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About his studio at RCP, is it rental or he owns the stuff? What happens to the gear when he is not around?That is probably the fairest thing anyone on this website will say about Clemmensen. :P@Anonymous<br><br>Christian Clemmensen believes that Hans Zimmer found his definitive voice back in the 1990s with scores such as Driving Miss Daisy, Rain Man, Crimson Tide, and Lion King. However, he has in reviews of later scores compared Zimmer's overly obvious chord progressions and masculinity with what the "rock ballad" did to rock-n'roll music of the '70s. To him, it's overly powerful, unsubtle, and aggressive music that appeals to the gut more than the heart or the mind. Some of Zimmer's most popular scores such as Gladiator, Pirates, and The Dark Knight he has given middling reviews for because the general sound is derivative from his earlier works, not colorful, and not creative. He also accuses Zimmer of starting a trend with overly-recycled, bombastic, masculine action music that's big on density and power and low on subtlety and personality. <br><br>I can definitely see where he's coming from, one cannot deny the similarities between Crimson Tide, Lion King, Gladiator, Pirates, Dark Knight and so forth. One also cannot deny that scores such as Dunkirk and Blade Runner 2049 qualify more as sound design than actual symphonic music (mostly). However, if he had his way, every film score would be shamelessly optimistic and flighty, all major chords (and occasionally alternating off-key), with prominent woodwinds and metallic percussion. He definitely knows what he's talking about, but he has an ideal image for film music in mind, and that very much comes through in his Zimmer reviews, some of which I think deserve much more credit than he offered (Pirates 3, Da Vinci Code, and Gladiator come to mind).a more orchestral fury roadTom is gonna score Mortal Engines<br>What kind of sound do you expect?
He has a studio at RCP but mostly work from his own home studio. His business is "Sacred Tiger Music."<br>Does Henry actually work for HZ at RCP or does he have his own film score company now like HGW?Why filmtracks always behave very Aggressive about hans zimmer and always trys to make his scores worthless ??!! Its odd for meAw Hell...<br><br>I guess it never did freeze over.Sorry, I should've been more specific. This is a comment I had originally posted on the Filmtracks forum, NOT from a Christian Clemmensen review. My bad.
Referring to the previous comment (how did it not reply to the the previous message?)That's not the actual review. The length is a pretty big giveaway. Also, I'm fairly certain he's still given some RCP efforts some good scores.WOW....color me impressed at Filmtracks. I thought that site was anti-Zimmer in all aspects far, wide, near and dear.Copied from Filmtracks:<br><br>Excellent score - a little slow in the middle third*, but some really stirring fantasy-adventure elsewhere. "The Internet" is Cue of the Year material. Although it's odd how little synth there is here, particularly in the finale, where the orchestra seems to completely take over; this isn't too bad of a thing because Jackman's orchestral skills are downright breathtaking at times. The references to other Disney scores/musicals (yes, including Star Wars) left a big dumb grin on my face.<br><br>*I get the sense that this movie might be too long (1 hour and 52 minutes).No you're not. I think Jackman has made some great score over the last through years.<br>And I think this is one of them. Both tracks with or without electronics
So I guess I'm the only one who likes less-electronic-Henry?Henry has been removing electronics for 4 years now...Listen to<br><br>A Big Strong Man In Need Of Rescuing.<br><br>That whole track is a damn easter eggI haven't seen the movie yet but I like the score more with each listen. Not a classic Zimmer by any means but still an enjoyable listen at its short running time. Looking forward to the movie as well.This is me or Henry Jackman removed the electronics this year it could be affect to the predator score because I was thinking about the predator score affect him to remove electronics and turned serious & dramatic. That's weird when Henry Jackman used a lot electronics & fun since 2009 to 2017 with his scores.
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  2018, August 22  updated by Hybrid Soldier
HANS ZIMMER TO SCORE WONDER WOMAN 1984



Hans Zimmer has signed on to score Wonder Woman 1984. Patty Jenkins returns to direct Gal Gadot as the titular hero. Hans first scored the character in Zack Snyder's Batman V Superman - Dawn Of Justice back in 2016, giving Wonder Woman her now iconic theme. Rupert Gregson-Williams, Hans's longtime collaborator, scored the first Wonder Woman film in 2017. Wonder Woman 1984 will be released by Warner Bros. Pictures on November 1, 2019.





