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Edmund ! For YOU !! lolthis one is my pick for the oscar as well. hope it wins : )When will this tracklist be leaked?I heard and thought that Zimmer stopt scoring superhero movies (including Justice League and what comes after) because it has taken 13 years of his life and he wanted to do something elseWere the two men no longer talking or did Zimmer anticipate Snyder's departure as he did in Pirates?
@Olive: Rumors says Zimmer didn't want compose Justice League because of Snyder, and left behind JunkieI agree that Elfman's theme fits into Nolan's films as long as they are adapted to them. However, I think the way things have gone was not bad. TDK trilogy was marked as a project fruit of Nolan's unique vision. Although the themes do not respect the orchestral tradition are more memorable than those composed for more than half of the films of heroes of the last 25 years.Zimmer's entry into the genre can be interpreted as a breath of fresh air in a saturated marketplace at the time. But I agree that the lack of originality these days falls on Zimmer and his company and that the goal of it goes far beyond bringing talents to light.Now we need something new, again.@Hybrid any news on Season 2 soundtrack release?Of cause Balfe worked on it !!! His whole team are credited !!!!!!!Honestly, the purpose of RCP is essentially to take Zimmer's style and make it widespread for use...WB not using ANY RCP to score this seems to have been deliberate, as there's literally no reason it couldn't be done.
^ hahaha :D<br><br>I think you're forgetting that Balfe also ghostwrote The Lord of the Rings?They're starting to send screeners. Finger crossed for the FYC :DThe score reflects the situation of DC movies very well. If Zimmer, like Snyder, continued, the result may not please everyone. A lot of people were unhappy with Snyder's work in the genre, just as many fans of soundtrack were with Zimmer's contributions that never followed the path taken by all the other composers who came before him.<br><br>The two left (regardless of the reason that led them to do this).<br><br>When Zimmer left everyone knew that XL would not hold the pressure or that the result would not be satisfactory for most.<br><br>When Elfman and Whedon were announced we all knew that they were hired to go against everything DC has done before to try to reach the first film of the franchise to reach 1 billion. Even if they were to follow Marvel's script and drop their originality.<br><br>But the hiring of Elfman and Whedon shows that the studio was long lost. Snyder succumbed to BvS. The only salvation for the DCEU are the solo films like Wonder Woman, the next Batman, Aquaman ...and freedom. Freedom for the directors, composers... Warner has always had this advantage over Marvel.@Edmund <br>Given the chance I think Junkie probably could deliver a pretty fun score that stayed thematically consistent with the current universe. It all depends on what the studio/director wants out of the music. The biggest disappointment to me is that this was a huge missed opportunity to do a heroic take on Zimmer’s Superman theme, something we haven’t heard since MoS. Hell, even the trailers did that.... -_-rumor has it Lorne Balfe did this score<br><br>I guess if we do not get any credits then that proves it<br>======================================<br><br>Oh, absolutely! I'm sure we will soon find out that Balfe also scored Star Wars and Titanic. And Harry Potter. And Indiana Jones.
Edmund, I somewhat agree - I've seen very little from Junkie to make me think this would have been a groundbreaking, wonderful score. However, maybe it's the Zimmer fan in me, but I would have loved to hear "stock, barely-altered reprises of Zimmer's themes all over the place" in this score. So many scenes begged for just that. Compositionally it doesn't make for an interesting soundtrack or film score, I agree, but I would be willing to sacrifice that for thematic continuity.I certainly understand the criticisms leveled at Elfman's JL score, but I'm not at all convinced Junkie would have been a better option. I've never been too convinced by him anyway (Mad Max was a situation where his sound happened to be a good fit, but even then I think a better composer could have made much more out of the same ingredients). And since anything worthwhile in the previous two (and yeah, I'm aware I like MoS and BvS waaaaaaaay less than the average reader of this site) ended up being by Hans anyway, I really doubt Junkie flying solo would have been up to much. My guess is he would have pulled out stock, barely-altered reprises of Zimmer's themes all over the place without adding much new material on his own, which would have satisfied the DC fans more than what Elfman did, sure, but would have been a lot less interesting as a score album. I mean, say what you want about the questionable thematic decisions Elfman made, the two gigantic full-length action cues are pretty solid in and of themselves. I'll take that over Junkie letting the drums pound for eleven minutes straight, any day of the week.The studio is the music owner now.There you go. So we probably will never get to hear what Tom planned/did for this movie. I really believe that it would've been great compared to the generic score we got. <br>Only two tracks stood out to me and only one was an actual cue from the movie.Gabriel Yared leaked his Troy back in 2004 but I think he got in quite a lot of trouble for that. There's a reason he hasn't done too many high profile films since then, I think. A few rejecteds have slipped out over the years but it's pretty unheard of for the composer himself to be the one to leak it I think, that would be career suicide if they got caught. Usually they come out the same way complete scores do, some anonymous person working on the scoring team probably did it.
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  Ferdinand2017-11-23 00:17:52
Hybrid Soldier
Edmund ! For YOU !! lol
  Dunkirk2017-11-22 21:02:15
nvictor
this one is my pick for the oscar as well. hope it wins : )
  Ender's Game (Complete Score)2017-11-22 16:32:49
Kampfkeks46
When will this tracklist be leaked?
  Justice League2017-11-22 16:23:45
Iamtommie
I heard and thought that Zimmer stopt scoring superhero movies (including Justice League and what comes after) because it has taken 13 years of his life and he wanted to do something else
  Justice League2017-11-22 14:56:29
James
Were the two men no longer talking or did Zimmer anticipate Snyder's departure as he did in Pirates?
  Justice League2017-11-22 14:51:53
MrZimmerFan
@Olive: Rumors says Zimmer didn't want compose Justice League because of Snyder, and left behind Junkie
  Justice League2017-11-22 13:53:55
James
I agree that Elfman's theme fits into Nolan's films as long as they are adapted to them. However, I think the way things have gone was not bad. TDK trilogy was marked as a project fruit of Nolan's unique vision. Although the themes do not respect the orchestral tradition are more memorable than those composed for more than half of the films of heroes of the last 25 years.Zimmer's entry into the genre can be interpreted as a breath of fresh air in a saturated marketplace at the time. But I agree that the lack of originality these days falls on Zimmer and his company and that the goal of it goes far beyond bringing talents to light.Now we need something new, again.
  The Crown (TV Series - Season 1)2017-11-22 13:41:08
Felix
@Hybrid any news on Season 2 soundtrack release?
  Transformers - The Last Knight2017-11-22 13:25:43
Andrew
Of cause Balfe worked on it !!! His whole team are credited !!!!!!!
  Justice League2017-11-22 13:05:54
meta
Honestly, the purpose of RCP is essentially to take Zimmer's style and make it widespread for use...WB not using ANY RCP to score this seems to have been deliberate, as there's literally no reason it couldn't be done.
  Transformers - The Last Knight2017-11-22 12:54:38
Edmund Meinerts
^ hahaha :D

