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Right. Hopefully the other missing stuff gets released on the 2nd CD though.why does Amity say (traditional)?Just rip it off the DVD....no biggieAll credits added for the OST, even though since it's long montages from lots of cues, it doesn't make THAT much sense... :)Which cues were written by Steve Jablonsky?
me too!No piano. I believe it was mostly strings and had a small bit of the choir.Which instruments were used to play the love theme? Piano?<br>There was also a Jean/Scott love theme that was briefly used in the bedroom scene after they return from space. It was included in the end credits suite as well.CD RELEASE?
Yes! That piano part is amazing! <br>„when charles and jean stand in front of the school“Saw the movie. Great score and it really fits the movie.<br><br>Missing stuff:<br>- 25 seconds of a piano version of Gap without the brass and bells<br>- a 30 second badass version of the main theme during the mageneto/jean helicopter stand off<br>- 1.5 minute end credits suite. Typical Zimmer to leave the best and most epic track and best main theme version off the album. I hope it will be on CD2, but knowing Zimmer the best tracks always remain unreleased. This is another escape from ship...after listening and listening...this score is truly amazing! i love it so much! i want the suites and ideas NOW! :DWhere can I find this?been listening to this score for a week now and i am going to wait a little more before putting a comment on it here... but there's something else i have been saying for a while now. let's stop associating scores with movies and start seeing them as a work of art in their own rights. (albeit inspired by movies)<br><br>people are here complaining about the movie that it didn't speak to them. and then i have the feeling that they project their disappointment on the soundtrack. but both pieces of art co-exist and not depend on each other. i, for example, seldom watch any of these movies. but i have listened to their soundtracks and love them.<br><br>also i never asked for an extended CD before... but we need one for this one. it's very clear that tracks like gap and coda were definitely shortened.<br><br>also i never asked for an extended CD before but we need one for DP. it's clear that tracks like gap and coda were definitely shortened.
There's nothing unique about those choirs, standard East European chorus stuff mixed with Johansson. Check out Debbie Wiseman's Warriors from 2000 and you'll get a much more elaborate version of this music.I cant say that this chorus reminds me of anything I have heard Zimmer done before. And I have played all his scores to death.I agree that Gap is the best track. My main complain with this score is that it feels that Zimmer composed it on autopilot. For me those choirs sounded too much to Electro's Theme in TASM. Is too standard and has very few remarkable moments. The movie itself lacks of personality and the score is part of that problem. I think they just wanted "dark" and hired Zimmer for making his dark ostitatos.I thought I read somewhere Armageddon was the last bay film that hgw was a part of<br>===============================<br><br><br>Well, Bay and HGW were not exactly best friends during Armageddon. Bay is very demanding and tough. HGW is also not a shy dude. He is an opinionated guy who stands his ground, as you can tell by his interviews. He reminds me of Mancina…..He's not afraid to speak up and have his opinion heard. And just like Mancina, his relationship with the Bay/Bruckheimer family seemed to be...….a bit complicated. Yet, he worked on Bad Boys 2 and Deja Vu. Now, it is possible - tho not likely - that Bay didn't even know that HGW did some work on BB2. Maybe it was just a favor for Steve and Trevor. Under the table, so to speak..... Personally, I don't believe that's the case. Whatever the truth, this is a great example of how different those composers are. Trevor and Steve work great with Bay/Bruckheimer and they always deliver great results. While composers like HGW and Mancina have problems with more demanding filmmakers. And apparently they don't even like action cinema. I don't necessary blame them, even though Mancina certainly didn't do himself any favors by trashing the genre and the people who back in the 90's gave him a shot to prove himself as a composer.Love John Powell. But he is not even close to Williams. Williams made his mark on every genre of film scoring. He freaking turn a holocaust movie score into a masterpiece for the ages.<br><br>Today, that score would have been some generic sound design.<br><br>Powell is an incredibly gifted orchestral composer. But he doesn't have the dimensions of someone like Williams. <br><br>
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  Dark Phoenix2019-06-17 02:02:33
Zac
Right. Hopefully the other missing stuff gets released on the 2nd CD though.
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-17 01:46:18
Anonymous
why does Amity say (traditional)?
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-17 01:16:11
Meta
Just rip it off the DVD....no biggie
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-16 23:55:41
Hybrid Soldier
All credits added for the OST, even though since it's long montages from lots of cues, it doesn't make THAT much sense... :)
  The Replacement Killers2019-06-16 23:53:39
GermanRCPFan
Which cues were written by Steve Jablonsky?
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-16 22:10:01
nvictor
me too!
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-16 21:51:41
Zac
No piano. I believe it was mostly strings and had a small bit of the choir.
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-16 20:53:09
...
Which instruments were used to play the love theme? Piano?
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-16 20:37:05
Zac
There was also a Jean/Scott love theme that was briefly used in the bedroom scene after they return from space. It was included in the end credits suite as well.
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-16 18:12:56
maybe
CD RELEASE?
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-16 13:24:48
badbu
Yes! That piano part is amazing!
„when charles and jean stand in front of the school“
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-16 12:58:54
Anonymous
Saw the movie. Great score and it really fits the movie.