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a Chinese fan reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-29 11:12:43
Hey,master,when will you come to China?If you come,I think within 10 km radius of the recital hall will be your fans,we're thirsty!!!!!Come on,Hans,come to China and save your Chinese fans!!!

iamtommie reply Replies: 4 || 2018-08-24 14:46:30
Why are there so many people angry at Hans for scoring superhero movies again.
Averybody says something sometimes that they change later for whatever reason. We don't know what the reason is he's scoring X-Men & WW.

I personally think it's great that Hans is scoring superhero movies and beside that The Lion King and Widows. I think these four scores are going to be great.


mpolonest1232018-08-24 15:04:33
I fully agree. But I do want to see Zimmer actually write a fun and energetic superhero score, much like he did with TASM2 and portions of MoS (and even Megamind if you want to count that). We’ve seen Zimmer tackle the “darker” tone plenty of times with BvS and the Nolan trilogy.

Personally I did not like Batman v Superman, and frankly I’m glad to see the trend of overly serious, self-important superhero films go away. There will never be another franchise like Nolan’s.


mpolonest1232018-08-24 15:05:40
And as for the score *most likely* being analog synth, I think it could make for some fun music. Like a less abrasive version of Chappie...


superultramegaa2018-08-24 15:50:26
Well, just speaking for myself, I don't think Hans has it in him anymore. The Dark Knight Trilogy was well done, the little work he did in TASM 2 was pretty fun, BvS was a mixed bag, and his career has gone downhill along with his track record for superhero films.

I fully believe he had the most stress with BvS. You can hear it in the music. He just can't get a really great track in there. He's trying to make a new Batman theme but it's just a slightly re-arranged version of the "Batman Rising" theme from Batman Begins, boy choir and all. His Superman theme didn't feel any different in tone to his Batman theme, and the other themes (including Wonder Woman's) were kind of mixed bags themselves.

Of course I'd like to be proven wrong, but it's probably just going to be really cheesy and unpleasant to listen to synths with no orchestra in sight (IMO Wonder Woman's theme should be primarily orchestral because of her age and history), and the electric guitar/cello version of the main theme will be repeated ad nauseam. Very rarely in the past 2 years as he been able to reproduce anything close to how his career used to be.


mpolonest1232018-08-24 16:05:11
@superultramega
But that is your personal tastes. I get not liking synths/electronics, so this probably wouldn’t work for you. But for someone who does enjoy that style of music, I am pretty excited. It all comes down to personal preference.
And in the past few years you still have Interstellar, TASM2, Hidden Figures, KFP3, Chappie, Boss Baby, etc. I think Hans has still “got it” ;-)

But as for BvS, I do agree. Everything feels so uninspired. After MoS built up Superman’s theme, it gets completely downplayed. Even the action cues feel so lifeless overly processed. I feel like this was more on Snyder than Hans though. I wouldn’t be surprised if his “retirement” was an excuse not to do Justice League.

badbu reply Replies: 1 || 2018-08-24 08:30:50
Hans: i'm done with superheroes movies...ah okay...
i need a orchestral score now!!!


dirty_score2018-08-24 10:44:23
Since this is 1984, you can expect more like a synth sound which is not necessarily a bad thing... maybe a throwback to his old days..

Olive reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-24 03:45:34
Yeah! Come back, Hans!

nvictor reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-23 16:19:09
not doing superheroes anymore? yea right : ]

clearly doing it for the ladies, in my humble opinion. and it's okay and fine. all that happened in hollywood cost dunkirk the best score award. dunkirk didn't get the award because people were not happy with hollywood. that's what i think happened.

