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Extremely pleased with the release, remastering, and liner booklet notes. Nice to finally have all of this music. Sure, some things could have been done differently, like anything else. I'll be enjoying a thorough listen this weekend, and may watch the film again, as it's been years.The Thin Red Line >> The New World....Good for you?I don't like Hans Zimmer, James Horner is my favorite.Uhh, I don't electronic music ain't gonna work on Alita Battle Angel.
Jasha just released a neat little piano album!<br>Go check it out: https://itunes.apple .com/no/album/time-lapse-ep/1452867752My only real gripes left with the score is the somewhat uninspired choral writing (and the fact that the choir sounds like samples in a lot of moments) and the reused percussion samples from every JXL action score ever since Mad Max.After repeated listens of the score and seeing the film 3 times, I'd say now that the score is MUCH better than I initially gave it credit for.<br>Alita's theme (the 4 notes first heard at 1:53 in A Discovery) is used many times throughout the score in many instrumental varieties and variations, and used to great effect in emotional scenes<br>(I Don't Even Know My Own Name, What's Your Dream?, In Time You'll Remember, With Me, I'd Give You My Heart, What Did You Do), In the Clouds especially)<br>And do yourself a favor and get I See Church from somewhere, it's the 2nd best action track of the score after Motorball.<br>--------------------<br>In short, I would now give it a 4.5 / 5 from my previous 3 / 5Hybrid, what's the story with Finale vs. Safe Now? On this page Finale is listed as Jackman and Zimmer. On the OST page, it's Jackman, Zimmer, & Jasha Klebe. The two versions are different too. Finale has a longer intro and a big outro that makes the Time thing even more obvious. So are they two different tracks with different credits, or is Safe Now just Finale clipped short?Oh man, that's a tough question...I haven't listened to Curse of the Black Pearl in a while.... He's credited on almost every track for themes used... "Fog Bound" is the big Klaus Badelt cue from that movie (the real, 5-minute one in the movie is pretty much all Klaus I believe). <br><br>But Hans appears almost everywhere in POTC 1. Sometimes it's arrangements of his themes by the other guys, sometimes it's parts of the tunes that he wrote put directly in like he wrote them... The following scenes are pretty much directly Hans, if I remember right (this is the list I'm referencing — but as you can see, Zimmer's name is almost everywhere hans-zimmer . com/index.php?rub=disco&id=1128): <br><br>3. Captain Jack Sparrow (Hans wrote the big theme here, as well as the Jack Sparrow stuff at the end)<br>8. Breaking the Chains (more Jack Sparrow theme...) <br>17. Boarding the Dauntless (Jack Sparrow theme...)<br>24. Moonlight Serenade (Zimmer said he wrote this scene like Cinderella walking into a Metallica concert)<br> <br>Aaaaand a lot of the final fighting music is lifted directly out of the suite Zimmer wrote, so it's 90% him. But once again, his themes as arranged by other people appear everywhere. Hybrid can answer way more about all this than I can.<br>
Oh wow! That’s all really interesting. So how much of the OST is really HAnS Zimmer then???Hans was composing The Last Samurai while the first POTC was being made. He had promised Tom Cruise and Edward Zwick (might have even signed a contract) that he would only work on The Last Samurai and no other movies at that time. So while Hans agreed to write the POTC themes for Gore Verbinski, he wasn't allowed to be credited due to his obligations to the Last Samurai. So he wrote a few themes and then handed the score off to Klaus Badelt, who got the "name" credit on the score. But the whole score is really Klaus, Geoff Zanelli, Nick Glennie Smith, Ramin Djawadi, and a few others doing arrangements of the theme that Hans wrote (and Hans writing for a couple scenes incognito, like when Elizabeth first sees the skeleton pirates). Then Klaus did do the dark "Fog Bound/Underwater March" tune, as mentioned.Can’t insult me! I am genuinely curious. What’s this about The Last Samurai???I'm not saying this to insult David, but it's funny to me that even now, 16 years later, after so many clarifications from HZ and others, people still get confused because of the way POTC 1 got credited. All because Hans had to work on The Last Samurai (which is one of my favorite scores of his, so I guess it was worth the confusion).Saw the film last sunday and loved it. Also loved what Tom Holkenborg did hear. It did not felt nor 300. RoE nor Mad MAx. It's something else and loved it how it worked in context.
he is working on the new Terminator movie?! :OCredits for Dua Lipa's single "Swan Song" for the movie:<br>Written by Dua Lipa, Justin Tranter, Kennedi Lykken, Mattias Larsson, Robin Fredriksson & Tom Holkenborg<br>Produced by Mattman & RobinMy definition of a Complete score is somewhat different. My goal is to find and mix everything you hear in the movie. Some things you find, others you don't. That's always an adventure in itself.<br><br>The source cues are not hard to find, sometimes it can be tricky to find the right performance/conductor.<br><br>In the case of TTRL, it's mostly the Beam cues that are difficult to find. Francesco Lupica wrote several pieces of Beam cues specifically for the movie, 5 of them which were used. There's also the 'Concerto for Beam' written by Powell, and there's the 'Sit back & Relax' album that was used. So to me, that's a pretty substantial (and important!) amount of music that made it into the cut, which hardly anyone ever talks about.<br><br>Anyway, maybe a future project will tackle most of these issues.So he's scoring that and the new terminator? Damn dude's getting as busy as Henry JackmanUnless they're composed by Zimmer or someone else from RCP, I wouldn't expect source cues to appear here. And there's like two tracks with Beam in the title listed, so what else would have that name?
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Fair Game
Label: Lakeshore Records
Length: 40'11
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  1. Kuala Lumpur (1:40)
  2. The White House (2:22)
  3. Gathering Intel (3:04)
  4. Joe's Report (3:57)
  5. Bruises (1:37)
  6. Smaky (1:00)
  7. Sixteen Words (2:59)
  8. Run Up To War (2:55)
  9. Change the Story (3:08)
  10. Uncomfortable Love (6:04)
  11. Breaking Point (3:58)
  12. Ready To Fight (2:55)
  13. Testify (4:32)
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Manuel reply Replies: 4 || 2011-10-02 05:43:41
FAIR GAME COMPLETE SCORE

