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Its Imagine the Fire insertThe Japanese version can be ordered here: http: //www.cdjapan.co.jp/ product/WPCR-18185<br><br>The "Swan Song" is also included on the CD. So it has 3 additional tracks.Theres quite a bit of good unreleased stuff from this score. Stuff like the cue that plays during Alita's first game of motorball with the other kids, the bar fight music, the unused string rendition of Alita's theme and the end titles arrangement of Motorball/Swan Song.Does anyone have the "Motorball" cue from end credits? It sounds like the beginning of the "Motorball" track but it's different than on the OST. It plays directly after the Swan Song track...<br><br>Why is it left off the CD?Huh... Do people at RCP ask H-Z.com to use the official, less accurate credits in some cases? I seem to recall some credit fiasco on POTC4.
So what happened to the credits here? It used to be a mixture of solo Atli cues with Atli/Dave Fleming, and now all three guys are credited for every track even though Tillman is only listed as a musician? Is this like with Armageddon, where the "official" credits aren't as accurate as the older ones were? :pMost of the album is comprised of suites, with one consistent tempo per track. <br><br>The material that was scored to picture was scored using the risset rhythm technique, which gave a lot of those tracks their "infinitely getting faster" feeling in the film, so the tempo is always climbing in the film versions. The suites have a stable tempo (except for a couple normal tempo changes, which are different)Not really any... "Nothing Out There" contains the sad piano theme from Begins and Dark Knight, but otherwise the themes that get reprised are pretty much Hans stuff. <br><br>Speaking of credits, any chance the complete score page could be updated with what's out there and official?Could somebody tell me in what cues JNH's themes appear on album?Yeah, that cue was either a last minute rewrite or one of the music editors did it.... As for where you can find it...Google is your friend. But it's not going to be available anywhere officially.
I think it will be in between NOT ORDINARY CITIZEN / THE SLOW KNIFE and IMAGINE THE FIRE, Does anybody know where can I find it?<br>I noticed that this score doesn't has the soundtrack of the part where Blake is taking the people to the bridge and he is discusing with the other police officer before he blows the bridgeThat's right, I forgot about that... And I totally agree about the score vs. the album. I had no use for this score on album at first, but now that I've watched the movie a few times, I can really hear the logic behind the score and I "get it." <br><br>I still don't get the music as heard on album, though. Are the longer pieces some early suites Hans wrote? Or did he specifically make these arrangements for the album? Do you know the answer to that one, Hybrid?I wanna say I heard the full Cat Suite somewhere... I can't remember if it was legit, but it was 15:39 and it was indeed quite repetitive. It was basically the Selina Kyle Suite from the Z+ app, along with demos of several of the Catwoman-related cues in the final score. If you've listened through the score, you've basically heard the unreleased stuff.@Mike<br>Zimmer has said in interviews that he “mapped out” the film with one long piece of music to establish the changing tempo of the story, and apparently the script was written to capture the rhythmic feel of the film. So from the very beginning the story was always split up between the three.<br><br>I think a big part of the initial disappointment with the score was the album presentation, which gives off the impression that the music is just some sound design that Zimmer threw together (this is how I personally felt when I first gave it a listen). In actuality it’s a technically impressive score, I really can’t think of any other film score that is so synchronized with a film’s tempo and flows as one long piece of music. Apparently it was a nightmare for Hans, especially when the smallest edits to the film would ruin the flow.<br><br>Doing the 59-minute album was a pretty big disservice to the whole purpose of the music. If you remove one piece the whole thing falls apart, which is part of the reason the album feels so disjointed.
Anyone here listened "The Predator" FYC score? <br>Any chance to compare tracklist and running time with official release?These versions suites haven't been officially released, but maybe you can find them somewhere around the Internet unofficially.<br><br>As for the Cat Suite, the most important parts of it can be found in "Selina Kyle" (it's a shortened version of it actually) and "Mind if I cut in?" from the OST. I remember that Hybrid once said that the 15mins Cat Suite was too repetitive, that's why a 5min only version was released, so maybe you are just fine with those two.<br>Where can I listen to the Cat Suite? Or is it literally: Selina Kyle Theme? <br>The Mole P1 (0-1:57)<br>Regimental Brothers P1 (0-1:19)<br>The Mole P2 (1:57-3:44)<br>Regimental Brothers P3 (2:44 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier<br>Supermarine P1 (0-2:47)<br>The Mole P3 (3:45 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back (again) <br>Supermarine P2 (*5:33)<br>Impulse<br>The Tide<br>Home <br>The Oil <br>Variation 15<br>End Credits <br><br>As everyone said already, the album is made up of suites that combine several cues and several "sounds" used in various places. For example, the is a sound in The Mole (At 2:05) that sounds like a fuse being ignited. This sound is actually right after The Tide in the film.<br>The only tracks that are almost identical to the film are: The Tide, Variation 15 and End Credits, the rest is different. <br><br>So if you were to order the tracks as first heard in the film it would be: <br>The Mole <br>Regimental Brothers <br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier <br>Supermarine <br>Impluse <br>The Tide <br>Home <br>The Oil<br>Variation 15<br>End credits<br><br>As much as I enjoyed listening to this release, I wish they didn't butcher the score the way they did. I like the suites but there are so many great cues in this film that weren't released. If only they released an isolated score track on Blu-ray. Listening to film extracts is just not enough.I noticed that as well — the ticking goes all through the movie, except for the boat scenes, and only stops when they get on the train. <br><br>I wonder...could the film have originally been shot so that the beach, sea, and air sequences were there own arcs, and the longer album tracks were written for that? And then Nolan went in and turned the movie into the frenetic, constantly cutting-back-and-forth final product? <br><br>While the album is fine, I personally don't understand why we couldn't have just gotten the film cues. They might have had to stitch several together for each track, but it could have worked.
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Iamtommie reply Replies: 0 || 2018-10-03 00:09:12
Soundtrack album will be released on 21st of November. There will be score & songs on the album