I think you're forgetting that Balfe also ghostwrote The Lord of the Rings?
  Dunkirk2017-11-22 12:26:59
badbu
They're starting to send screeners. Finger crossed for the FYC :D
  Justice League2017-11-22 04:03:34
Olive
The score reflects the situation of DC movies very well. If Zimmer, like Snyder, continued, the result may not please everyone. A lot of people were unhappy with Snyder's work in the genre, just as many fans of soundtrack were with Zimmer's contributions that never followed the path taken by all the other composers who came before him.

The two left (regardless of the reason that led them to do this).

When Zimmer left everyone knew that XL would not hold the pressure or that the result would not be satisfactory for most.

When Elfman and Whedon were announced we all knew that they were hired to go against everything DC has done before to try to reach the first film of the franchise to reach 1 billion. Even if they were to follow Marvel's script and drop their originality.

But the hiring of Elfman and Whedon shows that the studio was long lost. Snyder succumbed to BvS. The only salvation for the DCEU are the solo films like Wonder Woman, the next Batman, Aquaman ...and freedom. Freedom for the directors, composers... Warner has always had this advantage over Marvel.
  Justice League2017-11-21 18:22:52
mpolonest123
@Edmund
Given the chance I think Junkie probably could deliver a pretty fun score that stayed thematically consistent with the current universe. It all depends on what the studio/director wants out of the music. The biggest disappointment to me is that this was a huge missed opportunity to do a heroic take on Zimmer’s Superman theme, something we haven’t heard since MoS. Hell, even the trailers did that.... -_-
  Transformers - The Last Knight2017-11-21 18:09:20
Bayhem
rumor has it Lorne Balfe did this score

I guess if we do not get any credits then that proves it
======================================

