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I feel like this is simultaneously the most enjoyable and least interesting Zimmer score of the last several years. It's nice to listen to, but it's basically the 1994 score rerecorded and tweaked in just a few places. Those tweaks do produce some highlights especially in the stampede and final battle sequences, but it's hard to think of this as a major effort, really. Yeah, it's good, but we've known that The Lion King is good for 25 years.I seriously don't understand why they didn't do two separate releases like most musicals do (La La Land comes to mind - perfect release). <br><br>A soundtrack album and a score album. No missing tracks, no fuss. And optional 2-CD set containing both.<br><br>Instead, they went with a soundtrack album with some of the score and another song album for whatever reason that is lol.The second half of the new "Elephant Graveyard" is basically note for note "I Was Just Trying to Be Brave" from the 1994 version as well, just with a few changes in orchestrationThis is only HGW's score, a good chunk of it was rejected.Wonder if it will take 20 years for an official complete score XD Not to mention any unofficial leaks (it took a long time to even get that for the original film). TBH, I'd prefer a proper release of any score any day of the week.<br><br>To answer the question above me: Mostly it's new material using the same themes from 1994, though if my interpretation the OST is correct, the hyenas and Timon and Pumbaa get new themes. The only true 'copies' of music from 1994 are Circle of Life and Remember, but even then, they are at least partially-new recordings.
Do we know who wrote what?Is it all material from 1994 or is it new 2019 score?I confirm I'm back from it, there's quite a bit of unreleased score.Well, now we have somebody who's seen it (and yes, it's out in some countries today), we know for certain.<br><br>I wouldn't expect anything official any time soon unless Zimmer wants to release a second CD.I absolutely love Kai’s theme in this score, there are so many cool variations that weren’t on the initial album. Hans and Co. really stepped up their game here. I don’t feel the temp as heavily here as KFP2 (which is still an amazing sequel score).
Saw the film today, there is a LOT of music missing.As stupid as this film is, you can tell Tom probably had fun working on it. The music is so over the top, it just goes nuts all the way through.This is one of those scores that I have really warmed up to since it’s release. The emotional stuff for Alita works really well in context and her “Hero Theme” gets some great development (the way it culminates in “Epilogue” is incredible). Also really love the “Motorball” stuff. <br><br>After seeing the film I think the only substantial music not on the album is “Motorball Plan” and “Alita’s Revenge Pt. 1”. The end credits piece I’m guessing is edited from the Full Motorball Suite.Hybrid, did Lorne actually do a lot of writing on this one or is he just being credited for the theme?We've had this argument before, almost any score can fit in a film. But what separates the mediocre composers from the best is the ability to make great music that works on its own, outside of the film. <br><br>Hans has had a lot of work lately that hasn't been doing that, and it's the reason people want him to work with orchestra again and produce is 2000s, late 90s type of style. Because those scores, for whatever problems they had, they felt distinct, memorable (for the most part), and easily could have been enjoyed away from the film.<br><br>Good scores have themes and ideas that both enhance the film, and enhance the listener's experience. Music like Dunkirk, Inferno, or Widows just feel like shallow and empty committee scores that the studio/directors didn't want too much thought put into. "Ah just write one main theme, and fill in the rest with electronics, Hans, it'll be fine!"
Hahahahaha well I’m glad he got the credit then :DI absolutely disagree with you saying Widows is a terrible score. It may not be great on album, but the music fits very well with the film.Actually, I think he only gets credits cause he is the guy... whistling ! :PElectric violinJust out of curiosity... what instrument is playing when Liv and Ben are running towards each other at the end? (Long Distance Goodbye/Landing? I love that instrument!
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  2018, June 04  updated by Hybrid Soldier
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Iamtommie reply Replies: 0 || 2018-10-03 00:09:12
Soundtrack album will be released on 21st of November. There will be score & songs on the album

Kalman reply Replies: 14 || 2018-09-12 13:06:47
The reviews mention the score positively. Will there be a (CD) release?