Missing stuff:
- 25 seconds of a piano version of Gap without the brass and bells
- a 30 second badass version of the main theme during the mageneto/jean helicopter stand off
- 1.5 minute end credits suite. Typical Zimmer to leave the best and most epic track and best main theme version off the album. I hope it will be on CD2, but knowing Zimmer the best tracks always remain unreleased. This is another escape from ship...
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-16 11:15:35
badbu
after listening and listening...this score is truly amazing! i love it so much! i want the suites and ideas NOW! :D
  How Do You Know (Complete Score)2019-06-14 19:08:39
Music lover
Where can I find this?
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-14 18:06:30
nvictor
been listening to this score for a week now and i am going to wait a little more before putting a comment on it here... but there's something else i have been saying for a while now. let's stop associating scores with movies and start seeing them as a work of art in their own rights. (albeit inspired by movies)

people are here complaining about the movie that it didn't speak to them. and then i have the feeling that they project their disappointment on the soundtrack. but both pieces of art co-exist and not depend on each other. i, for example, seldom watch any of these movies. but i have listened to their soundtracks and love them.

also i never asked for an extended CD before... but we need one for this one. it's very clear that tracks like gap and coda were definitely shortened.

also i never asked for an extended CD before but we need one for DP. it's clear that tracks like gap and coda were definitely shortened.
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-14 14:38:42
Choir
There's nothing unique about those choirs, standard East European chorus stuff mixed with Johansson. Check out Debbie Wiseman's Warriors from 2000 and you'll get a much more elaborate version of this music.
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-14 11:07:08
Medigo
I cant say that this chorus reminds me of anything I have heard Zimmer done before. And I have played all his scores to death.
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-14 10:28:34
AFan
I agree that Gap is the best track. My main complain with this score is that it feels that Zimmer composed it on autopilot. For me those choirs sounded too much to Electro's Theme in TASM. Is too standard and has very few remarkable moments. The movie itself lacks of personality and the score is part of that problem. I think they just wanted "dark" and hired Zimmer for making his dark ostitatos.
  Bad Boys II (Complete Score)2019-06-14 08:41:02
Bayhem
I thought I read somewhere Armageddon was the last bay film that hgw was a part of
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Well, Bay and HGW were not exactly best friends during Armageddon. Bay is very demanding and tough. HGW is also not a shy dude. He is an opinionated guy who stands his ground, as you can tell by his interviews. He reminds me of Mancina…..He's not afraid to speak up and have his opinion heard. And just like Mancina, his relationship with the Bay/Bruckheimer family seemed to be...….a bit complicated. Yet, he worked on Bad Boys 2 and Deja Vu. Now, it is possible - tho not likely - that Bay didn't even know that HGW did some work on BB2. Maybe it was just a favor for Steve and Trevor. Under the table, so to speak..... Personally, I don't believe that's the case. Whatever the truth, this is a great example of how different those composers are. Trevor and Steve work great with Bay/Bruckheimer and they always deliver great results. While composers like HGW and Mancina have problems with more demanding filmmakers. And apparently they don't even like action cinema. I don't necessary blame them, even though Mancina certainly didn't do himself any favors by trashing the genre and the people who back in the 90's gave him a shot to prove himself as a composer.
  How To Train Your Dragon - The Hidden World2019-06-14 06:40:37
Mephariel
Love John Powell. But he is not even close to Williams. Williams made his mark on every genre of film scoring. He freaking turn a holocaust movie score into a masterpiece for the ages.

Today, that score would have been some generic sound design.

Powell is an incredibly gifted orchestral composer. But he doesn't have the dimensions of someone like Williams.

  Madagascar - Escape 2 Africa2019-06-14 04:03:05
Dillon Patterson
You fools, the tracklist was but a scam. The tracks simply wanted to EAT you.
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-14 02:00:33
Ian Brown McCarthy
Yeah, while this does have a great deal more substance than most of the work Hans has done the past few years, I struggle to say it's a genuinely *good* score.

I mean, within the first minute I'm reminded of Dunkirk, then we get a pretty standard Zimmer/Balfe buildup we've heard a million times since Inception... and it doesn't get hugely better from there.