01 FG_1m10v_Bruises
02 FG_1m11a_Gathering_Intel
03 FG_1m11v_Late_Night
04 FG_1m12v_To_Clearance
05 FG_1m13v_To_Niger
06 FG_1m3v1_Kuala_Lumpur
07 FG_1m6v1_You_Have_No_Idea
08 FG_1m7av_Passport
09 FG_2m18v_Report_From_Niger
10 FG_2m19v_Cairo
11 FG_2m20v_Who_Are_You
12 FG_2m23v_All_The_Vps_Men
13 FG_2m24v_Dr_Hassan
14 FG_2m25v_They_Are_Back
15 FG_2m29v_Amman
16 FG_3m30v_Coordinated_Leak
17 FG_3m32v_Baghdad_Arrival
18 FG_3m33v_Run_Up_To_War
19 FG_3m34v_Sixteen_Words
20 FG_3m35v_We_Wont_Let_You_Down
21 FG_4m36a_The_Article
22 FG_4m36v_Be_Smart
23 FG_4m37v_Change_The_Story
24 FG_4m38v_Outed
25 FG_4m39v_Val_Escapes
26 FG_4m41v_A_Shot_Across
27 FG_4m42v_Hate_Call
28 FG_4m43v_Broken_Trust
29 FG_4m44v_Director
30 FG_5m47v_Rove_Delivers_Findings
31 FG_5m48v_Talking_Heads
32 FG_5m49v_Breaking_Point
33 FG_6m50v_Cab_Hail
34 FG_6m51b_Capitol_360
35 FG_6m52v_What_They_Did
36 FG_6m53v_Reconciliation
37 FG_6m54v_Ready_To_Fight
38 FG_6m56v_End_Credits

Anonymous2011-10-24 03:48:41
yes it's true. by the way, what can you say for this Hybrid. Completely fake as you say for everything who win to post tracklist like this before you do it?

