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I'm surprised no one is talking about this one, its one of Rupert's best scores imo.Lately I have been listening to the album carefully, and the truth is that I did not quite understand why Hans did not just use a big orchestra instead of the synthesizer.It would have really been interesting to see Ritcher scoring a chase on the photo, although without a doubt his work would not have been anything generic.Richter is a conceptual artist, I love his Leftovers score, but come one, scoring to picture ?<br><br>He writes pieces that are used in scenes, not the other way around...<br><br>Richter scoring a moon buggy chase ? Hell no... lol you could see from day one it was gonna be replaced...^ Yeah the edit floating around matches Felix’s almost to a T. Only major difference is <br><br>“Our Final Stand - Showdown - United Greece - Finale”<br><br>Which is broken up into four separate cues. Realistically you could edit it anyway you want if you prefer the smaller cues. Personally, I like the long suite-like format of this release. Kinda like the album release for “Event Horizon” lol.
I hope they at least release Richter's score.My Edit:<br><br>01. Rise Of An Empire - Marathon - King Darius - Artemisia - Man To God - War (13:36)<br>= <br><br>M1A Rise of An Empire (09:48)<br>M1B From Man to God King (03:44)<br><br>02. Greek Council - Persian War Plan - Spartan Fight Training - Greek Conversation - Your Commander Is Greek (10:47) <br>=<br><br>M2 Greek Council (03:39)<br>M3 Greek Conversation (07:06)<br><br>05. Suicide - General Bandari - Circle Battle (7:30) <br>=<br><br>M6 Suicide/General Bandari (02:10)<br>M7 Circle Battle (05:16)<br><br>06. Sex - Fire Battle (12:04) <br>=<br><br>M10 Sex (05:36)<br>M11 Fire Battle (06:21)<br><br>11. Our Final Stand - Showdown - United Greece - Finale (16:08) <br>=<br><br>M15-17A Our Final Stand/Showdown Pt.1 (08:19)<br>M17B-19 Showdown Pt.2/Finale (07:37)I'm not really interested in Balfe's part of work, but it would be a big disappointment if Richter's work wouldn't released.<br><br>But I think there's a good chance that movie (and music in particular) get an Oscar nominations, so let's just hope for the best.@mpolonest123 any idea how to break up the really long cues on the complete? it’s a lot of tracks that are made up of several cuesArtemisia Suite = History of Artemisia <br>Greek Action Suite = Marathon <br>Xerxes Rebirth Suite = From Man to God King<br>Greek Sacrifice Suite = ???<br>Artemisia’s Childhood Suite = Artemisia’s Childhood<br>Greek Attack Suite = Greeks on Attack<br>Queen Gorgo Suite = Queen Gorgo<br>Xerxes Thoughts Suite = Xerxes Thoughts<br>Greek History Suite = History of the Greeks<br>Greek Victory Suite = Greeks Are Winning<br><br>Hope this helps! :-)
Hybrid can you tell us what album cues are the suites ?!well, from what Lorne wrote on Twitter, it should be releasedCool thanks for getting back! I am still a little bit confused though. Do any Basil Poledouris cues go somewhere in that list? It’s been a very very long time since I have seen the film.The Hans cues used are :<br><br>1M1 OPENING CREDITS / MAIN TITLE (USED FROM 2:18 TO 3:03)<br>1M2 GOLDEN STAIRCASE (USED FROM 0:00 TO 1:56)<br>2M2 JACK SEES WOLVES<br>2M3 BLACK WOLF<br>2M6 THE TREK CONTINUES (USED FROM 0:28 TO 1:15)<br>3M1 THIN ICE<br>3M2 SKUNKER'S DEATH<br>3M3 FULL MOON WOLF ATTACK<br>3M3A MORNING WOLF ATTACK<br>6M4 THE BEAR<br>6M4A THE BEAR ATTACK<br>7M3 IN THE STABLE<br>7M5 WHITE FANG FIGHTS SATAN<br>8M1 FIGHT MONTAGE (FIRST HALF USED)<br>8M3 PIT FIGHT (FINAL 20 SEC USED)<br><br>All the rest, by definition, is Basil's score...Hey hybrid soldier! You mentioned on the ghost in the shell page about white fang so I came here! Can you give us a list of the cues as they appear in the film please? The Basil Poledouris cues and the Hans Zimmer cues please
I imagined it ... hopefully this time Max Ritcher does not give him a lollipop and refuses to launch his musicYes Unbreakable.
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<br>Exactly like White Fang. Have Poledouris write a score, then HZ do another, then pick what you want from both.
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<br>Ghost In The Shell was kinda different...In the credits of the movie, Max Ritcher appears as the Main Composer, meanwhile, Lorne appears as Additional MusicI find that it would be best to accredit both and launch the two soundtracks and all happy.Hybrid implies that Max Ritcher's score was rejected, and that Lorne made a new one and in the end, the best of both has been used.  I am right?
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Rain Man (Score)
Label: Notefornote Music
Length: 45:23
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  1. Drive From The Country (1:25)
  2. Empty House - Charlies Memories (1:23)
  3. Drive To The Bank And Wallbrook (1:26)
  4. Leaving Wallbrook (1:43)
  5. Traffic Accident And Aftermath (4:05)
  6. Train Crossing - Walk Dont Run - Farmhouse (2:53)
  7. Putting Ray To Bed (2:15)
  8. On The Road (1:24)
  9. Las Vegas (7:01)
  10. Charlie Tries To Hug Raymond (1:05)
  11. Smoke Alarm - Freaked - Baby Burn (1:27)
  12. Pancakes - My Main Man (2:42)
  13. Train Station Goodbye (1:59)
  14. End Credits (3:19)
  15. Leaving Wallbrook - On The Road (2:53) (Bonus Track)
  16. Las Vegas - End Credits (8:21) (Bonus Track)
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Scorefan reply Replies: 1 || 2019-08-31 03:54:56
The NoteforNote Version had the Bonus Tracks
On the Road (Wild Panpipes) (1:16)
Las Vegas (Wild Vocals & Percussion) (1:11) from the Perseverance version? Thanks


