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As always with unused pieces of music. There are always be more interesting. Like with Dark Phoenix.I think what Lorne wrote for the last 30 min of the movie is way better than what ended in the movie... Lorne tried to elevate what was going on on screen, but it was probably too "bold" for the taste of production... They wanted to keep as "kow key" as possible but to me it made the ending of the film fall super flat...
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<br>In the end there isn't that much Lorne in the film (most of the "Moon" reel is Lorne though, that big 4 notes motif appearing during the moon landing and then takeoff). Ironically most of the droning you're all complaining about is not that much Lorne... lol
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<br>I really hope Lorne will put out as much music as possible, even all the unused parts, which are the more interesting ones !Taking in the movie now after having seen it. The cinematography is brilliant, and there are some interesting concepts that really will have you thinking long after walking out of the theater. Still, I couldnít help but feel like the film dragged throughout. Coupled with the voiceover the movie has a very ĎTerence Malick-yí, ďThin Red LineĒ feel throughout.<br><br>Iím definitely not familiar with Max Richter so I canít comment on what he might have written, but Balfeís broad-chord style is pretty recognizable throughout. There are also some interesting electronic pieces used throughout, possibly might be Balfe but hard to say as of now. The rest of the music is pretty contemplative, ranging from slow/emotional string pieces to more ambient droning.Well, I heard only Balfe's "Prayer" and Richter's "To the stars"... All I can say is we need to wait for the full release, hear both composers and only then talk about who better coped with this. (and watch the movie of course)<br>I don't think Balfe is a bad composer. He does pretty good as an additional composer but not as a leading (mostly). The only soundtrack that I consider the best to date in his solo career is "M:I-Fallout" and "Assassin's Creed III". (imo)<br>Who knows what will be this time. But for now I like Richter's track more.I'm just waiting for Gemini Man, that (i hope) would be fun
I love that cue.So I created a page for it, move away from Ghost In The Shell !! :PI wonder if this track is the one causing consternation: Nils Frahm: 'Says' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIwwjy4slI8<br><br>It sounds a bit like what Richter and Balfe could produce, but it is much more artistic than Balfe and much more synth-based than Richter. Frahm is credited for additional music.Not writing negative comments about Balfe for the purpose of writing negative comments - ie. trolling - but for the fact that Balfe does not seem to take film composition seriously. Goldsmith had a similar pace in the 1990s that equates to contemporary Balfe, but he managed to produce fantastic scores like Air Force One in a few weeks (yes, with some help from McNeeely). Balfe simply does not seem to have those skills so he resorts to cliches and drony nonsense. I await to be proven wrong. That Balfe track is not half-bad so I do maintain a general sense of expectation for this.Not any more lame than the Balfe cue
Lorne says it will be released and insists itís not a GITS situation.That's been standard in certain cases, though considerably less nowadays with how complicated these situations have become.<br><br>Having heard both tracks posted, both give me little on their own. I'm sure they work better in the context of the film, and we might see better tracks unveiled eventually.He deserve better.Hans and Lorne like twins. Lorne has a very good personality. I still don't understand why some people are still writing bad comments to Lorne?Probably... lolSo is this how itís gonna be? Official release for Richter and leaks by Balfe :(
Lorne posted a track from Ad Astra on his YouTube channelThank you. And i suppose "Need You Busting My Balls - End Credits" title would correspond to ASCAP "Need You Busting My Balls" + "RUSH END CREDITS", while "Just Married" to "RUSH MAIN ON END"?Thatís literally the best part of the score though. But itís typical Richter (Miss Sloane, Black Mirror: Nosedive).Hunt Drunken Weirdness is barely a cue actually, it's just a patch up of sound designs by Mel...<br><br>Italian Party is a name I made up for a cue that's not used in the movie ! :)In ASCAP there is a cue "HUNT DRUNKEN WEIRDNESS" - is this by a chance an alias to "Italian Party", which is absent in ASCAP. Though there are different credits Zimmer/Wesson vs Zimmer/Klebe.
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  2018, June 04  updated by Hybrid Soldier
WIDOWS (TRAILER) - MUSIC BY HANS ZIMMER






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Iamtommie reply Replies: 0 || 2018-10-03 00:09:12
Soundtrack album will be released on 21st of November. There will be score & songs on the album

Kalman reply Replies: 14 || 2018-09-12 13:06:47
The reviews mention the score positively. Will there be a (CD) release?