I will definitely give Zimmer credit for the unique and genuinely creative use of female choir in some of the cues, though.
  Solo - A Star Wars Story2019-06-14 01:56:27
Ian Brown McCarthy
Not to disagree for its own sake, but I think Powell has been up there with the greatest film composers since the first HTTYD score. I just wish he'd take on more projects.
  How To Train Your Dragon - The Hidden World2019-06-14 01:54:11
Ian Brown McCarthy
Yeah, Jesus. This is a prime example of why I'm tempted to think John Powell is more talented than even Williams (yes, I went there).
  How To Train Your Dragon - The Hidden World2019-06-14 00:36:31
Edmund Meinerts
There's so, so many great themes in the HTTYD scores. And he almost never lets a moment go by where he isn't stating or restating or developing one or more of them (although honestly that's true of a ton of Powell's scores and not an exclusive feature of HTTYD). You can never get bored listening to these, there's always something interesting around the next corner.
  Bad Boys II (Complete Score)2019-06-14 00:12:34
Mr Tweedy
I got confirmation HGW only wrote Haitian House Shootout (with the help of Mel Wesson). The same ideas were edited into the shorter cue Zoepound, so I'd say you can add this one to his credits.

Credits on IMDB mentions Paul Linford on the Main Titles.

Trevor Morris helped Jablonsky on the Ferrari Causeway Chase.
Jablonsky worked, for sure, on the Hallway and Helicopter Inserts.

100% sure Rabin worked on Tapia, Tapia Pissed Off, The Stuff, Wiretap Results, Ocean, Dead Bodies #2, Heart to Heart, Breaking Into Mortuary, Syd's Cover Is Blown, Tapia Has Syd (without Inserts), Prep for Tapia Sneak, Cuba Chase, Guantanamo (those tracks are on the Rabin only-bootleg).
  FILM.MUSIC.MEDIA ALL ACCESS - MATTHEW MARGESON2019-06-13 23:55:23
Andeas
Hoping for the Rocketman score to get a release. Loved the score in the movie. Any updates on this ?
  How To Train Your Dragon - The Hidden World2019-06-13 23:27:06
superultramegaa
Additionally, for anyone interested, I've managed to come up with a final list of themes from the series that I believe to be mostly accurate.

HTTYD 1: Hiccup & Toothless, The Friendship ostinato, Viking Theme, Viking "B" Theme, Dragons, Berk, The Dragon Tamer (Hiccup's unique qualities), Vikings & Dragons, Astrid

HTTYD 2: Loss, Exploration/Hiccup's Maturance, Drago, Hiccup & Valka, The Alpha, Stoick & Valka, The Chief

HTTYD 3: The Furies ostinato, Love, The Dragon Liberators, Moving On, The Hidden World, Toothless & The Light Fury, Grimmel, Dragon Trappers

A list more impressive than Star Wars, and with almost every new theme returning for the next film, while keeping most of the base themes. A masterful achievement by John Powell and his crew, as others have said!
  Solo - A Star Wars Story2019-06-13 23:08:14
superultramegaa
Just finished watching the movie, and while it's not much more than fine, it's sure as hell better than every other Star Wars movie that's come out since The Force Awakens (minus the ugly fucking visuals).

However the score is absolutely amazing. Powell's adaptation and development of the new Han Solo theme from Williams is flawless, the callbacks to other themes from the series are mostly appropriate (and good on him for not using the Force theme once!) and Powell's original material is fresh and exciting in a way that even Williams himself hasn't been able to pull off with the new films.

Powell might very well be up there with the greatest film composers if he continues to produce work like this from now on (which from HTTYD 3 seems very possible!)
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-13 18:52:07
Michael Baker
Some of the synth work throughout is definitely like Spirit. The first couple minutes of Coda are one example.
  Bad Boys II (Complete Score)2019-06-13 18:33:36
GermanRCPFan
It's only suggestions based on about few dozen listened scores of those composers.
By the way known that HGW was part of it.
  Bad Boys II (Complete Score)2019-06-13 18:08:24
Inquisitor
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa time out. I thought I read somewhere Armageddon was the last bay film that hgw was a part of. because his material never made it to the OST it was all Trevor Rabin only. maybe I read that in the Armageddon page?
  Bad Boys II (Complete Score)2019-06-13 14:47:48
GermanRCPFan
Hybrid, do you know exactly who did what?
I have a few guesses:

1) Main Titles is by Trevor Rabin

2) Swamp Shootout is by Trevor Rabin & Harry Gregson-Williams

3) Zoepound is by Toby Chu

4) Ambush / Miami Streets Chase and Dead Bodies (Part 1) is by Trevor Rabin and HGW (simular to Trevor Rabin and HGW styles)

5) Intersection Shootout is by Harry Gregson Williams & Mel Wesson and Toby Chu (parts from "Target House" which is by HGW & Mel Wesson and Toby Chu)