NTNB reply Replies: 4 || 2018-08-22 22:52:48
Interesting. Makes me wonder why he didn’t score the first one. Busy with the tour? Clearly not retiring from superheros.

What’s even more interesting, why did he opt-out from Justice League?


Hybrid Soldier2018-08-22 23:05:05
He was, in fact, in the middle of the tour when WW 1 was done...


Mike2018-08-22 23:10:09
Do you think Hans would have scored Justice League if not for the tour?


Hybrid Soldier2018-08-22 23:16:18
Hard to say. I don't think so. I think he really wanted it to be Junkie's moment. I'm sure he would have helped if needed though. Under other circumstances...


Bill Koufo2018-08-23 07:19:05
Maybe the first Wonder Woman was the "amazing script" that Hans was talking about and that would bring him back to the genre. He made that statement in the beginning of 2017 I think, so I guess they asked him to score the movie and he gave it to RGW, because of the tour.

Mephariel reply Replies: 12 || 2018-08-22 23:18:59
I think he knew Justice League would suck big time.

Hybrid, is Hans done with The Lion King yet? I would imagine he has to be working on Dark Phoenix soon right?


Hybrid Soldier2018-08-22 23:26:11
Widows is completed.

TLK is under way and a long process due to the nature of the film (animation, songs etc.).

X Men, he's been working on that for a long time. But since the film seems to be under heavy reshoots all the time, he doesn't even know when the whole thing is gonna be finished (it will have to, at some point ! lol).


...2018-08-22 23:32:04
Did HZ consider POTC5 and decide not to do it because of the tour?


Hybrid Soldier2018-08-22 23:35:39
Never, he closed the POTC door right after POTC 4...


...2018-08-22 23:36:59
Okay. It's too bad how it turned out. They might make a 6th movie as well.


Mephariel2018-08-22 23:44:34
I kind of wish Zimmer would come back for POTC6 just to close the whole thing out. But I think there is no chance at this point.


...2018-08-22 23:47:00
+1


Mike2018-08-22 23:56:06
Eh, if Powell could come back for Jason Bourne, I feel like anything is possible...


Scorefan2018-08-23 00:09:31
@ Hybrid, Hans is considering leave X-Men Dark Phoenix with those massive reshooots?


Hybrid Soldier2018-08-23 00:15:59
Have no clue about JXL's Justice League... As I said, I doubt he wasn't far in the writing process, but I also doubt anything got recorded.

As for X-Men, no, he's definitely NOT quitting it, no matter what's going on with the production.


Mephariel2018-08-23 00:39:56
@Mike

I hope so. But what is working against him coming back is that Zimmer already put his stamp on the series with At World's End. The POTC scores are already some of the most popular in modern times. There is not much motivation for him to come back. If he does, it will only be for the fans.


Nick2018-08-23 01:32:35
So much for retiring from the superhero genre...again. Lol

Sounds like Hans is going to be incredibly busy for the next year or so. Is he feeling at all creatively fatigued from all this?



ThePhantasm2018-08-23 04:04:08
@Hybrid will we ever hear Lorne Balfe do a superhero score? I'm dying to see what he'll do with that

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-23 00:08:21
@Hybrid, did Tom recorded some music for Justice League? I mean for this controversy about Snyder Cut. Some comments say the runtime with Zack is over 3 hours and there are comments about The Snyder cut is true and have Tom's music.

... reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-22 22:59:28
This is such great news! I can’t for this! 2019 will be really interesting!

Ro reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-22 22:51:53
Well, how's that for a surprise. One could imagine things shifting from HZ to RGW for a sequel, but not the other way around.

Dimitris Krommidas reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-22 21:35:14
Yes!

Joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-22 20:53:17
;)

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-22 20:27:46
Wow!

As much as I loved RGW’s score for WW, I’m so excited to see Hans return to the character. So much for retiring from superheroes lol...

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