Mr. Fate2011-10-24 04:09:58
^^^The guy above me seems to be problematic and a non-believer.

Take care of him, please.

Of course, we could never know if it is continually the same guy who refuses to believe that Hybrid Soldier really does have anything: he's Anonymous. Yeah, good job genius.

Karambaru2011-10-24 14:32:58
I don't know for Hybrid, but for me at least this one's not a fake. But that's very old news, definitively. :)

Hybrid2011-10-24 20:16:39
don't be stupid. anyone can take my name and clai to be the 'real hybird'. just like now. stop acting pathetic and grovelling over someone who may not even exist. I claim to have the music, yet I do not share??? odd, eh?

Ele reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-04 00:00:00
Ready To Fight and Testify is fine, rest is boring. Also Kuala Lumpur is Green Zone copy-paste.

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-03 00:00:00
To be fair, I think the director wasn't seeking a bombastic score, let alone a melody driven orchestra. The story is sorta bleak, with all odds against one individual. I think the electronics resemble the highly evolved state of the CIA along with all the red tape that comes within this very story. It's simple, but at the same time very complex.

I think overall, it's music that was more or less used just to keep up with the story, the characters, and that's about it. It isn't like John's prievous scores where his music carries the soul of movies. This score was to carry the enviroment of the film - nothing more nothing less. And to be quite frank, it does the job. I certainly enjoy most of the music on here. Specifically "The White House" "Ready to Fight" "Uncomfortable Love" and "Testify"

Bou reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-02 00:00:00
The only interesting track on this album is "Testify" , the rest is pure crap ambiant and drone s...
looks like Powell wasn't interested at all

Zahn reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-01 00:00:00
@Evenstar
+1 ... I don't know what is wrong with Powell's magic here. It's disappointing!

Evenstar reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-31 00:00:00
really disappointing score :(

kakashi reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-22 00:00:00
@ mis and dawn. Hans zimmer likes composer to get a foothold in the business cause that the hardest thing to do, you always learn from each other and get inspiration from each other thats how the world works.

Mis reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-12 00:00:00
Ok, ok you're right ! I don't deny this ! :D

Dawn reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-12 00:00:00
@Mis

Zimmer, along with Jay Rifkin, created a music company called Media Ventures, later renamed "Remote Control". Powell was hired in this company for a while... working on projects where Zimmer was the main composer / producer.
Now Powell has his own trademark and is more a master than a student, but he definitely began his hollywood carrier thanks to Zimmer, being some kind of a member of Zimmer's team. You cannot deny it ! :D

Mis reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-11 00:00:00
I don't know, they were only partners, not "teacher and student". Maybe it's more correct if I say that they are both student, and they can learn about each other ! Is is better ? :)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-11 00:00:00
Mis, what about El Dorado, what about Antz, what about Chill Factor, Prince of Egypt, Endurance, The Thin Red Line, or Kung Fu Panda ? :P

Mis reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-11 00:00:00
"...ex-team members of Hans Zimmer" Powell as a ex-team member of Hans Zimmer.... I don't know, but I consider Powell as a separate composer. Zimmer and he had a job (Face off) but then they split up. That's all :) He learnt everything by ownself I think.

Dawn reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-09 00:00:00
I have a problem with this movie being called Fair Game, like the mid-90's actioner with Cindy Crawford, both films being scored by ex-team members of Hans Zimmer ! :)

aldan reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-09 00:00:00
You can hear the samples at amazon.
this is the link:
http://www.amazon.com/Fair-Game/dp/B0045X1GLK/ref=tmm_other_ title_0

another action-electronic music from john powell that sounds like doug liman' previous film score and recent greengrass' greenzone score. it sounds good, but i love powell scoring in animation world better.
(i want to be a composer in the future, and john powell is my main inspiration, so i love all john powell score)

Dani reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-06 00:00:00
I don't know about samples yet :( And I agree, I can't wait ! Anyway, you can hear one or two tracks in the movie's trailer :)

Roger reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-05 00:00:00
Awesome! Can't wait to hear this one! Any samples yet?
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