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Wow! Stephen Barton worked on a lot of the important cues here, huh?I'm with Edmund in that I'd love for Hans to win more Oscars, but not this score. I feel like even Blade Runner 2049 is more deserving of an award than this. Sure, it works great in the film, but that shouldn't be reason enough for an Oscar. I feel like Desplat's nominated score is more deserving than this one. <br><br>"But this one has a unique sound and recording!"<br><br>Okay... a lot of scores have that. A lot of Zimmer's work has that. Doesn't make them all masterpieces.<br><br>"But we have to spite those evil reviewers who hate this score!"<br><br>Why do you let their opinion get in the way of your enjoyment? If you love it enough, the critics' opinions should only make you enjoy it more because you see something in it they don't. <br><br>I agree with George in that Hans needs to go back to a melodic sound. I don't think whether this score wins or not will change Hans' mind on that, but I do want his next Oscar winner to mean something other than, "Oh cool! I won this award because I made weird sounds!" (Which by the way, involves things like programming and a lot of other technical adjustments that have nothing to do with Hans' composing ability)."The thing that I'm proudest about Dunkirk is you can't separate it from the film."<br>- Hans Zimmer, GQI understand, but it does not make sense.<br>You're arguing that the score for a movie released in January this year was produced before of the score of a movie that went to theaters in July. If Balfe started working on "12 strong" a year before the movie release, the same can be said of Dunkirk. It is easy to infer that the Dunkirk's score has been working since the middle of 2016! Or even before, because of the tours that Zimmer has done.<br>The music/sound design, even being simple, was not made and recorded between January and May of last year.Olive  that is when it was announced !!! Not when he did it
Balfe's hiring came out in May, when Dunkirk's production was already at the end. No contest.<br><br><br>filmmusicreporter.  com/ <br> 2017/05/24/lorne-balfe-to-score-horse-soldiers/Hans finished the bulk of the score before he went on tour, you could find an interview where he himself says so. <br>Ben worked solely on Variation 15. <br>Scroll down on this page and you'll find the full cuesheet with the credits. <br>Edmund - how do you think Zimmer wrote Dunkirk when he was on a world tour !!!Congratulations to Ben, Lorne also .Edmund - the release dates do not matter . Check out Balfe’s Facebook page and you will see he was recording 12 Strong early last year .I've only heard the suite Hybrid made. The only similarity I was aware of is the siren-like sound. <br><br>People don't realize how difficult scoring Dunkirk was. Just because you love Interstellar (I do too - it's my favorite HZ score) but that doesn't mean Dunkirk doesn't deserve to win. <br>
Edmund, in all honesty what are the similarities between 12 Strong and Dunkirk? I know both scores and fail to see how they connect.Doesn't deserve an Oscar. Hans Zimmer is my favorite composer but if he didn't win for Interstellar, he shouldn't win for this. <br><br>I can seriously say that I object this score winning based on that principle. This winning over Interstellar just isn't right.Well, the credits say that Supermarine or the oil are pure Zimmer, and also the 3 first track I think. So Balfe helped him to develop some ideas during his tour but the majority of the score is Hans' work.<br>And it does deserve an Oscar. I never heard a score like that.. If you have a problem with the score I think it comes from the script. A classical melodical music wouldn t work for this film i think.Source? I find that hard to believe considering the release dates. Even if it is true, Balfe might have been concurrently working on Dunkirk and brought over some of the ideas. I find it spectacularly improbably that he and Hans just HAPPENED to come up with the same ideas at the same time.Edmund - gets you facts right please . 12 Strong was written before Dunkirk
Here's an interesting opinion: I want Hans to win this one so that he DOESN'T continue making music like this. Sure its functional, but if he could reinvent the melodic score again and get back to writing memorable melodies I'd be pretty happy. He won for Lion King and then essentially abandoned that tone of music which transitioned into the Crimson Tide/The Rock sound... so maybe, just maybe, if he wins this year he'll completely reinvent his sound again and give us something both melodically memorable but also be a total game changer in terms of modern scores.I hope it doesn't win if for no other reason than so we don't have to go through 5 years of Dunkirk temp tracks (although if 12 Strong is anything to go by, too late).@Ahmad i only need "The Oil (Film Version)" :D Then i'll be happy :D*That was a thumbs up but it didn't work :D<br><br>^This how I feel lol.I hope Dunkirk wins just to make the so-called "reviewers" and those who say it isn't music, more frustrated and annoyed.
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  The Chronicles Of Narnia - The Lion, The Witch And The Wardrobe (Expanded Score)2018-01-24 03:59:46
Mike (OTM)
Wow! Stephen Barton worked on a lot of the important cues here, huh?
  Dunkirk2018-01-24 01:41:38
superultramegaa
I'm with Edmund in that I'd love for Hans to win more Oscars, but not this score. I feel like even Blade Runner 2049 is more deserving of an award than this. Sure, it works great in the film, but that shouldn't be reason enough for an Oscar. I feel like Desplat's nominated score is more deserving than this one.

