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Edmund ! For YOU !! lolthis one is my pick for the oscar as well. hope it wins : )When will this tracklist be leaked?I heard and thought that Zimmer stopt scoring superhero movies (including Justice League and what comes after) because it has taken 13 years of his life and he wanted to do something elseWere the two men no longer talking or did Zimmer anticipate Snyder's departure as he did in Pirates?
@Olive: Rumors says Zimmer didn't want compose Justice League because of Snyder, and left behind JunkieI agree that Elfman's theme fits into Nolan's films as long as they are adapted to them. However, I think the way things have gone was not bad. TDK trilogy was marked as a project fruit of Nolan's unique vision. Although the themes do not respect the orchestral tradition are more memorable than those composed for more than half of the films of heroes of the last 25 years.Zimmer's entry into the genre can be interpreted as a breath of fresh air in a saturated marketplace at the time. But I agree that the lack of originality these days falls on Zimmer and his company and that the goal of it goes far beyond bringing talents to light.Now we need something new, again.@Hybrid any news on Season 2 soundtrack release?Of cause Balfe worked on it !!! His whole team are credited !!!!!!!Honestly, the purpose of RCP is essentially to take Zimmer's style and make it widespread for use...WB not using ANY RCP to score this seems to have been deliberate, as there's literally no reason it couldn't be done.
^ hahaha :D<br><br>I think you're forgetting that Balfe also ghostwrote The Lord of the Rings?They're starting to send screeners. Finger crossed for the FYC :DThe score reflects the situation of DC movies very well. If Zimmer, like Snyder, continued, the result may not please everyone. A lot of people were unhappy with Snyder's work in the genre, just as many fans of soundtrack were with Zimmer's contributions that never followed the path taken by all the other composers who came before him.<br><br>The two left (regardless of the reason that led them to do this).<br><br>When Zimmer left everyone knew that XL would not hold the pressure or that the result would not be satisfactory for most.<br><br>When Elfman and Whedon were announced we all knew that they were hired to go against everything DC has done before to try to reach the first film of the franchise to reach 1 billion. Even if they were to follow Marvel's script and drop their originality.<br><br>But the hiring of Elfman and Whedon shows that the studio was long lost. Snyder succumbed to BvS. The only salvation for the DCEU are the solo films like Wonder Woman, the next Batman, Aquaman ...and freedom. Freedom for the directors, composers... Warner has always had this advantage over Marvel.@Edmund <br>Given the chance I think Junkie probably could deliver a pretty fun score that stayed thematically consistent with the current universe. It all depends on what the studio/director wants out of the music. The biggest disappointment to me is that this was a huge missed opportunity to do a heroic take on Zimmerís Superman theme, something we havenít heard since MoS. Hell, even the trailers did that.... -_-rumor has it Lorne Balfe did this score<br><br>I guess if we do not get any credits then that proves it<br>======================================<br><br>Oh, absolutely! I'm sure we will soon find out that Balfe also scored Star Wars and Titanic. And Harry Potter. And Indiana Jones.
Edmund, I somewhat agree - I've seen very little from Junkie to make me think this would have been a groundbreaking, wonderful score. However, maybe it's the Zimmer fan in me, but I would have loved to hear "stock, barely-altered reprises of Zimmer's themes all over the place" in this score. So many scenes begged for just that. Compositionally it doesn't make for an interesting soundtrack or film score, I agree, but I would be willing to sacrifice that for thematic continuity.I certainly understand the criticisms leveled at Elfman's JL score, but I'm not at all convinced Junkie would have been a better option. I've never been too convinced by him anyway (Mad Max was a situation where his sound happened to be a good fit, but even then I think a better composer could have made much more out of the same ingredients). And since anything worthwhile in the previous two (and yeah, I'm aware I like MoS and BvS waaaaaaaay less than the average reader of this site) ended up being by Hans anyway, I really doubt Junkie flying solo would have been up to much. My guess is he would have pulled out stock, barely-altered reprises of Zimmer's themes all over the place without adding much new material on his own, which would have satisfied the DC fans more than what Elfman did, sure, but would have been a lot less interesting as a score album. I mean, say what you want about the questionable thematic decisions Elfman made, the two gigantic full-length action cues are pretty solid in and of themselves. I'll take that over Junkie letting the drums pound for eleven minutes straight, any day of the week.The studio is the music owner now.There you go. So we probably will never get to hear what Tom planned/did for this movie. I really believe that it would've been great compared to the generic score we got. <br>Only two tracks stood out to me and only one was an actual cue from the movie.Gabriel Yared leaked his Troy back in 2004 but I think he got in quite a lot of trouble for that. There's a reason he hasn't done too many high profile films since then, I think. A few rejecteds have slipped out over the years but it's pretty unheard of for the composer himself to be the one to leak it I think, that would be career suicide if they got caught. Usually they come out the same way complete scores do, some anonymous person working on the scoring team probably did it.
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  2017, March 02  updated by Hybrid Soldier
PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN - DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES (TRAILER) - MUSIC BY GEOFF ZANELLI