Hybrid Soldier2019-08-31 10:01:36
Nope.

JD reply Replies: 1 || 2018-04-03 13:55:40
Are you saying Gergeli suplied you a bootleg tape? Fine, let's hear the evidence now please - otherwise we might look at who you are and start to inspect a court case for defamation. I hope you have proof and we don't have to make you go to jail for perjury.


Edmund Meinerts2018-04-03 15:45:35
Perjury? I didn't know that posting on HZ.com was tantamount to swearing yourself in, or did I miss something in the fine print?

JD reply Replies: 4 || 2018-04-01 09:24:24
Notefornote is issuing a 1,000 CD limited edition of the score. They posted a clip on their facebook page showing an example of the quality of the sound.



Hybrid Soldier2018-04-01 13:00:17
Yeah, in fact I couldn't wait to get rid of that old horrible Perseverance CD... That new one will be ok.


Oscarilbo2018-04-02 16:05:16
Thanks for the heads up! It sounds freakin-tastic compared to the Perseverance release! that buying experience left a pretty bad taste in my mouth!


Oscarilbo2018-04-02 20:30:56
Ordered!
I now wonder how did they found a better source ?
Or should I ask, how in the hell did Perseverance got that awful source ?


Jack Sparrow2018-04-03 02:32:41
I can say that the source for the Perseverance release came from that fella Robin hired to produce it, Gergely? I once spoke to somebody about this and he told me that the source was a tape that may or may not have contained MP3 files.

I spoke to Robin about this years later. He shrugs and argues he couldn't have canceled the release so he released it. The new album from Note for Note is explained by Ford on FSM. It's tapes and a real digital source. Seems from listening to the samples its light years better. Deeper sound, definition. If anybody is to blame for the previous release it's that guy Gergely.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2018-03-27 19:16:49
I miss this kind of music which compsed by hans ...

mittens reply Replies: 1 || 2018-01-13 22:36:31
The quality is so bad! So bad! Dear God! Looks like they downloaded the bootleg version and made from it this cd. Is that even legal??


Mandarin2018-01-14 11:04:42
Cry from the heart :D

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2010-09-07 00:00:00
Yes it's confirmed... ;)


Yumbo2013-12-23 23:28:11
It just made it it iTunes. Quality is better than the bootleg.


al bundy2013-12-24 15:52:53
it's even better on CD in lossless quality, than itunes compressed sh*t.

Stalker reply Replies: 0 || 2011-01-15 00:00:00
Nicolai ...You negative person first over at Intrada, then FSM and now here...sad indeed

Evers reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-15 00:00:00
I agree with Nicolai... The sound quality is very, very bad.

Disappointing in spite of the beauty of the score...

Nicolai reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-12 00:00:00
it is a total shame this score found its way to an official release.
The SOUND quality is not even near at, what you usally expect from LIMITED EDTION official releases now-a-days.

@ adrian,
yes... it is way cooler to have an official album than a boot. But still I am so sad/upset that no real effort was put in to do a real good remaster of the score.