"But this one has a unique sound and recording!"

Okay... a lot of scores have that. A lot of Zimmer's work has that. Doesn't make them all masterpieces.

"But we have to spite those evil reviewers who hate this score!"

Why do you let their opinion get in the way of your enjoyment? If you love it enough, the critics' opinions should only make you enjoy it more because you see something in it they don't.

I agree with George in that Hans needs to go back to a melodic sound. I don't think whether this score wins or not will change Hans' mind on that, but I do want his next Oscar winner to mean something other than, "Oh cool! I won this award because I made weird sounds!" (Which by the way, involves things like programming and a lot of other technical adjustments that have nothing to do with Hans' composing ability).
  Dunkirk2018-01-24 01:40:05
Jor-El
"The thing that I'm proudest about Dunkirk is you can't separate it from the film."
- Hans Zimmer, GQ
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 23:15:16
Olive
I understand, but it does not make sense.
You're arguing that the score for a movie released in January this year was produced before of the score of a movie that went to theaters in July. If Balfe started working on "12 strong" a year before the movie release, the same can be said of Dunkirk. It is easy to infer that the Dunkirk's score has been working since the middle of 2016! Or even before, because of the tours that Zimmer has done.
The music/sound design, even being simple, was not made and recorded between January and May of last year.
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 22:39:11
Miguel
Olive that is when it was announced !!! Not when he did it
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 20:39:43
Olive
Balfe's hiring came out in May, when Dunkirk's production was already at the end. No contest.


filmmusicreporter. com/
2017/05/24/lorne-balfe-to-score-horse-soldiers/
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 19:24:57
Ahmad
Hans finished the bulk of the score before he went on tour, you could find an interview where he himself says so.
Ben worked solely on Variation 15.
Scroll down on this page and you'll find the full cuesheet with the credits.
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 18:40:51
Peter
Edmund - how do you think Zimmer wrote Dunkirk when he was on a world tour !!!Congratulations to Ben, Lorne also .
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 18:10:55
AndrewP
Edmund - the release dates do not matter . Check out Balfe’s Facebook page and you will see he was recording 12 Strong early last year .
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 18:10:44
Ahmad
I've only heard the suite Hybrid made. The only similarity I was aware of is the siren-like sound.

People don't realize how difficult scoring Dunkirk was. Just because you love Interstellar (I do too - it's my favorite HZ score) but that doesn't mean Dunkirk doesn't deserve to win.
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 17:53:40
Ds
Edmund, in all honesty what are the similarities between 12 Strong and Dunkirk? I know both scores and fail to see how they connect.
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 17:42:13
Mephariel
Doesn't deserve an Oscar. Hans Zimmer is my favorite composer but if he didn't win for Interstellar, he shouldn't win for this.