Oh, absolutely! I'm sure we will soon find out that Balfe also scored Star Wars and Titanic. And Harry Potter. And Indiana Jones.
  Justice League2017-11-21 17:58:50
Gotham Rogue
Edmund, I somewhat agree - I've seen very little from Junkie to make me think this would have been a groundbreaking, wonderful score. However, maybe it's the Zimmer fan in me, but I would have loved to hear "stock, barely-altered reprises of Zimmer's themes all over the place" in this score. So many scenes begged for just that. Compositionally it doesn't make for an interesting soundtrack or film score, I agree, but I would be willing to sacrifice that for thematic continuity.
  Justice League2017-11-21 15:54:50
Edmund Meinerts
I certainly understand the criticisms leveled at Elfman's JL score, but I'm not at all convinced Junkie would have been a better option. I've never been too convinced by him anyway (Mad Max was a situation where his sound happened to be a good fit, but even then I think a better composer could have made much more out of the same ingredients). And since anything worthwhile in the previous two (and yeah, I'm aware I like MoS and BvS waaaaaaaay less than the average reader of this site) ended up being by Hans anyway, I really doubt Junkie flying solo would have been up to much. My guess is he would have pulled out stock, barely-altered reprises of Zimmer's themes all over the place without adding much new material on his own, which would have satisfied the DC fans more than what Elfman did, sure, but would have been a lot less interesting as a score album. I mean, say what you want about the questionable thematic decisions Elfman made, the two gigantic full-length action cues are pretty solid in and of themselves. I'll take that over Junkie letting the drums pound for eleven minutes straight, any day of the week.
  Justice League2017-11-21 15:47:57
Olive
The studio is the music owner now.
  Justice League2017-11-21 15:00:36
Ahmad
There you go. So we probably will never get to hear what Tom planned/did for this movie. I really believe that it would've been great compared to the generic score we got.
Only two tracks stood out to me and only one was an actual cue from the movie.
  Justice League2017-11-21 14:42:04
Edmund Meinerts
Gabriel Yared leaked his Troy back in 2004 but I think he got in quite a lot of trouble for that. There's a reason he hasn't done too many high profile films since then, I think. A few rejecteds have slipped out over the years but it's pretty unheard of for the composer himself to be the one to leak it I think, that would be career suicide if they got caught. Usually they come out the same way complete scores do, some anonymous person working on the scoring team probably did it.
  Justice League2017-11-21 14:22:58
Meta
and Zimmer criticized Elfman...back and forth, etc. So what? The movie is lame, the score is about as lame as Bat V Sup
  Justice League2017-11-21 13:09:51
iamtommie
@JBSO99 you're right. It's so big and widely spread.

And you're right about me forgetting those score. I just picked these three because Elfman critized Zimmer
  Justice League2017-11-21 12:08:18
JBSO99
@Iamtommie You forgot the theme by Elliot Goldenthal for Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, for not to mention the theme from the 60's TV show and all the themes for all the different animated motion pictures such as The Dark Knight Returns, Mask of the Phantasm, or the videogames like the Arkham series.

Batman's musical legacy is very big so him saying there is only one theme and his the one he created is really disrespectful to a big amount of composers.
  Justice League2017-11-21 11:54:53
JBSO99
Yeah, that's what I thought you meant. And that's what Elfman should have done if he wanted to use the old themes.
  Justice League2017-11-21 11:08:47
Iamtommie
I think what Elfman said is not true.
Batman has different themes for different movies because every Batman is different.

Michael Keaton as Batman: Elfman's Theme
Christian Bale as Batman: Hans' Theme
Ben Affleck as Batman: Hans & Junkie's Theme.
Of course much more but the most important.

Each one if dies Batman's have a different story and a different universe. I think that for each universe a new theme is the best thing you can do. With a different theme you can relate more to this Batman than a previous one.

By the way, I think TDK, MoS & WW are 3 of the top 10 themes by Zimmer. I think what Elfman did the WW theme is an abomination. He removed the key instrument in the theme because he thought it was childisch.

I think the Justce League score is way worse than previous DCEU or Batman movies. I hope that Lorne of Junkie will do future DCUE movies instead of Elfman.

