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Because they didn't work direcly in this score, but their material from the previous one was reused.Does anyone know why some of the composer names are in brackets? Thanks!thanks4:05 of "STEALTH" some of the best soulful action music I've heard from a Zimmer score. I wonder who wrote that particular section. This the type of stuff I would play trying to rush a pregnant woman to the hospitalIn case he's visiting this site, I wanna say 'Thank You' to Ashton Gleckman who does the 'Behind the Score' episodes on YouTube. I loved the 1-hour episode for the Transformers scores and I actually learned a lot. Very educational. I found the video by accident and now I plan on watching his other videos as well.<br><br>Job well done, my friend.
@Hybrid <br>You don't add anymore Trevor Morris things ?Probably for chronological purposes<br>even though the movie uses a shortened version of Romanian Wind at that timei saw the movie a couple of weeks ago again and the showdown in the school is very well shot and intense and trevors music is effective there. you can hear track 8 and 19 in that scene. a really good action scene.<br>===============================<br><br><br>I agree. <br><br>And I think at the end of the day the movie itself is not the type of movie that could win people over with its score. No matter how successful and popular it is and no matter how good the score is. I Am Number 4 was part of the YA craze that took over Hollywood a few years back (we all know how people feel about those movies), and even the most successful YA movies (like Twilight) are not exactly known for their scores.<br><br>People - even film critics who are supposed to talk about all aspects of the movie - were too busy talking about half-naked characters and Kristen Stewart's acting..... and completely ignoring the good work done by Alexandre Desplat.<br><br>It was pretty much the same with I Am Number Four...<br><br>It's not that Trevor created a "bad" score, it's simply a case of a nice, little score that went under the radar. No one bothered to talk about it..... Just like his score for Torque, which as far as I'm concerned is one of his best scores.I just find it odd how people gravitate to the triumphant or inspirational music first, rather than the more subtle, unique pieces.<br>===========================<br><br><br>I totally get what you're saying. I also get kinda frustrated when a "big" track overshadows an entire score. The best recent examples are IMO the Transformers scores. I don't blame folks for gravitating towards the epic sound and the power anthems, but A LOT of subtle, equally great tracks end up getting completely ignored. And just like you, they're usually my favorite tracks. <br><br>But why most people don't think like us?<br><br>The reason I think is because those "big tracks" are presented - most of the time - during the most memorable moments in those movies. They immediately get people's attention. They're stuck in their mind along with those iconic images. And I think by nature, people are more attracted to the big and "in your face". For most casual listeners the more subtle tracks work in the context of the movie and they absolutely do notice them while watching the actual film. But unlike you and I they don't feel the need to listen to them separately. They're too busy paying attention to the "big track". That goes even for some score fans.<br><br>While tracks like the Star War theme, the Indy theme, the Transformers theme, the Gladiator theme, the Godfather theme, the Armageddon theme, the Pirates theme, the Lord of the Rings theme are so big, melodic abd easily digestable that folks simply can't resist them. And when there are vocals involved as well (like Gladiator) it's even better, because people treat it as a full-blown song. An emotional song that they can listen to over and over again.<br><br>The subtle tracks simply can't win against that. Sadly....<br><br>By the way, speaking of The Island, My Name is Lincoln (as much as I like it) is not my favorite track of the score. The more subtle opening track (The Island Awaits You) and especially the Lima One Alpha theme are my personal favorite tracks. Of course, they're nowhere near My Name is Lincoln, in terms of popularity.<br>Why is Romanian Wind not sequenced after Case Re-Opened? Is not the former 7M48 and the latter 7M47?
Yeah that is true, canít argue there lol<br><br>And is it me or does ďCalypso Must Be ReleasedĒ sound like Black Hawk Down?To be fair there is a lot of King Arthur in At World's End too. Just the general feeling you get from the action tracks in both scores is virtually identical. Hell, one of the main themes from King Arthur even appears when Bootstrap Bill remembers that Will is his son.@MrTweedy<br>Thatís totally fine, everyone has their own favorite HZ scores, which is awesome!<br><br>Itís funny though, I feel like DMC is far more schizophrenic than AWE. Now donít get me wrong, I absolutely love DMC. Itís the score that got me into Hans Zimmer. But still, I feel like a major part of that score is note-for-note reprises of cues/themes from COTBP. Not to mention the temp tracking of King Arthur.<br><br>AWE always felt far more original to me, especially considering that the entire tone of the music shifts from the ďrockínírollĒ sound of the first two to a more traditional score (at least by Hans Zimmer standards lol)@MrTweedy<br><br>Just curious, what scores do you considered to be Zimmer's best?The Pinnacle of Hans' career?<br>Although I really like this score, I don't agree. But hey, I know it's just a matter of opinion, okay? ;)<br><br>Of course it shows Hans strengths in almost every area (action, drama, romance, comedy...) but for me it's too much of a medley of previous works, without much personality.<br>It feels a bit like a palette with too many colors. From the action sequences borrowed from Drop Zone, to the Morricone inspirations for Jack's Sequences, to Gladiator's duduk that ended up there with no real reason, to a beautiful Love Theme that brings another new shape to the sonic identity... it's like the score sometimes goes schizophrenic.<br><br>Though each individual idea is really enjoyable to listen to, I think Hans has made scores that are much more cohesive and enjoyable as a whole!
i also think it is an underrated score. especially the action music has a couple of nice touches. i saw the movie a couple of weeks ago again and the showdown in the school is very well shot and intense and trevors music is effective there. you can hear track 8 and 19 in that scene. a really good action scene. the emotional music is nothing ground breaking, but a lovely listen.Y'know, it's funny. The big names that always get the most attention in film music are often not my favorite tracks of the scores they represent. Now We Are Free, Arrival to Earth, Like A Dog Chasing Cars, Star Wars Main Theme, Indiana Jones Main Theme, Infinite White, One Day, Circle of Life, The Fellowship. Though they are the most well known, they're usually nowhere near the peak of quality of their scores. <br><br><br>I noticed this the most in Hans Zimmer's concerts (not World of Hans Zimmer mind you). The parts he played from The Dark Knight Trilogy in particular usually had the least substance. Just the bombastic tracks. The only choice I agreed with was Time from Inception. There was no Am I Not Merciful, A Watchful Guardian, Sunrise Over Pride Rock, none of that. <br><br><br>Even with Star Wars, the main theme and the Force theme are solid pieces of music, but neither come close to the beauty of Princess Leia's theme, or the wondrous Yoda theme. <br><br><br>Same with Lord of the Rings. The Fellowship Reunited, Very Old Friends, Gollum, and The Breaking of the Fellowship are much more substantial pieces than The Fellowship Theme alone in my opinion. <br><br><br>Can't say anything about My Name is Lincoln because I haven't finished The Island score yet, but yeah. I just find it odd how people gravitate to the triumphant or inspirational music first, rather than the more subtle, unique pieces.Thanks guys, will check out these cues.Hmm, aside from "The Guardian Suite' I don't think I've heard any other tracks from this score. And I have a feeling I'm not the only one....lol.<br><br>Speaking of.........I would most definitely put "The Guardian Suite' right up there next to "Now We Are Free" and "My Name is Lincoln". It's *that* good and powerful. Shame that the movie is not as popular as The Island and Gladiator. If it was, that suite would've been one of the most popular film score tracks with millions of views on YouTube. It certainly deserves it.Very underrated score. As already pointed out by a couple of reviewers, it's a nice, little throwback to MV/RC's Golden Years and Trevor's own scores from 1997 to 2002. Give it a listen if you can. It's not long and it's worth it.
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  2017, March 02  updated by Hybrid Soldier
PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN - DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES (TRAILER) - MUSIC BY GEOFF ZANELLI