I can seriously say that I object this score winning based on that principle. This winning over Interstellar just isn't right.
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 16:44:21
MaxPotcats
Well, the credits say that Supermarine or the oil are pure Zimmer, and also the 3 first track I think. So Balfe helped him to develop some ideas during his tour but the majority of the score is Hans' work.
And it does deserve an Oscar. I never heard a score like that.. If you have a problem with the score I think it comes from the script. A classical melodical music wouldn t work for this film i think.
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 16:09:39
Edmund Meinerts
Source? I find that hard to believe considering the release dates. Even if it is true, Balfe might have been concurrently working on Dunkirk and brought over some of the ideas. I find it spectacularly improbably that he and Hans just HAPPENED to come up with the same ideas at the same time.
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 15:49:26
AndrewP
Edmund - gets you facts right please . 12 Strong was written before Dunkirk
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 15:38:44
George
Here's an interesting opinion: I want Hans to win this one so that he DOESN'T continue making music like this. Sure its functional, but if he could reinvent the melodic score again and get back to writing memorable melodies I'd be pretty happy. He won for Lion King and then essentially abandoned that tone of music which transitioned into the Crimson Tide/The Rock sound... so maybe, just maybe, if he wins this year he'll completely reinvent his sound again and give us something both melodically memorable but also be a total game changer in terms of modern scores.
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 15:34:56
Edmund Meinerts
I hope it doesn't win if for no other reason than so we don't have to go through 5 years of Dunkirk temp tracks (although if 12 Strong is anything to go by, too late).
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 15:30:39
badbu
@Ahmad i only need "The Oil (Film Version)" :D Then i'll be happy :D
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 15:29:53
Ahmad
*That was a thumbs up but it didn't work :D

^This how I feel lol.
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 15:26:58
Anonymous
I hope Dunkirk wins just to make the so-called "reviewers" and those who say it isn't music, more frustrated and annoyed.
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 15:21:37
Ahmad
@badbu &#128077;

I honestly don't know how a complete score is going to work. They weren't kidding when they said the music is done like one long track.

What I understood from a Q&A with Nolan is that they didn't do it the usual way which means there are cues that are cut together / exist as segments. This was done in a different way where to create such cues, they used automation graphs to bring the layers in and out. Very complex.

One of the reasons why I think this deserves to win so many awards.
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 15:10:31
George
Well it has officially been nominated. Fingers crossed for the complete score now
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 15:06:28
badbu
yep ahmad! 100% right
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 14:57:17
Ahmad
The score is brilliant. It does its purpose very well and it is an essential part of the movie. It's also the most creative of the bunch with the way it was recorded and edited.
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 14:39:56
Edmund Meinerts
I'd like Hans to win another Oscar but please, not for this.
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 14:34:11
Badbu
YES HANS!!! The second Oscar is COMMING! :D
  Blade Runner 20492018-01-23 14:24:17
Ahmad
Mesa is a cue in the film and it has to match with what's happening in the scene.

Blade Runner is an end credits suite which allows the themes to breathe a little. I think the two versions are identical when it comes to pitch.
  Dunkirk2018-01-23 14:14:34
MaxPotcats
If it's nominated for the Oscar, the complete score will be released. So it should be out these weeks.
  Blade Runner 20492018-01-23 08:01:01
Mephariel
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that track just "Blade Runner" on the Album. There is lower pitch version of "Mesa" within that cue.
  Frost/Nixon (Complete Score)2018-01-23 06:56:02
Kingfannypack/Milfcommander
Is this score actually out there? Never seen it around
  Blade Runner 20492018-01-23 06:18:32
K
Looks like some of the OST titles are actual cue names. "Shesome" is most likely "Joi","You're Free To Mee Your Daughter" is probably "Tera's In the Rain", which is really Vangelis, "Crushing Joi" when Luv steps on the vile that Joi is stored in. You could figure out several. Any composers beyond HZ/BW attached?
  Blade Runner 20492018-01-23 05:53:45
Jor-El
Some cue titles on ASCAP