Hybrid Soldier2018-09-12 13:11:19
Probably not, there's something 20 min tops of score in the whole film...


...2018-09-12 13:20:16
Damnit. Let's hope for a FYC like 12 Years a Slave


Mike2018-09-13 06:57:07
I can't say I get why Steve McQueen keeps getting Hans and has him write these 20 minute scores... I mean, I'm sure they're friends and they like working together. But if you're gonna get a composer like Zimmer, you should take advantage of his talent and have him write a score that makes a significant impact on the movie!


theGordo2018-09-13 08:01:32
@Mike It's all about music serving the film.


Anonymous2018-09-13 08:15:28
Or maybe it is just a favor-for-a-friend sort of marketing.


Hybrid Soldier2018-09-13 12:48:10
Why the hell would they add more music for the sake of "having more music" ?


If it needs 20 min, it's 20 min... I didn't hear that sort of comments when Hans wrote 35 min of Rain Man for a 2h+ movie, or 35 min of True Romance... Or the longest score ever, 6 minutes for The Boat That Rocked !!


Edmund Meinerts2018-09-13 13:05:39
To be fair, Hybrid, Hans was in a very different place in his career in 1988/1993 vs. now. :p

I think the question is not so much "why is there so little music in the movie" but rather "if you're going to have so little music in your movie, why bother splashing out the big bucks to get a massive name like Hans Zimmer when there are literally hundreds of other composers in Hollywood who would do as good a job for a tenth the budget?" ...other than marketing, that is. Maybe they figured they were going to get a lawsuit if they got some other composer to rip off Time throughout 12YAS and so dodged that bullet by asking Hans to do it himself?


...2018-09-13 15:33:41
Why not get Zimmer to do 20 minutes of music if you really like his music. It's a strange way to approach scoring. Anyone can write a 2 hour score as well so why is that any different.


mpolonest123 2018-09-13 16:10:59
And is Zimmer’s pay always consistent? For big budget movies sure, the studios will obviously dump out the cash on him. But I can’t imagine him costing as much for something like Freeheld or this, especially when there is only 30 minutes or so of music in the film. I also get the feeling these are the type of films he likes to work on.

And wasn’t it Big Z who worked on Casi Divas for $1? I’m sure each situation is different.


Mephariel2018-09-13 17:35:21
I don't get the idea that you can't get Zimmer if you only want 20 minutes of music. If you like someone's style and you two collaborated together well, why not? The questions is, why would you get someone else unless you think the music is not going to work. Money is obviously not an issue since the studio approved it.


Ds2018-09-13 19:54:29
I agree that some films don't need more than 20 minutes. But to be honest, aside from auteuristic filmmaking with a lot of embarassing silences, most films with short scores just happen to use a lot of songs. No idea if it's the case of Widows, though. But if it's indeed the case, I'd agree that it's a pity to use pre-existing songs while you can have Zimmer himself creating awesome new music.


Mike2018-09-13 22:36:12
Eh, yeah, there can be a 20 minute score. I mean, I don't REALLY care. I just look forward to more of Hans' music when he's writing it, and it's a bit disappointing with scores like this one where we won't get much new music. Who knows! Maybe it'll be 20 minutes of really awesome music. Idk. Either way, having 20 minutes almost guarantees there won't be any kind of musical arc to this score.

And yeah, I get all the "it needs to serve the film" stuff. I pretty much agree with Edmund and Ds, though.


theGordo2018-09-15 14:16:26
Everything is as the director wants it... if its "awkward" silence, or old songs, or the new score... most of the times the director doesn't try to satisfy film score fans as his priority.


Kalman2018-10-02 17:33:28
There's a CD (pre-order) at amazon by Milan! :


https://www.amazon.com/Widows-OST-Various/dp/B07HQ7G91C/ref= sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1538494375&sr=1-3&keywords=widows +soundtrack

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