot Funeral Version (0:46)
  8. 1m10sv04 c13 (0:20)
  9. 1m11-12v17 (1:11)
  10. 1m13v8.10 (0:38)
  11. 2m14-15v2 (0:54)
  12. 2m16v5.1 ALT (0:31)
  13. 2m18v5.1 (0:50)
  14. 2m19v8FIX (1:11)
  15. 2m20-23v5 (0:47)
  16. 2m21s - Turtles Happy Together (2:57)
  17. 3m24v4.6 (1:21)
  18. 3m26v3 (0:32)
  19. 3m28v3 (0:15)
  20. 3m29v5 (0:24)
  21. 3m30s Town Hall Guitar (0:17)
  22. 3m32 w Whistling (0:19)
  23. 3m33v1 (0:09)
  24. 4m34v1 (0:27)
  25. 4m35v10.0 (1:28)
  26. 4m36v13 (0:27)
  27. 4m37v20 (1:26)
  28. 4m38v3 (0:18)
  29. 4m39v16 (0:48)
  30. 5m40x v3.1 (0:07)
  31. 5m42v3 (0:31)
  32. 5m44v1 (0:08)
  33. 5m46v5 (4:30)
  34. 5m49-50v15 (0:59)
  35. 6m51v2 (0:24)
  36. 6m52v5 (1:29)
  37. 6m53v2 (0:22)
  38. 6m54s Carousel Ride (1:16)
  39. 6m55-56v5 (0:54)
  40. 6m57-58v10 (1:08)
  41. 6m59-60v6 (1:06)
  42. 7m61v6.2 (1:03)
  43. 7m62-63v13 (1:40)
  44. 7m64s Grand Canyon AD (1:44)
  45. 7m66v3.1 (0:51)
  46. 7m67as v4 (0:24)
  47. 7m67bs v1 (0:06)
  48. 7m68v1.2 (0:42)
  49. 7m69s - Carpenter Close To You (3:42)
  50. 7m70v1.2 (0:31)
  51. 8m72-73v6 (2:22)
  52. Spiderpig v1.7 (1:06)
  53. 8m74v3.1 (0:36)
  54. 8m75-76v3 (0:35)
  55. 8m78v1.6 (0:25)
  56. 8m79s Sax (0:16)
  57. 8m80v5 (0:56)
  58. 8m81v3.1 (0:07)
  59. 8m82v1.2 (0:15)
  60. 8m83v2 (0:34)
  61. 9m84-86v1.10 (0:36)
  62. 9m85s Harmonica v3 Dry (0:07)
  63. Untitled Track 18 (0:51)
  64. 9m87-89v6 (1:39)
  65. 9m90v91v.1.8 (0:48)
  66. 9m92v1.14 (2:28)
  67. 10m93v7 (0:41)
  68. 10m93v8 (0:43)
  69. 10m94v3 (1:51)
  70. Homer v3 (5:08)
  71. Giddyup v1.1 (3:08)
  72. Theme v2.0 (4:57)
  73. Springfield Anthem (Cast) (0:40)
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mpolonest123 reply Replies: 2 || 2018-08-11 20:20:24
This might be one of the FEW rare instances where the album is actually better than the complete score. While I get that the film needed shorter cues to coincide with the comedic timing/pacing it’s still frustrating to see suite ideas completely shortchanged. “Giddyup” in particular...
In film the score does work very well though.


Edmund Meinerts2018-08-12 14:13:49
Yeah it's weird how little overlap there is between the complete score and the album. I think over half of the music on the album didn't end up in the movie, at least not verbatim. I agree it makes for a much better listen, although in my version I've added a few of the better/more substantial cues from the complete score (like the cool Angels & Demons-style "Church Prophecy"/1m11-12v17, which I'm almost positive is an Atli Örvarsson contribution).


mpolonest1232018-08-12 20:08:05
I think a big part of it is that half of the cues written for the film are 30 seconds or less (or even 10 seconds in some cases). It’s almost impossible to have thematic development when you are constrained like that, so I do understand. Still, it’s hilarious hearing Zimmer give the Simpsons theme “Lion King” treatment in the main theme suite, shame that wasn’t used at all in film.

