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But the scores comes out in 1th NovemberThe movie is out this Wednesday in some territories."In the third one he writes the "father and son" theme, it's okay but it's harmonically basic and the melody is UNMEMORABLE"<br><br><br>Aaaaaaaaaaaaand your whole analysis falls flat right there ! :PThanks Edmund.<br><br>@PaulH I am not meaning to say that Balfe cannot compose good music. There are compositions that I like: the Picasso theme is creative and well-written. Just that I find his arrangements of others more compelling usually than his own material.<br><br>An example that is good of this is kung fu panda. His arrangements of themes are really fun and energetic. In the third one he writes the "father and son" theme, it's okay but it's harmonically basic and the melody is unmemorable. Contrast to Hans: the Po theme and Spirit theme are precise, fun, harmonically clever, and memorable. But his score cues sometimes feel lacking: his transitions are clunky, the bridge material is uncreative and basic. <br><br>It must be so much fun to work on those projects together. Coming up with idea and hearing what someone can turn it into, or getting to play with someone's idea without the pressure of starting from scratch.And also, be prepared for more Studio Time for the score
Tom said in his Twitter: 'Details very soon'<br><br>Altough, is only a week awayThe Nils Frahm track was released years agoNo one is mentioning "Says" from Nils Frahm. What a masterpiece of music. Love how it develops and getting so emotional even with that futuristic sound-effect. One of the highlights of this score, with those tracks Cerbei mentioned.Balfe is a great arranger but an even better composer.Beyond Two Souls is still one of the best game soundtracks.<br><br>I must have watched another movie in regards to Balfe filling in the gaps - that makes no sense?The soundtrack released seems not to relate to what was actually used in the film.Balfe “gap” music is featured much more and works brilliantly<br>
Last night I was talking to Lorne, and he told me that in principle there is intention to release the full score.I'd be very interested to hear the supposed Balfe complete score to picture where he apparently sought to elevate it, as someone here put it. The Richter is pitch-perfect and works massively well to picture and, not dissing Balfe at all, his stuff is literally 'additional music' to fill the gaps.Aplusle, that's really well put actually.Don't feel bad. You've just summed up why Hans and Lorne make a good team. Lorne is by all accounts a fantastic arranger and can bring out the best in others' ideas but I sometimes find his own compositions are a bit basic or leave me cold. Hans on the other hand always nails the theme and the concept but his scoring to picture to me feels clunky and a bit amateurish, especially when the music is dense. <br><br>Both super talented in their own ways. :-)Is there anyway o get sheet music for Into the pie machine for orchestra?
Just saw Maleficent 2. There is a lot more Newton Howard in the movoe than there is on album.<br>I actually can't really understand why they didn't include the reprise of The Christening (the dinner scene) & the finale in the movie.<br><br>Zanelli's score is wonderful and I love it very much. But would have loved this on albumI can't imagine how someone likes Balfe's part over Richters. As you said Thomas, Richters work sounds more like suites, and Balfes work is written more to picture. BUT, it sounds to me also like a typical RCP-work with Hans. While Hans gives the direction with his suites and melodies, Balfe and co are adapting those suites to the specific scenes and writing some "new" stuff to fill any gap if there is any need of it, so they become additional composers in the credits.<br><br>And here, we have the same. Richter shows the direction and some cues are real intense and beautiful. Balfes parts sounding like a gap-filler. I don't want to talk bad about Balfe, he's a composing machine, but still i can't find anything remarkable on those parts and so i can't understand how Richters work hasn't been used but instead the more colorless cues from Balfes part :/<br><br>Again, don't feel insulted guys, it's just my sensationBalfe’s part is the best I think.<br>It also seems written to picture instead of just long suites.<br>My understanding is the Balfe wrote half of the score but the album doesn’t seem to represent that for some reason.I really liked Richter’s score over balfesI listened Max Richter for years. He is the kind of select or minority composer who does his solo works and soundtrack for movies not so famous. <br>His solo works are really really good with quintet and piano and voice. "on the nature of daylight" is definitely the best. <br>His sountrack is not good as his solo, to be honest. I think "the Leftovers" (2014-2017, HBO series), "Miss Slaone" (2016) and "Mary Queen of Scots" (2019) are cool.<br>If you need some peaceful music for meditation or good sleep, listen to his work.
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  2018, June 04  updated by Hybrid Soldier
WIDOWS (TRAILER) - MUSIC BY HANS ZIMMER






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Iamtommie reply Replies: 0 || 2018-10-03 00:09:12
Soundtrack album will be released on 21st of November. There will be score & songs on the album

Kalman reply Replies: 14 || 2018-09-12 13:06:47
The reviews mention the score positively. Will there be a (CD) release?


