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Not as simply as that.... Training is Ramin's arrangement of a Hans theme, and the core of Mr. Charles when the Fischer theme isn't playing is a Hans idea, too, as far as I know. Take the Zimmer out and those moments wouldn't be the same.I think Balfe working with Nolan would have done a great jobBob,The Training is basically Ramin Djawadi and Mr.Charles is BalfeI hope these two team up again. Zimmer's score is the main driving force for some memorable scenes. Just a few<br>Batman Begins-The Training<br>TDK- Joker crash the party, Gordon's speech and ending<br>Inception - Time, Mr.Charles, <br>TKDR - the climb, imagine the fire and orphan<br>Interstellar-Stay, Docking, coward, mountain<br>Dunkirk - well the entire movieJustin Hurwitz I can see. I enjoyed La La Land and First Man. But Both Hurwitz and Göransson are several notches above Lorne Balfe. <br><br>I think 80/100 directors would rather work with Göransson than Balfe.
I really believe that Nolan has made a mistake as a composer.I think Lorne Balfe, David Julyan or Justin Hurwitz would be much better options than Ludwig Goransson.Interesting news. <br><br>Geoff Zanelli is one of those composers who I’ve loved his additional music over his solo efforts, Pirates 5 excluded. I hope he gets a chance to write some great fantasy music for this, regardless if he reuses JNH’s themes or not.I think I am the only one, who would be glad about David Julyan return.<br><br>I really like his music for early Nolan's films, especially Insomnia, and it's what i can call an "atmospheric experience".<br><br>Don't know how his music fits for espionage timetraveling movie, but, for me, i'st would be something interesting to hear.@mpolonest123: those Pemberton scores are indeed pure gold, very cool on album but insanely good in the movie. My favorite is still his King Arthur, that was a beast of a score that stuck with the movie like glue and really enhanced Guy Ritchie's dark, twisted, trippy vision.*3 things
Sure, but there's two things to consider. <br>1). Pirates has such an iconic sound that it'd be really stupid for them to suddenly abandon it at #5. Especially when we hired the guy who has worked on the previous 4. 2). Maleficent, as successful as it was to warrant a sequel, isn't quite as well known in the score department, despite being well received by those who have heard it. 3). Because Zanelli worked on all Pirates, he had enough familiarity with the sounds and motifs that he knew where to go once he led the ship. In Maleficent's case, he's taking over from a previous composer, and is working with a director who likely only knows his work on POTC5. As such, there's no knowing yet if he might be compelled to continue on from JNH, or if it's decided he just does his own thing.<br><br>I'm happy that Geoff at the very least has a safe career at Disney, considering two of their recent live action successes has had him involved. However, considering I hear his recently work hasn't been his best, JNH likely would've benefited from returning to a world that had some of his best material after he wasn't given the opportunity to do so with Glass. As such, it really is a severely missed opportunity, even if newer blood is getting more opportunities.Just listening to this again. It really is a best of both score. What I think is so great, is that you can hear both of the brothers' own voice but they blend so well together!! Really really great score!<br><br>It's a really remarkable score, the swifts in tone between dramatic and jazz is top-notch. It's higher on favorite list from 2019 already, than I thought it would ever be.<br><br>Give me more Gregson-Williams brothers scores!!!!!!I was hoping for JNH, but we'll see what he does. JNH's themes were amazing zo it would be stupod not to use them. But he used the Pirates themes, so I'm feeling actually quite ok about itTrue, but he didn’t really get credit for The Lone Ranger or any of the Pirates films other than #5... those are billed strictly as HZ scores. I would say Christopher Robin likely was a result of the success of his Pirates score, and Timothy Green wasn’t really a Disney tentpole release. Maleficent isn’t a Marvel or Star Wars level tentpole, but it is still a blockbuster film that I think he’ll do an awesome job with.@Mephariel - you’re right. However Interstellar and Inception, musically speaking, are simple scores. They are moving, beautiful, and masterpieces, but still simple. Which is great! <br><br>But if we are wanting Zimmer to return to a type of music, I’d much rather prefer something along the lines of Pirates, The Rock, The Last Samurai, Crimson Tide, etc. Tonally, of course it would be more modern and new, but melodically a return to those forms would be a dream come true.
Geoff has done several other Disney projects besides Pirates 5.  (All Pirates movies since the first, Lone Ranger, Christopher Robin, Odd Life of Timothy Green). And I have to say that I would rather JNH return for the sequel, as that would allow him to expand on his fantastic score for the first film.@George<br><br>To be fair, Interstellar is a genuine masterpiece score and maybe one my favorite score of all time, but I am not sure when Nolan will allow Zimmer to return to that type of scoring. <br><br>Hell, Time is my favorite cue ever, but again, I am not sure if Nolan is interested in that kind of music anymore.  <br><br>I guess we will see with Tenet. And yes, I absolutely think Göransson can be a future star in the making and if anyone is allow write his or her own "Time" cultural moment, it may as well be him.@mephariel @mpolonest123 - glad I’m not the only one who’s more excited for those compared to cold and dark Nolan/Zimmer scores. I’m kinda over those to be honest.And if I’m completely honest, I’m more excited by WW84, Spongebob, Top Gun, and Dark Phoenix than another potential Nolan collab.@mephariel <br>I can definitely see that, especially with King Arthur and Spiderverse. I do think his music adds a lot to the films he scores (Steve Jobs and Man From Uncle being two great examples) where he consistently switches up styles and tones to keep things fresh. Maybe not the strongest theme writer but I do love his approaches.