As far as the shorter cues go though, the Church Prophecy is pretty cool, and I personally love the Green Day organ cues. That was genius on whoever’s part decided to do it...

vced reply Replies: 9 || 2015-04-19 20:49:37
Great score. But its a pity the credited composer wrote almost none of it.

I know it's a tired debate, but I don't know how people here are so comfortable with the fact he takes full compositional credit for scores like this, Madagascars etc.

Scores like this you can't even earnestly say he wrote the themes like with Pirates. At least there the core of the material is coming from him. Here, the giddy up theme is Lorne, the villain theme and Homer suite are Jackman, the Lisa theme is Alti, etc. etc. Even the main theme arrangement isn't his.

I know due to his limitations, he needs others to arrange the complex, intricate Powell-esque stuff for him, that's not the problem. Those aren't his strengths, it's not a big deal. Hans is good at what he's good at, simple melodies and interesting sound-scapes. He's also good at organising his talent. The problem is all the material is labelled as *his*. It's gotten better recently, and I know in most scores he doesn't write as little as this one, but it still bugs me.


Hybrid Soldier2015-04-19 20:53:59
Well if you take the cue sheet every composer is credited for every cue on this score...

The name on the film credit is a contract.


I know composers who don't write their scores, and the co-composers don't get 1 cent of royalies...


Zimson2015-04-19 22:59:11
Exactly, ghostwriting is very common in the industry. At least his collaborators get credited here.

"Hans is good at what he's good at, simple melodies and interesting sound-scapes."

You're making it seem as if he was some sort of second rate composer, probably unintentionally, but let's not forget that he wrote Gladiator, Lion King and Prince of Egypt almost all on his own and those are considered film score classics. The first one even made it's way into many contemporary classical selections.

It's true that he took a step back in the 2000s focusing more on his role as a producer and this one is probably the prime example. However, his theme suites, especially for potc, are already a very good representation of the score's memorable parts and I'm sure the result wouldn't be very different if he did everything by himself.

And what exactly do mean by "his limitations"? You seem pretty new to Zimmer's music. He can do Powell as well if necessary as shown in Kung Fu Panda 2.


Hybrid Soldier2015-04-19 23:13:32
Don't think Hans can't do anything and needs people to do so... I think it was valid 25 years ago when Shirley Walker was orchestrating & arranging his scores...

But now, not really, he can do anything... He doesn't use add. composer because he HAS to, but because he wants to. Most of the times he starts the cues, gives direction and leads his guys where he wants them to go, and always has the final say...

I'll take an example, Rush... If you check the cuesheet, it's quite a mess, you basically have 0 cue with Hans alone... And yet he wrote most the themes to picture this time, with Ron Howard & Peter Morgan in the room. No theme suites... Then the guys just arranged slightly & added stuff... But a lot of the cues are him in the first place...


Edmund Meinerts2015-04-19 23:14:36
Except that was Powell himself doing Powell in KFP 2 (well, Powell and Palfe). ;)


NM2015-04-20 00:11:30
Palfe? haha... btw Edmund, do you still think "More Cannons" is Powell. I'm pretty sure I hear bits of it in Lorne's (excellent, btw) "Home" score!


Edmund Meinerts2015-04-20 00:35:44
"More Cannons" is Bowell/Palfe. What the weighting is, I don't know, though I'd be inclined to think something like 70-30. Bits of Home sounding like it isn't all that convincing an argument, since a composer doesn't need only to rip off his own repertoire ;) I'm more convinced by the Megamind similarity towards the end of that track.


isildur2015-04-20 22:59:38
"I know due to his limitations, he needs others to arrange the complex, intricate Powell-esque stuff for him"

LOL. How funny is this statement. Just can't stop laughing. Ignorance is bliss.


Leo2015-04-21 02:29:38
>I know composers who don't write their scores, and the co-composers don't get 1 cent of royalies...

Now you got me curious...


JamesT2015-04-21 04:43:13
@vced:
"The problem is all the material is labelled as *his*. It's gotten better recently, and I know in most scores he doesn't write as little as this one, but it still bugs me."

Interesting you impress upon this point with this score. Conversely, like Hybrid cites, a contract is a contract. Let us not pretend that Hans kicks and shoves his collaborators -- writers, arrangers, etc -- into a closet never to be mentioned or heard from again. Essentially everything he does is a collaboration, and credited so appropriately, minus an example or so by my observations.