Instead the folks behind this release, excuses in the liner notes:
"This album was transferred from really crappy analog files. Although every effort was made to reduce anomalies inherent in these files, such as tape hiss or warble, some still persist."
Hey... WTF... if you don't have the right master-material, don't do a release then!!!

I'll stick with my 2 HZ tracks from the CAPITOL RECORDS release, whenever I am in the mood to listen to the awesome oscar nominated score for Rain Man.

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-11 00:00:00
@ Cloud,

That's a shame... Rain Man deserved a good score!
But now you have an original disc with a booklet ;-) Thats cooler than a boot.
I wonder why Zimmer did not want to participate or even be consulted.

Well, I still want to buy it, as soon amazon releases it!

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-10 00:00:00
@ Cloud,

So how does Rain Man sound? Is it like the End Credits that is on the OST disc? Or worse?

And has it more material than the bootleg around?

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-10 00:00:00
@ Per : How can you "pretty much guarantee" the quality of the sound: You haven't heard it yet. And by the way: either there is a guaranty or there is no guaranty. There is no such thing as a "pretty much guaranty" ;)

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-10 00:00:00
I haven't received my copy of the CD yet, but I can pretty much guarantee you it's not even close to the quality of the 2 tracks on the old Capitol soundtrack release. Unfortunately.

As for the content on the CD, it's basically the same as the "bootleg", minus the other mix of the Smoke Alarm cue. I'm not sure which of the two are included on the CD though. (And one cue seem to be splitted in two tracks (or it was originally 2 cues...))

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-10 00:00:00
The sound quality is pretty much the same as on the bootleg, which is absolutely terrible for an official release. It seems they upped the bass and volume a bit, but I can't really tell the difference between this and the boot. I thought the quality would be better, to be honest. Alas, a huge disappointment.

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-09 00:00:00
So I received my copy today and guess what's written on the back of the booklet: "This album was transferred from really crappy analog files. Although every effort was made to reduce anomalies inherent in these files, such as tape hiss or warble, some still persist." :D

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-07 00:00:00
well, then they deserve that people hunt for vootlegs then when they dont co-opperate...
Shame on Remote Control!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-06 00:00:00
@Trent Easton Navarro
-1

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-05 00:00:00
That is a shame that they refused to participate...

Andrew reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-30 00:00:00
Apparently they tried, but Hans and his studio were not interested in participating.

Kaya reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-30 00:00:00
From what I understood no one ever talked to Hans about it anyway. They were going forward with the release and he didn't even know about it.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-28 00:00:00
@Trent Easton Navarro
+1

MK reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-20 00:00:00
Very nice! Ordered!!

Trent Easton Navarro reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-19 00:00:00
Ah, the good old days when Zimmer was still creative and didn't rely on 200 ghost writers... Looking forward to this one.

Mikel Siw (a fan from Spain) reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-19 00:00:00
Just edition for a great piece. Rain Man is brilliant!! ZIMMER is brilliant!!!!!!

Jon reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-18 00:00:00
This is awesome! The first score of Zimmer that gets the special treatment. I love it!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-18 00:00:00
I wouldn't judge the sound quality by the website samples... I think if the sound was at all inferior they would have said so on the website so anyone who ordered would be aware.

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-18 00:00:00
I'd say there's like 4 themes or sub-themes in Rain Man, Ele ! :)

Per reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-18 00:00:00
Well, it's the complete score, more or less, as heard in the film anyway.

Unfortunately, due to Zimmer & co (according to Robin Esterhammer (Perseverance Records) in the FSM forum) "flat out refused" to work with them on the project, they only "...had access to a safety copy of the recording sessions.", meaning it doesn't have as good quality as it could, and should, have !

I would assume this to be from the same, or a very similar, source as the old unreleased (or 'bootleg' if you will) is from. I haven't heard the whole CD yet, of course, so this is based solely on the few samples available for listen.

I fear this might be the "guideline" of other older score Zimmer releases in the future too; A label manage to do a deal to release a score, but then no great source of the score is to be found, and only excists in the composer's hands, but he refuses to help, and it ends with them using a not-so-great backup tape copy of the score located on some desk someplace, or nothing is to be found, and the release won't happen at all :(

Would not surprise me if the Zimmer - "popularity" goes down a little after this ... it certainly did for me ! (Don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about this release causing the Zimmer-popularity to drop, but the fact that he refuses to even help out on getting his older scores released.)

Nevertheless, a big thanks to Perseverance Records for doing this release. Remember, only 2000 copies available, so don't wait too long before you buy it ! :)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-17 00:00:00
That's it guys !! :D

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