Kalman reply Replies: 14 || 2018-09-12 13:06:47
The reviews mention the score positively. Will there be a (CD) release?


Hybrid Soldier2018-09-12 13:11:19
Probably not, there's something 20 min tops of score in the whole film...


...2018-09-12 13:20:16
Damnit. Let's hope for a FYC like 12 Years a Slave


Mike2018-09-13 06:57:07
I can't say I get why Steve McQueen keeps getting Hans and has him write these 20 minute scores... I mean, I'm sure they're friends and they like working together. But if you're gonna get a composer like Zimmer, you should take advantage of his talent and have him write a score that makes a significant impact on the movie!


theGordo2018-09-13 08:01:32
@Mike It's all about music serving the film.


Anonymous2018-09-13 08:15:28
Or maybe it is just a favor-for-a-friend sort of marketing.


Hybrid Soldier2018-09-13 12:48:10
Why the hell would they add more music for the sake of "having more music" ?


If it needs 20 min, it's 20 min... I didn't hear that sort of comments when Hans wrote 35 min of Rain Man for a 2h+ movie, or 35 min of True Romance... Or the longest score ever, 6 minutes for The Boat That Rocked !!


Edmund Meinerts2018-09-13 13:05:39
To be fair, Hybrid, Hans was in a very different place in his career in 1988/1993 vs. now. :p

I think the question is not so much "why is there so little music in the movie" but rather "if you're going to have so little music in your movie, why bother splashing out the big bucks to get a massive name like Hans Zimmer when there are literally hundreds of other composers in Hollywood who would do as good a job for a tenth the budget?" ...other than marketing, that is. Maybe they figured they were going to get a lawsuit if they got some other composer to rip off Time throughout 12YAS and so dodged that bullet by asking Hans to do it himself?


...2018-09-13 15:33:41
Why not get Zimmer to do 20 minutes of music if you really like his music. It's a strange way to approach scoring. Anyone can write a 2 hour score as well so why is that any different.


mpolonest123 2018-09-13 16:10:59
And is Zimmer’s pay always consistent? For big budget movies sure, the studios will obviously dump out the cash on him. But I can’t imagine him costing as much for something like Freeheld or this, especially when there is only 30 minutes or so of music in the film. I also get the feeling these are the type of films he likes to work on.

And wasn’t it Big Z who worked on Casi Divas for $1? I’m sure each situation is different.


Mephariel2018-09-13 17:35:21
I don't get the idea that you can't get Zimmer if you only want 20 minutes of music. If you like someone's style and you two collaborated together well, why not? The questions is, why would you get someone else unless you think the music is not going to work. Money is obviously not an issue since the studio approved it.


Ds2018-09-13 19:54:29
I agree that some films don't need more than 20 minutes. But to be honest, aside from auteuristic filmmaking with a lot of embarassing silences, most films with short scores just happen to use a lot of songs. No idea if it's the case of Widows, though. But if it's indeed the case, I'd agree that it's a pity to use pre-existing songs while you can have Zimmer himself creating awesome new music.


Mike2018-09-13 22:36:12
Eh, yeah, there can be a 20 minute score. I mean, I don't REALLY care. I just look forward to more of Hans' music when he's writing it, and it's a bit disappointing with scores like this one where we won't get much new music. Who knows! Maybe it'll be 20 minutes of really awesome music. Idk. Either way, having 20 minutes almost guarantees there won't be any kind of musical arc to this score.

And yeah, I get all the "it needs to serve the film" stuff. I pretty much agree with Edmund and Ds, though.


theGordo2018-09-15 14:16:26
Everything is as the director wants it... if its "awkward" silence, or old songs, or the new score... most of the times the director doesn't try to satisfy film score fans as his priority.


Kalman2018-10-02 17:33:28
There's a CD (pre-order) at amazon by Milan! :


https://www.amazon.com/Widows-OST-Various/dp/B07HQ7G91C/ref= sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1538494375&sr=1-3&keywords=widows +soundtrack

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