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Label: La-La Land Records
Length: 42'20 rating:        3/5
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  1. Stanton, PA (3:33)
  2. Frank Barnes (2:11)
  3. Will's Story (1:56)
  4. Ned (2:08)
  5. Dewey (2:25)
  6. Not A Coaster (2:18)
  7. "Are You In Or Are You Out?" (6:13)
  8. Realign The Switch (3:10)
  9. Galvin's Strategy (2:25)
  10. Playing Chicken With Trains (1:35)
  11. Will Guides 1206 (4:04)
  12. The Stanton Curve (6:02)
  13. "Who Do I Kiss First?" (4:20)
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Snake reply Replies: 5 || 2011-07-18 06:01:09
There are two missing musicians there. Heitor Pereira and Tony Morales. I have the soundtrack so if you ask me an image of it I'll gladly send you that guys.

Anonymous2011-07-18 06:07:04
you have unreleased music?

Snake2011-07-19 01:44:23
Unrealesed music?WTF?

Snake2011-07-26 07:36:41
I bought the Original Soundtrack and there are missing credits such as Heitor Pereira and Tony Morales on Guitars and Hugh Marsh on violin and Ryeland Allison isn't the music programmer, that is Anthony Lledo. Richard Whitfield, Jamie Luker and Del Spiva are also included in the Soundtrack.

Snake2011-07-26 07:39:47
I bought the Original Soundtrack and there are missing credits such as Heitor Pereira and Tony Morales on Guitars and Hugh Marsh on violin and Ryeland Allison isn't the music programmer, that is Anthony Lledo. Richard Whitfield, Jamie Luker and Del Spiva are also included in the Soundtrack.

Snake2011-07-26 07:52:29
I forgot some other credits: Halli Cauthery and Hybrid as additional music programmers, Booker White as copyist and Tim Lauber as recordist

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-11 00:00:00
I felt the same when I heard it, but i don't think that he wanted to steal the tune. What really feds me up is the fact that some cues sound almost exacly like Pelham 123 :S

Prott reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-11 00:00:00
Rango: I don`t think it`s Harry`s fault (I can`t imagine he did it because he wanted to).
... Probably someone really liked the temp track.

Rango reply Replies: 0 || 2011-02-11 00:00:00
this is a soundtrack where i have to say, and I am a HGW-fan, shame on you harry!!!
Such a bad score, just some ugly cracking beats and that's it. And then having the idea of doing such an immense copy of WHY SO SERIOUS is absolutely... oh man. I can't believe that he earned with that score so much money.

I'm wondering if Hans has heard some cues of it, especially the brutally rip-off of his track for the Joker. Everything is there, the guitar theme, the one note that gets higher, the rusty violins and cellos...

