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Wow! Stephen Barton worked on a lot of the important cues here, huh?I'm with Edmund in that I'd love for Hans to win more Oscars, but not this score. I feel like even Blade Runner 2049 is more deserving of an award than this. Sure, it works great in the film, but that shouldn't be reason enough for an Oscar. I feel like Desplat's nominated score is more deserving than this one. <br><br>"But this one has a unique sound and recording!"<br><br>Okay... a lot of scores have that. A lot of Zimmer's work has that. Doesn't make them all masterpieces.<br><br>"But we have to spite those evil reviewers who hate this score!"<br><br>Why do you let their opinion get in the way of your enjoyment? If you love it enough, the critics' opinions should only make you enjoy it more because you see something in it they don't. <br><br>I agree with George in that Hans needs to go back to a melodic sound. I don't think whether this score wins or not will change Hans' mind on that, but I do want his next Oscar winner to mean something other than, "Oh cool! I won this award because I made weird sounds!" (Which by the way, involves things like programming and a lot of other technical adjustments that have nothing to do with Hans' composing ability)."The thing that I'm proudest about Dunkirk is you can't separate it from the film."<br>- Hans Zimmer, GQI understand, but it does not make sense.<br>You're arguing that the score for a movie released in January this year was produced before of the score of a movie that went to theaters in July. If Balfe started working on "12 strong" a year before the movie release, the same can be said of Dunkirk. It is easy to infer that the Dunkirk's score has been working since the middle of 2016! Or even before, because of the tours that Zimmer has done.<br>The music/sound design, even being simple, was not made and recorded between January and May of last year.Olive  that is when it was announced !!! Not when he did it
Balfe's hiring came out in May, when Dunkirk's production was already at the end. No contest.<br><br><br>filmmusicreporter.  com/ <br> 2017/05/24/lorne-balfe-to-score-horse-soldiers/Hans finished the bulk of the score before he went on tour, you could find an interview where he himself says so. <br>Ben worked solely on Variation 15. <br>Scroll down on this page and you'll find the full cuesheet with the credits. <br>Edmund - how do you think Zimmer wrote Dunkirk when he was on a world tour !!!Congratulations to Ben, Lorne also .Edmund - the release dates do not matter . Check out Balfe’s Facebook page and you will see he was recording 12 Strong early last year .I've only heard the suite Hybrid made. The only similarity I was aware of is the siren-like sound. <br><br>People don't realize how difficult scoring Dunkirk was. Just because you love Interstellar (I do too - it's my favorite HZ score) but that doesn't mean Dunkirk doesn't deserve to win. <br>
Edmund, in all honesty what are the similarities between 12 Strong and Dunkirk? I know both scores and fail to see how they connect.Doesn't deserve an Oscar. Hans Zimmer is my favorite composer but if he didn't win for Interstellar, he shouldn't win for this. <br><br>I can seriously say that I object this score winning based on that principle. This winning over Interstellar just isn't right.Well, the credits say that Supermarine or the oil are pure Zimmer, and also the 3 first track I think. So Balfe helped him to develop some ideas during his tour but the majority of the score is Hans' work.<br>And it does deserve an Oscar. I never heard a score like that.. If you have a problem with the score I think it comes from the script. A classical melodical music wouldn t work for this film i think.Source? I find that hard to believe considering the release dates. Even if it is true, Balfe might have been concurrently working on Dunkirk and brought over some of the ideas. I find it spectacularly improbably that he and Hans just HAPPENED to come up with the same ideas at the same time.Edmund - gets you facts right please . 12 Strong was written before Dunkirk
Here's an interesting opinion: I want Hans to win this one so that he DOESN'T continue making music like this. Sure its functional, but if he could reinvent the melodic score again and get back to writing memorable melodies I'd be pretty happy. He won for Lion King and then essentially abandoned that tone of music which transitioned into the Crimson Tide/The Rock sound... so maybe, just maybe, if he wins this year he'll completely reinvent his sound again and give us something both melodically memorable but also be a total game changer in terms of modern scores.I hope it doesn't win if for no other reason than so we don't have to go through 5 years of Dunkirk temp tracks (although if 12 Strong is anything to go by, too late).@Ahmad i only need "The Oil (Film Version)" :D Then i'll be happy :D*That was a thumbs up but it didn't work :D<br><br>^This how I feel lol.I hope Dunkirk wins just to make the so-called "reviewers" and those who say it isn't music, more frustrated and annoyed.
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  2017, March 02  updated by Hybrid Soldier
PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN - DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES (TRAILER) - MUSIC BY GEOFF ZANELLI