(Seeing Justice League thursday. I am curious if it is really that bad as everyine says)
  Justice League2017-11-21 07:39:41
Ahmad
GITS was unreleased, JXL's JL score was completely rejected. The real qustion is how many rejected scores have leaked in the history of modern film scoring?
  Justice League2017-11-21 05:30:54
Everan
Ghost in a thing that doesn't have life but does
  Justice League2017-11-21 05:09:44
Kingfannypack
Which score would that be?
  Justice League2017-11-21 03:10:40
Rigby
Seeing as how Lorne Balfe “leaked” his own score, I wonder if Tom could easily do the same?
  Transformers - The Last Knight2017-11-21 02:58:00
LS100 Studios
Haha - honestly though, before I realized this I felt Jablonsky didn't really bind the score together that well with themes and motifs. This is a pretty cool connection and I'm glad he made it.
  Transformers - The Last Knight2017-11-21 01:59:52
Edmund Meinerts
Almost like this was a film score or something! ;)
  Blue Planet II (TV Series Documentary)2017-11-21 00:49:36
Mike (OTM)
I don't suppose you have credits for this score, Hybrid?
  Transformers - The Last Knight2017-11-21 00:28:35
LS100 Studios
Just realized that the drums in "Battlefield" fit with the beat of "We Have To Go". Awesome to see a connection between the two tracks!
  Justice League2017-11-20 18:47:40
James
They all respected the theme of Courage, but each new composer brought a different sub-theme to the franchise.
  Justice League2017-11-20 18:06:50
JBSO99
@James I don't know what you are referring to exactly, but I think that Horner's score in Star Trek II is a great example of a follow up movie score within the same universe.
I think all of those movies use the Alexander Courage theme for the original series but they still have some original material of their own and that's what Elfman should have done if he wanted to use the old themes for Batman and Superman. He could have used those in some moments but also keeping some material from BvS and MoS and creating new themes for the new characters and the League.
  Thor - Ragnarok2017-11-20 16:34:14
Olive
What?! Did Mothersbaugh use a ghost writer?! he he he
  Justice League2017-11-20 16:30:22
Olive
This is a kind of Chappie mixed with Arcade of MoS.
  Feedback2017-11-20 16:28:21
Steffen Glombitza
Hallo,
ich hätte eine Frage zu "Man of Steel", Track 2: "Oil Rig".
Da ist bei meiner Kaufversion (Download bei google) eine Stimme zu hören bei Sekunde 17 Bevor der Beat losgeht. Es hört sich an wie eine Kinderstimme die "O...O..." ruft. Ich finde es witzig, wüsste aber gerne wie die Stimme da rein kommt.
War das Absicht, gibt es eine Story dazu, oder ist es eine Fehler in der Aufnahme?
Weiß jemand was dazu?

LG
  Blade Runner 20492017-11-20 14:38:23
john
cd may have been shipped but ups tracking refrence shows up nothing on there site anyone got an ideas at to why this may be many thanks
  Thor - Ragnarok2017-11-20 09:26:37
Medigo
The track is unreleased yeah, part of the movie's climax
chronologically it goes between Devils Anus and 'Asgard is a People'
  The Boss Baby2017-11-20 01:49:04
Mike (OTM)
The Sierra Leone track Andrew K posted (link below)...I almost wonder if that's how 2010s Zimmer would redo The Lion King. More bass, more minimalist, more Interstellar...but still with an African flare.
  Justice League2017-11-19 23:36:38
James
Horner and many others with Star Trek is a good example too.
  The Boss Baby2017-11-19 23:04:16
Mike (OTM)
Huh. Well, the music Andrew posted is nice.
  Justice League2017-11-19 20:39:49
Ahmad
"Don't believe everything you hear, son."
  Justice League2017-11-19 17:22:35
scarecrow9
what do you gyus think about this?

www . youtube.com/watch?v=9riigqWjovM
  Feedback2017-11-19 16:19:34
Andrzej Nieduzak
Hallo,

Der 'Gladiator' ist schon langsam in die Jahre gekommen, die Musik ist aber nicht älter geworden. Genial.

Gruß

  Thor - Ragnarok2017-11-19 15:25:09
MrZimmerFan
Not bad score.

But I prefer the other one
  Thor - Ragnarok2017-11-19 15:22:43
mpolonest123
Isn’t that ironic that DC is abandoning the continuity while Marvel is finally embracing it?

For any electronic fans out there, this score is definitely a must listen, there are some badass 80’s beats (with a dash of Tron legacy) in here.
  Thor - Ragnarok2017-11-19 14:03:05
Hybrid Soldier
I'm so mad at DC right now I'd rather promote Marvel !! lol


Well jokes aside I add cause Andrew worked on it. And btw he posted another 5 min cue on his Soundcloud, dunno if it's unreleased, there'll better specialists of that score than me !
  The Boss Baby2017-11-19 13:49:07
Hybrid Soldier
Yeah, I happen to have seen the film and the score is not really "coherent", it's more like many different cues put together...
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