Hybrid Soldier2018-09-12 13:11:19
Probably not, there's something 20 min tops of score in the whole film...


...2018-09-12 13:20:16
Damnit. Let's hope for a FYC like 12 Years a Slave


Mike2018-09-13 06:57:07
I can't say I get why Steve McQueen keeps getting Hans and has him write these 20 minute scores... I mean, I'm sure they're friends and they like working together. But if you're gonna get a composer like Zimmer, you should take advantage of his talent and have him write a score that makes a significant impact on the movie!


theGordo2018-09-13 08:01:32
@Mike It's all about music serving the film.


Anonymous2018-09-13 08:15:28
Or maybe it is just a favor-for-a-friend sort of marketing.


Hybrid Soldier2018-09-13 12:48:10
Why the hell would they add more music for the sake of "having more music" ?


If it needs 20 min, it's 20 min... I didn't hear that sort of comments when Hans wrote 35 min of Rain Man for a 2h+ movie, or 35 min of True Romance... Or the longest score ever, 6 minutes for The Boat That Rocked !!


Edmund Meinerts2018-09-13 13:05:39
To be fair, Hybrid, Hans was in a very different place in his career in 1988/1993 vs. now. :p

I think the question is not so much "why is there so little music in the movie" but rather "if you're going to have so little music in your movie, why bother splashing out the big bucks to get a massive name like Hans Zimmer when there are literally hundreds of other composers in Hollywood who would do as good a job for a tenth the budget?" ...other than marketing, that is. Maybe they figured they were going to get a lawsuit if they got some other composer to rip off Time throughout 12YAS and so dodged that bullet by asking Hans to do it himself?


...2018-09-13 15:33:41
Why not get Zimmer to do 20 minutes of music if you really like his music. It's a strange way to approach scoring. Anyone can write a 2 hour score as well so why is that any different.


mpolonest123 2018-09-13 16:10:59
And is Zimmerís pay always consistent? For big budget movies sure, the studios will obviously dump out the cash on him. But I canít imagine him costing as much for something like Freeheld or this, especially when there is only 30 minutes or so of music in the film. I also get the feeling these are the type of films he likes to work on.

And wasnít it Big Z who worked on Casi Divas for $1? Iím sure each situation is different.


Mephariel2018-09-13 17:35:21
I don't get the idea that you can't get Zimmer if you only want 20 minutes of music. If you like someone's style and you two collaborated together well, why not? The questions is, why would you get someone else unless you think the music is not going to work. Money is obviously not an issue since the studio approved it.


Ds2018-09-13 19:54:29
I agree that some films don't need more than 20 minutes. But to be honest, aside from auteuristic filmmaking with a lot of embarassing silences, most films with short scores just happen to use a lot of songs. No idea if it's the case of Widows, though. But if it's indeed the case, I'd agree that it's a pity to use pre-existing songs while you can have Zimmer himself creating awesome new music.


Mike2018-09-13 22:36:12
Eh, yeah, there can be a 20 minute score. I mean, I don't REALLY care. I just look forward to more of Hans' music when he's writing it, and it's a bit disappointing with scores like this one where we won't get much new music. Who knows! Maybe it'll be 20 minutes of really awesome music. Idk. Either way, having 20 minutes almost guarantees there won't be any kind of musical arc to this score.

And yeah, I get all the "it needs to serve the film" stuff. I pretty much agree with Edmund and Ds, though.


theGordo2018-09-15 14:16:26
Everything is as the director wants it... if its "awkward" silence, or old songs, or the new score... most of the times the director doesn't try to satisfy film score fans as his priority.


Kalman2018-10-02 17:33:28
There's a CD (pre-order) at amazon by Milan! :


https://www.amazon.com/Widows-OST-Various/dp/B07HQ7G91C/ref= sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1538494375&sr=1-3&keywords=widows +soundtrack

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