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mpolonest123 reply Replies: 5 || 2017-03-07 01:52:52
I am so INSANELY excited for this, having grown up on the Pirate scores. If anyone can write music on the level of Hans, it's Geoff. Hopefully there is a cue on the level of the William Tell Finale from Lone Ranger.

In regards to returning themes, I hope the "Marry Me" theme returns in some form (considering that Orlando Bloom is returning)


David2017-03-07 02:16:01
But Keira Knightley'l isn't so it doesn't make sense to :(


arrangement2017-03-07 02:31:03
People under-estimate just how good Hans is at coming up with catchy ideas. Arrangement is a very different skill.

Hopefully GZ delivers the goods!


Agent2017-03-07 03:48:10
I agree. Hans Zimmer has written, perhaps, the best themes in film and game music history.


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-07 15:58:41
Film history - eh, it's debatable, I guess. I still think Williams has Zimmer beat for greatest themes, but I won't argue that Zimmer has done very, very well for himself there.

Game music history - yeah, no way.


rockhound2017-03-18 08:21:25
i would say, williams wrote some of the most iconic themes in film history, but not the greatest. i think there are alot of composers, who have written great themes. zimmers Backdraft theme for example is the best firefighter theme in film history and its not worse than any other williams theme. or zimmers The Burning Bush theme from The Prince Of Egypt. and there are countless other examples also for others composers.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 12 || 2017-03-02 19:10:34
Can't wait ! It's getting closer !!


Dimitris Krommidas2017-03-03 02:43:22
Yes!


Waymann2017-03-03 08:36:30
I'm having faith in Geoff Zanelli. But hopefully the score is gonna be a good release. Not those shit albums with remixes and with just 30% of actual music from the movie, leaving all the best parts out.


Agent2017-03-03 14:09:35
I hope for a good album release.


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-03 14:27:20
Well, the album for On Stranger Tides was only that way in an attempt to hide how much of that score was rehash...so as long as this score is *not* just rehash (while still keeping enough references to the old Pirates music we all love), we can assume that the album release will be OK as well.


Waymann2017-03-03 16:13:02
Rehash or not, I want the score as it sounds in the movie... It says "Original Motion Picture Soundtrack" on the cover for some reason right ?


Oscarailbo2017-03-03 17:07:34
Anyone knows if that ghosting lullaby at the beginning is from Zanelli ?


Joshua2017-03-04 00:47:20
The Lullaby is Drunken Whaler from the video game Dishonored. They just changed Whaler to Pirate.
h t t p s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urV8MIcLDFk


Brent2017-03-04 09:24:36
I seriously couldn't be more excited about this. I hope to God Geoff delivers the goods. And I believe he will. :)


isildur2017-03-06 06:26:48
I've very high expectations on this. Hopefully Geoff knocks it out of the park.


Waymann2017-03-06 08:06:44
That lullaby sounded more like "What Shall We Do With The Drunken Sailor?"


Anonymous2017-03-06 09:44:48
That's because is IS. It's just an arrangement of Drunken Sailor.


Scorefan2017-03-06 17:29:59
Well, if Hybrid is excited for Geoff's score, i think is gonna be great, maybe more than Badelt/Zimmer previous score.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-06 17:02:27
Whatever Geoff ends up doing for this, I hope it's better than the flat, generic trailer music version of He's a Pirate we are hearing here...

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