I don't criticize Harry or Powell every time the liner notes from a score don't specifically praise Hans.

Who knows @ the dynamics, influence, inspiration, success of a given cue? Those that work on it. From the idea, to the last note.




rEne. reply Replies: 0 || 2012-09-13 23:12:42
The Simpsons Movie - Complete Score Tracklist ;-
CD 1

01. Moon Landing (0:32)
02. Itchy the Hero (0:24)
03. An Accidental Launch (0:20)
04. Simpsons Theme (0:30)
05. Simpsons Green Day Theme (1:24)
06. Source Cue (0:15)
07. American Idiot Funeral Version (0:46)
08. Church Organ Source (0:20)
09. Church Prophecy (1:11)
10. Homers Chores (0:38)
11. Lisa Goes Door to Door (0:54)
12. Lisa and Colin (0:31)
13. Bart Skates (0:50)
14. Bart Humiliated (1:11)
15. A Twisted Tail (0:47)
16. Turtles Happy Together (2:57)
17. Thats What Snug Is (1:21)
18. Marge Cleans (0:32)
19. Fishing with Flanders (0:15)
20. The Lake (0:24)
21. Town Hall Guitar (0:17)
22. Town Cleanup (0:19)
23. Simpson Home (0:09)
24. Pig Crap (0:27)
25. Homer Takes A Dump (1:28)
26. EPA Arrive (0:27)
27. Operation Dome Drop (1:26)
28. Town Gathers (0:18)
29. Trapped Like Carrots (0:48)
30. Trappuccino Source (0:07)
31. Maggie Outside (0:31)
32. Sandbox (0:08)
33. Lynch Mob (4:30)
34. Outside the Dome (0:59)

CD 2

01. EPA Helicopter (0:24)
02. Homers Solution (1:29)
03. Believe In America (0:22)
04. Carousel Ride (1:16)
05. Homer Speeds Up (0:54)
06. Gas Station (1:08)
07. Alaska (1:06)
08. Homer and Marge (1:03)
09. Town Panics (1:40)
10. Grand Canyon AD (1:44)
11. One Choice (0:51)
12. Grand Theft Walrus Source (0:24)
13. Game Over Source (0:06)
14. Marge and the Kids Leave (0:42)
15. Carpenter Close to You (3:42)
16. Homer Out Cold (0:31)
17. Homers Epiphany (2:22)
18. Spiderpig (1:06)
19. Giddyup (0:36)
20. Must Keep Going-Boob Lady (0:35)
21. Homer Sees Dome (0:25)
22. Lisa Saxophone Source (0:16)
23. Wrecking Ball (0:56)
24. Town in Ruins (0:07)
25. Emperor Moe (0:15)
26. Operation Soaring Eagle (0:34)
27. Homer Climbs the Dome (0:36)
28. Harmonica Source (0:07)
29. Supply Shed-Tricked By An Idiot (0:51)
30. Bart Goes to Church (1:39)
31. Epiphany Tree (0:48)
32. Nice Knowing You Homer (2:28)
33. Cargill Ver. 1 (0:41)
34. Cargill Ver. 2 (0:43)
35. A Happy Ending (1:51)
36. Homer Suite (5:08)
37. Giddyup Suite (3:08)
38. Theme Suite (4:57)
39. Springfield Anthem (Cast) (0:40)

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-20 00:00:00
Ya ok, 1m11-12 Chruch Prophecy definitely belongs with Angels & Demons. I've heard it in the trailer. And you can hear the themes in there.

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-25 00:00:00
@Prott,

Very interesting, didn't even notice that one. It sounds like it belongs in Angels & Demons

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-24 00:00:00
1m11-12v17
Source cue for Angels & Demons? :-)

Skyler reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-28 00:00:00
I didn't realize until listening to this complete version just how much music there is on the commercial release that *wasn't* in the film.

Mikel Siw (a fan from Spain) reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-28 00:00:00
Im sure this edition is very cool!! I love the music of the official release. Nice!!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-28 00:00:00
What, spending hours to create pages for this site ? Yeah that'd be me !!! :D

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-28 00:00:00
is this your doing, hybrid soldier?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2010-08-27 00:00:00
And here we are (again) !

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