Hybrid Soldier2018-09-12 13:11:19
Probably not, there's something 20 min tops of score in the whole film...


...2018-09-12 13:20:16
Damnit. Let's hope for a FYC like 12 Years a Slave


Mike2018-09-13 06:57:07
I can't say I get why Steve McQueen keeps getting Hans and has him write these 20 minute scores... I mean, I'm sure they're friends and they like working together. But if you're gonna get a composer like Zimmer, you should take advantage of his talent and have him write a score that makes a significant impact on the movie!


theGordo2018-09-13 08:01:32
@Mike It's all about music serving the film.


Anonymous2018-09-13 08:15:28
Or maybe it is just a favor-for-a-friend sort of marketing.


Hybrid Soldier2018-09-13 12:48:10
Why the hell would they add more music for the sake of "having more music" ?


If it needs 20 min, it's 20 min... I didn't hear that sort of comments when Hans wrote 35 min of Rain Man for a 2h+ movie, or 35 min of True Romance... Or the longest score ever, 6 minutes for The Boat That Rocked !!


Edmund Meinerts2018-09-13 13:05:39
To be fair, Hybrid, Hans was in a very different place in his career in 1988/1993 vs. now. :p

I think the question is not so much "why is there so little music in the movie" but rather "if you're going to have so little music in your movie, why bother splashing out the big bucks to get a massive name like Hans Zimmer when there are literally hundreds of other composers in Hollywood who would do as good a job for a tenth the budget?" ...other than marketing, that is. Maybe they figured they were going to get a lawsuit if they got some other composer to rip off Time throughout 12YAS and so dodged that bullet by asking Hans to do it himself?


...2018-09-13 15:33:41
Why not get Zimmer to do 20 minutes of music if you really like his music. It's a strange way to approach scoring. Anyone can write a 2 hour score as well so why is that any different.


mpolonest123 2018-09-13 16:10:59
And is Zimmer’s pay always consistent? For big budget movies sure, the studios will obviously dump out the cash on him. But I can’t imagine him costing as much for something like Freeheld or this, especially when there is only 30 minutes or so of music in the film. I also get the feeling these are the type of films he likes to work on.

And wasn’t it Big Z who worked on Casi Divas for $1? I’m sure each situation is different.


Mephariel2018-09-13 17:35:21
I don't get the idea that you can't get Zimmer if you only want 20 minutes of music. If you like someone's style and you two collaborated together well, why not? The questions is, why would you get someone else unless you think the music is not going to work. Money is obviously not an issue since the studio approved it.


Ds2018-09-13 19:54:29
I agree that some films don't need more than 20 minutes. But to be honest, aside from auteuristic filmmaking with a lot of embarassing silences, most films with short scores just happen to use a lot of songs. No idea if it's the case of Widows, though. But if it's indeed the case, I'd agree that it's a pity to use pre-existing songs while you can have Zimmer himself creating awesome new music.


Mike2018-09-13 22:36:12
Eh, yeah, there can be a 20 minute score. I mean, I don't REALLY care. I just look forward to more of Hans' music when he's writing it, and it's a bit disappointing with scores like this one where we won't get much new music. Who knows! Maybe it'll be 20 minutes of really awesome music. Idk. Either way, having 20 minutes almost guarantees there won't be any kind of musical arc to this score.

And yeah, I get all the "it needs to serve the film" stuff. I pretty much agree with Edmund and Ds, though.


theGordo2018-09-15 14:16:26
Everything is as the director wants it... if its "awkward" silence, or old songs, or the new score... most of the times the director doesn't try to satisfy film score fans as his priority.


Kalman2018-10-02 17:33:28
There's a CD (pre-order) at amazon by Milan! :


https://www.amazon.com/Widows-OST-Various/dp/B07HQ7G91C/ref= sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1538494375&sr=1-3&keywords=widows +soundtrack

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