6) Ferrari Causeway Chase is definetly by Steve Jablonsky & Trevor Morris and Clay Duncan (because the lattest score "Island" has very simular cue ("Mass Vehicular Carnage Pt. 3 - Train Wheels"), which is credited to Steve Jablonsky and Trevor Morris; the beginning of film version of "Humvee Chase" (from "Deja vu") has simular percussion (credited to HGW and Clay Duncan))

7) Haitian House Shootout is by Harry Gregson-Williams & Toby Chu (because it's HGW style cue)

8) Tapia Has Syd (Helicopter Insert 1) is by Steve Jablonsky

9) Dixie 7 (Part 1) is by Steve Jablonsky (has simular parts from "Tapia Has Syd (Helicopter Insert 1)")

10)Dead Bodies (Part 2) and Cuba Chase is by Trevor Rabin & Tim Heintz (close to Tim Heintz style at the second part of tracks)

11) Mortuary Groove is by Trevor Rabin & Steve Jablonsky and Snoop Dogg

12) Tapia Has Syd is by Trevor Rabin & Steve Jablonsky

13) Target House is by HGW & Mel Wesson and Toby Chu

14) End Credits (Part 1) is by Steve Jablonsky & Trevor Morris and Clay Duncan (rip-off from Ferrari Causeway Chase)

14) Cues like Tapia, Tapia Pissed Off, Ocean, End Credits (Part 2) is by Trevor Rabin & Heitor Pereira (because it have "Tapia's Theme" is by Heitor Pereira)

And there is few missing cues (between Swamp / KKK and Swamp Shootout is cue by HGW, between The Stuff (Part 1) and The Stuff (Part 2))
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-13 13:30:55
Ds
I'm curious... where did you hear Spirit?
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-13 12:32:23
Spor
Ah, maybe it's not that bad. Gap is fantastic for the first two minutes. There's some nice stuff in the other tracks. But this is so derivative. Everything outside of Gap comes from somewhere else, Da Vinci Code, Interstellar, even older Hans like frigging Pacific Heigths and Spirit.

It's not a bad score but it sure is a massively overwhelmingly disappointing one. So Kinsberg wanted something progressive/conservative and fucked up his film and Hans went back to the 1990s to get some inspiration? Sounds plausible.

  Transformers (Complete Score)2019-06-13 11:16:09
Random guy
And how can I get that score?
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-13 09:26:26
Collector
Seen the film last Friday, its definitely not as bad as they are saying it is. Not very good either, but a solid average. Loved the score! Works really well in the film, I need to give it a thorough listen tho. Been listening since Friday and Im only on track three now, but enjoying the hell out of it so far. Thank you Mr. Zimmer!
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-13 00:01:12
Anonymous
Vinyl?
  The Boss Baby2019-06-12 22:46:15
Iamtommie44
What's going on with that Spongebob movie.
Zimmer is scoring it and now Cyndi Lauper ia writing songs for it.
This is insane!!
  Trial By Fire2019-06-12 20:06:00
Mr.Unbreakable
I agree, do you think Johann Johansson was involved before he died?
  How To Train Your Dragon - The Hidden World2019-06-12 20:02:12
superultramegaa
Got to agree. The score for this series is polished, precise, emotional, technically proficient, and thematically rich. Not much else this year has been anywhere close to the level of quality in The Hidden World.

Sadly though, I don't see either Lion King or Star Wars 9 beating this score. From the look of the trailer, Lion King's music is probably just going to be on repeat with a few additional original tracks here and there, and the new Star Wars trilogy is plagued with temp tracks, and uninteresting progression.
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-12 20:02:10
Mr.Unbreakable
I know it's a lot to ask, but @Hybrid thinks you could put the credits of Mazzaro and Fleming?
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-12 19:25:52
mpolonest123
That’s great to hear, if it is digital that means a faster release hopefully :-)
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-12 19:24:33
badbu
i can‘t wait!!!! :))
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-12 18:46:00
Hybrid Soldier
Digitally, sure. Physically, maaaayybe ?
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-12 18:24:57
mpolonest123
@hybrid
Do you know if the bonus music is exclusively for the physical release or will it also be released digitally?
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-12 13:35:21
Jordan
Very happy that the 2CD edition is still in works and not canceled !
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-12 13:21:44
Hybrid Soldier
It's in the works.
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-12 13:01:33
Topic
Even though I agree with the previous poster - would love to hear what Hans came up originally - but sadly a lot of this sounds like copying Interstellar (when it's good) and Dunkirk (when it's totally useless). Hans is not a man to innovate from score to score, so if all sounds like previous work?
  Dark Phoenix2019-06-12 12:43:11
Morgan Joylighter
I hope the box office results don't discourage them from releasing the 2CD album. There are so many great ideas in this score that I'm dying to hear further development in suites.
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