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mpolonest123 reply Replies: 5 || 2017-03-07 01:52:52
I am so INSANELY excited for this, having grown up on the Pirate scores. If anyone can write music on the level of Hans, it's Geoff. Hopefully there is a cue on the level of the William Tell Finale from Lone Ranger.

In regards to returning themes, I hope the "Marry Me" theme returns in some form (considering that Orlando Bloom is returning)


David2017-03-07 02:16:01
But Keira Knightley'l isn't so it doesn't make sense to :(


arrangement2017-03-07 02:31:03
People under-estimate just how good Hans is at coming up with catchy ideas. Arrangement is a very different skill.

Hopefully GZ delivers the goods!


Agent2017-03-07 03:48:10
I agree. Hans Zimmer has written, perhaps, the best themes in film and game music history.


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-07 15:58:41
Film history - eh, it's debatable, I guess. I still think Williams has Zimmer beat for greatest themes, but I won't argue that Zimmer has done very, very well for himself there.

Game music history - yeah, no way.


rockhound2017-03-18 08:21:25
i would say, williams wrote some of the most iconic themes in film history, but not the greatest. i think there are alot of composers, who have written great themes. zimmers Backdraft theme for example is the best firefighter theme in film history and its not worse than any other williams theme. or zimmers The Burning Bush theme from The Prince Of Egypt. and there are countless other examples also for others composers.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 12 || 2017-03-02 19:10:34
Can't wait ! It's getting closer !!


Dimitris Krommidas2017-03-03 02:43:22
Yes!


Waymann2017-03-03 08:36:30
I'm having faith in Geoff Zanelli. But hopefully the score is gonna be a good release. Not those shit albums with remixes and with just 30% of actual music from the movie, leaving all the best parts out.


Agent2017-03-03 14:09:35
I hope for a good album release.


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-03 14:27:20
Well, the album for On Stranger Tides was only that way in an attempt to hide how much of that score was rehash...so as long as this score is *not* just rehash (while still keeping enough references to the old Pirates music we all love), we can assume that the album release will be OK as well.


Waymann2017-03-03 16:13:02
Rehash or not, I want the score as it sounds in the movie... It says "Original Motion Picture Soundtrack" on the cover for some reason right ?


Oscarailbo2017-03-03 17:07:34
Anyone knows if that ghosting lullaby at the beginning is from Zanelli ?


Joshua2017-03-04 00:47:20
The Lullaby is Drunken Whaler from the video game Dishonored. They just changed Whaler to Pirate.
h t t p s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urV8MIcLDFk


Brent2017-03-04 09:24:36
I seriously couldn't be more excited about this. I hope to God Geoff delivers the goods. And I believe he will. :)


isildur2017-03-06 06:26:48
I've very high expectations on this. Hopefully Geoff knocks it out of the park.


Waymann2017-03-06 08:06:44
That lullaby sounded more like "What Shall We Do With The Drunken Sailor?"


Anonymous2017-03-06 09:44:48
That's because is IS. It's just an arrangement of Drunken Sailor.


Scorefan2017-03-06 17:29:59
Well, if Hybrid is excited for Geoff's score, i think is gonna be great, maybe more than Badelt/Zimmer previous score.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-06 17:02:27
Whatever Geoff ends up doing for this, I hope it's better than the flat, generic trailer music version of He's a Pirate we are hearing here...

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