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mpolonest123 reply Replies: 5 || 2017-03-07 01:52:52
I am so INSANELY excited for this, having grown up on the Pirate scores. If anyone can write music on the level of Hans, it's Geoff. Hopefully there is a cue on the level of the William Tell Finale from Lone Ranger.

In regards to returning themes, I hope the "Marry Me" theme returns in some form (considering that Orlando Bloom is returning)


David2017-03-07 02:16:01
But Keira Knightley'l isn't so it doesn't make sense to :(


arrangement2017-03-07 02:31:03
People under-estimate just how good Hans is at coming up with catchy ideas. Arrangement is a very different skill.

Hopefully GZ delivers the goods!


Agent2017-03-07 03:48:10
I agree. Hans Zimmer has written, perhaps, the best themes in film and game music history.


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-07 15:58:41
Film history - eh, it's debatable, I guess. I still think Williams has Zimmer beat for greatest themes, but I won't argue that Zimmer has done very, very well for himself there.

Game music history - yeah, no way.


rockhound2017-03-18 08:21:25
i would say, williams wrote some of the most iconic themes in film history, but not the greatest. i think there are alot of composers, who have written great themes. zimmers Backdraft theme for example is the best firefighter theme in film history and its not worse than any other williams theme. or zimmers The Burning Bush theme from The Prince Of Egypt. and there are countless other examples also for others composers.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 12 || 2017-03-02 19:10:34
Can't wait ! It's getting closer !!


Dimitris Krommidas2017-03-03 02:43:22
Yes!


Waymann2017-03-03 08:36:30
I'm having faith in Geoff Zanelli. But hopefully the score is gonna be a good release. Not those shit albums with remixes and with just 30% of actual music from the movie, leaving all the best parts out.


Agent2017-03-03 14:09:35
I hope for a good album release.


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-03 14:27:20
Well, the album for On Stranger Tides was only that way in an attempt to hide how much of that score was rehash...so as long as this score is *not* just rehash (while still keeping enough references to the old Pirates music we all love), we can assume that the album release will be OK as well.


Waymann2017-03-03 16:13:02
Rehash or not, I want the score as it sounds in the movie... It says "Original Motion Picture Soundtrack" on the cover for some reason right ?


Oscarailbo2017-03-03 17:07:34
Anyone knows if that ghosting lullaby at the beginning is from Zanelli ?


Joshua2017-03-04 00:47:20
The Lullaby is Drunken Whaler from the video game Dishonored. They just changed Whaler to Pirate.
h t t p s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urV8MIcLDFk


Brent2017-03-04 09:24:36
I seriously couldn't be more excited about this. I hope to God Geoff delivers the goods. And I believe he will. :)


isildur2017-03-06 06:26:48
I've very high expectations on this. Hopefully Geoff knocks it out of the park.


Waymann2017-03-06 08:06:44
That lullaby sounded more like "What Shall We Do With The Drunken Sailor?"


Anonymous2017-03-06 09:44:48
That's because is IS. It's just an arrangement of Drunken Sailor.


Scorefan2017-03-06 17:29:59
Well, if Hybrid is excited for Geoff's score, i think is gonna be great, maybe more than Badelt/Zimmer previous score.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-06 17:02:27
Whatever Geoff ends up doing for this, I hope it's better than the flat, generic trailer music version of He's a Pirate we are hearing here...

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