2049
ALL THE BEST MEMORIES ARE HERS
BIBI ADVERT MUSIC
BIBI BAR BASS
BIBI'S
BIG BAND STING
BLADE RUNNER
BLADE RUNNER 2049 THEME (alternate title is apparently BLADE RUNNER 2049 CREDITS)
BOMB
CRUSHING JOI
DNA
FLIGHT TO LAPD
FURNACE
HER EYES WERE GREEN
K RESCUED
LIKE A REAL GIRL
LUV IN APARTMENT
MEMORY
MESA HIJACK
MUST PROTECT THE CHILD
NEW MODEL
ORPHANAGE
OSSUARY
PILOTFISH
RAIN
RETURN TO SAPPER'S
SAPPER'S TREE
SEA WALL
SHESOME
SOMEONE LIVED THIS
TRASH MESA
WALLACE
YOU IMAGINED IT WAS YOU
YOU'RE FREE TO MEET YOUR DAUGHTER
  Kingsman - The Golden Circle2018-01-23 02:26:54
George
You may be right, but I actually think Jackman did a pretty good job with his scores this year. I enjoyed Jumanji, and i may be in the minority here but i actually really enjoyed Kong as well. I tend to think he and Margeson just have a great collaborating chemistry because those Kingsman scores are two of the best scores either one of them has done.
  The Crown (TV Series - Season 1)2018-01-23 02:09:08
olive
I hope he does a better job than in WW. I like the main theme, but I'm not much of a fan of the RGW score. The most striking moments of it are those in which it mentions King Arthur or The Last Samurai.
  Kingsman - The Golden Circle2018-01-23 00:25:16
Macejko
Finally got around to watch this - heavily underappreciated- sequel, and listening to its fantastic score I'm almost positive Jackman had nothing to do with it and it was all Matt Margeson's work.

I liked his Jumanji, to be honest, but it "only" felt like Jackman slowly coming to his senses after years of lackluster input (Kong, Civil War, Jack Reacher etc.) - it was by no means a strong, thematic, action packed, masterfully orchestrated score as Kingsman 2 (or the first one, for that matter) was. This alone tells me volumes about the composer-listing shennanigans of this soundtrack. If this isn't Margeson through and through, I will eat my hat and chug it down with whiskey.
  The Crown (TV Series - Season 1)2018-01-22 21:57:00
Joshua
I completely agree!
  The Crown (TV Series - Season 1)2018-01-22 20:31:14
George
Lol okay I trust you, its awesome how RGW has broken from the comedic scores and is getting some really good opportunities to create some pretty incredible music
  The Crown (TV Series - Season 1)2018-01-22 20:20:39
Joshua
Can't divulge the source. But it's happening.
  The Crown (TV Series - Season 1)2018-01-22 19:56:14
George
Source???? If true I'm pumped. No more of that Elfman crap lol
  The Crown (TV Series - Season 1)2018-01-22 18:56:16
Joshua
Rup's is scoring Aquaman!
  Batman V Superman - Dawn Of Justice (Expanded Score)2018-01-22 16:29:44
Rigby
I’m talking about the Bruce Wayne Dream sequences (and at the beginning of preparation montage). They use the world engine effect in the background, im not sure if it’s the score or just the sfx
  Batman V Superman - Dawn Of Justice (Expanded Score)2018-01-22 16:05:54
Medigo
I am pretty sure they were not incorporated in the film either.
You just hear them whenever the engine fires. And sometimes its timed pretty well with the music
  Batman V Superman - Dawn Of Justice (Expanded Score)2018-01-22 14:47:36
Rigby
Question for anyone whos actually heard this, are the world engine sound effects incorporated in the score like they are in the film?
  Megamind (Complete Score)2018-01-22 00:03:07
Harry Harry
How do I listen to this tracklist?
  Batman V Superman - Dawn Of Justice (Expanded Score)2018-01-21 23:10:34
Darkknight
Hey man could any of you please help me find the film version of harry transformation from TASM 2 complete score? I got the 3:09 long one but that's the album version
  Transformers - The Last Knight2018-01-21 22:14:53
superultramegaa
Ah, ok. I didn't know that was a suite, Backbiter. Thanks!
  Transformers - The Last Knight2018-01-21 21:29:02
Backbiter
superultramegaa i think that you are missing The Knight Ship from TF4.
  Transformers - The Last Knight2018-01-21 19:42:13
JBSO99
Wow, great collection superultramega! I don't know if there are any of them missing, but with those, there is a 35-track collection. Not bad at all!
  Batman V Superman - Dawn Of Justice (Expanded Score)2018-01-21 19:11:40
....
The bigger question is; how many more suites did Hans record. We know about The Batman Suite, but what about Lex, etc.
  12 Strong2018-01-21 17:56:47
Patrick
So digging this score
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