Absolutely wow, and really shame on you Harry for this :/

It has a beautiful melody in there but too short and then always put together with that immense rip-off.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-12-30 00:00:00
The Stanton Curve = Why So Serious?

Falconet from Italy reply Replies: 0 || 2010-12-01 00:00:00
Here's some addittional credits :

Ryeland Allison: music programmer
Justin Caine Burnett: composer: additional music
Hybrid composer: additional music
Martin Tillman: soloist: electric cello

cameron reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-25 00:00:00
Frank Barnes is great sound track was copies from Indian Bollywood music...but great work

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-19 00:00:00

Ah thanks! That strange American style... I don't get why they do it here, since they are French!
Maybe BECAUSE they're French...........

Cloud reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-19 00:00:00
Yes, it's a little confusing, as it's usually year / month / day. Here it's month / day / year. Oh, well... btw. my (autographed) copy got shipped out today, yay! ;)

asd reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-18 00:00:00
@Adrian: hahaha no buddy. not july ^^. it's the 7th december ;P

Mcbain reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-18 00:00:00
Those are the best soundclips from a Tony Scott movie I've heard in a long time! Hopefully the rest of the score is just as good! Go Harry!

Adrian reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-18 00:00:00
Thanks for the tip!

It sounds like a fusion of Bourne and Wolverine... especially Frank Barnes!

But it sounds very good, I'll most likely buy this one :-) Hopefully will offer the autographed copies too! Why did they announce it now, but release it in July? That's so long away... Are they waiting to see if the film is a succes? Or are they afraid of a Season of the Witch-repeat?

HGW4 reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-17 00:00:00
La La Lands Records website has some sound clips up....they were also selling autographed copies...

tomPoland reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-17 00:00:00
Sounds like Deja Vu 2 (at least in the movie)

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-17 00:00:00
Great score, just saw the film! Lots of samples from DEJA VU are used

Todd reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-16 00:00:00
Where can we hear sound slips?

HGW4 reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-12 00:00:00
So excited....

David reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-10 00:00:00
I Love Harry Gregson WIlliams.
The Best Composer ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Harry reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-10 00:00:00
100 Copies with the sign!!!!!

RuthlessGravity reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-10 00:00:00
Wow, a month away from release of the actual movie? That sucks, but I guess it shouldn't be that much of a problem considering we are going to get it eventually.

Wayne reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-10 00:00:00
One of the best Gregson!!!
I can't stop listening the track number 3(beautiful) and the top action track number 6,10,11.
''Who Do i Kiss First?'' i'ts amazing!!Wow!!
Great work Harry!!

Dakota reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-09 00:00:00
Damn, why such a late release date? I hope it's good

Lasse reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-09 00:00:00
i really look forward to this one :)
Harry Gregson Williams music in tony scott style :)
hell yeah :D

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-09 00:00:00
from what reviews are saying it's totally forgettable. Typical Harry and Tony borefest

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-09 00:00:00
Considering I've enjoyed their past few collaborations (namely Deja Vu), I remain optimistic!

Jaros428 reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-09 00:00:00
here's the tracklisting....

1. Stanton, PA
2. Frank Barnes
3. Will's Story
4. Ned
5. Dewey
6. Not A Coaster
7. Are You In Or Are You Out?
8. Realign The Switch
9. Galvin's Strategy
10. Playing Chicken With Trains
11. Will Guides 1206
12. The Stanton Curve
13. Who Do I Kiss First?

Jaros428 reply Replies: 0 || 2010-11-09 00:00:00
also, here's what a reviewer on Cine Talk said about the score....

"Harry Gregson-Williams score is very good, although it does sound very similar to THE DARK KNIGHT score, in some ways it’s better, because it really fits the feel of the picture. When these two, Gregson-Williams and Scott, get together, its always great. I did notice that there were some cues from AVP2 score too".

Jon reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-27 00:00:00
Awesome. And it comes from La-La-Land, which is an excellent label.

HGW4 reply Replies: 0 || 2010-10-27 00:00:00
I can't wait!!!!!© 2001-2018 OST 
Unstoppable soundtrack - Harry Gregson-Williams 2010